So my friend left his eletric guitar over here, I can't play for anything but I started picking up on one song and playing it REALLY LOUD. I got this odd feeling like someone was watching me I turned around casually and saw a white cloud for a split second, my vision seemed to be blurred a bit for another second. I simply laughed at myself and said it was all in my head.

I began to play louder and louder, then I felt something building up like anger, I ignored it saying it was in my head. All of a sudden my cabinet door right next to me (that my ouija board is kept in) busted open. I got this huge rush of heat feeling and felt like I couldn't move. Fear hit me a second later like a ton of bricks, I dropped the guitar and ran into my living room. I saw wierd things like flashing lights and the curtains moved at one point (all the windows in the house are closed)

I was home alone at this time, I few hours later my mom got hom and I built up the courage to sit in my room and try auto-writing that I have learned. It worked right away and the first thing I got was a 6... and i stopped. If you been following my last story this ghost that is "stalking" me loves to say 666 all the damn time.

I dunno wtf is going on I wish I could say its all in my head but It doesn't seem to be working. It seems like the more I ignore it the worse it gets. The more I pay attention nothing extreme happens.

The ghost doesn't like being ignored or just doesn't like loud music. I don't know dude, I already said how I feel about Ouija boards. This is something you'll have to deal with or try to get rid of yourself. I wish you a lot of luck!

I agree with you Unique.

BattleRoyalex: if you can not play a guitar, way all of the sudden play it loud? By nature, if you can't play, you play soft so that get get the coordination first. I don't get it.

can someone to try to come up with reasonable explanations or parnormal explanations? This is really getting irritating I thought the thing was gone, maybe I brought it back trying automatic writing?

I got the whole intro to the song and its real easy to play and sounds better louder. Also I was pretty bored. I guess I might of been testing myself when I felt anger, maybe little satan worshiping derek doesn't like my loud music :rolls eyes: lol Also, I think eletric guitar uses magnetics to play the chords, I dunno much about music I just listen. Can anyone confirm that?

Here I’ll explain it in simple terms. You play with Ouija board, call on ghost and ghost decides to become your buddy. So now you stuck with ghost, unless you up some money for someone to get rid of ghost and some people you have to watch out for because they are fakes!

Oh for the love of all that is natural!

Seriously man, I have seen precisely this sort of reaction before.

First off, I don't know you, you don't know me - in ALL seriousness, did the cabinet REALLY *bust* open, the doors flying outward, etc? Answer honestly.

On the rare off chance that something unusual IS happening to you, its likely minor poltergeist activity - which means its YOU (your unconscious at least), not some disembodied devil-worshipping spook. I can't even BEGIN to tell you how ridiculous this Name-Not-To-Be-Named Hypothesis is, on a number of levels.

First off, talk this all over with a friend - a skeptical one if you have one - if not, any will work - do NOT get yourselves MORE excited than you already are. Don't be frivolous but don't let it alter your mood - just like in normal life, the only power people have over us is the power we agree to give them.

Take time to meditate on YOURSELF and your OWN intents, your good and bad sides. Not blame, not praise, not shame - simply look at yourself honestly, at what you would like to change, what you are proud of and give yourself credit for, the bad things you have done that you wish you hadn't, the things you didn't do that you wish you had, your wishes for the future, your real intent as a person and also what goals you might accomplish in the paranormal field. Understand and accept your flaws and dark side, desires, destructive, unhealthy thoughts - realize that although they exist, they are PART of YOU, you have control over them and can work on changing and eliminating them, they do not control you, they do not frighten you and you are your own willful person with the ability to make decisions on what urges and impulses you act, and which you will NOT act on.

Get or prepare a bottle or vial of Holy Water. If you don't have access to any "normal" Holy Water, this can be done using whatever religion or method you prefer and normal tap water (though some think spring water is best) - some people like doing this in direct sunlight and moonlight, infusing the water and ritual with the radiant energy. Simply intone a beneficial prayer and consecrate the water, such as:

"Bless and dedicate this water in the light of truth, goodwill, love, nature, healing, protection, wisdom and divine grace." Some people like to put rose hips or petals and sea salt in the water also, as extra cleansing and protective and calming components.

