et's daddy
Jan 26 2006, 03:29 AM
personal i do believe in some form of life after death
and a being (or beings) more powerful then ourselves
although, i find life on other planets to be more plausible
just my own personal opinion
Beckys_Mom
Jan 26 2006, 03:34 AM
I say both exsist
Glacies
Jan 26 2006, 03:35 AM
yeah, you didn't specify what type of life, so technically single celled organisms in some sort of primordial ooze in some far outreach of our galaxy, i find to have more basis in fact. just my opinion of course, I could be wrong.
Beckys_Mom
Jan 26 2006, 03:38 AM
I say God exsists cuz it's just my belief..something I feel...I say aliens exsist cuz why would there be life on just the one planets and not the rest of them throughout the entire universe...
Concepts
Jan 26 2006, 03:41 AM
interesting poll!!!
i say "both"
buffy46
Jan 26 2006, 03:44 AM
I feel the concept of "God" and also "alian life" both "exist"
We are all energy and when we leave our bodies in this dimension=earth, this energy all becomes "one"
So, per say, both exist
Yelekiah
Jan 26 2006, 05:01 AM
In reference to the question I would say aliens are more plausible, based on the Drake Equation.
_hAiLO_
Jan 26 2006, 06:56 AM
IMO, Both Exist
Paranoid Android
Jan 26 2006, 07:51 AM
Both
Unclassified Weapon
Jan 26 2006, 09:31 AM
Theyve found a planet outside the solar system which seems to have the same properties of earth. This planet is around 100, 250 or 1000 light years away, so who knows perhaps theyre is other life in the universe. I mean why not just us?
et's daddy
Jan 26 2006, 03:29 PM
just seems odd to me with all of the believer in God in the world
all the votes so far include aliens
artymoon
Jan 26 2006, 03:33 PM
QUOTE(et's daddy @ Jan 26 2006, 10:29 AM) [snapback]1036806[/snapback]
just seems odd to me with all of the believer in God in the world
all the votes so far include aliens
Why?
~TheArtOfContact~
Jan 26 2006, 04:07 PM
I can't vote on any of the four, but I would have to say aliens are more plausible.
You did say 'life on other planets' and that isn't 'aliens'.
Life on other planets could be water on Mars.
Guardsman Bass
Jan 26 2006, 06:46 PM
God is a supposedly extremely powerful entity that can not be examined objectively, can not be pinned to any real ascribed motives, and supposedly exists in spite of the fact that no one has seen "him" outside of religious "revelations."
A prospective alien, on the other hand, would be visible to the eye, dissectable, examinable (even if you didn't understand their motives), and explainable (with sufficient examination of their history, you could identify their evoluionary origins).
I'd say the alien is more plausible.
Beckys_Mom
Jan 26 2006, 07:45 PM
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Why?
Good question arty...WHY indeed..is it strange.... et's daddy it's over to you my friend...tell us WHY?
Byuu94
Jan 26 2006, 09:22 PM
Both
Kit Walker
Jan 26 2006, 10:43 PM
Neither!
ShaunZero
Jan 26 2006, 11:06 PM
If stars are the throwns of angels, then both. =)
If not, then I beleive in God but not Aliens. I'll get pounded for this, but who cares, I state my opinion =)
mako
Jan 26 2006, 11:16 PM
Zero, check the structural integrity of the roof - except for the part about the angels, I agree with you! Of course we don't agree on who the "God" is, Jehovah or the Creator, but I can live with that!
et's daddy
Jan 26 2006, 11:44 PM
QUOTE(Beckys_Mom @ Jan 26 2006, 02:45 PM) [snapback]1037038[/snapback]
Good question arty...WHY indeed..is it strange.... et's daddy it's over to you my friend...tell us WHY?

sorry it took me awhile to respond but i had to work
why ?
well IMO religion is much more openly and widely accepted in the mainstream
i do think more people believe in life on other planets then it may appear
because i think many people are not open about such a belief for fear of ridicule
im not sure why belief in a supernatural all knowing all seeing all powerful being is more openly acceptable then life on another planet
but i think that is the case
"With an estimated 2.3 billion adherents, Christianity is arguably the world's largest religion."
this quote is from Wikpedia
i dont believe over 2 billion people will openly admit to a belief of life on other planets
even here in relative anonimity i figured the #'s to be skewed
Nadal
Jan 26 2006, 11:48 PM
Aliens is a definition for things "Foreign" of a place, PFlak. Not little green men, it could be plants or micro-organisim. But, I agree with Yelekiah. Life on other planets is a lot more believable than a supposed higher power.
mako
Jan 26 2006, 11:49 PM
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i dont believe over 2 billion people will openly admit to a belief of life on other planets
even here in relative anonimity i figured the #'s to be skewed
Just nit-picking, 2 billion is less than 1/3 of humanity....maybe the other 2/3's all believe in ET.
