"mainly due to obsessive projecting - not projecting in moderation
and also attempting to use astral projection for evil purposes".

I disagree with everything that you say above. I am floored that you made such a statement.
We can sometimes have negative experiences when we are on the earth plane, because there are negative entities on the earth plane.. they are just there. You have nothing to do with them bothering you, just as you have nothing to do with spirits who want to contact you while you are out of your body.

I went to a parapsychologists because I was having some bad experiences. He told me that I needed to get off the earth plane. The best thing that I ever did was to go to a parapsychologist. He explained a great deal to me.

I will agree to disagree with you on the matter that some of us have broken astral cords. BTW, you mentioned that you did not see yours at times. I have also FELT for mine and it is not there.

hi madison, what is a parapsychologist? thanks

A parapsychologist is a psychologist who specializes in the supernatural. The one I went to explained everything to me. He told me why I was having problems. It was such a relief to talk to him.

oh that is cool, i want to meet one too and study it at uni..

You people are funny.....
A parapsychologist is one that takes your money because you believe in something that doesn't exist. I'm sure he told you what was wrong....

It is true many parapsychologists are frauds, but there are some out there who may take an authentic and professional approach to what they do.

Madison is the first person I have encountered who has put emphasis on the danger of astral travel to such an extent.

Regarding the validity of what she has said I feel I must accordingly give warning in contradiction to what I said during the first stages of this thread.

- Bad experiences do happen to people during astral travel. I have not encountered many - but they do occur, so, as Madison implied, it is necessary to acknowledge that there is a danger that comes with astral travelling - when you astral travel you are taking a risk. ('Bad' meaning frightening and/or spiritually or psychologically harmful. I do not believe in death caused by astral travel, but in regard to astral travel's elusive nature in that many aspects of it have not been explained, death cannot be ruled out as a possibility.)

Can someone give any tips to a non-religious first timer who has never experienced anything supernatural in his life?

I still don't get how to do this(didnt read whole thread).

Did you read the first post of the thread? My technique? That should be enough. If you're still lost PM me.

Well the first time i read about it i felt the vabration thing in the first time,i wasn't scared but i kept swallowing my spit and couldn't leave the body....after that i tried the next night and it din't succedd and now i feel terible,couse i lost all my will and my fate so i don't know what to do..in my Gym there is a guy that did this kind of stuff for 2 years and learned about it.he told me it can be dangerous and i belive him,couse there is the astral realm and the souls realm it's like mix or whatever,any way he told me that the spirits can never see you but as soon as you project for one time you appear to them than they can hurt you and it's only one of their options.couse there are good and bad astral travalers you forgot to mention it.if you could talk on the astral plane i bet you could act and do stuff as well especially to other travelers...any way he said and i read that when the chakras are open it is good when you recharge them but if you leave them open travalers are able to hurt your physical body and make you sick....

im not afraid to astral travel i just can't do it even tho i want so bad.couse then i would be able to be near the people i love and that i can't see at all becouse diffrent locations in the world.

p.s. i will try your thechnik and i must say this is the most realistik method i ever saw...getting from a sleep in 4 oclock in the morning and i bet you assuming people go to sleep in like 1-2 am and that's why they waking up dizzy it makes alot of sense......last question?? i mean first lol if i hear a relaxetion music of yoga and feng shui and all of that kind of music will it interfere or opoositly will help for me to project,couse i heard that you need to be in total quiteness but does this kind of music counts as distraction???

man WTF now im changing my mind after all those it's 100% safe posts you changed my mind...only you and one person in my gym warned me and even was angry when i was anxies to project.....by the way when you refering to earth plane what do you mean??is it our planet if so no wander so many bad people out there,and if not the earth plane which plane did you go too???one BIG mistake by my opinion is that people saying what they see in their astral plane expirience,and this person told me we not allowed to do so and of course not to incurage newbs like me to do it the first time,couse if im not mentally ready getting mentally attacked or getting harmed by anyway or even lossing the option to return to my body should be one of my concerns....but i don't remember if he was the one who told me about the guard that protects you....any way look on my post before that one you will see i mentioned the astral and the spirit realms you can be in both as i understood and this is one of the reasons you could be hurt...and is it true there are like levels and since the badest of all are below it's where you start at the spirit realm that's why you can get hurt...anyway so much i read and so little truth i know,and after YOUR post im changing my mind again and again not knowing what to expect i hope i will do it by my self...one thing is certain

