To some of you, the idea of astral travel, (astral projection, OBE) may seem completely insane. It did to me once too. But I decided to try it anyway, and had amazing results.

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Astral travel has been practised throughout history - and there have been thousands of documented scientific experiements confirming that astral travel is real.
People seek therapy because they 'wake up paralyzed and rigid' (sleep paralysis, a close component of astral travel) 'Wake up and see strange beings around them' (entities found in the astral plane) 'Find themselves floating or vibrating violently, or engulfed in a bright light' (sensations felt as the astral body leaves the physical body) Some people have even gone so far as to say their astral experiences are alien encounters.

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And, there are those who resent astral travel and/or refuse to beleive it is possible at all. Perhaps for one or more of the following reasons:

1. They beleive that astral experiences are actually dreams. (Wrong. Astral travel is a fully conscious experience, as thousands of people have confirmed worldwide.)

2. They beleive that those who claim to astral travel are under the influence of drugs and/or alcohol. (Wrong again. Drugs or Alcohol actually hinder astral travel. Furthermore, most people who astral travel began astral travelling at a very young age - 6 to 12.)

3. They beleive what people describe as an astral experience is actually an alien abduction. (Thrice wrong. Although, waking paralyzed, seeing strange entities, and being engulfed in a blinding white light may be likened to an alien abduction, such symptoms are components of the first stages of astral travel.)

4. They beleive people claim to be able to astral travel for publicity, money, or attention in general. (Indeed, some people may use astral travel for such a purpose, or claim that they are able to astral travel when in actuality they cannot. However, astral travel is an enlightening spiritual experience, and he or she who has astral travelled normally understands the importance of keeping such a controvertial hobby quiet. Furthermore, it is commonly known that if one astral travels for selfish or evil purposes, they are likely to find themselves attracting unpleasant entities.)

5. They beleive astral travel is evil, and a sin unto god. (A misconception. As said above, astral travel is a spiritually enlightening and developing experience, not an evil or sinful one. The bible actually talkes about astral travel on several occasions; it describes people as being "in the spirit" while receiving prophecy. Terminology of astral projection is also found in:

Ecclesiastes 12:6-12:7:

"Remember [your Creator] — before the silver cord is severed,
or the golden bowl is broken;
before the pitcher is shattered at the spring,
or the wheel broken at the well,
and the dust returns to the ground it came from,
and the spirit returns to God who gave it."

The passage is talking about what happens when we die.
The silver cord this passage talks about exists when one projects. It links the physical body to the astral one. Don't worry - It can only be severed if we die in the physical world. The golden bowl refers to the 'crown chakra' the main energy center of the body, used to project. Biblical Scholars attribute these lines to astral projection or the astral body in general.

Those are some of the more common reasons people resent or refuse to beleive astral travel is possible. Hopefully I have cleared up some of the myths associated with this phenomena.

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Here is a technique for astral travel. I bluntly call it the '4 in the morning technique' I have tried many methods over the past two years, and this one had the best results. I have written it out in steps. It involves getting up at 4 o'clock in the morning - a little extra effort, but it is by far worth it. The reasons for waking up at 4 in the morning are:

- You will be drowsy and it will be easier to clear your head.
- You will drift off to sleep much faster.
- You will have gotten up for a purpose; your body and mind will be tuned to what you are trying to achieve.

A note to those who are skeptical about astral travel but still wish to try it: You must keep an open mind while attempting to project. Any negative thoughts or feelings will certainly hold you back. Stay positive, open, and willing.

The technique is as follows:

Set your alarm for 4 o'clock in the morning.

Allow yourself to drift asleep.

At four in the morning, the alarm will wake you. Get out of bed turn on the light, and splash water on your face. Dry your face with a towell.

After about two minutes, get back in bed. Lie on your back.

You will most likely be feeling groggy and tired. Your mind will be eager to get back to sleep.

Close your eyes, and clear your mind. This should be easy because you are so tired.

Now, imagine you are standing somewhere in your room. Perhaps in the far corner. Vividly see yourself standing there. Know that you are standing there, and that your body is still lying on the bed. Focus your whole mind on this concept.