Beckys_Mom
Jan 26 2006, 11:50 PM
QUOTE(et's daddy @ Jan 26 2006, 11:44 PM) [snapback]1037324[/snapback]
sorry it took me awhile to respond but i had to work
why ?
well IMO religion is much more openly and widely accepted in the mainstream
i do think more people believe in life on other planets then it may appear
because i think many people are not open about such a belief for fear of ridicule
im not sure why belief in a supernatural all knowing all seeing all powerful being is more openly acceptable then life on another planet
but i think that is the case
"With an estimated 2.3 billion adherents, Christianity is arguably the world's largest religion."
this quote is from Wikpedia
i dont believe over 2 billion people will openly admit to a belief of life on other planets
even here in relative anonimity i figured the #'s to be skewed
I see what you are saying
But I have to point out it would be rather ignorant to only believe that God would just create such a large universe and only put life on such a small (tiny even) planet such as earth
Difference is...in many years to follow science may find a way to proove life exsists on other planets..heck they are already working on it now
Big cheese
Jan 27 2006, 02:23 PM
God exsists in the mind of man
Life on other planets i would say is most probbable
what would be interesting is if for sake of argument they had found sentiant life on another planet what would happen to your religions if they/its whatever had non ? not even the concept of a god
nativechick1989
Jan 27 2006, 08:19 PM
Both.
The Raven
Jan 27 2006, 08:29 PM
Noting on probability which encompasses the billions of stars and billions of possible solar systems in the visible universe, and because the universe is infinite -- without borders or a center -- it is nearly impossible for extraterrestrial life not to exist. Therefore, "Aliens" exist in the form we estimate them as today and other forms of life and consciousness we have yet to comprehend.
On the other hand, it is improbable for the entity that is commonly named "God" to exist. A being with such infinite power and lack of boundaries could be defined as the universe and the energy contained within the universe itself. On the other hand, the concept of of God, Gods, Goddesses, and other divine beings was created by the human mind, as were systems of government, leisure, etc. Because these same ideas fuel the advancing of technology, we have essentially created the essence of God by accepting the idea that God, or other divine entities exist, depending on your religious and spiritual beliefs.
Because the essence of God -- essence describing what we know as God, because God must exist in ideas as we are speaking of him now, although not in the conventional means of existance -- exists, so does the essence of Extraterrestrials. There may be no God or Extraterrestrials, but because we can talk about them here, their essence exists in our minds, just as an idea does.
Therefore, in reality, probability is in favor of the Extraterrestrials, because God has no evidence or proof in reality while logic and probability is the proof of Extraterrestrials. Memories and recollections in the fragile human mind cannot be considered proof without being recorded in a means that can repeat the event exactly as it happened
Byuu94
Jan 27 2006, 10:31 PM
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Therefore, in reality, probability is in favor of the Extraterrestrials, because God has no evidence or proof in reality while logic and probability is the proof of Extraterrestrials. Memories and recollections in the fragile human mind cannot be considered proof without being recorded in a means that can repeat the event exactly as it happened
The problem is is that aliens can be measured by physical means, because they are physical beings. Since god is not physical, it cannot be measured by physical means.
The best we could do would be to measure the physical side-effects of it. However, since the side-effects are physical they don't prove (or even hint) at god's existance. It's a rather thorny sitaution.
ShaunZero
Jan 27 2006, 10:48 PM
QUOTE(The Raven @ Jan 27 2006, 08:29 PM) [snapback]1038378[/snapback]
Noting on probability which encompasses the billions of stars and billions of possible solar systems in the visible universe, and because the universe is infinite -- without borders or a center -- it is nearly impossible for extraterrestrial life not to exist. Therefore, "Aliens" exist in the form we estimate them as today and other forms of life and consciousness we have yet to comprehend.
On the other hand, it is improbable for the entity that is commonly named "God" to exist. A being with such infinite power and lack of boundaries could be defined as the universe and the energy contained within the universe itself. On the other hand, the concept of of God, Gods, Goddesses, and other divine beings was created by the human mind, as were systems of government, leisure, etc. Because these same ideas fuel the advancing of technology, we have essentially created the essence of God by accepting the idea that God, or other divine entities exist, depending on your religious and spiritual beliefs.
Because the essence of God -- essence describing what we know as God, because God must exist in ideas as we are speaking of him now, although not in the conventional means of existance -- exists, so does the essence of Extraterrestrials. There may be no God or Extraterrestrials, but because we can talk about them here, their essence exists in our minds, just as an idea does.
Therefore, in reality, probability is in favor of the Extraterrestrials, because God has no evidence or proof in reality while logic and probability is the proof of Extraterrestrials. Memories and recollections in the fragile human mind cannot be considered proof without being recorded in a means that can repeat the event exactly as it happened
Not really. We have no idea how many planets can even support life, we just have an estimate of the ammount of stars.
et's daddy
Jan 27 2006, 11:26 PM
QUOTE(ZeroShadow @ Jan 27 2006, 05:48 PM) [snapback]1038544[/snapback]
Not really. We have no idea how many planets can even support life, we just have an estimate of the ammount of stars.
but if we seem to think the universe is infinite
wouldnt that mean an infinite # of planets ?
an infinite # of chances that this could happen on other planets ?
doesnt seem you can have it both ways
and while i do wonder about religion if they have none resembling ours
but, maybe more intriging, what if thier religion mirrors ours? bible and everything ?
