Rota
Jan 31 2006, 12:05 AM
When I first heard of this I thought it was just rubbish but after reading a few articles about it there seems to be some good reasons why this could be true. I think it's still probably not true but will continue to read any article I find on it to see if anything can be proved.
http://www.crystalinks.com/hollowearth.html
The Skeptic Eric Raven
Jan 31 2006, 12:25 AM
QUOTE(Rota @ Jan 30 2006, 06:05 PM) [snapback]1041954[/snapback]
When I first heard of this I thought it was just rubbish but after reading a few articles about it there seems to be some good reasons why this could be true. I think it's still probably not true but will continue to read any article I find on it to see if anything can be proved.
http://www.crystalinks.com/hollowearth.htmlRubbish is right. This is the craziest of the out there theories.
artymoon
Jan 31 2006, 12:38 AM
Heck the center of the earth could be filled with sugar
Doubtful, but you never know.
ShaunZero
Feb 1 2006, 06:03 AM
We won't know untill we go down there. =)
TheGreatWhiteHorse
Feb 1 2006, 06:48 AM
I will tell you two things it is assuredly NOT filled with...
Alien cities and escaped Nazis in flying saucers.
(which happen to be two of the prevailing hollow-earth theories)
Glacies
Feb 1 2006, 06:49 AM
QUOTE(artymoon @ Jan 30 2006, 04:38 PM) [snapback]1041994[/snapback]
Heck the center of the earth could be filled with sugar
Doubtful, but you never know.
Yay! Sugar cookies for everyone!
(crazy theory....people with too much free time on their hands...)
Moro
Feb 1 2006, 06:57 AM
QUOTE(Glacies @ Feb 1 2006, 01:49 AM) [snapback]1043782[/snapback]
Yay! Sugar cookies for everyone!
(crazy theory....people with too much free time on their hands...)
Seriously though!
There might be deep and probably huge caverns in the earth!
But to sat there is whole different race with a sun in the middle earth sounds to far fetched!
Are you reading out of J.R.R. Tolkiens Middle Earth Novel or something?
Sheesh give me a break! Thinking like this is even out of my range.
capeo
Feb 1 2006, 06:12 PM
Nope, no Nazi's in there.
M.A.D
Feb 6 2006, 09:49 PM
is it hollow earth or middle earth your talking about
StalingradK
Feb 7 2006, 12:13 AM
deep huge caverns.... yeah we have those. But if you're thinking like... the movie the Core... With like a completely hollow space.... no.
Rykster
Feb 7 2006, 12:35 AM
I think I will set forth a new hypothosis.
"The Hollow Head"
There seems to be enough evidence to support it.
SoLLiZ
Feb 7 2006, 12:37 AM
lmao, maybe there are aliens in there to
Rykster
Feb 7 2006, 12:38 AM
QUOTE(SoLLiZ @ Feb 6 2006, 07:37 PM) [snapback]1051377[/snapback]
lmao, maybe there are aliens in there to
I think that is where most of them actually come from.
Egyptian Shadow Dragon
Feb 7 2006, 12:54 AM
lol! maybe there is no sun in the earth, so maybe there are vampires living inside the earth! They come up every few thousand years to feed, or drag humans down into the rocky dephs! LOL!!!
Rykster
Feb 7 2006, 12:56 AM
QUOTE(Egyptian Shadow Dragon @ Feb 6 2006, 07:54 PM) [snapback]1051399[/snapback]
dephs! LOL!!!
It would have been easier to start a garden.
Engulf
Feb 7 2006, 04:44 AM
People, still remember when the world laughed at a spherical Earth as they wholly believed it is flat? Hmm...
angrycrustacean
Feb 7 2006, 04:49 AM
QUOTE(Engulf @ Feb 6 2006, 09:44 PM) [snapback]1051679[/snapback]
People, still remember when the world laughed at a spherical Earth as they wholly believed it is flat? Hmm...