While working on that, begin a simple affirmation in your head. "I am going to astral travel. I am going to leave my body." Say it in your head, over and over, while imagining you are on the other side of the room.

While you are doing this, you will begin to drift back to sleep. Slowly, your mind will begin to cloud. Make sure that the concept of standing elsewhere in your room is the last thing that goes through your mind before you are asleep.

You may experience one or more of the following sensations:

- Floating
- Sinking
- Vibrations
- A bright white/blue light
- A rushing or popping sound
- Starnge noises; someone calling your name
- A jolt

If you experience one or more of these sensations for the first time, it may be frightening. But know that they are positive signs; signs that let you know you're about to project.
Almost always, apon feeling a strange sensation, the person trying to project gets such a fright that he/she is jolted back into their body. If this happens to you, allow yourself to fall asleep and try again the next night, knowing presently that there is nothing to fear.

If you find yourself outside your body, do not stay out for too long the first time. Float about your room, become used to the physics of the astral plane, and then will yourself back into your body. You can start exploring after a 24 hour break. There may be a guide waiting for you. This guide will watch over you and take you where you please. Talk briefly with the guide, and say you will project again in 24 hours.

When 24 hours pass, you will be ready to explore and venture further than your room. You may not even have to use drifting off to sleep as a medium for astral travel.

If, after several attempts, you still have not projected, do not be detered. It is likely you will have felt some of the sensations above while trying, and this is a positive sign. You must remember that it is a matter of willpower. You can't just casually attempt to project in a one-off scenario. Think about astral travel throughout the day. Buy a book on astral travel. Attempt to astral travel everynight. Eventually, I gurantee, you will get out.

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That's all I have time for at the moment. If you have any questions about the technique I listed, or about astral travel or the astral plane, send me a PM. I will be happy to help.

So thats what its called huh.....

I been doing that astro-traveling for a long time.....I always knew it was more intense than dreaming and knew it was somehow a psychic type thing, but I have always been able to feel people's emotions from talking with them even for only moments....

I just figured I was maybe a little more "in tune" with my surroundings than other's..

I had no idea it had a name and stuff......very interesting.....

Good Post!

woah woah woah woah woah wait a minute-could you do this on accident sometimes? because a few times since about maybe 2 years ago i have been in been at night sort of sleeping but a little awake, and suddenly it feels like someone yanks my arm and gives it a jolt. then im suddenly wide awake and my heart beats fast cuz it freaks me out. It even happened in school today when i was falling asleep. i have heard of astral projection but i didnt know what it was or what happens. Also, i know this sounds stupid, but is this guide thing like a human, an animal, or can you not see it. And if you come across one, does it speak the same language you speak like English? sorry if im being a bother-

-Saint Hak

Hi Saint-Hak,

The jolt sensation you felt could very well mean you were beginning to astral project. You got a fright though, so you were pulled back.

An answer to the guide question - when you astral project, you are able to see all kinds of different entities - ghosts, angels, you name it. Each of us has our own guide that waits for us in the astral. It could take any form - animal or human. If it wants to talk to you, it will probably talk to you in a way you will understand; in the language you speak.

I have a short attention span so I didn't bother to read your entire post (I will soon after I eat my cereal). But is it possible to astral project into an animal? My roommate claims that he can do this with cats. And I find this spooky.

socrates,

Thank You for telling me that, im sorry if im being a nuisance, but i have a few more questions. what happens if you go to far away from your body, and what is the maximum distance you can travel? also, would your body be in a coma like state when you were astro projecting? and could you effect the the physical realm or contact anyone while doing this? and one more BIG question. Lets say i have a friend spend the night at my house. If we both astro-projected, could we see eachother and talk to eachother in the astro plane? that just came to my my when i read this. well, thank you for your help i always wanted to know how to astroproject.

thank you,

-Saint Hak

P.S.-could any ghost,entity,angel,etc. hurt you while on the astral plane and keep you from getting back to your body? and-how DO you get back to the physical realm?

Hey there,

I'm afraid this is impossible. Ironically, I've tried to 'get inside' my cat before. Doesn't work at all.

