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After you do astral projection how do you get back to your body?
QUOTE (renji5471 @ Aug 22 2008, 10:26 PM) 
After you do astral projection how do you get back to your body?
Although I've never done that, you simply get back by commanding yourself to get back. Just think 'I want to go back to my physical body' and bam, your back in a flash. If that doesn't work, you half to iamgine the act of you returning
Thanks for the quick reply.Do you know if you able to see other people that are doing astral projection also?
QUOTE (renji5471 @ Aug 22 2008, 10:53 PM)
Thanks for the quick reply.Do you know if you able to see other people that are doing astral projection also?
Rarely does it happen, but yes, some people can see a glimpse of a silvery figure floating. It only lasts for about 1-3 seconds, though. Rarely do people glimpse at it for a more longer period of time.
Again thanks for the quick reply.When i tried to do astral projection the area around me stared shaking a little bit is that a sign that i started to do astral projection?
QUOTE (renji5471 @ Aug 23 2008, 04:03 AM)
Again thanks for the quick reply.When i tried to do astral projection the area around me stared shaking a little bit is that a sign that i started to do astral projection?
Most likely. Look for any feelings/sensations that are out of the ordinary. I generally get strong vibrations and a rushing sound in my ears, as though wind is blowing through them. I'll also see a blue light and hear voices. Do not let these sensations frighten you - they are simply signs that your consciousness has been altered to the point at which it is receptive to another dimension.
I recommend page 82 of this thread for reading
particularly what raven has to say about socrates who is now ziggy stardust
QUOTE (MindFire @ Sep 7 2008, 12:34 AM)
particularly what raven has to say about socrates who is now ziggy stardust
I remember him. He seemed to have a morbid obsession with 'exposing' me as a 'liar' and 'fraud.' Regardless of what he thinks, my method has helped countless people. Water under the bridge.
Hello people i am new i need a perfect step by step of how to astral project i tried it earlier i started to feel my body swing from left to right and a couple of ligths when i looked lookinh in the black of my eye lid is it something? is it the start of astral projection. Also i have a question when iwas 9 years old everythime i was dreaming it was about Me jumping down stairs and then when i landing i woke up in a jolt. what in the world was that?
QUOTE (SLaY3R @ Sep 7 2008, 03:02 PM)
Hello people i am new i need a perfect step by step of how to astral project i tried it earlier i started to feel my body swing from left to right and a couple of ligths when i looked lookinh in the black of my eye lid is it something? is it the start of astral projection. Also i have a question when iwas 9 years old everythime i was dreaming it was about Me jumping down stairs and then when i landing i woke up in a jolt. what in the world was that?
Welcome to UM,
I recommend you try an array of techniques rather than sticking with just one. Different techniques work for different people; some of us are great visualizers, or have regular lucid dreams etc. You should consider trying to project through a dream, for example, if you realize you are dreaming, simply affirm "I leave my body." Also try visualization techniques such as the rope method (lying in bed and imagining yourself climbing a rope which hangs from the ceiling.)
Don't always expect to project while you are doing the exercise. For me, it usually happens after I have done the visualization; the exercises usually encourage projections rather than induce them.
As for your experiences as a 9-year-old, sounds like unintentional projections. When we unconsciously project, our dreams often involve flying or falling.
Well unfortunately I don't have the time to read through 200+ pages to see what information has been posted already, but here is at least some suggestions from me (I'm lazy so I'll just copy and paste the first post from my own thread on increasing astral projection skills):
As a note to the above, I agree to Ziggy's last post where he says the projection may not necessarily happen while you are doing the exercises, they can often occur "spontaneously" after, such as in the night when you've fallen asleep and suddenly you'll find yourself wake up out of body. So in a way I'm contradicting myself with my statement in the quoted post where I say do not try it at night or when you are very tired, but in my experience the most lucid and vivid astral projections, and the most interesting in my opinion, is the ones where you are able to follow the whole progress from you start your technique until you've fully projected and being aware and conscious through all the states in between this process. But, as said, it can happen even after you've done it all and think you've failed =)
Best of luck!
-EA
QUOTE
To get to the basics first: Don't try to astral project at night or when you are very tired, as this most certainly will lead you to black out / fall asleep instead of having a successful projection. Are you doing it in the night? If so this is probably the reason. The best time of day to astral project is in the morning just when you've waked up, or in the middle of day or afternoon / evening. The night is usually the worst time to try as your body and mind is too tired then. Morning is usually the best of them all, as your mind and body is rested, and already in a close state to astral projection from just having slept, so if you just lay still and try to project then this can be successful.
Here is a couple methods you may want to try out:
1. -Wake up, Get up, and go back to bed:
This means, you should put your alarm clock to wake you a bit earlier than normal, lets say 6 hours of sleep and then make your alarm clock wake you up. Then, get up from bed, and do something for 30 min to 1 hour to get yourself awake - it is STRONGLY helpful if you spent this time with reading some books or other material about astral projection as this will affect your subcounscious mind to make it easier for you to astral project.