PEOPLE SHOULDN'T SAY that astral projection is fun and funner with pairs couse nothing excist only for fun there us a porpes for this....and you can't just go and have fun even in real life so there must be a catch.im only interested in this couse maybe it will make me relax and i will maybe find the answer why my grandpas mom din't answer him when he din't a siance and summoned her couse she died when he was 18,his father answered him but not his mather and of course the fact i be able to see my grandpa in the US while i leave in israel....

P.S=if im right in israel only the once who studdy all this religies things get to know this astral travel thing i mean all this knwolege liek the KABALA which i don't know what it means only that it some kind of ritual and in the us or any other christian religien all the people can learn it....i think the jewish people got it the best way and im not being a racist against all of you guys but it all makes sense....the rabayas are like the highest spiritual evolved people since they got a very strong belive and open mind are the once who learn all of that,im sure they not focusing on astral projection but they do learn about spirits and such....in the USA i keep seeying comercialls offering people to project them selfs and i do know one thing...if you not ready you can be harmed spiritually and mentally of course and nothing you gonna say gonna change the very true possibilty of this happaning!!!

wait Socrates you 15 years old OMG that explains it...the older you the hardest it is....my last OBE was 2 years ago and bakc then i din't know it was OBe i felt like i fall from the bed i woke up with fear but i was laying regulary my friends had the same thing all of us had it and din't know what it was...i read that it happanes usually to children and teenagers couse they live especially the small once like in some sort of fantasy world im 19 not so grown up my self but i din't have OBE for 2 years if i knew what it was then i would project ......by the way i think i do projected once couse even tho i do feel in my dreams hear diffrent kind of things and by the way my dreams are always a simulation almost evey night!!!simulation that's why my psychologic teacher in school called it...when i dream i don't controll the saroundings which mean i can't change senerios and my mind isn't aware of the fact i dreaming BUT,i always know what's right and what's now ,i din't talk with my friend four like 5 months and in my dream we walked in a road near each other suddenly he started speaking with me ,i asked him what are you doing we don't talk to each other,he answers:don't you remember today we made peace ,and the next few moments i kept traying to remeber when it happaned but as hard as i tried i din't remembered it...of course the ending of the dream ruined everything i saw 2 friends of mine which were the first time of my life in my dream,they were near a gate i told them sec i will go to the bathroom when i went to the bathroom and wanted to open the door (this night i passed the game deus-ex) this 2 green lines showed up which means i can't open it with anything that was funny after i woke up,and it was the moment i woke up...about my dream that i referd erlier i was 5-6 years old then....i had 2 dreams one of them was real and maybe i did astral travel...i went to my window and i lived on the fourth floor...i looked down below it was an apartment building then i jumped from the window,i saw everything goew so fast and i fell on bushes which were like 4 feet long maybe little more.when i standed i felt this pain in the legs which you probebly know when you jumo from a high place not landing correctly like some electric feeling.any way i went back to my apartment and went trough the door....it all seemed REAL and im sure 100% it was real...so Is it possible i actually ASTRAL TRAVELED couse i never felt something so real in a dream and until i read this topic today i kept saying to my mom that it really happaned and i really jumped,she says it's not possible but i told her the pain i felt and the realness i felt saw i even felt the wind and now when ithink of it there was a sound of me falling dawn below....any way it was wierd as hell and the funny thing is that i won't woke up and usually when i fall from hights i wake up streight away!!!

Yes, statistically younger people are most prone to astral travel, but you should not account this for your lack of success.

Also - I would again like to put emphasis on the possibility of bad experiences while astral travelling. My assurance during the early stages of the thread was due to a statistical rarity of bad experiences, but I feel it ethical that I alert projectors of the danger simply because the possibility is present.