How can you be so sure, unless you have a study on several different people and compare the data?

Not a problem I'm happy to help.

You can go as far away from your body as you please. many people have reported flying far into outer-space. It's important not to fly very far during your first few times though.

Your body is not left in a coma state. It simply keeps breathing and functioning normally. Don't forget, your brain is still in your body; it's your consciousness that has left.

Occasionally, you may be able to make yourself appear to people in the physical, or even talk to them, but it depends how much you want to do it. It takes willpower. Ultimately, what you do in the astral does not affect the physical.

If you and your friend both astral projected, then yes, you would be able to see and talk to eachother in the astral. People often astral travel together, as it is more fun!

Good question.

This has been done countless times before. There have been experiements all over the world involving the study of astral travel. Look up the work of:

'Stuart Blue Harary'
'Dr. Robert Morris'
'Keith Harary'
'Dr. Scott Rogo'
'William Gerhardi'

Those are just a few names. The list is endless.

I will definitely check it out and show my roommate.

You do that! I'm glad you're so interested.

So by using brainwashing techniques you achieve astral projection......O...K

Explain this negative close-minded response, please

Sounds like someone needs to try it for themself!

I can understand your skepticism. But why don't you give it a try?

I've got my reservations about this. You bring up the Biblical explanation, but nowhere does it say anything about leaving your body to fly around.

Second, do you know who these "guides" are?

Third, if you believe in Angels, Demons, Ghosts, etc... then what's to say that when your consciousness, or soul, leaves your body, that something else doesn't take it over while you're on holiday?

It all seems like a nice change from day to day monotony, but it's also a very dangerous thing. Although http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astral_projection uses the same Biblical reference as you do, it is taken out of context. The use of "in the spirit" has nothing to do with astral projection. It's referring to the Holy Spirit, praying in the Holy Spirit. The trance is related to just that, and not leaving your body.

Astral Projection has been studied extensively, and it's authenticity is still inconclusive. It is believed by some to be real, and by others to be psychological, lucid dreams, etc... Personally, I've had some VERY vivid dreams that felt too real to have been just dreams. I've felt like I've fallen back into my body and jolted awake. Does it mean I've left my body? Absolutely not. It just means my imagination (a dream) created a sense of falling. It's pretty easy to explain, considering that when you're awake, and someone touches your arm, you feel it. But when you're asleep, you can slap some people in the face and they won't wake up, they don't feel it, and have no recollection of it in the morning. Your brain is fully capable of tuning off some senses and creating others within itself, which in turn can create a false reality. Whether it be when you're asleep, or when you are in a traumatizing event. Everyone has their own set of triggers.

Can you move your hand astrally *out* of your hand completely awake, aware, anytime in a calm environment? With no meditative process??

I can do that and that is something I think is crazy and it has it fantastical quality to it - I know, but, with contact with the afterlife - you see and hear them. They can "touch" you. Let you know you can do it. It's something I learned how to do.

Knightmeir, you have some very valid points.

Perhaps you'd be interested in the work of these scientists as well:

'Stuart Blue Harary'
'Dr. Robert Morris'
'Keith Harary'
'Dr. Scott Rogo'
'William Gerhardi'
'Sylvan Mondoon'
'Sylvia Browne'

If you're willing, you could try the technique I listed as well. You've got nothing to lose. Apart from a good night's sleep.

Hey PFlack; yes, I can do that, but I need to fully relax first. It takes quite a while. Sounds like you have an awesome talent.

hey socrates, tonight im going to try to astral travel, and then tomorrow night my friend will spend the night. when i told him about it, he thought it sounded cool and all, but then we thought of something. If we BOTH were in astral projection at the same time, and we saw eachother and everything on the astral plane and stuff, and then we had to go back to our bodies...Is there any chance that i could go back into HIS body and he could go back INTO my body, but you know, we are just sort of conciouses in the astral plane sort of, and our bodies will have no concious. so does this mean we could switch bodies for a week? just a theory we thought of

-Saint Hak

... I'm impressed. You really sound like you know what you're doing. I'll try this out on the weekend, maybe...