If/when you use the board next time, perform an "exorcism". Have a camera with a flash or other very bright light present. Exorcisms (called "Advancements" to reduce the ominous tone) don't have to be the super-involved crap you see in the media - if/when this entity pops up, use the flash or light, use creative visualization and invoke a simple Advancement ritual.

Use some of the standard protection and cleansing rituals and visualizations, such as the White Light of Protection, as well as the Centering and Purification exercise. Consider an informal Smudging ritual if you can get access to a suitable feather and incense, and say a little prayer over yourself, the room and the board.

"I accept myself as I am, I have a dark side with unwise and destructive emotions and ideas, but I am also a good person, with virtue and goodwill and natural, healthy curiosity and desire to learn and gain wisdom and understand myself and the world around me. I am in control of my own will and fate, I make my own decisions and choose how I behave, what affects me and what doesn't - I am a wholly integrated person able to use all of my being, positive and negative, as resources, in the ways I feel necessary and right."

"You are not welcome as an entity and I refuse to acknowledge your existance or give you any more power, and in fact I retract all power and influence I have given you, and reclaim it as my own vital energy - you are forbidden to have it and are powerless to prevent this."

At this point, use creative visualization for the White Light of Protection and use the light again, as a visual aid.

"See the brilliant Divine Light of Love and Healing. There is only peace and comfort and love within it, it is your home, your destiny - you are part of it and you cannot deny it. Feel the warmth of its radiance, remember and realize the peace and relief from stress and anger and negativity. The Light is your Answer, do not fear it - you will be nurtured and healed and made whole again - now you must enter the Light and leave your pain and unrest behind. Love and peace be with you."

Follow with any other rituals or prayers you feel appropriate.

ummm....well the white cloud that you saw couldve just been something in your eye and blurred your vision? maybe?
but dude, you gotta stop playin with Ouija boards!!!

THANK YOU!! SOMEONE AGREES WITH ME!

well if no one was home it really wouldnt matter (take it from a guitarist) in regards to the guy who started it... something similar has happened to me, i believe it is called mass hysteria just without the mass. it is merely the brain inflicting damge upon our own bodies because it believes that this is happening. Whenever i am home alone i listen carefully to everything, just to make sure no one is sneaking in, alien invasion, etc... anyway by playing your guitar really loud it blurred your sense of hearing therefore allowing your brain to believe that something could happer at this time. when you jerked your head around quickly, you probably saw a light distortion caused by the rapid head movement. in seeing this and by being home alone your brain told you that something bad was happening. if i am correct (this is what happened to me anyway) i could not move at all and my vision sort of blacked out. i also started sweating slightly. it was quite scary

PS what do you mean by this autotyping thing and the numbers 666?

jpatt........you really shouldn't state your opinions as though they are facts. The claim that he opened the cabinet using his own brain power is nothing more than theory and opinion.
The same could be said for the ghost aspect as well of course, so really, at this point neither view can be stated as fact.

Anyways yeah, I checked the cabinet out in detail and it has magnets to hold it shut, If theres weight against the door the pressure builds up and the cabinet pops open, a box in there could of slid down a bit from the vibrations of the guitar and popped the door open, The rest could be in my head.

Case Solved

Thank you BattleroyaleX. Very good quick example of intuitive detectivework. I applaud you, and thank you for your open-mindedness. =)

And I am SO tired of people telling me I shouldn't state my opinion as fact

I do NOT know where people come up with this defensiveness and use it as a means to take exception, but the last time I checked, this was a discussion forum - I think we can pretty much all agree that everything posted is someone's opinion. At no time did I make any claims of fact nor cite bilbliographies where these "facts" can be scientifically verified in the Library of Congress.

I will NOT preface EVERY damn post with "In my opinion..." - if people that post on paranormal forums lack the sense to take this as a given, I am not going to mollycoddle them; I'm not their Mommy, I didn't take them to raise- they can accept everything I state as absolute gospel as far as I'm concerned, maybe they'll learn something - like how to develop critical thinking and not assume everything said by someone with an air of confidence and personal conviction is absolutely objective factual truth.