Explain a "bad" experience. What happened? Did you see soemthing scary?

When I say bad experience I typically mean a frightening experience - perhaps due to negative entities. Personally I have never had one.

i think i had been through one before when i was asleep but im not sure. Can you astral project only if you try or could it be on accident. And can you astral project if your not asleep? Also do these astral projects seem more real than a dream just like real life almost? because i had something like that real scary and felt so real then i was awaken.I was sweating and my heartbeat was beating real fast. I couldnt get back to sleep that night. i love the post

Yes, you can astral project involuntarily. You can also project while awake but you need to be in a very relaxed state. An astral projection is usually a fully conscious experience.

Hey man the first time i tried that i almost succedded,my heart rate was like i don't know 240 bits per minute lol and my boddy started to shacke....it all went well until the next night i read about negetivities that can prevent you from travel...im taking pills for 2 years it's crap!!! never helped and never will im the ONLY one who controle my simptoms...you know what's apilepsia well i have something similar but its called holpus or whatever i know that i was able to controll it after 6 months from falling couse i know how to stop it....but after i read its not recommended i tried to travel and yestorday as well BTW,i din't succedd only my heard bit rate was fast but no vibrations.today in the morning and all day which is not normal i had small vabritaions any way i feel bad.....if i new OBE was the way to project i would try 4 years ago when i was 14-15 i would have much more success....

p.s.=when i mean bad things could happan in projections times i don't mean bad experience couse that kind of thing depends on your emoutions....bad thing are the once you sepused to be protected against by your spiritual guide..like other spirits or even worse....BAD astral travelers just like you who can not only talk to you but do much more than that and don't tell me it's bull...there are some "things" that won't allow you to past certain points while astral traveling but it doesn't mean that you won't get hurt if they won't have anyother option

sorry, I was talking to you last night socrates, but I'll just put this here to get more input:

I think I've had an unintentional astral travel/projection moment...

Sorry about my first post being a question, but:

About week or two ago during 2am, I was dreaming and I saw a black and white forest spiraling. Then I heard my voice ask me if I wanted to travel to the 'Astral Realm'. I've only heard about this term during a special on TV about philosophy about three days prior and it somehow made its way into my dream. Then I felt like my body was being lifted out slowly and I kept thinking about how I wanted to return to my body and I wasn't ready to go there yet.

I woke up immediately and layed in the bed in sleep paralysis for three minutes. Thoughts were rushing into my head as I panicked for the entire night. I researched about this and came to this forum. Of course, I have questions..

1. Did I almost Astral Travel/Project without wanting to?
2. How can I astral travel again? I don't know how since this was all unintentional.

Thanks!

Ahh yes... If you want to know how to astral travel again, read the first post of this thread.

i really gota start practicing again. i heard that trying while being lucid is easier so im am in the middle of trying that. i have made myself lucid 4 times since i started so im hoping it will aid in me projecting. i want to go and explore space and different galaxies.

Can you communicate to animals? Like can you talk telepathically to your cat? My wife's horse has a reoccuring health problem in which the Vets cannot explain. Is it possible to astral project and communicate to the horse and ask him where he has pain, when it occurs and how often?

Doubt it, can you speak horse?

Yes, many people find it much easier to project through lucid dreaming. Lucid dreaming is also alot of fun!



You may not be able to communicate with the horse as such, but you could be able to 'see' where the pain is while in the astral state?

yes i did...it's just its kind of hard for me to do that particular excersise.

ive been reading sections of this on OBE, i remember trying to astral project once, but i just fell alseep straight away. My weirdest experience yet: I was in my bed and i fell asleep, then all of a sudden the next thing i know i was in a dream, but i KNEW i was in my dream, since i said to my "omg, cool this is a dream" and thought about all the thingsi could do, i tried to move an object with my mind, but failed badly lol, next thingi knew i was running and then i was sucked back to reality (or so i thought i was back in reality) the side of my head(the side i was lying on, i sleep on my side) went all numb and warm and tingly then my head started to SINK into the bed, my ehad started to sink, i didnt know how it happened, i got a shock then raised my head and ignored what happeed, with my mind focusing in on controlling my dream again, and again, my head sank in, i was too scared to let it sink fully for some reason. I dont know if it really happened or what happened, it was such a wierd experience.