In any case, after 30min to 1 hour, go back to bed, and do any astral projection method and you may find that it is much easier to get into the state of mind needed and then project from there.
2.
The "Stay awake" method:
Here you simply go to bed when you are tired and have your eyes open. You may blink of course now and then so your eyes doesnt dry up. The point is to just lie in your bed with your eyes open just like if you are awake and just look around in the room and notice everything in the room, take care of looking at all details and making it imprinted into your mind, just lie there in bed with your eyes open until you pass out / fall asleep from being too tired. At this point you may find yourself in your astral body, or in the astral state ready to project, because your body is asleep but your mind/astral body should still be awake as you forced yourself to stay awake - it was your body falling asleep. To enhance this method you can repeat over and over some times like a mantra or self-suggestion in your mind "When my body falls asleep, I will be awake in my astral body and project" - this can increase the effect and program your mind to automatically become aware inside your astral body when you fall asleep.
3. Self suggestions:
This is basically like last part of the above mentioned method, but instead you do any astral projection method of your choice, and you simply say to yourself over and over "When my body falls asleep, I will be awake in my astral body and project" or something similar, for example "I will now enter my astral body and project out of my physical" etc. You get the Idea original.gif
4. Imagine yourself where you want to go:
In this method, you simply go to bed, and you think of the place you want to project- it can be as simple as your own bedroom. The point is to try visualize the place, lets use your bedroom in this example, as good as possible and feel yourself being there. Now, in this example since you are imagining that you are in your bedroom, you should focus your attention and awareness on a specific place in the bedroom away from your physical body. This can be for example the ceiling - imagine yourself floating right under your ceiling, try to really FEEL yourself being up there and how it would feel to float there right under the ceiling. At one point you may feel yourself starting to vibrate or float, then try to increase this feeling and make it stronger, until you separate and find yourself floating under the ceiling. This method is specially useful if you already are able to get into the astral projection state without trouble, when in this state just do as I described. It also helps using self suggestions here too like in the examples mentioned above.
You can of course also use any other "target" of your choice but its best to use a place you know very well, such as the place of family or friends, and visualize and try feel yourself there, as in the example above with the ceiling.
5. Lucid dreams:
If you are able to have lucid dreams (dreams where you know you are dreaming and you are very aware) you can project astrally from these dreams very easy- Just focus your attentions and "will" yourself out of body, just imagine yourself flying out of the dream and out of your physical body and you are free and out flying. If you dont know about lucid dreams or how to achieve them, do a search on google, its tons of info on it out there and for some people this method is more effective than any of the others.
6. Body awareness
In this methods, you try send your awareness out of your body and move it around in different ways etc.. For example, you lie in your bed, and imagine and feel yourself floating out to the right all the way to the wall, then bounce back into your body, through your body, and out on the left side and to the wall on left of you. Then send awareness back again through your body to the right wall etc, just continue doing this for a while, sending your awareness back and forth from right to left, trying to really feel yourself being at those places and feeling yourself floating through your body and out on the other side. After having done this for several minutes, move on to trying to imagine and feel yourself bouncing up and down instead, like sending your awareness up from your body and up to the ceiling, then back down through your body and down to the ground. Repeat this too for a while, and move on to another part: Back and Forth, this means try to feel yourself floating out of your feet and feel your awareness outside your body moving down to the wall by the end of your feet, then move back up through your body and out of your head to the wall at end of your head (if your head, or any other side of your body, is placed directly towards a wall, just imagine yoursel floating through that wall some meters)
Then try to imagine yourself on gentle ocean waves, floating up and down, rocking your body softly up and down, from side to side, back and forth etc. Try to really feel how it would be to lie floating on ocean waves being moved around. You should start feeling your body moving up and down etc just like you actually were on waves. At any point you feel like it you may try to project out of your body.
This method alone can be enough to get you out, but it is also a "loosening" method that makes you aware of your astral body, and makes it more loose and disconnected from your physical body, so actually this method can be something you start with to loosen yourself up from your physical, and then you can do any other astral projection method after it to increase the effects and be more sure to have an astral projection.
7. Ask for help
Yes, you can ask your guides (spirit guides, and guardian angels) to help you out. This has shown to be a very useful method for me. As you are in the state of astral projection, trying to project, simply say out loud in your mind "I ask for help to get out!" or "Please help me get out of my body my dear spirit guides!" or "I would be really greatful for any help I can get to fly out of my body!" and so on. And, you may then suddenly feel like somebody is grabbing your hands and pulling you out, or even like someone is lifting your body up in the air etc. Your spirit guides are always there ready to assist and help you - even when you are out of your body you may ask them to come to help you with different things or to teach you things (an spirit guide actually taught me a method of astral projection)
You may of course try to alter these methods and mix them in a way you prefer and that feels more comfortable or easier for you, as every person is different and some things that work for some might not work for others - but at least now you got several different methods to try out here.