But since we're moderating the forums for people who don't make it clear that they're stating their opinions, you might want to check out all the "X-kinesis" and Ouija Board threads - I think there are some statements made in some of these threads which some of the posters are asserting are fact and not just their bulls*** regurgitation of things they've heard.

so nothing really happened here?

Good call BattleRoyaleX! I'm glad you were able to solve that puzzle. I know from my own experiences in my home that when there is unexplainable, possibly paranormal activity in your home it can be easy to start thinking every odd thing that happens is related to that activity. It's good that you are able to keep an open mind to every possibility.




Well, I've been told!!
It's not that your theories have no validity, or are not worthy of further study. Of course they are. But, perhaps it is the combination of expressing yourself intelligently and stating your opinions as absolutes that could be confusing to new readers/posters here on UM. Those of us who have been around awhile know you are expressing an opinion.....newcomers might not and may take your statements as fact. What if someone is in what could be a very dangerous situation (as in possible evil entity) for which they need to seek help, but end up thinking it's all coming from their own mind and so poses no threat? Just my opinion of course.

BattleRoyaleX,

Have you ever been tested for seizures? I say this because some of what you describe as feeling and seeing are symptoms of seizure activity. A seizure doesn't necessarily mean that you fall on the ground and start shaking. Seizure activity can often be mistaken as supernatural-like experiences (sensations of wind blowing, rushes, and whatnot). Your blurred vision at the start of it generally occurs before the onset of a seizure. The feeling of being paralyzed, odd sensations, flashing lights, and hallucination--all symptoms of a seizure.

If it happens again, take note of the symptoms and share them with your doctor. Sooner if you have (non-alcohol related) episodes of "lost time" (where you find time has passed and you don't realize it and have been doing nothing).

I again applaud BattleRoyalX's willingness to look for a rational explanation, and also Battleangel's offering of possible medical symptoms which should be looked into if they do seem to coincide with the OP's conditions.




And if a newcomer sees this type of post and takes this as fact and decides there are such things as "evil entities" because you posted it as fact? What if this is someone with a mental condition who needs to seek medical and emotional help, sees a post like this and ignores their condition because they decide it "must be spirits"?

Your posts are misguided and closed-minded, presuming that there ARE indeed "evil entities" and anyone else who states differently are merely stating their "opinion", as though yours has some sort of magical validity. I do not accept your claim of spirits and refute it and that IS something I'm stating as fact, so there's no misunderstanding.

There are plenty of people on here who claim to be mediums, alien abductees, geniuses - all stating their opinion as fact (again, this includes you) - yet for reasons as yet unknown to me, I was the sacrificial lamb for your example, while you leave these people to post all kinds of nonsense freely. Have you seen Rosemary Campbell's posts? I didn't see you warn her - so you accept everything she says as fact, correct?

Your ego and perception is coloring your opinion of what is and is not "proper" to post here, apparently for you, objectivity can be dismissed for this alleged "greater good of the newbie". I'm 32 years old and am an administrator or moderator on four different forums and have been for over five years, so you're teaching your grandmother how to suck eggs as far as forum etiquette goes. There is a PM function which you could have used to contact me and discuss this without threadcrapping, but you chose instead of attempt to publicly chastise me, at the expense of hijacking BattleRoyalX's entire topic, which is irresponsible and petty and shouldn't be done by people who have used forums for any amount of time.

Now, are we finished instructing each other how to use the forums and ready to turn the thread back over to BattleRoyalX and the ACTUAL topic at hand?

Personally, I would find it infinitely more comfortable if people were to look at other possibilities and eliminating them before jumping to conclusions that it is some kind of spirit activity. Mind you, I think that ghosts probably do exist but not every weird event equates to ghostly activity. It's important to look for other causes, especially if they are health related. Thinking that it is paranormal activity right off the bat simply puts oneself potentially at risk. It's best to look at all explanations and eliminate them, one by one. The if it is a spirit, you can be certain of it.

