Morph, I don't have socrates' expertise but I would maybe suggest meditation?

i was really close last night i kept feeling wierd and all that but i got woken up by a noise and decited to sleep this was at likt 11-12 i think i dident feel like waten and i was tired when doin it ne way

Thats the Point I find it really hard to still my mind enough I will seek out meditation techniques and give it a bash.

thanks Morph

Just when you wake up in the night go and wash your face with cold water after that just do breathing exercises, like start to breath slowly and listen the sound of breathing, they look in your eyelids with closed eyes, look at the little dots there lol and feel how they are pulsating there.
You will have problems with ya mind and concentration if you wont wake up in the middle of night when your brain is partly in trance state. Trying to projecting before sleep is very hard (at least for me), visions in mind just keep coming.

Anyway I am going to try to project after 4-5 hours from now.
I will wake up, jump out of the bed, open my chakras (its pretty annoying in the middle of night to do that stuff lol) then relax my body, then I will still my mind, put it in the trance and then I will pull my bloody astral body out of my physical body.
I hope for success.

Best of luck to everyone.. i might not post this weekend/week that much. I'll be at the akashic records before my field test, and my field test is a few wormhole jumps and a few galaxies away so. ill be busy.. if i ppost i do good luck people.

I'll be at the akashic records before my field test, and my field test is a few wormhole jumps and a few galaxies away so.

I love how they say that all non-chalant and all like its no big deal. trippy

Edit: Tell me about the strawberries?!? I'm serious. And it would be cool if you guys put up a few posts all about your "favorite" projections, but whatever

Morph :
"Perhaps it’s best to forget about techniques and first train yourself to be in a relaxed state of awareness, which is even more important than physical relaxation. This relaxed state of awareness is an awareness that is simply open to experience and doesn’t continually asks itself whether it’s “there” yet. You simply can’t bully yourself into another state. Rather, cultivate a certain sense of mellowness towards the whole phasing approach. So don’t get too caught up in any “method” or “technique”. Rather, if anything describes a successful progression through various altered states of consciousness, is that consciousness becomes increasing flexible and receptive to alternate forms of reality organization. I suppose this state of awareness, and indeed it is a state, is best described as mellow and gentle. This is not a mindless or selfless state, but a state of mind in which feel comfortable and relaxed without putting pressure on yourself to perform or fixate yourself. If you find yourself having difficulty this is because of not distinguishing between telling yourself to relax (which can go on ad infinitum) and being it. That is not some esoteric idea, but quite a practical and literal one. So just relax and you will find all things flow from there.

Stop asking about the strawberries man. take it seriously. and yes i say it non-chlantly.. because its true.

i know it sounds funny but I really want to know if you guys have ever encountered strawberries...and I have a few reasons I want to know this, but if you haven't just say no and I'll stop asking.
Raislin - So is it possible that the first few times you AP you're being tested? And who is testing you? What kind of job do you do, besides expelling the negative spirits? Is it possible to go to the akashic records in your first few projections? Do you just think about it and then you are there?

Raistlin and Psychonaut - I created this thread for people to exchange ideas, answer eachother's questions, and learn more about astral projection. Lately you two have been an annoyance.

Raistlin - We don't want to hear about how amazingly gifted and talented you are. We want you to use your 'gift' to help others.

Psychonaut - Please only post if you have something worth reading. I'm sure there are respectable sources elsewhere which can tell you about astral strawberries.

Thanks.

Hey, it gets us excited about doing astral travel when we hear about his success. But your thread, your rules I suppose...
Just everyone, please stop the personal attacks so us noobs can learn how to do this.

For me, I'm still having trouble with one thing. My desire overpowers my concentration. I want to do it so badly that I can't concentrate and take the appropriate amount of time required to perform astral projection.
Are there any easier ways to project?