TeraLink Was Here!

Hey Saint Hak, although that's an interesting idea, I'm afraid it's impossible. There is a silver cord which connects your physical body to your astral body. Your astral body is for your body, and yours alone. Cool idea though. You'll still be able to have lots of fun putting your hands through eachother and stuff like that.

Teralink, you should! You'll be amazed by the sensations you feel and the experiences you have.

This has got to be one of the best techniques i've ever heard of...
I might try it.
Every other technique I have come across is just so looooooooong and tedious.

Thanks
Peace be upon you

Yeah - the great thing about this technique is you're already drowsy and tired when you begin, instead of being wide awake. So it takes minimal time to get out! Good luck.

aww man it didnt work last night but no matter what happens im still going to keep trying because i KNOW that i can naturally do this its just that i keep getting 'shocked' back into my physical body.i tryed to do it while falling asleep because it was a school night lol but since its friday now im gonna do it your way.

-Saint Hak

I have not read this entire thread, but I see you recommending or promoting the readings of "'Sylvia Browne'", a widely controversial "Psychic". Have you read any of Sylvia's works or other things by her? I would like to know if you are recommending her because you believe she is a formidable source of knowledge on this subject, or because she is a popular source of knowledge on this subject.

I would also like to warn people that self-proclaimed "Scientists" fail to use the Scientific Method or other methods of conducting experiments and coming upon results that are free from bias more often than not.

Great attitude! Keep it up.

Hey Raven.

Good point. Sylvia Browne isn't a scientist. To tell the truth, I don't know much about what she does outside of her audio tapes on astral travel. I've listened to them and they're pretty good. If you feel so strongly about it, would you like me to remove her from the list?

Well, there is reasonable evidence to believe Sylvia Browne and a multitude of other popular "Psychics" are frauds and in reality, entrepreneurs playing on a weak-minded society.

I understand what you're saying. Sylvia has some great astral projection audio tapes, but outside of that, she could very well be a fraud.

I tried your technique for like 15 minutes and i got this jolt and i opened my eyes :\.
Is that ment to happen?
Anways ima try again 2nite.

that technique seems to work really good. I tried it last night, ecxept for the part about waking up at four, and i definetly noticed getting a lot closer to projecting alot easier. Only thing that stopped me is that every time i got powerful vibrations or felt like i was about to project, i would almost kind of "jump" in suprise. any idea on how to get past that?

first i wantd to say hw cool it is that u know all this stuff and isnt it possibe for some other spirit to posses your body

When that happens,kick the spirits ass.

Hey there, yes, this is a very good sign. It means you began to slip out of your body, but you were jolted back. Keep it up!

Hey there,

Practise makes perfect. Once you're familiar with the vibrations, they won't surprise you so much and you won't jolt. Just keep up the good work for a little longer!

Hey there,

Don't worry, that is a myth. Nothing can posess or harm our bodies while we are away.

'Demons', the kind that are exorcised from people, are internal forces - they are conjured by the mind, created by negative thoughts and emotions.

hi socrates. i'm really dying to astral project. i've had sleep paralysis a couple of times. it was very scarey. i saw devils, one even spoke to me once. once i woke up at night finding my body floating in the air, but i felt hands holding me up and then they let go and i landed with a thud on the bed. none of these times was i trying to obe or anything like that. they just happened. somtimes i'm just sure something will happen and it does. and deja vu happens to me very often. the point is i think i'm naturally talented at this kind of thing, so i cant wait to try ur method for astral projecting tonight. i have a question, though. let's say i do astral project, can i ask someone else's spirit questions, someone who's alive. there's this one person i'm dying to ask a question but i cant in physical life, so can i do it in the astral plane?

Hey,

Yes, it definately sounds like you're already a natural at astral projection.

You may very well be able to talk to this person in the astral. Once you have left your body, focus hard on him/her and he/she may appear to you in an astral state.

If this doesn't work, talk to me again and we will have to discuss a more advanced method.

Good luck!

I've heard that you should imagine that the ceiling is like a magnet. Would this help for anyone or be considered a myth?

Hey there Socrates!

