You're at that point I remember too well. So close to projecting - right on the border - yet locked in place by your own emotions. Remember, you don't force yourself to project, you let it happen. You don't lie in bed every night and think "Darnit, what am I doing wrong? I want to project sooo bad!" you simply repeat your exercises every night and know that sooner or later, when you let it happen, or perhaps least expect it, you will leave your body.


Side note: You'll see that Ascension forums is back in my sig. I stopped maintaining it was taken offline a few months ago. This was both due to work, and a few other things. However, I have put the board back online.

I just joined those forums

Anyway, should I just meditate every night? I'm afraid I'll fall asleep. Thanks for the help. Let's hope that tonight I'll be able to get a little farther than before. Plus it's my birthday, and that would be really nice! And one more question : what if I get scared and jolt myself back into my physical body? Would I still be able to try again in the same night?

Sammy

Happy birthday! And yeah you can try as many times as you want.

Hello!

Hm. I read that it is not good to project for selfish things. How can i understand this?
i.e. i want see what i will do in 10 years. Is this OK? :S

Thanks

HI

i am mk and i am relay inspired that you would take the time to listen to ppl and tell us about Astral Projection.i have a couple of questions for u...

1.my dad told me that when u enter astral projection that u can see and hear what ppl in the physical world are doing...is this true

2.there are sites on the INTERNET that want to sell me CDs that play the correct frequency that makes you go into astral projection immediately.

3.is it possible to do Astral Projection with out havening a bi g attention span.(focus)

What about the rapid heart beat? Is it normal? It was so fast.

My previous post..

Those are all good questions.

1. This is a big question to answer, and it takes a lot of explaining. The short answer is yes, it is possible. The longer answer deals with the fluid, ever-changing nature of the astral plane according to the projector's consciousness. The astral plane is, to put it bluntly, a duplicate of the physical. This could be considered its default state. However, our perception of it is influenced by the state of our own consciousness - so you could be in your living room listening to your dad on the phone or, you could be in a forest - depending what 'frequency' you're operating at. Hope I haven't confused you, I can go into further detail if you're interested.

2. IGNORE the people who want you to spend money in order to achieve AP. You don't need to.

3. Yes it is, me being a person who suffers from it You can do most of the exercises while drifting off to sleep, so they don't require a huuuge amount of patience, though patience is always a useful virtue.

Some people say that whether you project or not is determined by the divine aspect of yourself. But it can also be just some bull****.
Having a good motivation of course helps.



Yeah its normal. Probably because you feel it better or some kind of energy builds up in there.

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Ziggy do go on about the 1 question im interested.

I'm interested on astral projection since when I was 10,

but I started working on astral projection from the first of this year (2008)

I red first 40 page of this thread

with just one projection , I found my environment cloudy and my body asleep,

but after a few seconds lost my consciousness ...

I have problem when feeling the vibrations ...

when after a while I reach the vibrations state ...
I can not separate from my body ...
and after half an hour or one hour I leave the bed ....

is there any technique to separate the body when feeling the vibration state ?

also most of the time when projecting ,

I get to asleep,

is there any solution to prevent from sleep ?

thanks alot

Only solution i know is practice.

Just read the first post, as I have always wanted to try this. Will keep giving it a go until it works!

Good luck!

I think I had a minior experience last night, but I am not sure, if any one could help me! I must admit I was a bit of a skeptist at first, but in a way I wanted to experience this so bad I doubted it.

I was laying on my stomach, and my head was facing to my right. I closed my eyes, and imagined my self being in between two magnets, being pulled up and down, and I kept reciting to my self "I am going to have a astral experience". I said experience because I forgot the exact sentence I was supposed to say. Eventually, I think about 5 minutes in, although my eyes were closed, I am sure of it, I saw my self, from the view I was laying at, as if I was still in my body, but I am SURE my eyes were closed, for a split second I felt as if I quickly was pulled up, and I saw another arm quickly come out of my right arm, but fall back in, it also felt as if this happened to my upper back and head, but it was all very quick. At this point I was thinking "Did I make my self think that, or am I actually going to do this?" I continued on, and eventually I started hearing a sound similar to popcorn popping VERY quickly bedside my left ear, I got excited and thinking I might actually have an experience! This lasted for I THINK 15-20 seconds, then it slowed down, at the point where it slowed down, in my closed eyes I saw patterns of I think pentagons waving outwards, whether that has any relevance or not. Then for some reason it felt like every thing stopped, and my willpower got mad and I foolishly opened my eyes.

