over the years i have been led to believe rain water is very pure
seems you can catch it a glass and just drink it
the other day i got to wondering
just how clean is it ?
if a puddle has manure in it
the water evaporates
then rains into your glass
you gonna drink that ?
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good thought....
don't think i'll be drinking rainwater anytime soon....
don't think i'll be drinking rainwater anytime soon....
You really shouldn't drink rain water it may have bacteria or pollutants in it.
ty really
i had always thought it was supposed to be totally safe
maybe figured it was cleansed in the evaporation process
i had always thought it was supposed to be totally safe
maybe figured it was cleansed in the evaporation process
If you boil it then it will be much more safe. It depends on where you live.
dont people have rain water collectors on thier houses ?
Definitely. But I would say that if you live near a factory, it may not be such a good idea unless you have a filter.
apparently i should have researched better
Rainwater for drinking
A drinking water quality rainwater system costs about as much as the typical well. With 20,000 to 30,000 gallons of storage, a family of four can be comfortable without a well or piped water service. But, families using rainwater as their sole source of potable water seldom have lush landscapes. Just watering the grass on a quarter-acre home site one time can use more than 3,000 gallons of water. We average about 32 inches of rain per year in this area, but much of it comes in downpours and your tank(s) may be full and not able to capture all of a rainfall. The time between rains can be long, so rainwater harvesting goes hand-in-hand with water conservation.
To make rainwater safe to drink, additional filtration is needed, plus perhaps an ozone system, reverse osmosis and/or ultra-violet irradiation. You become your own water purveyor and the health of your family and guests depends on the design and safe operation of your drinking water system
thats from the City of Austin
http://www.ci.austin.tx.us/greenbuilder/fs_rainharvest.htm
Rainwater for drinking
A drinking water quality rainwater system costs about as much as the typical well. With 20,000 to 30,000 gallons of storage, a family of four can be comfortable without a well or piped water service. But, families using rainwater as their sole source of potable water seldom have lush landscapes. Just watering the grass on a quarter-acre home site one time can use more than 3,000 gallons of water. We average about 32 inches of rain per year in this area, but much of it comes in downpours and your tank(s) may be full and not able to capture all of a rainfall. The time between rains can be long, so rainwater harvesting goes hand-in-hand with water conservation.
To make rainwater safe to drink, additional filtration is needed, plus perhaps an ozone system, reverse osmosis and/or ultra-violet irradiation. You become your own water purveyor and the health of your family and guests depends on the design and safe operation of your drinking water system
thats from the City of Austin
http://www.ci.austin.tx.us/greenbuilder/fs_rainharvest.htm
Well if you were ever lost in the woods it is an option. But if you had to drink water I would suggest drinking running water as opposed to the stagnant one.
ummmmmmm
dont fish crap in the rivers ?
lol
but seriously you have a good point
for survival purposes i suppose a stream is better then a puddle
dont fish crap in the rivers ?
lol
but seriously you have a good point
for survival purposes i suppose a stream is better then a puddle
Like a rushing river is less likely to have accumulated bacteria. And yes, you're right about the fish poo. I believe bears may poo in there as well. Along with monkeys, deer, snakes, and other humans who feel that it is necessary.
Last time I checked, Only the water evaporates, Not the poop. No need to worry about drinking bear leftovers. 
I think at one time (before fossil fuels were a fuel source) drinking rain water was absolutely fine. Now with all the pollution, I wouldn't bother.
I think at one time (before fossil fuels were a fuel source) drinking rain water was absolutely fine. Now with all the pollution, I wouldn't bother.
@ "bear leftovers"
QUOTE(smallpackage @ Jan 30 2006, 11:31 AM) [snapback]1041396[/snapback]
Last time I checked, Only the water evaporates, Not the poop. No need to worry about drinking bear leftovers.
I think at one time (before fossil fuels were a fuel source) drinking rain water was absolutely fine. Now with all the pollution, I wouldn't bother.you dont think it would hold any of the poo bacteria ?
tell ya what
you drink a heaping helping of bear poo rainwater and lemme know how it tastes
If I ever come across any, I'll let you know. I'm sure it doesn't taste like chicken.
