Look man I havent written a Book don't be Snide or i wnot post. IM trying to help you ok. and honestly I really dont appreciate snide remarks. I never asked for this so you can at the very least Be nice.

Hey Raistlin, in what language can I speak in astral plane? Everyone speaks in english?

i am going to try and learn how to lucid dream and then i will try and astral travel since i can never really get a perfectly quite place to try it

sanjuro it's much like earth languages, most people stick to what they know, but the cool thing is it becomes a type of universal language in itself. That's the cool part about it really. NO matter what language someone is speaking in.. you understand them. it's more fluent there.

You talkin to me? If you were Raistlin, I'm sorry you read/interpreted what I said as "snide" when it was written with humble truth and simplicity. I really meant what I said! What would make you think I was being arrogant? LOL lighten up would you...that's what it means to be enlightened. Please keep answering questions and THANKS! Maybe re-read what I said?

Hey man, I have some questions.

1)The Astral Demons, or whatever, the negative entities, what do they do to you? Can they harm you? What is so bad about them?

2)Can you speak to dead relatives, or dead anybody?

1...Normally, no. Your guide will normally save you, but they scare you.

2... Yes, there are varying passageways that lead you to the dead.

^^^Both from a book I read...

1. Normally evil beings Cant hurt you, but they can get passage to you sometimes..

2. i speak with my dead relatives i never met in real life on a constant basis.. they teach me abilities they've learned since they;ve been dead. so i hope that answers ur question.

and im sorry i blasted ya guy, i thought you were giving me a hard time. thaks for caring. ill keep posting and answering as many questions as i can. that i know answers to.

Thats very great, btw if someone I know Is in astral plane and I call his name, he will hear me and come to me?
Btw If you were in astal plane I could find you?

Ps. I Was trying to project this morning until some retarded dogs started to bark lol, damn beasts ruined my concentration.

Great to see everyone exchanging ideas. It's also wonderful to see so many people attempting to project.

I've noticed a particular interest in negative entities. I've also noticed some of the people who have answered questions have given false information about them.

I want to make a few points clear:

- Negative entities cannot harm you physically in any way.

- Negative entities cannot posess you or 'find passage' into you while you project.

- If approached by a negative entity, you must not try to overpower it or 'kick it's ass' as some of you have suggested. Negative entities operate on a low vibrational frequency and feed off negative feelings and intentions. Attempting to attack one is going to cause more trouble for yourself. Instead, calmly attempt to teleport to a different location by visualizing it. If the entity follows, try sending it love. This may sound difficult but it is easy in the astral as emotions are a very powerful element. Your 'love' for the negative entity will destroy or maim it to the point that it stops bothering you. If this does not appeal, simply tell yourself you want to be back in your body and your astral body will obey. But remember - do not attempt to attack negative entities.

Also remember that you are extremely unlikely to encounter one and you should not let the possibility have effect on your travels!

Thanks.

One question:

Does all negative entitys are retarded? There is no sneaky and smart ones who can trick you?

Good question. There are a very small amount of negs out there which are more developed. Possibly more intelligent and 'sneaky.' They may be slightly more difficult to get rid of and appear more vivid and intimidating. But you will still get rid of them if you abide by the points I listed earlier. Sending them love will still render them harmless.

Thanks.

From what i know, although i've only been outside my body and not 2 far from it, the negative entities are on the lowest level. The weakest and low energy souls, that are easily avoided. Some say they have been to a plane where jesus is said to be, aswell as spirit guardians, i would love to go there.

I kindly request this to be moved to the subforum....

Whats you problem?

LOl you know it's funny this guy should say negative entities can't harm you.. because they can lol. I've been a target since i started doing it.. but that's my job i guess.. im not supposed to be liked up there by negative entities. Not to scare anyone but yes they can harm you, don't let him tell you they can't, you shouldn't assume on facts being untrue really.. i dont wanna cause beef with anyone im just telling you what you should know.

Can you tell us about any injuries you have had from negative entities?

Hey, don't worry about it... Don't do anything worthy of harm and they won't bother you.

Well sorry to say.. just like in life, there are.. ugh mean spirited people even on astral plane.. and sometimes just like life they do bother you..I've only been hurt a few times on astral while i was training for the job iwas doing while iwas 6 and 7 years old. I havent been hurt in astral specifically.. the only time i come home showing scars or bruises.. is every month when im required to run the Field tests... ugh don't ask i can't explain this, or you wouldn't believe it.