Once you actually DO get out, you may find it useful to say out loud "AWARENESS NOW!" if you find yourself a bit sluggish and not so aware, and also "CONTROL NOW!" if you find difficulties in moving around properly as you want, and even "CLARITY NOW!" if you find you dont see well etc.
THE IMPORTANCE OF DIARIES:
The trick is to get your memory back with you. It's kind of the same problem as with dreams, sometimes we just remember vague parts of them. This is due to what is called the mind-split effect:
When you go out of your body, you are aware of your astral body, and your mind is focused in the astral body. At the same time, your physical body and physical brain is sleeping, and the physical brain is recording whatever the physical body experiences (which is just sleeping). So, when you get back, you have to "overwrite" this physical bodys memory with your astral bodys memory. The best way to do this is to start slowly, by just keeping out some seconds at a time, like 10 seconds, then return to your body while thinking "I will remember this!" and immediately get up from bed and write down your whole experience.
Then you can try to keep out longer and longer for each time you project. Every time you are about to go back to your body, say out loud "I will remember this!". You may also make an affirmation while performing your astral projection method of choice too, where you say to yourself "I will now go out of body and be completely aware in my astral body and remember everything that happens when I return to my physical body".
Every time after projecting, or even trying to projecting and thinking you have failed, write down in a special diary that you have just for this purpose everything you can remember about the experience, all details, from the very beginning of the projection (such as what method you used, sensations you felt before projection, sensations at the moment of separation, sensations and feelings after, things you saw, experienced and so on while out, sensations on moment of re-entering your body, etc) - Write it all down, and read through it after you wrote it down to see if you remember more you can add. Then just let go of the diary or the rest of the day, and later in the evening or night, read through the experience again and maybe you'll notice you remember more details, more things starting to come into your mind.
This diary, if done every time as I just told, will greatly improve your astral projection skills - even just reading it before trying to project will help a lot! Heck, and place it under your pillow at night and when trying to project to further improve the results.
In addition to your Astral Projection Diary, you should keep a Dream Diary. This is a separate diary, where you write down all dreams you have EVERY morning when you wake up - just as with the astral diary, write down everything you can remember from the dreams you had the night before you just woke up. Then read through it once and see if more details can be added, and as with the astral diary, read through it another time later in the evening or day, to see if you perhaps remember even more.
The purpose of this is to increase your dream memory as well as your astral abilities - in total it will make you better at both remembering your dreams, recalling your astral adventures, and becoming a more skilled and good astral projector. In addition, it will start making your dreams more spiritual in nature, you will start to have spontaneous projections at night while sleeping without even trying, that you will either remember in the morning, or you will wake up in the night and remember it after getting back to your body (remember to write down these experiences too!).
It is very important and of great help and assistance for yourself and your spiritual development to do this. I can't stress that enough, you really should get both an Astral Diary, and a Dream Diary, and write down in both of them every day (or at least every morning in the Dream Diary, and every time you try to project, or have a spontaneous projection in the Astral Diary).
It will also be a good reference for you to check your improvement later on, and to go back and review specific episodes and experiences. And it will be great to have it all logged so you can go back and re-read any experience or interesting dream you've had at any time you want to. And as said, reading these diaries both before astral projecting or going to sleep will greatly improve both your astral skills as well as your dreams.
Reading astral projection related books and litterature on the internet etc will also help, as your subcounscious mind will absorb it and put it into work and help you in the background to develop your astral abilities and make you have them more easier.
With all my best wishes for success, and hope you'll have some new interesting astral adventures this night too! (Or try do it in the morning or day as I suggested as its easier then than in the night)
Regards,
Edward Alexander
Here is a couple methods you may want to try out:
1. -Wake up, Get up, and go back to bed:
This means, you should put your alarm clock to wake you a bit earlier than normal, lets say 6 hours of sleep and then make your alarm clock wake you up. Then, get up from bed, and do something for 30 min to 1 hour to get yourself awake - it is STRONGLY helpful if you spent this time with reading some books or other material about astral projection as this will affect your subcounscious mind to make it easier for you to astral project.
In any case, after 30min to 1 hour, go back to bed, and do any astral projection method and you may find that it is much easier to get into the state of mind needed and then project from there.
2.
The "Stay awake" method:
Here you simply go to bed when you are tired and have your eyes open. You may blink of course now and then so your eyes doesnt dry up. The point is to just lie in your bed with your eyes open just like if you are awake and just look around in the room and notice everything in the room, take care of looking at all details and making it imprinted into your mind, just lie there in bed with your eyes open until you pass out / fall asleep from being too tired. At this point you may find yourself in your astral body, or in the astral state ready to project, because your body is asleep but your mind/astral body should still be awake as you forced yourself to stay awake - it was your body falling asleep. To enhance this method you can repeat over and over some times like a mantra or self-suggestion in your mind "When my body falls asleep, I will be awake in my astral body and project" - this can increase the effect and program your mind to automatically become aware inside your astral body when you fall asleep.