Endymion
Jan 27 2006, 11:52 PM
God and Goddess are said in the bible and in every myths of civilizations to be beings not-human so they are of course aliens/extraterrestrial.
So is more plausible aliens with the term Gods given by humans.
The Raven
Jan 28 2006, 03:02 AM
QUOTE(Byuu94 @ Jan 27 2006, 05:31 PM) [snapback]1038525[/snapback]
The problem is is that aliens can be measured by physical means, because they are physical beings. Since god is not physical, it cannot be measured by physical means.
The best we could do would be to measure the physical side-effects of it. However, since the side-effects are physical they don't prove (or even hint) at god's existance. It's a rather thorny sitaution.
A very thorny one in deed. What I am saying is all from a rather solipsistic standpoint. Extraterrestrials are more probable because of the range of stars and possible solar systems harboring Earth-like planets, and because they can be measured by scientific and physical means. There is not yet proof that a "spiritual" world exists.
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Not really. We have no idea how many planets can even support life, we just have an estimate of the ammount of stars.
Hence the word "possible". It is proven that other solar systems exist, and in those solar systems it is possible that there are rocky planets in a similar position to it's star as the Earth is to the Sun, and thus possibly being home to a form of life.
I can't say the same about God. Where would one begin?
et's daddy
Jan 31 2006, 12:11 AM
so far as i know there is no "proof" God exists
i havent even heard of and books or tales of the bible being proven
if there are id truly love to hear about them
RedEyeJedi
Feb 7 2006, 12:43 PM
I believe in God.
I do not think however, our major organised religions have any understanding of what God is. The God I believe in, is not something we would be able to comprehend with our puny human brains - its just not possible.
I believe God is Infinite Consciouness and that we are all a part of God. We are all therefore the sons and daughters of God and we are all a part of each other.
Aliens definitely exist.
Peace.
Rykster
Feb 7 2006, 01:01 PM
They may well be one in the same. I would have voted for that one fer sure.
"A sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic (deity)."
Arthur C. Clarke
(if I missed a word or in any other way messed up that quote, GET OVER IT!)
Sorry, stil a 9 on the 1 to pissed scale
Bebi
Feb 7 2006, 01:20 PM
Personally, I voted "Both". Although I don't believe in the conventional Christian god, I believe that there is some form of higher power, so I'm saying yes to the concept of god more than anything. I think RedEyeJedi echoes my thoughts on this perfectly so I'll leave the actual description in his capable quote:
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I do not think however, our major organised religions have any understanding of what God is. The God I believe in, is not something we would be able to comprehend with our puny human brains - its just not possible.
I believe God is Infinite Consciouness and that we are all a part of God. We are all therefore the sons and daughters of God and we are all a part of each other.
I also believe that there must be some form of life somewhere else in the universe, whether it's intelligent life like ourselves (waits for comments LOL) or as has been said, basic living organisms.
Rykster
Feb 7 2006, 01:26 PM
QUOTE(Bebi @ Feb 7 2006, 08:20 AM) [snapback]1051945[/snapback]
whether it's intelligent life like ourselves (waits for comments LOL) or as has been said, basic living organisms.
That is a good idea for a thread.
While I am as certain as a skeptic can be that
life is ubiquitous in the (this) universe. an intelligent or
technological find would be something else entirely.
While there are other examples of
intelligence on Earth, (orca, dolphins, ants) None have thus far made a space shuttle. Yes it is flawed, but still.
If they are out there I so wish they would drop the shy act and come in for a beer, or cup of tea, and discuss with me the wonders that are out there.
Bebi
Feb 7 2006, 01:34 PM
Or nuke our sorry asses off the planet
Sorry, just thought I'd throw in an example that they (whoever they may be) could be hostile
Rykster
Feb 7 2006, 01:50 PM
QUOTE(Bebi @ Feb 7 2006, 08:34 AM) [snapback]1051952[/snapback]
Or nuke our sorry asses off the planet
They most likely look at our nukes as "cute little toys."
Beckys_Mom
Feb 8 2006, 01:06 AM
QUOTE(et's daddy @ Jan 31 2006, 12:11 AM) [snapback]1041961[/snapback]
so far as i know there is no "proof" God exists
i havent even heard of and books or tales of the bible being proven
if there are id truly love to hear about them
And those can say..prove to us that he does not exist
Nxt2Hvn
Feb 8 2006, 01:24 AM
I would have to say both
newbloodmoon
Feb 8 2006, 02:18 AM
I said both exist. Technically God is an alien life force to humans here on earth. Not to say that he is a bug eyed green alien in a space ship. I think that organisams do live on other planets. So again yes to both.
distortedpandy
Feb 8 2006, 08:04 PM
QUOTE(Beckys_Mom @ Jan 26 2006, 06:50 PM) [snapback]1037330[/snapback]
But I have to point out it would be rather ignorant to only believe that God would just create such a large universe and only put life on such a small (tiny even) planet such as earth
I completely agree
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