Hey there Rasitlin,

You seem like a very experienced projector, and for that I respect your opinion.

What I said was, negative entities cannot harm you physically. I said this because I have been projecting for many years and never have I come across a case in which someone has been physically harmed by a negative entity. You seem to beleive otherwise, which is absolutely fine, but I think you're getting a few people worried about this.

Let's stop worrying about negative entites and discuss more interesting factors of the astral!

TRUE!

We want to hear the progress of Socrates Disciples.

Ok, its 06/06/06 here, I am going to sleep for 3 hours and then I will try to project, I hope astral dimension wont be full with negs lol.

I wonder if that will have any affect on the astral plane...
Well if it won't on earth, probably not.

i wouldent worry about the 6/6/6 cuse numbers are just an invention of humans i dont think any spirit would wate for a date that comes every 1000 years but its just a thought.NE WAY..............

I am having trouble tring to astral travel i dont no but i dont seem to be able to get to sleep while thinking of what im doind so does ne one suggest like a sleeping pill or something?
i would really apreacheat it if someone would help me out

Raistlin or Socrates - some who were out of body caused by doing a drug called DMT reported seeing gnomes, elves, fairies and other such mystical creatures. Have you encountered any of these? Are they real? If so what do they look like and what thoughts did they project to you? Also, what other kinds of beings have you encountered besides the "negatives" which you mentioned. It seems as though those in the astral plane would respect your experience and share their thoughts with you. Which type of "being" are you when you are asteral? Do you have a visible human body or are you invisible or an orb of light, etc. I have a lot of questions I'd like to ask but I'll restrain myself! Thanks a lot you psychonauts.

Hey there,

In the astral, the mythical creatures you listed and many more could very well exist. Bear in mind the astral is a huge realm, some parts of it strung together by the very dreams and fantasies of projectors. Some entities you encounter may be 'thoughtforms;' beings which you create yourself and are a figment of your imagination, so yes, in the astral mythical creatures do exist if you wish them to.

Of the creatures you listed I have encountered fairies. They were small, inquisitive and made of a bright green light. No doubt there are thousands of other variations of fairies out there.

The majority of beings I meet in the astral take the form of people, but I encounter a few animals, and rarely anything more interesting than that. This is probably because I keep my focus on meeting people and am not interested in obscure creatures.

In the astral I am my ordinary self; a visible human body, but I can choose to change my appearance if I wish to. Some people prefer to project as animals. I know people who claim to be encased in an orb of blue light when they project. The astral is a world of variation; it is different for everyone.

Hey there,

I would not recommend using sleeping pills, or any other kind of drug when attempting to project. Drugs tend to hinder your performance and ruin the authenticity of your travel.

Just remember relaxation is the key. Once you have learned to completely relax your body and mind, projecting will come very easily. If you practise relaxing every night, you will get better at it, and you will notice a big difference.

I have a question that may seem ignorant but can you feel things in the astral plane?

Erm , How are we able to differentiate between lucid dreaming and having astral projection. As most of the time while we are awake , we tends to be thinking alot about astral projection and thus this might lead us to have a dream of seeing yourself in astral projection because of the thoughts occur when we were awake. Is this possible ?

Because i had once tried to astral project. In the end i remembered seeing myself floating as well as my body and i thought to myself clearly " is this a dream ? " and also i remembered saying that i wanna go back to my body while im in this " dream " and a minutes later im fully awake! Does a dream possibly do this ? .

Ok I didnt succeed this night because of bloody 666.
First I woke up in 4:00, everything was like always, then I took my cell phone to check out the time and BAM my phone screen was black, every setting is like always(its black even now), but I got bloody black screen insted of my blue screesaver in background (sony ericsson). maybe its just a prank from ericsson programmers...or my phone is ****** up..
Ok its was just a little incident - I ignored it - I started to enter trance state.
Then after about 1-2min behind my window (first floor) two dogs started to growl so bloody vicious like from horror movies monsters do lol, of course they were just an dogs..but it was bit strange, I dont know why.
Ok I said "**** it" and went back to astral projection, it was like 1-2mins again and I heard some footsteps behind my window (I was partly in the trance) and then suddently evil laugter, it bit freaked me out because it was strange laughter..
Well, still I went back to try to project, but after all this stuff i just couldnt concentrate.
Tomorrow in 4:00 I hope no one will disturb me so I can project peacefuly.