3. Self suggestions:
This is basically like last part of the above mentioned method, but instead you do any astral projection method of your choice, and you simply say to yourself over and over "When my body falls asleep, I will be awake in my astral body and project" or something similar, for example "I will now enter my astral body and project out of my physical" etc. You get the Idea original.gif
4. Imagine yourself where you want to go:
In this method, you simply go to bed, and you think of the place you want to project- it can be as simple as your own bedroom. The point is to try visualize the place, lets use your bedroom in this example, as good as possible and feel yourself being there. Now, in this example since you are imagining that you are in your bedroom, you should focus your attention and awareness on a specific place in the bedroom away from your physical body. This can be for example the ceiling - imagine yourself floating right under your ceiling, try to really FEEL yourself being up there and how it would feel to float there right under the ceiling. At one point you may feel yourself starting to vibrate or float, then try to increase this feeling and make it stronger, until you separate and find yourself floating under the ceiling. This method is specially useful if you already are able to get into the astral projection state without trouble, when in this state just do as I described. It also helps using self suggestions here too like in the examples mentioned above.
You can of course also use any other "target" of your choice but its best to use a place you know very well, such as the place of family or friends, and visualize and try feel yourself there, as in the example above with the ceiling.
5. Lucid dreams:
If you are able to have lucid dreams (dreams where you know you are dreaming and you are very aware) you can project astrally from these dreams very easy- Just focus your attentions and "will" yourself out of body, just imagine yourself flying out of the dream and out of your physical body and you are free and out flying. If you dont know about lucid dreams or how to achieve them, do a search on google, its tons of info on it out there and for some people this method is more effective than any of the others.
6. Body awareness
In this methods, you try send your awareness out of your body and move it around in different ways etc.. For example, you lie in your bed, and imagine and feel yourself floating out to the right all the way to the wall, then bounce back into your body, through your body, and out on the left side and to the wall on left of you. Then send awareness back again through your body to the right wall etc, just continue doing this for a while, sending your awareness back and forth from right to left, trying to really feel yourself being at those places and feeling yourself floating through your body and out on the other side. After having done this for several minutes, move on to trying to imagine and feel yourself bouncing up and down instead, like sending your awareness up from your body and up to the ceiling, then back down through your body and down to the ground. Repeat this too for a while, and move on to another part: Back and Forth, this means try to feel yourself floating out of your feet and feel your awareness outside your body moving down to the wall by the end of your feet, then move back up through your body and out of your head to the wall at end of your head (if your head, or any other side of your body, is placed directly towards a wall, just imagine yoursel floating through that wall some meters)
Then try to imagine yourself on gentle ocean waves, floating up and down, rocking your body softly up and down, from side to side, back and forth etc. Try to really feel how it would be to lie floating on ocean waves being moved around. You should start feeling your body moving up and down etc just like you actually were on waves. At any point you feel like it you may try to project out of your body.
This method alone can be enough to get you out, but it is also a "loosening" method that makes you aware of your astral body, and makes it more loose and disconnected from your physical body, so actually this method can be something you start with to loosen yourself up from your physical, and then you can do any other astral projection method after it to increase the effects and be more sure to have an astral projection.
7. Ask for help
Yes, you can ask your guides (spirit guides, and guardian angels) to help you out. This has shown to be a very useful method for me. As you are in the state of astral projection, trying to project, simply say out loud in your mind "I ask for help to get out!" or "Please help me get out of my body my dear spirit guides!" or "I would be really greatful for any help I can get to fly out of my body!" and so on. And, you may then suddenly feel like somebody is grabbing your hands and pulling you out, or even like someone is lifting your body up in the air etc. Your spirit guides are always there ready to assist and help you - even when you are out of your body you may ask them to come to help you with different things or to teach you things (an spirit guide actually taught me a method of astral projection)
You may of course try to alter these methods and mix them in a way you prefer and that feels more comfortable or easier for you, as every person is different and some things that work for some might not work for others - but at least now you got several different methods to try out here.
Once you actually DO get out, you may find it useful to say out loud "AWARENESS NOW!" if you find yourself a bit sluggish and not so aware, and also "CONTROL NOW!" if you find difficulties in moving around properly as you want, and even "CLARITY NOW!" if you find you dont see well etc.
THE IMPORTANCE OF DIARIES:
The trick is to get your memory back with you. It's kind of the same problem as with dreams, sometimes we just remember vague parts of them. This is due to what is called the mind-split effect:
When you go out of your body, you are aware of your astral body, and your mind is focused in the astral body. At the same time, your physical body and physical brain is sleeping, and the physical brain is recording whatever the physical body experiences (which is just sleeping). So, when you get back, you have to "overwrite" this physical bodys memory with your astral bodys memory. The best way to do this is to start slowly, by just keeping out some seconds at a time, like 10 seconds, then return to your body while thinking "I will remember this!" and immediately get up from bed and write down your whole experience.
Then you can try to keep out longer and longer for each time you project. Every time you are about to go back to your body, say out loud "I will remember this!". You may also make an affirmation while performing your astral projection method of choice too, where you say to yourself "I will now go out of body and be completely aware in my astral body and remember everything that happens when I return to my physical body".