QUOTE(et's daddy @ Jan 30 2006, 11:39 AM) [snapback]1041404[/snapback]
bear poo rainwater
What about this: isn't water reused? The water we drink has been around for thousands of millions of years. The water we drink has been used by plants and dinosaurs and fish and other people. which is the same water that people and animals have done who knows what; no matter where you live, it's been used before.
QUOTE(jedi_yarael_poof @ Jan 31 2006, 09:49 AM) [snapback]1042573[/snapback]
What about this: isn't water reused? The water we drink has been around for thousands of millions of years. The water we drink has been used by plants and dinosaurs and fish and other people. which is the same water that people and animals have done who knows what; no matter where you live, it's been used before.
yes, id say youre right
only thing is
the water coming from my tap goes through various treatment stages before i drink it
not so for rain water caught in a cup
I'd like to add that you are correct about water being reused. Think of the Thames River, this is where Dasani comes from. People used to throw in the victims of the Bubonic Plague in the Thames. Also there was a whale in there recently (poor guy), but I'm sure he pooed in there occasionally. So...the next time you drink Dasani bear this in mind.
(chugs down his Dasani)
They use excellent purifiers, my friends.
(chugs down his Dasani)
They use excellent purifiers, my friends.
i fully agree
companies that supply bottled water have great systems and there is nothing to worry about
now though, after hearing the whale story, i might would think twice before scooping up some Thames River special whale poo water
companies that supply bottled water have great systems and there is nothing to worry about
now though, after hearing the whale story, i might would think twice before scooping up some Thames River special whale poo water
You learn something new every day....
so is it just the UK's Dasani that comes from the Thames, or does all Dasani come from there?
so is it just the UK's Dasani that comes from the Thames, or does all Dasani come from there?
Well my teacher was telling me that, but this is scary
Published on Thursday, March 4, 2004 by Reuters
Coca - Cola Admits That Dasani is Nothing But Tap Water
by Trevor Datson
LONDON - It made for great headlines, but the fact that the UK version of Coca-Cola's Dasani brand bottled water comes out of the London public supply should hardly have come as a surprise.
"Coke's in hot water," "Eau dear" and "The real sting" were three good examples of the newspaper headline writer's art, but the only real difference between Dasani and many other bottled waters is that the humble origin of the product is firmly in the spotlight.
Figures from independent beverage research company Canadean show that at least two out of every five bottles of water sold around the world are, like Dasani, "purified" waters, rather than "source" waters which originate from a spring.
Most of the supermarket own-label bottled waters consist of treated mains water. They may be dechlorinated, filtered further, purified using ultraviolet light and have minerals either added or subtracted. They may also be carbonated.
In short, they are subjected to many of the same treatments that source waters undergo to satisfy public health requirements after being pumped up from the ground.
Alongside flagship brands such as Evian, Perrier, and Malvern, most of the big-name water producers market several purified water lines, often in countries where the safety of the public water supply is a concern.
Nestle's Pure Life is one such leading brand and PepsiCo's Aquafina is another, while Danone's Sparkletts and Alhambra marques are top sellers in the United States, where mains water purity is not usually an issue.
You also have mixed source waters, like Nestle's Aquarel, which comes from seven different springs. Such spring water is cheaper to produce and therefore to sell, and has proved a big hit with consumers in Europe and elsewhere.
But generally speaking, anything that doesn't say "source" or "spring" on the label is just fancy tap water.
PURE HYPE?
So why all the brouhaha over Dasani, a fairly typical product in a rapidly expanding market?
The origin of UK Dasani (it's produced all around the world but is always purified rather than source water) came to light when a complaint was made to the British Food Standards Agency over Coke's use of the word "pure" in its Dasani marketing.
The complaint, now being dealt with by the local authorities where Dasani is bottled in Sidcup, east London, hinges on the charge that the marketing implies that tap water is 'impure'.
As a market for bottled water, the UK is relatively immature. Britons consume an average of 28 litres of bottled water per year, compared with about 140 litres for Italy and France.