I have had an interest in Astral Projection for awhile already, but haven't really tried any techniques to actually try to do it... I guess mostly due to some fear. You seem to know alot about this topic so mabe you could debunk this little mystery for me. I have heard from some sources that Astral Projection could be DANGEROUS or even FATAL if done the wrong way. The source (which I belive was on television News) stated that there was a man who practiced Astral Projection and was found dead because he couldn't find his way back to his body after he succesfully achieved Astral Projection. I want to attempt Astral Projection I really do, but mabe not if there is this kind of a risk involved.
Do you believe this is actually true? Do you think it could be fatal if you dont know how to Astral Project the "correct way", for a lack of better terms. Is there even a correct way to Astral Project?

A common usage of fear or scare tactics is to get others to believe you or take you more seriously, even if you're lying; it gets their attention. If you tell someone you're God, they will probably just laugh it off. If you tell someone you're God and if anyone else claims to be they're going to die, all with a serious look in your eyes, they will think differently of it. Take this into consideration.

That is a really brilliant. As far as I know, it has not been proven that you can contact the dead and ask them how they died. By looking at his body and using scientific means, how would someone know the man died because he couldn't return to his body? Don't take foolish stories like this to heart.



I could get into this deeply but I'm going to wait for Socrates to respond.

After attempting the methods listed in an Aura thread here and being completely shocked with the results, it has given me an even more open mind to say the least. I'll gladly try the methods here and any other method someone wants me to and tell you my results. As a bonus, I try to conduct these sorts of an experiment from an objective stance. If I end up dead, it's probably because I've found a better world in the astral.

Edit:Wonderful opening post Socrates; I just took the time to fully read it. It sounds like a very plausable method. I would like to ask you about several uncanny phenomena I have experienced in the past, though.

I've not attempted to astral project as nearly as much as I have to lucid dream, and now lucid dreaming happens every night although not always can I remember the fine details of it; something I'm still working on. However, when I have tried to project, the first time I got real results was when I focused on a point on the ceiling and then willed myself up at it (Noting the ceilings in that area were 10+ feet tall.) After a few attempts over the same night it began to feel like I was all of a sudden spinning out of control and just as I was getting somewhere -- as you mentioned -- I felt the "Jolt"

Other times I have not attempted to astral project and simply just "Go to sleep" I have heard voices in my head calling my name. It is the most vivid and peculiar sound. I personally have a fairly easy time at clearing things out of my head, but in the drowsy state before sleep, occasionally the voices will surface. They will be a voice I recognize as one of my friends or even a relative, and will continue calling my name. Unlike other thoughts, I cannot stop it or have any effect on it with thoughts. It's a bit frightening although it has not happened too often.

When I was quite young, probably from the ages of 4-10, I would have the most horrifying dreams I've ever experienced or could contemplate. In those dreams, which were even more vivid than my lucid dreams, I would first begin in my bedroom or nearby. I wouldn't have any body but there would be a presence, sometimes multiple ones. I would first feel myself being lifted up, hovering above the ground, still with no body. Then an unseen "force" that was like a hand dragged me around. One of the most common instances was being dragged from my room by this force that had infinite strength and I could do nothing to resist. It would pull me down the hall way and right when I started going down the stairs I would pop back awake, nearly dead with fear. The other instances I would begin outside my room, which would be entirely black. That same invisible force would pull the body I didn't have either into the dark room and against the bed, or drag me around and push me with amazing strength against the bed of my parents. I'm not sure if you've experienced anything like this before, but the vividness, thought process, and feelings of fear and helplessnes are horrific. Oddly enough, this type of dreaming only happened in one house that I used to live in. Could this be some sort of Astral Projection?

I apologize for the length of this post, but this is one of the topics I have not yet looked too deeply into; one thing at a time. Another thing I experience is that sometimes right before falling asleep, images or thoughts will be forced into my mind and then vanish. For example, I might all of a sudden see the picture of some city that resembles nothing I know of, then when I think about it with my mind it will vanish and I will be unable to remember what I was thinking about or seeing, just that I was seeing something.