Every time after projecting, or even trying to projecting and thinking you have failed, write down in a special diary that you have just for this purpose everything you can remember about the experience, all details, from the very beginning of the projection (such as what method you used, sensations you felt before projection, sensations at the moment of separation, sensations and feelings after, things you saw, experienced and so on while out, sensations on moment of re-entering your body, etc) - Write it all down, and read through it after you wrote it down to see if you remember more you can add. Then just let go of the diary or the rest of the day, and later in the evening or night, read through the experience again and maybe you'll notice you remember more details, more things starting to come into your mind.
This diary, if done every time as I just told, will greatly improve your astral projection skills - even just reading it before trying to project will help a lot! Heck, and place it under your pillow at night and when trying to project to further improve the results.
In addition to your Astral Projection Diary, you should keep a Dream Diary. This is a separate diary, where you write down all dreams you have EVERY morning when you wake up - just as with the astral diary, write down everything you can remember from the dreams you had the night before you just woke up. Then read through it once and see if more details can be added, and as with the astral diary, read through it another time later in the evening or day, to see if you perhaps remember even more.
The purpose of this is to increase your dream memory as well as your astral abilities - in total it will make you better at both remembering your dreams, recalling your astral adventures, and becoming a more skilled and good astral projector. In addition, it will start making your dreams more spiritual in nature, you will start to have spontaneous projections at night while sleeping without even trying, that you will either remember in the morning, or you will wake up in the night and remember it after getting back to your body (remember to write down these experiences too!).
It is very important and of great help and assistance for yourself and your spiritual development to do this. I can't stress that enough, you really should get both an Astral Diary, and a Dream Diary, and write down in both of them every day (or at least every morning in the Dream Diary, and every time you try to project, or have a spontaneous projection in the Astral Diary).
It will also be a good reference for you to check your improvement later on, and to go back and review specific episodes and experiences. And it will be great to have it all logged so you can go back and re-read any experience or interesting dream you've had at any time you want to. And as said, reading these diaries both before astral projecting or going to sleep will greatly improve both your astral skills as well as your dreams.
Reading astral projection related books and litterature on the internet etc will also help, as your subcounscious mind will absorb it and put it into work and help you in the background to develop your astral abilities and make you have them more easier.
With all my best wishes for success, and hope you'll have some new interesting astral adventures this night too! (Or try do it in the morning or day as I suggested as its easier then than in the night)
Regards,
Edward Alexander
As a note to the above, I agree to Ziggy's last post where he says the projection may not necessarily happen while you are doing the exercises, they can often occur "spontaneously" after, such as in the night when you've fallen asleep and suddenly you'll find yourself wake up out of body. So in a way I'm contradicting myself with my statement in the quoted post where I say do not try it at night or when you are very tired, but in my experience the most lucid and vivid astral projections, and the most interesting in my opinion, is the ones where you are able to follow the whole progress from you start your technique until you've fully projected and being aware and conscious through all the states in between this process. But, as said, it can happen even after you've done it all and think you've failed =)
Best of luck!
-EA
Thank you very much people i reall appreciate that help but example i do the rope technique when i finish it and nothing happens do i just rest thier and relax even more and try it again or do i wake up and try something else?
If anybody that can astral travel wants to astrally visit my home and tell me what color my bedroom walls are, let me know and I'll give you my address. You know, just to prove that it's real.
A warm hello to the threadstarter, I'm from Singapore.
Personally, I'm very interested in Astral Traveling.. I would like to try out your techniques but are there any precautions that I should follow?
Other than other astral traveling people, will I be able to see anything else?
Is there a chance that the process will somehow goes wrong and I will not be able to get back to my body?
Last question, during my first try out, is it possible for you guys to come and help me? Like, guiding me or something?
Personally, I'm very interested in Astral Traveling.. I would like to try out your techniques but are there any precautions that I should follow?
Other than other astral traveling people, will I be able to see anything else?
Is there a chance that the process will somehow goes wrong and I will not be able to get back to my body?
Last question, during my first try out, is it possible for you guys to come and help me? Like, guiding me or something?
How to notice if someone is looking at you trough a obe
QUOTE (Augustana @ Sep 8 2008, 07:52 PM)
A warm hello to the threadstarter, I'm from Singapore.
Personally, I'm very interested in Astral Traveling.. I would like to try out your techniques but are there any precautions that I should follow?
Other than other astral traveling people, will I be able to see anything else?
Is there a chance that the process will somehow goes wrong and I will not be able to get back to my body?
Last question, during my first try out, is it possible for you guys to come and help me? Like, guiding me or something?
Personally, I'm very interested in Astral Traveling.. I would like to try out your techniques but are there any precautions that I should follow?
Other than other astral traveling people, will I be able to see anything else?
Is there a chance that the process will somehow goes wrong and I will not be able to get back to my body?
Last question, during my first try out, is it possible for you guys to come and help me? Like, guiding me or something?