Hey, isn't that what Ghosthunters do? lol

Actually, if you were to read back through Rosemary's thread you would find that indeed I did suggest she seek medical help, a few times. I would also like to point out that never once did I say you should not make posts on your favourite topic. And the only person doing any chastising is you. Enough said.




I agree wholeheartedly. Contrary to what some seem to think I've said as much on numerous occasions here on UM. It's important I think to always look for any possible non-paranormal explanations first, and then if nothing else fits it may be paranormal in nature. BRX did a good job of doing that with the cabinet incident. Some people who post here get quite angry if someone suggests medical attention for something, such as for example, seeing flashes of light. But BRX has kept an open mind and that's great!

I think that it takes an act of bravery to come onto any messageboard and share something that people might respond to negatively. I do think that this is part of the reason why a medical explanation may not be what people feel like they want to hear. Hearing that what one saw/felt/heard/smelled could be something funky going on with your brain could be a nice way of saying "dude, you're crazy". lol In reality, the brain can do some pretty weird things (I have MS, I should know... ) that we would never imagine it doing that simply do not equate to a mental illness type of issue. Anyways, I think that's why the upset.

O sh**...maybe thats when its time to say bye bye Ouija board...

Ok I was gonna let this thread die out but I wanted to clear up a few things.

I DO NOT have any medical conditions at all. Just because I see a flash of light or something doesn't mean its a medical condition. Odly enough I get a medical condition when I start to use the ouija board? Or I found out I might have one because of the ouija board? I think not. I think you people are jumping to huge conlusions just like I did with the cabinet. I don't think its right to jump to the conlusion that someone has a medical condition. I think saying that can just be led to believe that it's scarcasm and not taking as a serious response.

1. Could be lack of sleep
2. Could be your mind playing tricks on you
3. Medical Condition
4. Even could be the paranormal

I had alot of freaky stuff happen this past week and I believe at least 20% of it was not in my head. When you have something that your mind thinks is abnormal happen to you it tends to freak you out. From that point on your mind and yourself is on edge. This is what I think that causes the sub-conscious to play a role in what you see/hear.

Ok I'm done hear, Try not to take this post offensively. I just goto alot of threads and see people pointing out medical conditions before anything else and it seems like a bash in the face to me.

Battleroyal,

I know that you're upset and I can understand that. Just let me tell you one story to give you something to think about. It's a true story. I had a friend who started having what she thought was a paranormal experience. She described it as feeling like the wind was rushing through her and she could see flashing lights. She finally talked to a doctor about it and after much testing, she was diagnosed with epilepsy. What she had thought was paranormal activity was petit mal seizures.

I know the last thing that anybody wants to hear is that there could be something wrong with them. I know because I have MS and getting diagnosed with it was one of the worst things that has happened to me. The thing is, most people have some kind of health problem. Nobody is perfect, really. When I first read your description of events, the first thing that caught my attention was the blurred vision at the intro. Why? Because that happens to me. I started having seizures 9 years ago. I wasn't born with it either and I haven't had one in at least 4 years. All I'm suggesting is that you get checked out to make sure that everything is okay. Better to do that and find out its nothing than to ignore it and find yourself in worse trouble.

Take care.

I'd like to make an explanation at least from MY perspective for the tendancy to look for mundane reasons for all the experiences people have.

Yes its not so much that this is the snap assumption, but when there ARE people that HAVE had similar experiences, or have come up with medical results as findings of their investigations, they share this so that these types of things can be eliminated FIRST, which is of two-fold use because the people having the experiences MAY need medical or psychological attention.

We're all just human, and there are a lot of obscure "natural" things that happen that most of us have no idea of. As smart as I'd like to think I am, I am sure that some of the things I've seen could be discounted by a pure skeptic, just as much as I discount some of the more spirit-based ideas as errant psi abilities or medical conditions.