Please anyone!! thoughts and possibilities on what might of happened?

You experienced an involuntary astral projection, induced by a lucid dream. Your astral body slipped out of your physical and began sinking into the bed. For most people it's a floating sensation, but a sinking sensation is not uncommon.

Can you use different kinesises while in the astrial relm?

i cant answer that question. maby Socrates can.

Socrates i would like to know where you if you have traveled into space and if so where have traveled if you want to tell me

I don't see why not, seeing as mere thoughts in the astral turn to actions.

Ive been trying for a while to do this and i havnt gotten anywhere..
i dont think i have the dedication.. ive been on this website for about a year now and ive been trying to ap for a year on and off.. i just get scared and give up.. When im trying to ap i hear like voices.. but its not like im thinking them im actually hearing them.. is that something to do with astral plane or do i need to go for some mental health tests? xP

Yeah it's normal you may hear your name being called out or vioces from friends and family members or just a group of people you don't know.

My question to Socrates how do I get completely out of my body yesterday afternoon I tried to astrally project I was about 95-98% successful I had most of my body secured from my feet up to my waist line to keep me still when I meditatie and do the relaxation exercises my legs and everything twitch I woke up into sleep paralysis and and the vibestate I remained calm and my astral body started to split my physical I felt as if my legs were floating I felt this floating sensation but it stopped at my head for some reason my head didn't detach but that floating sensation freaked my out after awhile then I was joilted back in because I expected the split to complete but it didn't, I'll try again tonight.

What are other exit techniques? I read off of the salfcube.com webste that when in full sleep paralysis that I can start to project there by remaining calm and opening my mouth and I'll start to split it worked but not 100% what do I do now I've been trying this for 7 months now, I refuse to give up and I'm extreamly close to having my very first consious OBE.

But sometimes I awake from my sleep in the astral and get reeled back into my body with in a few seconds.

I really want this I want to prove to my family that I can get out of my body once I master this I'll get them to post notes or 6 or 7 digit numbers on their walls and I'll astrally project there and read what they say and come back into my body call them back up and tell them what I saw was there.

(been a while since i last came here and this topic is still running - geesh) Okay well latest update to me trying to astral project - I finally had some alone time with no one snoring in the room next to me, no radio and no cat, so I tried but kind of gave up half way...

then I was laying there is that "white foggy" dreamy state thing I remember being discussed here and someone/thing said my name and I freaked out.

So like I'm not trying to bring up the story of my dead birth father "visiting" me and my mom when I was 3 and he was 3 years rotting in the ground...yeaaaaah...but um could it have been him, cuz it kind of reminded me of what I heard at age 3 - i have like awesome memory of course...lol...- or could it have been a spirit I don't know, spirit guide ect.

I should probably try again but any advice, I'd love you long time, cuz I've actually been too afraid to try again after that.

Ok thanks =]
I tried last night but i didnt manage it.. i think im going to read some more techniques before trying again tonight.. i kind of forgot exactly what i was meant to be doing xD

First let me say this,WOW! I've always been interested in this since I first heard about it, But I thought it was something that just happened or you were born with the talent. Now i've found out that you can LEARN to do it! I have always wanted to be able to fly, and now if can do this I might be able to. The whole idea of astral projection just is exciting to me. I am going to try this and see what happens. This thread has really given me alot of information. Thanks!

Last night i read through 25 pages of this thread..
do i need a life? xD
Well i tried again and i didnt get anywhere.. i just fell asleep..
but im going to print some stuff off and read it just before i go to bed and then try again.

Edit : Ive just read through this entire thread, i have determined i do in fact need a life. Right anyway moving on! Ive printed some stuff off because i lost the stuff i printed off in july some-time.. so im going to try again tonight and see if i get anywhere =]

Hey, i tried to astral project last night and it didnt work. Every time i take a deep breath my mind pulls back to reality and i can still feel my pyshical body. How long does it take to full project after u lie down? Any more advice available to be given?