A huge variety of entities can be found on the astral plane. They can be split into a number of broad categories - negative entities (evil spirits, demons etc) thoughtforms (entities created by your own mind) neutral or positive entities such as ordinary spirits, other astral travellers, and higher entities (angels, divine beings)
There are indeed precautions which should be taken. As mentioned above, there is a presence of negative entities on the astral plane, which could cause frightening experiences. Before attempting to project, visualize yourself surrounded by a protecting white light. Tell yourself that the light will be present around you when you astral travel. If you enter the astral plane with good intentions, you will usually find that negative experiences are very scarce. If you do find yourself in an unpleasant situation, you can return to your body with ease.
There is NO way you will not be able to get back to your body.
Before your first try, ask that your spirit guide be waiting for you, and assist you during your projection.
How can i know if someone is looking at me trough a OBE?
QUOTE (SLaY3R @ Sep 9 2008, 11:29 AM)
How can i know if someone is looking at me trough a OBE?
As far as I know, you can't. Well, I have read about instances, but it's very rare.
Thanks for replying.
I will have my first tryout on Friday.. After which, I will post my experience here. I will come back with more questions, I hope.
I will have my first tryout on Friday.. After which, I will post my experience here. I will come back with more questions, I hope.
Thanks stardust for your fast reply BTW its the first forum that i go to that actually answers the questions lol. I had the feeling somebody was watching me yesterday in the top conor of my bedroom and then i said i dont want to astral project tonight please go away the i saw a kind of fyling light ball go in front of me and trough the wall and out of the house?
Often the feeling of being watch can be caused by actually being watched, and for people who have developed their intuition and ability to sense such things it is often easier to know if "someone" is present or not. Some people have astral sight naturally as well which means you can see in to the spirit world without projecting and thus see any spirits/entities around including other OBE'ers - and some develop this astral sight on their own from practicing.
In your case, sound like you had a momentary experience of astral sight when it comes to seeing ball of light flying away.
-EA
In your case, sound like you had a momentary experience of astral sight when it comes to seeing ball of light flying away.
-EA
Thats good to know thank you whats wierd is that before i saw it i asked Jerry Gross a really exipirence guy in the OBE domain to help me get a OBE i send him that email on the same night
Interesting (don't know who Jerry Gross is though), maybe that had something to do with the experience then. Maybe he did come over and help you out and that's what you experienced.
-EA
-EA
Probely thats what i think. 
I am trying to find a perfect book for astral projection what would you suggest me? Need quick advice
This morning I tried to Astral Project. (Around 3.30am)
I was really tired and I was on my bed.. I kept telling my mind to Astral Project, and imagined myself standing at a corner of my room looking at myself.. Nothing happened but it was really scary when I was falling asleep, I could feel that my soul is drifting away from the body.. I felt VERY light. All parts of my body left except for my brain (head part).. My mind was a total pitch of darkness and I was so terrified that I quickly opened my eyes.
Is this a sign of astral projecting? I didn't wake up deliberately and went back to sleep. I was just lying on my bed thinking of astral projecting. That was some scary ****!!
I was really tired and I was on my bed.. I kept telling my mind to Astral Project, and imagined myself standing at a corner of my room looking at myself.. Nothing happened but it was really scary when I was falling asleep, I could feel that my soul is drifting away from the body.. I felt VERY light. All parts of my body left except for my brain (head part).. My mind was a total pitch of darkness and I was so terrified that I quickly opened my eyes.
Is this a sign of astral projecting? I didn't wake up deliberately and went back to sleep. I was just lying on my bed thinking of astral projecting. That was some scary ****!!
Its not scary its mor Stunning than scary you act like "WTF OMg lol i feel my astral slef project omg" thats how poeple act when it actually happen and it does seem like a beganing of a astral Projection be less afraid and give your shelf more time and youll astral project. Hope you succed but dont take my word for it i am not a expert at astral projecting actually never tired really much but from what i read at some other places it seems like a beganining of a Astral Project.
but dont take my word for it i am not a expert at astral projecting actually never tired really much but from what i read at some other places it seems like a beganining of a Astral Project.
Slayer:
My favorite book so far is Astral Dynamics - http://www.astraldynamics.com
Kinda the "bible" of Astral projection in my opinion, really great and should be in the bookshelf of anyone interested in astral projection.
cheers.
My favorite book so far is Astral Dynamics - http://www.astraldynamics.com
Kinda the "bible" of Astral projection in my opinion, really great and should be in the bookshelf of anyone interested in astral projection.
cheers.
I'm sorry, but shouldn't astral projection be the easiest thing in the world to prove? If you claim to see things not in your presence, then simply prove it and let mainstream science in on the fun of experimenting with such a wonderful area of study. Put an object in a locked room and have someone who claims to project tell you what it is. If it's possible to reproduce a positive outcome then no one could doubt astral projection's validity. If astral projection has nothing to do with the physical world then at least have two people find some sort of common denominator in their projections, anything that at least proves it's not just taking place in a person's imagination. Right now it reads to me like nothing more than self-projected fantasy.