You dont need to sleep to do astral project.
Well I am no pro, but here is what I do:

Part 1I wake up in 4:00 as socrates said, because its a good time, sunrise n stuff, everything is pretty light.
Then I jump out of my bed, do some exercises to relax my body, then I open my chakras .
Then I go back to bed, about 5min I relax with controlling my breathing and I repeat in my mind stuff like "I am going to astral travel".
Then its time for trance state, as its 4:00 o'clock and you are tired its easy to enter the trance at least light trance.

Before that 2-4min look in the dark with closed eyelid, not dark realy, I see something going on when I close my eyelids and look in the "dark", its like a energy pulsating in there, concentrate on that energy (dots who randomly apear and disapear and even make forms in your eyelids).
It helps.

part 2
Then start to enter the bloody trance, there is a lot of methonds to do so, one is imagining that you are falling in the dark, or going down by ladders or lift or something like that, main thing is to forget your boody (make sure you dont feel any "body need" which can ruin your concentration).

Ok the trance. To be in a trance does not mean to be asleep, although it can sometimes look that way, but in fact the opposite is true. Studies of the brain activity of people in trance have revealed an increased level of alertness.
Trance is a very personal experience and it should be remembered that each individual will experience trance in his or her own way, just forget about your body and concentrate on your mind.
part 3
When you are in trance then start to imagine how your body is floating up, like imagine that your soul is like 1cm up from your body and is fighting to get more up - concentrate on your third eye (see chakra exericeses) but as well you can concentrate on all your body, I just say what is easiest method for me.
There is a lot of ways how to imagine leaving you body, like rolling out of your body etc just use what you can imagine best, I use the flying up method, but dont imagine that you already are OUT of your body, just imagine that you are partly out and are trying to get out, lets not jump to the finish lol.

You will feel energy shoting around your body and giving jolts in different places, possibly you will feel pulsating in your chakras, just keep concentrating on pulling yourself out of your body, but DONT use your body, dont pull your body parts up, just pull yourself up with imagination.
When you will feel very heavy sensations all over your body and quivering until you wontl feel your body but your astral body - just keep on going and pull yourself out.

Ok I fully have tryed this method only once (because most of the time I was developing whats best for me) and in that time I pulled out my astral legs and arm, but my head and chest didnt move, because my chakaras wasnt open, I was too lazy to open them lol.

But this work pretty good, in first time I tryed this I could feel my astral body ..well..at least partly.
I have tryed many methods, like rope and imagination like socrates said, but they are not for me, its hard to imagine that stuff and it uses a lot of mental energy so I grabbed every "good" part (from my point of view) and put it together like this. I hope it will work for you.

Edit: bloody mistakes

Welcome back Socrates! Perhaps I might trouble you for an answer to the question that I posed earlier! Thanks!

As far as feeling things in the astral plane- Yes, we feel everything. it is not of a conscience mindstate, maybe not physical but all things tied in. Emotional and mental mind state, and like the matrix, your mind makes pain and feeling, emtion real.

As far as being in a tranced state, yeah i guess that works. Alot of people use static from the radio to put them into that state. It does work, I dint use it because i was forced into the astral plane when i was really young so ever since its been very natural. I cna just close my eyes and not a few seconds later be on teh astral plane if i want. But ive been doing this a Long long time.

For those of you wondering about the 6/6/6 don't worry it's nothing out of the ordinary today i checked lol. plus your safe when im crusing astral lol me and my friends make sure no negative entities are around. its my job anyway.

If ya got any questions just ask

Your pal Raist.

The strangest thing happened last night when I went to project, everything was going as normal but the flash that I normally get just wasn't there, the next thing I know I'm standing on the other side of the city and it was Icily cold, then I flashed back freezing cold even though the central heating was on. Is it normal for things from the astral to effect you in the physical?

As Raistlin already said - yes, your mind affects your body.

I'll try that tonight, and I'll tell you my results!

Hey there,

Yes, what you are suggesting is possible. But having dreams about astral projection is a good thing, because it often leads to conscious projection.

Lucid dreams feel similar to AP, but if you've experienced both you can easily tell the difference. Lucid dreams tend to be more difficult to remember and patchy, and during AP you will feel more consciously awake than when you are having a lucid dream.

Hey there,

Are you saying that once the room starts to wobble around you are unable to go any further?