And Socrates, your method requires nothing but imagining yourself out of your body and when you fall "asleep" you are on the astral plane?
I'm a bit confused at the moment

ok dad i'll tone it down lol i really didnt think i stepped outaa line soc. and don't blast me man. ive been helping people my whole life. and im trying to help now. I always asnwer questions when asked, althouh I don't quite know why the Ice is in your voice lose it please. I don't really appreicate it man. I'm trying to help here not make problems I solve those.
Thanks.
got questions just ask lol it's that easy

he probly wants to know of strawberrys, becouse somthing happend with him and strawberrys, obviously. I havnt gotten back into astral projection, but if you can feel what these states of mind feel like, then you can learn to will the feeling back. relaxation is key. also, learning to fall into deeper states of conciousness, while meditating first, will help. obviously, you shouldnt shut out your 5 senses, as of now, im only concentrating on the feeling of my skin. If you ever get the feeling while meditating, of "falling" in that sleep state, or some have experianced it as a presence behind them, this is a deeper state of conciousness. trust me though, ty meditating with the senses, then without them, just pick one, and focuse on it, now imagin doing it with focuse on all five. anyways, the deeper you can go in conciousness, or the more you can let your own conciousness expand, the easyer id suppose it would be to astral project, ill get back into this soon and post more usefull info. good luck everyone. oh yes, stop posting any kind of oppositional words, as everyone has a reason for saying somthing, and you should consider everything. love light and peace.

Sorry for asking q's and trying to be helpful then Socs

EVERYONE
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/index.php

you'll learn just about everything you ever wanted to about OBEs there!

I enjoy reading this thread and thought I would pop my head in for a moment
I come from a different field (clairvoyant) but I'm very familar with the techniques and knowledge expressed here about how the astral plane works and how to get around it during AP.

I would just like to say to Rambo111 that what you say here:



Is answered more or less in what sandune says here:-




The desire and will to want can become a huge block. While it can be a useful state in its own right for engaging motivation and physical energy for action, it is not a useful state for meditiation/AP etc, it can almost become a headache! Forget the AP for now go back to basics and practise basic meditation, learn to feel the difference and harness that. If you can start to practise this with no expectations or specific reason it will be easier, then when you get the hang of it try then to AP

Ok Ok Raistlin and Psychonaut I'm sorry.

Continue as you were.

Hey there everyone. I found this forum thread on google (shot in the dark, huh?) while searching about astral projection, etc. And I have never previously used this website.

After reading some really freaky stuff all over the web, in the last week I've drastically changed at least my opinion (not necessarily beliefs) concerning religion and the mere concept of God and spiritualism.

I'm very very sorry that I can't explain a huge amount of what I have to say about astral projection, and I'm sorry if what I'm saying is off-topic of whatever page this lands on.

I read the first 5 pages of this thread, then skipped to end to realize how long it was. Good to see you're all interested.



It's about 2am here, and before I go to bed to try to astral project (I don't believe I ever have), I'm going to post one thing:



The name Edgar Cayce. Google it, now.
Recenlty I read a ton of soul/spirit-ish stuff, astral projection, etc., much of which originated from this man.


bio-Edgar Cayce was perhaps the greatest modern psychic that is scientifically documented.

He died in the 1930's i think, but don't think his information isnt credible. As a piece of solid evidence of his abilities, it is documented that he predicted the beginning and ending date of ww1 and ww2, before ww1 had even begun, and made several thousand other predictions/info-givings about topics including astral projection.


If you search for example "edgar cayce astral projection" on google, you should find tons of reliable info.


thanks to all of you for taking such a keen interest in astral projection.
and thanks for taking the time to help others with it too.
plz pray for me as I try to experience it myself.


i'm going to colorado this week to an awesome youth camp, but i bookmarked this forum page so hopefully I'll remember to rejoin you in about 10 days and talk about tons of cool stuff. I'll be trying out astral proj. while I'm there,too....maybe the cool mountain air will help my body relax.


'nite all.

yup, saw a history channel show about cayce, I think most of us know who he is, but thanks. where in CO?