For the rest of the night I could not fall asleep for a bit, and I felt very paranoid and scared, but I guess that is because of what happened. I am certainly a believer now, and could any one tell me any tips or any thing as to what happened?

That jolt sensation is your body entering the second stage of sleep. You go through many stages, and the second is signalled by that jolt. Sometimes you're not completely in a state of unconcioussness yet, so you feel it and wake up. It is NOT "Astral Projection"

HI

Ziggy its Mk again and i am having some problems...i keep trying to do AP but its not working.I wake up every morning in 4 am..but i think this might be the problem...i don't splash my face. i just look at the clock lie back down and think i am in the corner of the room and i keep saying i fly i fly i fly i fly over and over again but i just fall asleep...



so can u help me plz...

Hello

I had a great experience last night!!
First i tried to project with i-Doser. But after a few minutes a fall asleep.
Then, at 5 oclock i woke up and decided to try again. I said to me "I will go to the Astral World" (But in german. Maybe i translated it false. )
and imagined me standing in the bedroom. At 5.30 oclock started with this.
Then... I am note sure but I think that i fall asleep with a strange dream. In this dream I began to fly.
I can exactly remeber how it felt in the air (not like in other dreams). And then.. when i began to fly in the dream
I woke up with a loud noise (Noise changed a little bit after a certain time) and a strange feeling under my skin.
I don't what it was. (Maybe vibration or something?)
And I can't explain how it was in my head!!
Then I was sure, I am ready to leave my body.
I stand up and said to me after few seconds "I want to go back to my body" because I was afraid that some evil could attack me
After this, I woke up (it was 6.30).

I think it is a good sign for the beginning. or not?
I don't think that I only dreamed all this.

well i also have the same problem and im not sure if there is a quick solution cos being able to stay awake comes with practice,, some people told me that when you try to have an OBE try to relax you physical body only and try to keep your mind busy by imaginign your self climbing up the rope or in another place or the room or on a rollercoster or stuff like this,, this way u`ll keep ur brain awake and ur body relaxed at the same time,,,,



good luck






good luck

actually its a great sign...do it for couple of more times and you definetly get it...

Do you experience vibrations, or any sensations typical of AP? These could include numbness, tingling, unexplained sounds, weightlessness?

In the meantime try this: http://ascensionforums.invisionplus.net/?m...0&#entry379

I've used i-Doser before, does it work well for you?

Another example of how easy it is to project from a dream. The loud noise and 'wierd feeling' affirm it as a genuine experience, if you consciously felt them as opposed to dreaming them.

I suffer from sleep paralysis.
On night I went into a deep SP and I just couldn't get out of it. It felt a lot deeper and more restraining than ever before.
My body began to float from my bed and I started to here loud unfamiliar noises all around me.
I was frightened and I tried even hard to get out of the SP. I suddenly fell onto my bed again and instantly woke up.

That was my first astral experience =]

My second one was accidental too; I fell into sleep paralysis again. But this time music began to play, very strange orchestra music. I am usually frightened of SP but when the music began to play I felt... Happy and peaceful. However, my arm jolted into the air (as if someone grabbed it). It frightened me and I instantly woke.

I usually have a string of SP attacks and then I am ok for about a month. I am going through the attacks again... I might give this a try.
The only thing that is stopping me is fear.

nope ziggy no sign at all...

But im starting to get up and splash my face and dry it and all but its quite discouraging because i cant do it...

No. It is like I listen to music. Nothing happens. Maybe because I'm a beginner?!
The best experiences I had since I started practicing were without i-Doser or hemi-sync.
But I think it is better to learn without this things.

Don't know if this has anything to do with the astral world, but..., This one time i woke up in the middle of the night and i heard someone talking and it stopped just a second after i woke up. It felt like the voice was right next to my ear (it was so loud and clear....). The wierd part is that it was a voice of no one i know and it felt like i have heard that voice before!

Anyway, the another astral experince (that i have been aware of) was that my left arm jolted as if someone grabbed it (just like mrdeano describes it). I woke up instantly after it happened. I thought that i just moved my physical arm when i was sleeping. But after a while, i realised that my arm moved through the wall, which was right next to my left arm.

Interesting. Most people at least feel the vibes associated with AP. The only advice I can give is don't be disheartened, and if you aren't meant to project, it won't happen.



I didn't find it very helpful either. Although I've heard the I-Doser for lucid dreams is quite effective. Personally I don't use such things.