Finally, what do you personally do or experience in this "Astral" existance. It sounds quite similar to lucid dreaming in the realm of possibility, but the similarities appear to end there. You posted in a Hydrokinesis thread that such things and much more is possible while projecting. I'd like you to elaborate; What is possible? What do you do personally? Can you explore other places, even those you have not been to? Can you visit the physical forms of other people, or maybe their astral counterpart? Could you talk to someone and they would remember it in the physical world? I've heard of these things mentioned before, but it's all cloudly and seemingly rare that someone who seems to honestly experience these events comes around.

Looking foward to your response to my ridiculously long post.

Hey there,

yes, this would indeed help. Imagining the ceiling is like a magnet, provided you also imagine you are magnetic and drawn to the ceiling, is a good method for leaving the body.
Give it a try and tell me what happens.

Hey Spikester,

Don't worry. This is a myth and common misconception. The news network must have been pretty short on stories to come up with something like that! There have been no recorded instances of death through astral travel, and there will be none in the future. It is impossible to get lost in the astral plane. For one thing, your physical body and astral body are connected by an etheric cord which cannot be damaged in any way, and for another, you will be jolted back into your physical body if even the slightest threat arises. People often find themselves pulled back into their bodies when they venture too far - being unable to find one's body is simply an impossibility.

There is no correct way. As long as a way works, it does just fine. So, don't worry, stay positive, give it a try, and you'll see for yourself there's nothing to fear.

Good luck!

And finally, Raven!

I much enjoyed reading your post. It sounds as though you're not much different from me.

You are probably a natural at astral projection, whether you realize it or not.

About your childhood 'dreams' - very likely to be astral projection. The vividness, the pulling, - all the sensations are there. It is unfortunate your experiences with AP were negative, but this often happens with children. If you don't know exactly what is happening to you, it can be a terrifying experience, amplified by fear. The people calling your name - I have also experienced this. It happens only when the body is ready to astral travel and has nothing to do with dreaming, so it is an accurate measure to know wether or not you are about to astral travel or simply slip into a dream.

The technique you used to try and astral travel - imagining being drawn to a point on the ceiling - is a good one, but I know how you as an individual can achieve AP far more easily and with the minimum of effort. You mentioned lucid dreaming. The sleep state is a portal for astral travel that can be accessed if you can lucid dream. You need only know that you are dreaming, and say that you want to astral travel. I have done this before. Initially I was skeptical about such a method because I thought perhaps I would simply dream about astral travelling and not do it in actuality. But sure enough, one night when I discovered I was dreaming, I said firmly 'I want to astral travel'. Suddenly my awareness was transported back to my physical self where I was experiencing powerful vibrations and flashing lights. Before I could quite grasp what was going on, I was out.

You asked what I can do in the astral plane. What are the possibilities during astral travel. Now this is the most exciting question of all. And the answer is just as exciting - Anything. In the astral limits are non-existent. Some things people enjoy doing, however:

- Flying
- Going through walls
- Talking with divine entities
- Creating thoughtforms (simple entities created and powered by one's own imagination)
- Visiting outer-space
- Travelling the world
- Meeting one's spirit guide
- Transcending time
- Visiting deceased loved-ones

And much more. Too much to write.

Thats all I have time for now, Raven, but I'd love to continue our discussion.

Thanks for the quick reply Socrates. I'll take in some of the things you said, although I'm not sure how good the lucid dreaming method will work. I do lucid every night, but I rarely have control over it, and am having trouble developing a method of control.

I'll try a multitude of things and get back to you tomarrow on the initial results. I'll surely have a plethora of questions to ask you.

Another question Socrates,can you do this while you have your eyes opened?Or does it work better with them closed.Sorry if you've already answered this ,i've just skimmed all this.

Hey again Travisimo,

Interesting question!

You cannot project with your eyes open at will. Some people have spontaneous projections - they find themselves out of their bodies during their waking lives, eyes open and all. But these are extremely rare.

Unless, of course, you were able to induce a trance state at will. While in a trance, some people are able to keep their eyes open. Thus, you could project while in a trance, but this would require extensive practise.

Good luck, Raven!

Questions are good! Keep them coming.