You were very correct to research Edgar. His studies and books is where i started to believe in this, and ultimately Do astral projection, His theories albeit supernatural are very credible and Nothing but truth. I have most of the books on supernatural entities, abilities etc.. and yet i still didn't quite completely understand anything until i actually did the research on cayce and others who would follow in his line of work. He was one of the first to "openly" speak on the astral plane also the akashic records in a "to whom it may concern" chapter in his books. His work bridged in the early years from the 20's to late 30's only being surfaced in late 30's when kayce started having dreams he named "supernatural" in nature. Being too fluent and something like an afrodesiac for the mind's higher senses, he started to jot down these dreams and later went through many consultations with people in his office (to people whom came to him later about certain aspects of astral projection) to which he started telling people about. However, his work would never truly be finished because he passed away, but other followed in his footsteps to give us those self same notes and vision he clearly left us about The astral plane and of the existence to god's akashic records.

How do I get to these akashic records when I am projected? ( I hope to project this night )

I have two questions about astral projection, for those of you who have already been able to do it:

1)I have only recently(in the last week) begun to actually try this, with little success other than a few times getting a 'tingling' sensation all over my body. One thing I notice when I tried to astral project while laying still on my bed is that my mind tends to wander; it becomes distracted from my goal by negative thoughts/anxieties about astral projection, or I keep picturing myself misusing astral projection or some other fear of it.

Q1: Is a clear conscience necessary to astral project? and what have you guys practiced to focus on it and achieve it easily/persisntently?


2)Many people I have read about, such as Edgar Cayce, have obtained knowledge while in astral projection or some other form of being "in the Spirit" so to speak. Have you guys ever obtained knowledge that you didn't know previously, such as the answer to a question or information about a person or anything of that nature?

Along that line, many people claim to explore/fly around cities and such while APing. Do you actually see the city as it is, even if you have never been there before? Also, do you see others in either physical form or astral form, and have they ever reacted to seeing you before?


Anyone who is experienced at APing or has ever done it just a few times, please give your opinion/answer to these. thx

Well I think I am going to try and get Into the astral for my first time tonight.

Hey Will Yeh i think i will too! it sounds really fun and can i say it is an amzing thing to talk about, one thing i am worried about is the scary parts of it and will my body be harmed in any way shape or form.

Dont worry it wont be harmed, but mark my words, astral projection can be done only when you realy REALY want it and are not scared of it.
I am in the stage where it is my primary goal atm, so there is no fear which can interrupt astral travel.

I'll put it this way. Don't attempt it if you truly dont understand whats already in life. Like, if your mind wont accept what's "possible" "Impossible" your really in for a shock people.. your mind can have trouble letting go of the Stable and somewhat fragile Physical plane we live on. When you enter the metaphysical Literally anything is possible.. and frankly folks that can be scary to a new mind that's not ready for it.

well put raistlin...I agree

I will try this tonite as well. I probably won't have any success since I haven't really stuck with it and tried every nite, but I can hope...

BTW, I like tacos

OMG!! it worked and i was totally freaked out.. i was with my m8 and we both did it and he felt tingles in his chest and as if he was floating out and i heard my name being called and my arm rising... i will definately be trying this again because if its true you can see the deceased then that will be my motivation..

...Also is it possible to meet other whilst doing it because it will be emense if you can..

Its not a dream, its a public dimension. Like a matrix lol.

I used an mp3 file on my ipod that had alledgedly assists to produce beta and theta waves. I think it may have helped as I definately forgot completely about my body and focussed on the metaphysical. I felt all the sensations and even at times felt lift from my body although I did not break free. I also heard my name being called this is the firt time I have heard that. The first couple of times I heard like a shout but not my name..

Anyway I stopped after about 20-30 mins and I as literraly dripping with sweat not sure if that was to do with what as going on or the weather (which is quite hot at the moment) or both.

Anyway thought I would let you guys know of my limited success

Morph.

I just tried to astral a few minutes ago the left side of my head got very tingly.

I had a few questions for SOCRATES that went unanswered, i am still really anxious to hear what answers that you may have. So SOCRATES please, please, please, go to page 20 at the bottom of the page. I havnt been experiencing the *lockdown* since the vibrating and im kind of disappointed but at the same time im to scared to attempt astral travel. Everybody is claiming that they have done it but i have not read any detailed accounts of the travel...which is what is scaring me to try. SOCRATES since you have been doing it for years could you PLEASE give us a detailed account of one experience please? And Raistlin the akashic records, can you give us an example? If you cant tell i am a skeptic and you can just be writing what youve read.
I am not tryin to offend either of you...but we are all responsible for ourselves and if we go down the wrong spiritual path we will be condemned to life in the lake of fire. And if you lead others down the wrong path i feel sorry for your soul.