This could be because you are losing your patience too quickly and ending your attempt too soon, or because you are afraid to go any further.

Once the room starts to 'wobble', remain in this state. Do not stop after 5 minutes go by because nothing has happened. Do not be afraid to take the next step. You are completely safe.

The room wobbling is a good sign. Perhaps simply imagining yourself out of your body and standing at the opposite side of the room would be a good thing to do when you experience this.

well i was looking at a site about lucid dreams and they said that u could learn how to do them and i was thinkin maby i should try and learn how to do that and then try to astral travel or should i just try and travel?

when u try and project should u hear all the sings or just some of them like reacently ive heard my name and sorta jolted but when i jolted i dont think i was thinking of anything i was just not paying attention then ban like a slap in the face and im sorta awake
by the slap in the face i mean like i just jolted awake like i landen in my bed or sum

I really dont care to do the Chakra excercises, will that have a dramatic effect on my result?

uhh OK LOL i am gogin to make this one lonng thread to answer ANY and ALL questions READ this please I will adress anything that comes to my mind that all of you have asked.

Alright *cough* let's do this.

For those Just joining us, We have been speaking about astral travel. Now if you ask "What is this astral travel?" Well good question I'll answer this. Astral projection also known as Out of Body experience, means that your Soul Leaves your physcial body through alignment of your bodies chakras. To go more deeply into this, Charkas is your body own individual energy balls almost.. (to put it simply *shrugs*) Your body is divided into Quadrants or... hmm a better way to word that would be, Sections, yeah that works. OK so your body's aura (coming to that soon) gives off a light, this light is your mood, (mood ring same thing) if someone can read these auras (a person like myself) I can sense or know exactly how you feel, hence the moodring. Your aura gives off more than just your feelings, it can tell us information about yourself, what your thinking, or have thought in a present tense. For us gifted people (sorry saucrates im generalizing but lol you know how it is LOL) for us gifted folk lol, we can read you like a book without you even knowing it. I'm geting off topic, back to astral. When you can Align your auras chakras, All your bodies energy.. like a confluence of events or imaging your body is a conducter to attract your charkas. It works, anyway once a person can align the shakras and be at peace with theirself it is quite easy to make your spirit leave (just a warning for newby's. Astral travel is HARHSE on your body's immune system and a very big energy drainer. The longer you stay out of your body for the more you'll feel weak when you get back) Once your spirit is out of your body you can go anywhere, the world is your oyster as it were. I dont stay on earth very much because i do OPM alot because it's my job and well someoen's gotta do it. or im at the akashic records reading. The astral PLane is Fairly safe yes, do bad entities arrive sometimes YES, Do not let anyone tell you otherwise because them trying to tell you it doesn't happen is ignorant. Now on a normal day lol negative entities, or baddies as i Call em' usually go about their happy go lucky life and business without talking to you. Do they Sometimes stray YES. It does happen, but don't be afraid you can ward most of them off by simply leaving the spot your in, now if you have a real sticker to you.. yeah sometimes you might need somehelp but thats why me and my friends are around for. I have a lenghyly bunch of people who do nothing but get rid of the baddies so dont worry.. either myself or them would sense it and come running. Now you can literally go anywhere with astral travel, and there are LOTS of nice, generous people out there to tell and talk you through situations and such. Now as far as techniques for astral or getting out of your body.. i posted once about this already. You can imagine the rope image or use the conducter. IM afraid im not much help here.. i was forced out of my body at 5 years of age so.. i didnt have a choice. I never really consciously sat down and tried to do this. IM sure there are people in this website that can help you with techniques.. i think for now thats enough from me LOL any questions just post em

your pal raist

That happened to me the only time I had a real AP. It was like a surge of electricity up my spine into my head that happened right before I was going to fall asleep, making my head or my whole body jolt, and then I was awake. This happened about 4 times before I relaxed myself to sleep, as I was trying to stay awake to watch a movie. Then I OBEd, so maybe the surges have something to do with it. - Socrates - Did you have to wake yourself up a few times right before falling asleep to AP, with a semi-conscious/deliberate type action or feeling, on your first few experiences? What actually happened/did you do before your first few (not to mention in the trips, but that's cool) astral projections, to maybe provoke them? I haven't succeeded in APing again...more like just falling asleep hoping to AP but then just have the "usual" dream or whatnot. But I haven't really tried all these different methods people have mentioned, but it's truly an interesting thing to learn about, especially with my personal experience of its existence and possibility. Though, it could be that the more you read about AP the more likely you are to do it as it gets embedded into your subconscious like an affirmation or something, but that doesn't explain Raistlin.
What a crazy ass fun bravura though! (word of the day on dictionary.com)
Thanks again Astralnauts!