So the fact that bottlers take water, purify it further and sell it on can hit the headlines, especially if the water producers take a substantial mark-up in the process.
"Coke didn't do itself any favours by not getting the water supplier on side to begin with," one drinks industry insider said of the local supplier Thames Water.
Like Nestle, McDonald's and Cadbury Schweppes, Coke makes a gratifying target for journalists, in that all those companies trade heavily on their brand.
That makes them extremely vulnerable to criticism, as Coke already found to its cost with its failed "New Coke" launch.
YOU'RE NOT JUST BUYING WATER
Coca-Cola's seven million pound marketing drive for Dasani has taken a savage hit, but the success of the brand in other countries, such as the United States where it is the number two seller, suggests it isn't about to go away.
In the developing world you usually buy bottled water because it's clean, or because it doesn't taste of chlorine. In the west, it's a "lifestyle choice".
Most consumers in developed countries would accept that the water that comes out of their taps is clean enough and quite serviceable for cooking, washing or even drinking.
But just as a pair of supermarket own-brand running shoes will do the job, Nike, Reebok and Adidas can all charge top dollar for the kudos, the street cred, the style statement they make.
This is the essence of brand equity, and it's why consumers are happy to pay over the odds for Welsh TyNant water in Cyprus, or French Evian in the Peruvian Andes. It's also why the "water sommelier" has become a feature of upmarket U.S. restaurants.
"Branding does matter, even for a mundane product like water," Frits van Dijk, chief executive of Nestle Waters, said last year.
"We produce value-added waters. Marketing and R&D all have to be financed somehow and that's why you'll never see Nestle in the very low price market. It's not our territory."
source
Published on Thursday, March 4, 2004 by Reuters
Coca - Cola Admits That Dasani is Nothing But Tap Water
by Trevor Datson
LONDON - It made for great headlines, but the fact that the UK version of Coca-Cola's Dasani brand bottled water comes out of the London public supply should hardly have come as a surprise.
"Coke's in hot water," "Eau dear" and "The real sting" were three good examples of the newspaper headline writer's art, but the only real difference between Dasani and many other bottled waters is that the humble origin of the product is firmly in the spotlight.
Figures from independent beverage research company Canadean show that at least two out of every five bottles of water sold around the world are, like Dasani, "purified" waters, rather than "source" waters which originate from a spring.
Most of the supermarket own-label bottled waters consist of treated mains water. They may be dechlorinated, filtered further, purified using ultraviolet light and have minerals either added or subtracted. They may also be carbonated.
In short, they are subjected to many of the same treatments that source waters undergo to satisfy public health requirements after being pumped up from the ground.
Alongside flagship brands such as Evian, Perrier, and Malvern, most of the big-name water producers market several purified water lines, often in countries where the safety of the public water supply is a concern.
Nestle's Pure Life is one such leading brand and PepsiCo's Aquafina is another, while Danone's Sparkletts and Alhambra marques are top sellers in the United States, where mains water purity is not usually an issue.
You also have mixed source waters, like Nestle's Aquarel, which comes from seven different springs. Such spring water is cheaper to produce and therefore to sell, and has proved a big hit with consumers in Europe and elsewhere.
But generally speaking, anything that doesn't say "source" or "spring" on the label is just fancy tap water.
PURE HYPE?
So why all the brouhaha over Dasani, a fairly typical product in a rapidly expanding market?
The origin of UK Dasani (it's produced all around the world but is always purified rather than source water) came to light when a complaint was made to the British Food Standards Agency over Coke's use of the word "pure" in its Dasani marketing.
The complaint, now being dealt with by the local authorities where Dasani is bottled in Sidcup, east London, hinges on the charge that the marketing implies that tap water is 'impure'.
As a market for bottled water, the UK is relatively immature. Britons consume an average of 28 litres of bottled water per year, compared with about 140 litres for Italy and France.
So the fact that bottlers take water, purify it further and sell it on can hit the headlines, especially if the water producers take a substantial mark-up in the process.