~*Peace*~

well i tryed it last night and thought i felt myself starting to lift....but then felt a jolt and sat up. pretty much what was said to often happen to first timers

Well I am no socrates, but do you mean this:


If that so, maybe you should talk with your doctor, because I dont know how socrates who is 15 would know anything about woman body lol.

If you are sure that it isnt your fault then maybe its a attack from spirit or smth.
Here is some info about sexual attacks.

Well. It's strickly possible to be physically Hurt from the metaphysical plane. however this may be many things. and socrates is 15, you might wanna ask me lol i might have a little more experience (no offense socrates I simply mean ive been at this longer is all) I've really enjoyed your post's and can tell your a very smart individual But yeah if anyone actually wants stories.. ugh ask me i have way way too many so LOL.

can u tell us some stories cuse i want a picture of the world.....
and i also would like 2 no if ne 1 suggests i try to learn how to lucid dream cuse ive been practcing and i can now rember my dreams more i had at leats 1 a night for 4 days in a row first time in my life 4 like 3 years ne way i think once i learn how 2 lucid dream i can astral travel because each time i try to travel i become really awake like 1 hr into it like i am almost asleep and then i just wake its prob me getting joldet back but wutever and yes it takes me long to get to sleep

only "really" done it once...about 2 weeks ago

It happened less than 2 weeks ago

I did NOT have the intention to astral project before I slept. Before I did though, I jerked my body and my head to stay awake like a surge of electricity jolted up my back or something...until I finally decided to just close my eyes and fall asleep

I initially thought I had awaken from sleep and I got up off the couch, but as I got up I really floated up slightly to the left behind where my head would've been. Lying on the couch were a still, 2 colorful pairs of what I perceived to be my parents. I realized that I had to be dreaming, so I tried to do what I normally do when aware of dreaming...have as much fun as possible!

While I was floating I remembered astral projection, and thought that I was already doing it, from what little I had read about it. I moved through my wall with the front door, but for some reason when I got outside my house, I went back inside. I then decided to go out the back door, which is straight across from the front door. While I floated to the back door I did 3 360 spins, and after arriving to it I went through the crack in the door.

I then decided to fly, which I've done in other dreams, but I couldn't this time...I could only spring up about 20-30 feet before coming back down. When I did this the first time, I dropped to the ground doing weird flips and twists. I landed in someones back yard with an unpainted wooden fence (many fitting the description around here).

I wanted to go somewhere else so I floated/jumped again up to someones 2 story window and saw a little girl (5ish) and her mom, I got the feeling she was about to go to bed and I didn't want to scare them so I quickly floated back down. Weird. I thought they were real.

Then I remembered reading in a book about God by Walsch that said wherever you think of, you will instantly go there. Well, that didn't work for me, either because I wasn't thinking hard enough, I hadn't mastered AP yet as it was my first time, or I wasn't astral projecting.

I then felt as Kevin Bacon did in "Hollow Man", because I had no physical body. I got what felt like an erection and I wanted to have some "dream" sex. Maybe because in the movie he raped, but for some reason I was instantly transported to a "crime scene feeling" place with police/detectives or whoever and one "middle aged woman" who really wasn't all that good looking, but she looked straight at me and immediately felt my "presence", which I thought was strange as I was invisible. She told the detectives or (FBI whoever) that something or someone was here, which I thought was even more strange, like she was some kind of psychic detective working with the FBI.
I then hugged her for some reason, with transparent arms that I thought only I could see...but she felt either excited, scared, or both.
I then thought that maybe these people had real lives and feelings, and thoughts of their own, and I felt bad for the woman. My last thought in the astral plane was "Am I a ghost?".

Regardless, the whole time I was OBE my feelings and expression would be something like but I wasn't afraid, just really excited, but calm at the same time.