I'm going to vent here for a second today, someone has been psi attacking me the whole day. It is really been aggrivating, mostly because I can't find the origin of it. I use this techinque against others myself, but it seems as if another is trying to really send massive amounts of negative energy upon me, to where it has felt for hours today thorns going up into some of my viens...really annoying. If this doesn't stop I am just going to go off and shield like crazy...

-.- So, if it is any of you that are trying to contact me out there, please do not at the moment and keep your thoughts to yourself!!!!! Thanks

OMG ziggy i cant believe it... i was starting to project...:)it was in the morning around 6... when i herd a sound like a violin string braking and then i asked my self "am i projection" and then all of a sudden under my skin it started to vibrate...the sensation is hard to explain...but i couldn't move any part of my body...it was so weird then i really felt uncomfortable and i thought about my leg really hard and then i tried to move it and i moved it...as soon as i moved it the AP stopped... thanks ziggy for all your help



by the way im not shure if this is a good thing plz reply

Yah, I get that too...Thats the furthest I've gotten...And, its normally when I dont try to AP...I can be about to fall asleep, and start feeling huge vibrations. To the point where I think they are real. Then a wooshing sound. Then I feel like Im spinning. Then I feel like im layin on a diffrent direction I was before. And Once I opened my eyes, and I was layin on the side of my bed, and then i got freaked out and came back starin at my ceiling...

Whats this i-doser you were speaking about?

Well done! This is definitely a good thing. You're obviously doing everything right.




They're audio tracks. Two tones at slightly different frequencies play in each earphone, in a way which people claim alters the brainwaves into desired states. They're not worth buying IMO.

Oh brainwaves.. i tried that once! I even made my own track with extremely high sounds when i listened to it i felt very sleepy (it was middle of the day) and slept for a hour .

I cant say they actually DID something useful rather than getting me refreshed by sweet dreams and that only happened once!

Hey I need help please !

I'm practicing for long time,

just a few projections,

I found a site that says by using magnetic pills you can astral project:

http://www.magneurol.com/benefits_astralprojection.html

they are selling
One Bottle – $49.00 + S/H
one bottle, a 30 day supply,
of Magneurol.
Contains 60 capsules for
$49 plus shipping and handling.

at link below :

https://navigator.higherbalance.com/magneurol.php


any one tried it ?

is it useful?

also is there any solution to lightening sleep to enable us get up at the middle of night?

I really tired of falling asleep !
and want to control it !

any suggestions and ideas appreciated,

regards

The pills are probably fake. They can work like a placebo if you believe but they would still be fake.

ok thanks,

I'm practicing anything

3 times a day meditation,

listening to brainwaves and also I-Doser

cleaning the ckakras

diet control, (Non-vegetarian diet)

and many thins that I do,


anyway

I will keep practicing this night !

this night I will take a cold bath against only splashing my face

hope it will useful

pray for me

Good luck!

Hey! It's so good to see guys have better results everytime I'm reading this forum. Bad thing is just I can't do AP, couse of my life's rythm, i should try it in fridays, but even than i am too tired to push myself to do AP. Tonight too... i am too tired, at the result i'll just go sleep

Omg! Last night i experienced smth new! But wierd thing is that i didn't thought about AP.
When i was in bed i listened to Radiohead - The Tourist... very, very nice song, makes me feel relaxed. I couldn't sleep, couse i wanted to listen to other songs too, so i turned off my mp3 player... So, i closed my eyes... but then:
I started to fall down, i saw blue light glistened and i heard very wierd noise - like an old man trying to say "mmmm, mmmm, mmmm, mmmm". Noise was so clear and loud and I started to release i'm going to travel but i wasn't ready... Actually this noise freaked me out, i was so scared from this noise, so i tried to open my eyes, but it was hard to open it! I tried again and this time used more power so i did it. I thought - ok, whatever, i should sleep, couse next day is school day. But what a.... ? After 10 sec. i started to fall down again, and again lights and again wierd noise!! After that i was so excited, i couldn't sleep, so i turned my mp3 on and listened to Queen greatest hits really quiet.

I've also experinced this, someone talking in a clear and loud voice.. Of course when i realised this i woke up immediately. The wierd part was that the voice sounded so familiar in a way... Can't remember anything about what he was talking about though.