"Coke didn't do itself any favours by not getting the water supplier on side to begin with," one drinks industry insider said of the local supplier Thames Water.
Like Nestle, McDonald's and Cadbury Schweppes, Coke makes a gratifying target for journalists, in that all those companies trade heavily on their brand.
That makes them extremely vulnerable to criticism, as Coke already found to its cost with its failed "New Coke" launch.
YOU'RE NOT JUST BUYING WATER
Coca-Cola's seven million pound marketing drive for Dasani has taken a savage hit, but the success of the brand in other countries, such as the United States where it is the number two seller, suggests it isn't about to go away.
In the developing world you usually buy bottled water because it's clean, or because it doesn't taste of chlorine. In the west, it's a "lifestyle choice".
Most consumers in developed countries would accept that the water that comes out of their taps is clean enough and quite serviceable for cooking, washing or even drinking.
But just as a pair of supermarket own-brand running shoes will do the job, Nike, Reebok and Adidas can all charge top dollar for the kudos, the street cred, the style statement they make.
This is the essence of brand equity, and it's why consumers are happy to pay over the odds for Welsh TyNant water in Cyprus, or French Evian in the Peruvian Andes. It's also why the "water sommelier" has become a feature of upmarket U.S. restaurants.
"Branding does matter, even for a mundane product like water," Frits van Dijk, chief executive of Nestle Waters, said last year.
"We produce value-added waters. Marketing and R&D all have to be financed somehow and that's why you'll never see Nestle in the very low price market. It's not our territory."
source
ive thought about trying to make bottled water (purified of course) with green food coloring in it
and calling it pond scum or something
figured the kids would get a kick out of it lol
and calling it pond scum or something
figured the kids would get a kick out of it lol
that's scary.
although U.S. Dasani probably comes from a nasty place as well.
EDIT: I was referring to Yelekiah's post.
Heehee, 'pond scum'- maybe you should add some lime pulp to get the full effect.
yes, i know
although my idea may be scary as well lol
i seem to recall about the same time, Poland Spring Water had an intense ad campaign making sure everyone knew that thier water was indeed from a natural source
maybe this Dasini SNAFU had something to do with that
although my idea may be scary as well lol
i seem to recall about the same time, Poland Spring Water had an intense ad campaign making sure everyone knew that thier water was indeed from a natural source
maybe this Dasini SNAFU had something to do with that
Perhaps, I have to ask around.
Haha, "pond scum". It's like the green ketchup.
Haha, "pond scum". It's like the green ketchup.
Yeah, ya know, lemon-lime flavored juice with lime pulp. You should market it, ET's Daddy, pretty sure you could make some serious money there.
QUOTE(et's daddy @ Jan 30 2006, 04:39 PM) [snapback]1041404[/snapback]
you dont think it would hold any of the poo bacteria ?
tell ya what
you drink a heaping helping of bear poo rainwater and lemme know how it tastes
That's the thing, h2o seperates from the poop and evaporates. Otherwise, You'd have billions of years worth of bacteria and sh** water that's been inside of humans and animals (keep in mind our bodies contain mostly water) for many many years.
I never said you could just get your hands dirty and pick up some bear droppings, turn it sideways and let the water drip into your mouth.
QUOTE(smallpackage @ Jan 31 2006, 12:26 PM) [snapback]1042702[/snapback]
That's the thing, h2o seperates from the poop and evaporates. Otherwise, You'd have billions of years worth of bacteria and sh** water that's been inside of humans and animals (keep in mind our bodies contain mostly water) for many many years.