Science and governments already know well about this phenomena and it's being used by governments as already mentioned for various purposes, from spying to finding missing people and so on (some people claim this is how they found Saddam among other things but I don't know if there's anything to that). Check out the two documentaries I'm listing here, which focuses on remote viewing and the governmental use of this and involvement with other psychic abilities:
CIA - Psychic spies:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=73...=remote+viewing
Remote viewing an abduction:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=87...ewing+abduction
You may also find this wikipedia article about the Stargate Project of the US government interesting:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_stargate
A huge lot of research and experiments have already been done on this and other psychic abilities throughout the years with some interesting results, but generally it is not something you'd read about in the news just the same way you're not seeing other things in the news that is going on "behind the scenes". This of course has its purpose but it's something I'm a bit lazy to make a discussion about here nor is it really the topic of this thread and there's plenty enough information on it "out there" in any case
You may find this interesting too as it relates to the above and the reasons why they don't want to let you know such things http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKULTRA
CIA - Psychic spies:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=73...=remote+viewing
Remote viewing an abduction:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=87...ewing+abduction
You may also find this wikipedia article about the Stargate Project of the US government interesting:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_stargate
A huge lot of research and experiments have already been done on this and other psychic abilities throughout the years with some interesting results, but generally it is not something you'd read about in the news just the same way you're not seeing other things in the news that is going on "behind the scenes". This of course has its purpose but it's something I'm a bit lazy to make a discussion about here nor is it really the topic of this thread and there's plenty enough information on it "out there" in any case
You may find this interesting too as it relates to the above and the reasons why they don't want to let you know such things http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKULTRA
You're missing my point. If something like this exists then it can easily be proven. All it would take is a single willing subject and a researcher with half a brain and there ya go--irrefutable proof that would be able to withstand mainstream scientific scrutiny. No government conspiracy would be able to prevent something like this from happening.
Many researchers have already done that, and as said it is not something you'd be reading about in the news. And if you do its usually quickly forgotten or "explained" away by some "experts"
You can find material about such experiments and researches who's been involved with it though by other means.
Btw I still recommend you to check out the videos and links I posted above as it seems you did not do that considering you replied only 10 minutes after I posted it =)
And here's an old post with some links to resources with various scientific research on things like this and other psychic abilities:
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...howtopic=120420
Best of luck,
-EA
You can find material about such experiments and researches who's been involved with it though by other means.
Btw I still recommend you to check out the videos and links I posted above as it seems you did not do that considering you replied only 10 minutes after I posted it =)
And here's an old post with some links to resources with various scientific research on things like this and other psychic abilities:
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...howtopic=120420
Best of luck,
-EA
Hello
I have a question. Is it possible to find out something about me in the astral? Maybe something about my health? Or health of other people?
I have a question. Is it possible to find out something about me in the astral? Maybe something about my health? Or health of other people?
Mostly anything is possible in the astral Planes with concentration and determination everything possible
I got a question people i need the best thing that works for you guys to astral project i meditate every night for 30mins and i just cant get to astral project why? neeed your tricks
Ok. Say I managed to astral project the first time I tried it. What if I wanted to go and visit an old friend, but I had no idea where in the world they were? Could I just imagine them and I would appear wherever they are?
QUOTE (SLaY3R @ Sep 11 2008, 10:35 PM)
Mostly anything is possible in the astral Planes with concentration and determination everything possible
How do you know that when you never were in astral?
QUOTE (outofbody @ Sep 12 2008, 11:59 AM)
How do you know that when you never were in astral?
To anyone who doesn't believe in the possibility of Astral Travel, please read the information at this link:
http://www.texfiles.com/eckhardt/ladyinblue.htm
And if you want to cut to the chase, scroll down to where it says
"It apparently didn’t take too long. Somebody went to the convent in Agreda and asked the right question, which went something like "Does anybody here know anything about a Sister who’s in New Spain teaching Indian Christianity?"
and begin reading there.
QUOTE (Augustana @ Sep 11 2008, 09:42 AM)
This morning I tried to Astral Project. (Around 3.30am)
I was really tired and I was on my bed.. I kept telling my mind to Astral Project, and imagined myself standing at a corner of my room looking at myself.. Nothing happened but it was really scary when I was falling asleep, I could feel that my soul is drifting away from the body.. I felt VERY light. All parts of my body left except for my brain (head part).. My mind was a total pitch of darkness and I was so terrified that I quickly opened my eyes.
Is this a sign of astral projecting? I didn't wake up deliberately and went back to sleep. I was just lying on my bed thinking of astral projecting. That was some scary ****!!
I was really tired and I was on my bed.. I kept telling my mind to Astral Project, and imagined myself standing at a corner of my room looking at myself.. Nothing happened but it was really scary when I was falling asleep, I could feel that my soul is drifting away from the body.. I felt VERY light. All parts of my body left except for my brain (head part).. My mind was a total pitch of darkness and I was so terrified that I quickly opened my eyes.