Actually I just remembered that we are all having out of body experiences all the time! We are never in our bodies at all. We are not in our physical bodies...our physical bodies are within us! The illusion is that we stop where our skin ends but they are within our consciousness. We create and operate our physical body via subconscious, consciously, or higher. There is no method, tool, technique, book, guru or anything else that we "need" to experience this illusion because this realm is full of illusions and we only need to realize and accept who we really are. The illusion that you are your body is driven into you by those who strongly believe in the illusion, so that even though you know in all yourself you are more than your body you still doubt it. YOU CREATE YOUR OWN REALITY. YOU CREATE MY OWN REALITY. I CREATE YOURS. When one can see this we see that we are all interconnected parts of this Cosmic or Universal Consciousness which I previously called "higher". If you want to change something you can, but only if you realize that you can. How can you actually do something you don't think you can? Illusions like "One person can't change the world", "Having a baby is painful", "Every man for himself", "Humans are born evil, are weak, and are nothing compared to God and one must be 'saved' by fearing and begging" to name a few. I could go on. Nobody knows what to believe, and often times those who do believe something disagree with what others believe, but who are they to say that they are right and everyone else is wrong? Ours is not a better way, ours is merely another way would solve much. But we really all believe the same thing...we are alive and beCause of that we must breath, dring, and eat. Yet are not these beliefs also not real? It is only our bodies which must do that. Does not life never die but simply change form/evolve? Is not change growth, growth life, life change, and all of it evolving? Or should I say re-evolving...which is what everything in the universe is doing....revolving/cycling. Yet illusions are not "bad" as they serve their purpose for us to truly experience and express who we are and who we choose to be. To those who think they are not capable of out of body...be happy with what you have created for yourself. Happiness is not the result of certain conditions, certain conditions are the result of happiness, and that is also true in the Astral Realm, only there it is instantaneous. Perhaps you should meditate to see through the illusions let alone it's healing powers for the body even 10 minutes a day. Young grasshoppers...think for yourselves, do not believe everything people drum into your minds. Do not mind it either. Do not judge but observe. Oh and for the record...Satan doesn't exist but hey, you can believe whatever you want! You have the right to do so just as I have the right to ignore you and revisa versa. I'm now, time to dream.

Astralnauts - What significance do strawberries hold in the astral plane? (I'm serious and would like to know if you've had and experiences with them and what meaning you got out of them) I know of the health properties here, but I'd like to know about their existence in the realm, and your experiences with them, as I have a few legitimate reasons for my inquiry. Thanks

?????

I'm not naming any names, but some of you are coming across as false prophets.

LOL.

Don't quote me!!!

Forgive me, but it seems a select few of the posters on this thread are posting material that is nonsensical and is taking up space.

There is no illusion. In astral dimension you can create illusions only because it overlays and permeates the world like a huge mind net, catching and holding all thought. Its contents are created by the collective consciousness of the world mind. It contains all the thoughts, memories, fantasies, and dreams of every living thing in the world. Its closest dimension to ours. Thats what I learned in astral dynamics site lol.

Raistlin could explain it better.

Sanjuro summed it all up in a paragraph, while others took up a little more space...

Socrates,

You have probably answered this I do apologise for asking if you have.

I struggle at night to still my mind. I concentrate but things keep flitting in I am a very visual person if someone tells me a story I visualise it right away so I thought it would be easy to use some of the techniques described that invovled visualisation however as I said Other images and thoughts are creeping in especially the more still and relaxed I become.

In short do you have any help in this area for myself please thanks. Morph.

Sorry to those who hate to read. I wasn't "propheting" or whatever I was talking about AP and its relationship to waking life but I got a little carried away at the end, I was tired...but I think Raistlin would agree with most of it, being all pro and everything. Sorry kids!
Socrates what about the jolting we asked about before? And the strawberries? Raistlin too, have you encountered strawberries in your travels? And what significance/meaning did they have to serve?

Edit: Oh and don't be afraid to call somebody by their name and criticize them to their face with a thoughtful response when you disagree with them instead of dastrardly referring to them as "others" to others.