I never said you could just get your hands dirty and pick up some bear droppings, turn it sideways and let the water drip into your mouth.
lmaoooo
now thats just gross
funny, but gross
"In most individuals, approximately 60% of the total weight is water. "
http://physioweb.med.uvm.edu/bodyfluids/the.htm
yeah id be glad to know im not 60% bear poo
just to be sure
small can you source your info ?
ty
http://physioweb.med.uvm.edu/bodyfluids/the.htm
yeah id be glad to know im not 60% bear poo
just to be sure
small can you source your info ?
ty
AGGGGGGG when I lived in B.C. i drank out of streams and rivers all the time 
I remember hearing about beaver feaver but never got it thank goodness damn bears pooing in the rivers 
Rainwater ya I would drink it if I had to no doubt. here's a little info. Poo water yuck.
http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/wea00/wea00044.htm
I remember hearing about beaver feaver but never got it thank goodness damn bears pooing in the rivers Rainwater ya I would drink it if I had to no doubt. here's a little info. Poo water yuck.http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/wea00/wea00044.htm
Water Quality, Mosquitoes & Debris
While the water from your rooftop is relatively clean, we do not recommend it for human consumption purposes, unless faced with an emergency situation. Should that occur, it is useful to keep a water filtration system on hand for purification. Because vector carrying mosquitoes are present in every state in the union, precautions should be undertaken to minimize infestation. Top side mesh screens or plastic lids will act as a barrier to insects, but eggs may still drop through. Non-toxic water treatment might be the best proactive approach to pest management (use of MOSQUITO DONUTS is an example of an ecologcial solution to mosquito control). For enclosed units that are not open to the air, and instead have water entering through a pipe or tube, mosquito eggs can still enter by traveling with rainwater from the gutters. Again, mosquito dunks can provide a earth friendly solution to mitigate breeding. Keep in mind that with this type of set up, roof top debris can enter a rain barrel. It is advisable to create or install some type of gutter guard that keeps leaves and pine needles out of the downspout.
http://www.composters.com/docs/rainbarrels.html
forget the bear poo
its mosquito eggs ya need to worry about apparently
While the water from your rooftop is relatively clean, we do not recommend it for human consumption purposes, unless faced with an emergency situation. Should that occur, it is useful to keep a water filtration system on hand for purification. Because vector carrying mosquitoes are present in every state in the union, precautions should be undertaken to minimize infestation. Top side mesh screens or plastic lids will act as a barrier to insects, but eggs may still drop through. Non-toxic water treatment might be the best proactive approach to pest management (use of MOSQUITO DONUTS is an example of an ecologcial solution to mosquito control). For enclosed units that are not open to the air, and instead have water entering through a pipe or tube, mosquito eggs can still enter by traveling with rainwater from the gutters. Again, mosquito dunks can provide a earth friendly solution to mitigate breeding. Keep in mind that with this type of set up, roof top debris can enter a rain barrel. It is advisable to create or install some type of gutter guard that keeps leaves and pine needles out of the downspout.
http://www.composters.com/docs/rainbarrels.html
forget the bear poo
its mosquito eggs ya need to worry about apparently
"Normally you could drink rainwater without becoming ill.
However, rainwater contains pollutants, soil, plant parts,
insect parts, bacteria, algae, and sometimes radioactive
materials that the rain/snow has washed out of the air.
If filtered with one of the filtering systems that you
can buy in stores nowadays, and then boiled, you could
probably drink the water safely. However, it is safer yet
to get your water from municipal water supplies or from wells
that are frequently tested."
David Cook
Argonne National Laboratory
http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/wea00/wea00044.htm
bear poo, mosquito eggs, and now radioactive materials ?
how about that fresh cup of rain water now ?
However, rainwater contains pollutants, soil, plant parts,
insect parts, bacteria, algae, and sometimes radioactive
materials that the rain/snow has washed out of the air.
If filtered with one of the filtering systems that you
can buy in stores nowadays, and then boiled, you could
probably drink the water safely. However, it is safer yet
to get your water from municipal water supplies or from wells
that are frequently tested."
David Cook
Argonne National Laboratory
http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/wea00/wea00044.htm
bear poo, mosquito eggs, and now radioactive materials ?
how about that fresh cup of rain water now ?
QUOTE(et's daddy @ Jan 31 2006, 06:03 PM) [snapback]1042714[/snapback]
"In most individuals, approximately 60% of the total weight is water. "
http://physioweb.med.uvm.edu/bodyfluids/the.htm
yeah id be glad to know im not 60% bear poo
just to be sure
small can you source your info ?
ty
3rd-7th grade science class.
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