Hey there, here's a different technique you could try:

When you feel you are about to project, imagine yourself standing on the other side of the room. Try to picture yourself there as vividly as possible, and with luck, your astral body may 'teleport' there. This would eliminate the detachment issues you've been having.



If you're having trouble projecting consciously perhaps you should try projecting from a dream? As you are drifting off to sleep, use affirmations. Say to yourself "I am going to astral project." This should keep the idea in your mind so that once you fall asleep and begin to dream the concept of projecting will arouse and it may happen.

okay i have a question, and of course i haven't read this whole thread, maybe 5 pages. i'm very much interested in trying this, but what kind of form do you take when you AP, like how do others in the astral plane see you? do you look like you, only naked?? not trying to be funny or anything, but i just had a baby, and i don't wanna do it yet if everyone's gonna see my stretchmarks, plus i still have a good 10 lbs to lose...

Ok.. i having a bit of trouble with this, because i know ive got an alarm going off by body doesnt want to sleep.. meaning im awake for when my alarm goes off and by then im so tired i cant think about ap-ing and i just go straight to sleep.. so im going to try another technique tonight.

ok... i found this because my 2 friends (who r girls... not like were goin out or anything) said that they could do it... so i wanted to try! i couldnt do it cause they couldnt explain it to me so im glad i could find this site! i didnt read the other pages of this post but ill come back to check up on the rest... but just so u kno... u can communicate with other ppl on the human plane with (like you said) will power and practice. i kno this cause one of my friends does have a boy friend and one night she astroprojected and went to his house... while she was there she shook him on the sholder and told him to text-message her if he could hear her (she did this at 11:20 at night) then her boy friend told us that at 11:20 that night he woke up because it felt like someone was shaking his sholder! he also said that he had the urge to text-message her but he didnt cause he thought that she would be sleeping!

also (and im sorry if im making this plost long...) but she said that she doesent want to astroporject anymore cause she said that she sees things while on the astro plane and it feels like something is following her... its kind of kreepy but after i saw this fourm im totally goin go show this to her cause you actually knew about it! im totally going to try it now!!!!!!!!!

also please let me kno if that feeling of being followed is bad or good and.... how exactly do u get back into your body?[font=Comic Sans Ms]

Hey Talik...don't use that font/ size or whatever, it's hard on the eyes and makes your posts take up too much space.

ok sorry about the font ... but will someone answer my question up there?

Interesting story Talik. Go ahead and try it - you can use my technique at the beginning of the thread if it isn't too extreme! The fact that your friend was able to physically 'touch' her boyfriend is amazing.

hey, i have a question. Im beggining to be interested in astral travel and last night i attempted your technique and i believe it worked because i was feeling my pulse all throughout my body and my body felt very heavy. i also felt vibrations at times. but anyway my question is, If im attempting to astral travel how exactly will i know that i have succeded? will i just know it or what? i am kind of confused on how it all works still.

Hey there,

It's a very distinct feeling. You may feel a floating or sinking sensation, and if the vibrations/pulse sensations you experienced are present, you know you are close.

It would make it easy for the begineers to Astral if you strip yourselves of all clothing, jewelry and all artificial objects (rings, bracelets, limb, leg) including false teeth. Importantly set an alarm in case you will sleep to much and someone might get to worry and go to your room to wake you up.

Some do prefer to project in the nude, but it is by no means a necessity, for beginners or masters. You can project clothed just as easily as you can naked - it is other variables which influence projection e.g. how tired you are, whether or not you have eaten recently etc.

See if we are trying to astral project? do we just imagine ourselves comuing out of our body or something like that? Its difficult for me to be able to "feel" my body vibrating or sinking, apart from the time when my headd went through the bed. (weirdest experience ever!)...anyway so yea.....

Don't worry if you don't experience vibrations - some people don't. Your head sinking into the bed is a definite sign of astral projection! As far as techniques go, read my first post of the thread - that method seems to work for nearly everyone.