I can try as hard as I want to project willingly, but my closest experiences to projection are when Im either really really tired, or when I wake up in the middle of the night, get up for a bit, then it happenes. Most of the time I dont even try, and I get huge vibrating sensations, Like my whole house is shaking, I feel like Im gonna fall off my bed. And then I feel like Im spinning. One time I opened my eyes, and I was hanging off my bed, and then I got freaked out and then I was bakc in my body staring and my ceiling...I still havent got anything nearly as close willingy...

I have a few queries about astral travel.
If you suffer from a mental illness (such as depression), are you still able to achieve astral travel?
Considering all that nitty gritty negativity going on in your head.
What do angels look like on the astral plane? Winged and all?
If you sleep naked, will the astral projection of yourself also be naked?
Discuss! I'm genuinely interested in the concept of astral projection. (:

Depression does not hinder astral travel, in fact I have known people who used it as an escape. Be careful:)

Angel is a broad term in the astral plane, referring to any divine being or entity of the light - they can be in all shapes and sizes.

Your astral self will be naked unless you wish it to be otherwise.

hey I think that I'm learning something ...


during these days I found that when getting to border of sleep
and making myself in normal state of trance,

my head (inner head)
wants to get up of my bed and get out of body
buy just only less than an inch,
and after two or three tries my consciousness
gets normal and I get out of sleep border

anyone can describe this experience ?

and how I can continue at this state to get out of my body ?


thanks....

Sorry I haven't update my progress in awhile. I guess that's probably because I haven't made any progress. I've been trying but it's really not working. Good luck to everyone else! (:

So last night I went to bed at around 12:00 AM and got ready to join the land of nod. I lay on my stomach (my usual sleeping position) and thought I might as well think about astral travel. So in my mind I kept on repeating the words leave body, remember because I couldn't be bothered to say the entire thing. Anyway I think I was on the verge of sleeping, because I was becoming drowsy, and then I was suddenly disturbed by a high-pitched beep in one ear. My ear was against the pillow, and it's hard to describe but I've never heard a noise quite like that. I don't have any ear problems, as far as I know. It sounded like a beep that would come from a machine or something. At this point I became a bit frightened and opened my eyes, I might of cut the beep off by doing that, not entirely sure. But I don't suppose this was anything to do with astral travel, was it? It was a pretty pathetic result if it was. xD I tried earlier that day to do it, but to no avail. I also tried it this morning for around half an hour, but no luck yet.

I've been feeling sick lately, so I fell asleep today, and woke up at around 6. Normally when this happens, my body normally tries to project by itself...So hopefully something will happen...

I have new results. Now everytime i wake up in the middle of night and trying to sleep again, i guess i'm leaving my body somehow. But i even don't think about that. I have same things happening (allready wrote). And it's not really comfortable if I just want to go back to sleep, but unlikable noise freaks me out, some blue lights I see and I fall down in my bad. I open my eyes immidtiatly. But if i'll allow to go far as i can with thouse things i feel? Maybe i should imagine my room, and when it starts allready think about leaving my body? Maybe i can travel? But it is so scary to feel those things. Anyway, i'll try my way.

That's happened to me, except it happened while I was on the computer. I think it's normal so don't sweat it or anything (:

I used to paint this sing before going to sleep and after awaking. I thought doing something like that will make me more aware of my dreams and thus astral travel and spiritual stuff.

Now the funny thing is when i got burred with it and disappointed by lack of results i just burned them all lol. And doing that even helped! After burning them for two nights i have gotten very nice dreams (i got nothing while i was doing that journal). This night i dreamed a thing that caught my attention.

Basically i went to some mini-park i thought was at the middle of my city. I went to the platform which was at the middle of that park , it had some weird waterfalls (people were swimming in it) at its sides and a tree in its middle. As i saw the tree in the middle i immediately remembered all the times i went here and what a precious place it is to me (didnt really remember anything just a feeling). But the tree itself was all leafless and covered in some dark matter from its outside that kinda made me feel sad because i knew something was suppressed.

Anyways this is the part i actually want to clear up: There was a boy siting on the tree. Suddenly my little brother went closer to the tree and a boulder fell from the kid in the tree nearly killing my brother. In instant i just whaled (attack) at the boys father (which was an intellectual looking man wearing glasses) saying to protect his kid , even though i knew they weren't guilty i just wanted to protect my brother. The man looked at me with surprised eyes i felt kinda bad for whaling (attacking) him but he just stepped back and disappeared.

Does anyone know what the last part of the dream could mean?

When you get the falling off your bed part, isn't it a sign that your soul is at different levels with your body?

What do you mean by at different levels? It certainly means your astral body is outside your physical body.