After the OBE

I woke up fully awake and amazed at what happened, with full memory of everything that happened. I went down into my room and turned on the radio expecting to hear a message (I believe God communicates with everyone, all the time...it's just a question of do you want to), and I heard a song I'd heard before, but I never paid much attention to the lyrics. I found out the next day it was System of A Down - Question! Here are the lyrics...


Sweet berries ready for two, ghosts no different then you.
Ghosts are now waiting for you all.
Are you...

Dreaming! Dreaming the night! Dreaming all right!

Do we! Do we know, when we FLY?
Where do, where do we go when we DIE?


Those are all the lyrics in the song!


I started a dream journal after that, even though it wasn't one of the coolest "dreams" I've had it was one of the most memorable and unique.

so now lets hear one of yours, Raistlin

one time,i had a dream where i was spiderman,best dream i haver ever had....anyhoo,what does the astral plane look like?

Ask and Ye shall recieve

I'll tell you guys a nice one. And oh to Clarify something Yes once your out of your body you can fly, hell I do it every night. I would hate to walk everywhere man.. seriously lol
I havent walked anywhere in years while i was doing astral.. because really.. how would i leave the planet walking LOLOL. Anyway here's a story for ya.

One time i was kinda bored and i got a telepathic call from pretty far away, it was somewhat distorted and i couldn't really tell who was calling until the signal got closer to me, or I got closer to the Source LOL, and so that's just what i did.. but since it wasn't exactly clear where it was coming from I had to turn on my radar sense and use that to track down the persons call by their aura and presence. So a split second later, i was out of my body and a few seconds later i was on the astral plane.. it seemed the call was coming from japan.. so I went down there, a split second later i was in japan and realised.. I might have mis-understood the call lol. I was kinda kicking myself because it was for a contest.. See you guys have to understand, when your in the astral plane, You can be hurt, you can be heard, spoken to, understood and seen. everything is as the same as physical reality, the Only difference is.. we All can do supernatural things if our mind is untainted and you ALLOW yourself to break the borders of a physical reality you were taught existed from birth. Such as gravity, yeah we all know it exists, but in the astral plane.. you can break that "Impossibility" into a very possible task. Only if your mind allows it. Most of you might have a little trouble understanding this because we all have been taught from our parents, friends, professors and teachers since our days as chidren, but the thing is.. Why should you in all Honesty Listen to some professor in a white Lab coat Telling you What's Possible when he could Never Come close to comprehending the Power of the mind and the Possible things that happen in this galaxy everyday, trust me Ive spent.. well if i said how long ive spent out in the astral plane in Astral Time, compared to earth time it would freak you out so I won't but i will tell you ive been doing this for a Very Very long time. So everytime i hear someone say That's impossible I know it's ignorance because in A split second.. I could backtrack that one person's entire Life span, roots through their entire family and tell you the roots, origins and anything else about them and why their ignorance is such. ANyway off topic. So im in japan and every now and then they hold these contests.. and one of my friends sent me the message that supposedly they hold these sometimes and if your strong enough they just have like ugh.... hmm how can i say this lightly LOL OH I got it. You guys remember american Gladiators! yeha stuff like that anyway, I pretty much just left from there and I think it was thatday or a day close to it I started getting bored of earth actually lol. So i started doing OPM. And trust me this glaxy is nothing compared to it's neighbouring brother and sister glaaxies. If any of you ever accomplish jumping wormholes as i have let me know, there is a Sea Of astral information enough so to make you never wanna come home. Because at one point I didn't.

Its sounds like a realy scary stuff, I think to travel in cosmos is needed much of experience and skills in AP.
I once red that one guy who was doing AP for a quite long time had trobles in getting to the moon, because its just a freaky feeling when you leave the earth and travel in a dark space.

Is there an easy way to know whether you are APing or just dreaming. How can I be sure?

i wana go 2 a different galxiey and find aliens i dont no if i really want to or am 2 high to think but whatever

yeah easily. Your asleep in a dream LOL

i have a question,does it look any differently on the astral plane?or is it the same?

Hey peeps... I have a little something to say in which will end with a question lol..