Is this a sign of astral projecting? I didn't wake up deliberately and went back to sleep. I was just lying on my bed thinking of astral projecting. That was some scary ****!!
Can someone enlighten me by clearing my doubt?
QUOTE (MindFire @ Jul 19 2008, 10:20 AM)
How about how the dude who started this thread turned out to be a shady deceiving liar of a trickster.
I don't know the deal and i don't really care for high school musical drama
but Astral projection is real and i really don't care to pursue people in believing this or not. its your lost but it opens up your world and the way you see things for the better
QUOTE (Augustana @ Sep 13 2008, 05:11 AM)
Can someone enlighten me by clearing my doubt?
Augustana, the 'drifting' feeling you felt was certainly a sign of astral projection. Though the sensations are new to you, and may feel frightened, you need to teach yourself to 'let go,' and allow the projection to happen. The biggest barrier to astral projection is fear! Good luck.
As for me being a 'liar' and 'trickster,' these allegations all sprout from a past member called 'Raven,' a member whom I had been in contact with both on and off the boards. After a severe personal disagreement he then set out to abolish this thread by calling me a fake. I really don't care what people think of me, as long as skeptics and believers alike can try this method and achieve results.
I can verify that what Ziggy says is true and works.
I've been doing these things for 15 years myself, so if he is a liar well so be it, at least he's telling true lies, which can help people in any case.
From what he tells it seems to me he is speaking the truth though and have experience with the subject. No "seems" is an understatement, he DOES speak the truth =)
Cheers,
-EA
I've been doing these things for 15 years myself, so if he is a liar well so be it, at least he's telling true lies, which can help people in any case.
From what he tells it seems to me he is speaking the truth though and have experience with the subject. No "seems" is an understatement, he DOES speak the truth =)
Cheers,
-EA
Alright then, I shall try again tonight. Thank you!
I tried to project yesterday but to no avail, it failed. Although I felt that I drifted and really projected but I still did not project.. When I opened my eyes, All I could see was still my room.. Everything was as per normal.
I kept thinking of projecting, imagining myself watching over me, and calling my spirit guide. I spent hours closing my eyes doing so but the results were disappointing.
I wonder why I failed to project.. I had a slight dizziness.. Was it because of that?
I kept thinking of projecting, imagining myself watching over me, and calling my spirit guide. I spent hours closing my eyes doing so but the results were disappointing.
I wonder why I failed to project.. I had a slight dizziness.. Was it because of that?
Keep practicing, it doesn't happen on the first couple tries.
Some people need to practice for months on a daily basis before they have their first projection and find the right method for them.
Personally I spent around 1 month with training several times a day before I had my first self-induced out of body experience. That's around 15 years ago now.
So, keep it up and good luck!
-EA
Some people need to practice for months on a daily basis before they have their first projection and find the right method for them.
Personally I spent around 1 month with training several times a day before I had my first self-induced out of body experience. That's around 15 years ago now.
So, keep it up and good luck!
-EA
Oh, haha. I'll keep trying.
Anyway, does projecting makes me tired when I get back to my body?
I can't wait to project!
Anyway, does projecting makes me tired when I get back to my body?
I can't wait to project!
I know how do you feel!!! I will fly 10 times around the world of happiness when I project the first time.
I think I might have experienced this, but I'm not sure...
When I was I around eleven or twelve, I was about to go to sleep when I felt this wierd sensation...it's not exactly like you described, but similar. On my naval I felt this strong pulling sensation and vibrations and my whole body stiffened...It felt like I was caught between sleep and awakeness, and I was aware I was lying in bed but I couldn't open my eyes. I tried hard to open them - I was terrified, but I couldn't. Then it was like I fell into some sort of wierd dream. I was trying to walk in the dream, but my legs either completley refused to move or moved very slowly and jerky. Then, I stopped trying to physically move and just thought about walking...and I started moving. After that, it was like I had total control. I could think about a place or person and bam! I was there.
When I woke up, I actually felt more rested than normal. I've been having these experiences on-and-off for years now, and I just kind of assumed it was lucid dreaming...but can it be astral traveling instead? I'm confused.
When I was I around eleven or twelve, I was about to go to sleep when I felt this wierd sensation...it's not exactly like you described, but similar. On my naval I felt this strong pulling sensation and vibrations and my whole body stiffened...It felt like I was caught between sleep and awakeness, and I was aware I was lying in bed but I couldn't open my eyes. I tried hard to open them - I was terrified, but I couldn't. Then it was like I fell into some sort of wierd dream. I was trying to walk in the dream, but my legs either completley refused to move or moved very slowly and jerky. Then, I stopped trying to physically move and just thought about walking...and I started moving. After that, it was like I had total control. I could think about a place or person and bam! I was there.
When I woke up, I actually felt more rested than normal. I've been having these experiences on-and-off for years now, and I just kind of assumed it was lucid dreaming...but can it be astral traveling instead? I'm confused.
Just wondering. Ive read in this topic that people have traveled to other places and outer space. How is that possible? How fast can a person travel?
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