Now, if I had to pick a category, am actively agnostic (agnostic meaning "not knowing"), meaning I have a basic belief in a certain ... cosmic sentience, or "God", if you will, but more as the naturally existing "life" of the Universe itself, rather than a particular entity that consciously keeps track of this and that - I think its more of an "organic" harmony and reactive force and resource, which religions and philosophies interpret differently. I doubt we'll ever know with any certainty what "God" is, if he/she/it exists, etc

This is why I consider myself agnostic - I'm just not sure how it will all come out in the wash and I'm under no impression that I'm right, nor do I think anyone else is necessarily right. BUT - I do have my belief system which I live by and which guides me well enough that I consider it as valid an interpretation as anyone else's. However, owing to this "skeptical faith" I possess, I am also much more humble in my understanding of my place and that of Man, in the Universe - how little any of us, even our greatest minds, know about ultimate reality and how the Universe functions at the subtle level - our science is still in its infancy - this ALSO makes me much more skeptical on other people who may not have experienced and researched some of these things as much as *I* have, claiming they experienced this or that just because they may not know about "ball lightning" or sleep paralysis, etc.

I realize that there are a lot of things that happen in everyday life which baffle me and which some people would peg as obviously "unnatural" - but I also know that I am NOT terribly intelligent in the ways of the function of the cosmos, etc. and the reason we HAVE experts in different fields is because its impossible to know a LOT about MANY subjects at once

So if I see something in the sky I don't recognize, even with my research, I'm inclined to say its a plane or a weather balloon or experimental aircraft, before I think its "aliens" - because I am not an aeronautical engineer, pilot, etc. When I see figures in hallways, hear sounds upstairs, have things spontaneously fall off shelves, etc. I COULD say "Whoah, it must be a spirit!" or even think its "errant psi abilities" - but I can ALSO say "Well, I wasn't paying attention, that could have been unbalanced for days" and "I'm very tired, I wear glasses and have floaters, that 'figure' was likely just my own eyelash", etc.

And the same with medical conditions - I have been fatigued and anxious and have had "dark" thoughts for almost a year now, I feel oppressed and such. But I don't think I'm plagued, cursed, I don't think I have any "demons" invisibly hanging around my neck. It got so bad I went to the hospital and got diagnosed with Chronic Depression and am now on 40mg of Prozac and I feel like its STILL not enough. This explanation is mundane and verifiable and in most cases, things like this are treatable and understandable, etc. Now if it turned out I tested absolutely FINE - I would have been very surprised and began to look for less orthodox explanations - but I didn't. But if I had, I would have KNOWN I had eliminated medical and psychological and natural alternative possibilities for my condition.

Its more or less the Sherlock Holmes directive: "After eliminating all other possibilities, whatever remains, however improbable, is the solution". Because when you have big floating transparent phantasm of a Bigfoot piloting a UFO with telekinesis, and you're witnessing it along with the President, a doctor, a pilot, a zoologist, a hypnotist, a psychiatrist, a physicist and a priest, you can REALLY being to say to yourself "Ho-Lee CRAP! That's not swamp gas, delerium or a wild monkey!"

Also I'd like to apologize to BattleRoyalX and everyone else in this thread, including Earthchick, whom I have nothing against. I still disagree with her perception and reasoning but there was no reason for me to react the way I did - but I had JUST been told the EXACT same thing on the Obiwan forums not a week before, with the exact same reasoning and (to me) entirely fictional claim of me "stating my opinion as fact" and worrying about newbies. I stand by my logic and defense, on both forums, but it wasn't worth arguing about.

I'm sorry you feel that way. No one here said you actually do have a medical problem. Personally, I know it is never a bash in the face when someone suggests a possible medical cause.....especially if they have had such an experience themselves. In such a case I would feel irresponsible if I didn't say something. Rest assured that making other suggestions doesn't mean anyone is ruling out real paranormal activity. Take it from someone who has had a lot of activity in her home that was and is experienced by my entire family, all of which has no explanation, medical or otherwise......even though I often suggest checking out other possibilities I definitely do believe in the paranormal. I do hope you will continue to update us on your experiences as I think we are all quite interested.




It's OK. I guess we can simply agree to disagree.

I was going to say.....Magic Mushrooms & Bass vibrations....but he solved already!