Okay, a few years ago when I moved into a new house, I started to experience sleep paralysis. Obviously during this I cannot move. But things happen during this such as, a rumbling sound or humming, the sound of people talking (cannot be understood), and sometimes footsteps. The experiences usually frighten me for at the time, I had never heard of obe's and all that. Then came the feeling as if I was starting to sink into my bed. At that point I grow very scared and try to pull myself out of it. The problem is, I have trouble coming out of it.

It usually takes alot out of me to end the process. But eventually it happens. However while living in that house (no longer living there) I also saw what I believe to be the spirit of a child. The child looks like someone from an older period of time.. He wears these old brownish overalls... has a bowl hair cut... red hair.. freckles.. and is always smiling. I saw him about two to three times during my time in that house. All except one happened during the sleep paralysis thing. I remember him standing at the foot of my bed smiling. I kinda stared at him almost oblivious as to how out of the normal this was.

But, I remember gaining the strength to look over to the right and seeing the light underneath the crack of the door go completely black. Then what seemed to be black mist, slowly crept into my room. It never got close to me but always appeared when the boy did. The child payed no attention to it but only stared at me the entire time.

Another time, when I was in the paralysis, the rumbling sound started and very faintly I heard a voice tell me to "heal my mind". At the time, my parents were going through a divorce and it was putting alot of stress and pressure on me. I was literally a wreck. I was not going to school.. I was staying up all night, I started to lose all care for the people around me. It was a rough time. During this time the paralysis was stronger and more frequent than ever. It finally go to the point where I stopped sleeping all together. I went 3 days with no sleep. I turned into a cruel and nasty person. Finally, on the morning of the fourth day, I left my house and walked over to my grandma's. For what reason I don't know... But my mom ended up finding me and she tried to talk to me. I don't remember what happened after that, but my mom and grandma told me I broke down and just cried non stop. My mom took me home and she said I passed out in my bed and slept for hours.

After that I was fine. The paralysis experiences decreased to about once a month. Later during the divorce, my sisters and my mom were forced out of the house and lived with my grandma. The paralysis stuff started to happen again. No little boy or anything, but I did hear two people talking and walking around me. Only I couldn't see them for I was stuck facing a wall. But that was the last time I had one of those experiences. I am now in my new home and haven't had one yet.

Recently I discover the whole OBE and Astral stuff...I was wondering, was the experience I was going through part of the whole OBE thing? I mean I was seeing and hearing things that weren't supposed to be there. Now I kinda wish I could have these things again so I can just go with it and stuff.. But what I don't get it why it happened during my "dark" times. I thought you need to be relaxed to have an OBE.

And another thing that confused me is that when I went to visit my dad (he was living in the old house where I saw the kid) on Christmas, my sister and I both saw the child exit my mom's old room and quickly look at us. He disappeared into the dark misty thing that I spoke of earlier. Now, we were wide awake in the physical world.. and yet we saw him. It wasn't as clear as it was during the paralysis.. but I could still make out who it was. And my sister even saw it! I really don't understand all this. Does my experiences have anything to do with the whole OBE Astral Travel thing?

Wow , thats a realy interesting story, Enuf3. I dont think that SP is connected to AP though, but I am no pro at this.
But there is a lot of storys about SP (sleep paralyisis) starting from demon attacks and ending with alien stuff.

Hello everyone, this is my first post in this thread, all though I've been following it for a while.



Can you please share with us any of your experiences regarding the Akashic Records? Can you look in it the era of King Solomon, Jesus, Prophet Muhammad? A specific question that I'd like to ask is that Edward Cayce said that Jesus's second coming will happen in 1998, do you have anything to say about that?

Thanks.

Ok Raistlin,

Please Please Please don't take this the wrong way because I am a firm believer in other planes of existance and also feel I have had limited succes in AP.

Now my challenge if you want to call it that is to take up your offer of exposing my life if you want quite openly on this Forum I don't have any qualms about that.

Hopefully it will show people that AP does exist and people can manage it even if I can't master it as of yet.

If you need any details to get you started then please let me know if not fire away my good chap ..

This isn't to cure my scepticism because tbh I am no sceptic however there probably are a few who are.

I look forward to your reply Morph..