True, but our science is advanced enough to know that the mass of the Earth could only be achieved by having a solid center. That said, there's no reason to believe that it is constructed like it is commonly shown in diagrams, since we still have no concrete proof.
And for the record, there were a few individuals in ancient history who figured out the world was round.
Engulf
Feb 7 2006, 04:58 AM
QUOTE(TheGreatWhiteHorse @ Feb 1 2006, 06:48 AM) [snapback]1043781[/snapback]
I will tell you two things it is assuredly NOT filled with...
Alien cities and escaped Nazis in flying saucers.
(which happen to be two of the prevailing hollow-earth theories)
Wrong, those two were supposedly 'strong' arguments for the theory, but not prevailing. We're still looking at seismic models and attempting to explain why there are certain anomalies exhibited as though the planet is 'hollow' to allow it to flow through. Although it could well not be substantial for a hollow Earth theory, but we're still in the middle of it.
The Venus anomaly seen during the last one decade ago also provided question marks when an observatory witnessed 'lights' emitting from 'within' the planet and shining out into space at both poles like a lantern. They quickly thought that it could be some atmospheric event unknown to us from the collision of surface and 'interior' chemical compounds of the air. Still no direct conclusion.
Another would also be via the Tibetan links, whereby high monks would enter another 'realm' to learn in their final lesson. People said it is hollow earth argument, others say it's an inter-dimensional portal. No conclusions.
And your alien cities claim is inaccurate, it is not hollow earth but rather sub-terranean world. Hollow earth is with a supposedly 'sun' and entire new earth-like world in there, whereas sub-terranean could mean underground bases or cities that is structured at certain vital points of tectonic boundaries and mountain ridges. Again, no direct conclusions.
Nazis at Antarctica although had some apparently good explanations, still I'm a little sceptical or careful about the approach. This Neu-Shwarbenland could be a massive hoax perpetrated by the Nazis as a final move to continue its doctrines. Remote-viewers have provided with appropriate details about this. But yet again, no physical proof, up to your minds to decide.
Engulf
Feb 7 2006, 05:07 AM
QUOTE(angrycrustacean @ Feb 7 2006, 04:49 AM) [snapback]1051685[/snapback]

True, but our science is advanced enough to know that the mass of the Earth could only be achieved by having a solid center. That said, there's no reason to believe that it is constructed like it is commonly shown in diagrams, since we still have no concrete proof.
And for the record, there were a few individuals in ancient history who figured out the world was round.
Hello there,
How sure are you that we do have the adequate scientific knowledge and technology in order to substantiate your claims? I'm here not stating or arguing that the planet is hollow for sure because I'm an earth science student myself, hope you know what I'm saying. But we cannot be definitive as to preach how far of an advancement we're already having to be knowing our planet fully. Do we have satellites that go beyond our normal wavelength scans and see other materials being emitted by our planet? Difficult to say. Do we have say other means of viewing the other dimensions of our planet from space? Nope, but it is certainly a big prospect and I'm waiting here.
What if we tune in to a very much smaller length and pick up something else that we cannot once have seen with our currently advanced tools? Ain't it a new discovery? Be open people, our perception is all the time clouded with mysteries because we're still in the learning progress. But of course, more to come from our technology.
Lessons from the past have thought us well people, be open and continue to search for answers. We're surrounded with Infinitism, and things don't just stop right there for all of us when we compare how old are we, and how old is the Cosmos.

PS: Oh yes, you're correct. Monsieur Nostradamus was one of them, but dead silenced on his tracks by the Inquisition. Compare that old situation with the current situation if and only IF, the hollow earth theory is correct. Aren't we having some people who also believed that our planet now is indeed hollow? Two different scenarios with a same concept aih mate?
Engulf
Feb 7 2006, 05:13 AM
QUOTE(Glacies @ Feb 1 2006, 06:49 AM) [snapback]1043782[/snapback]
Yay! Sugar cookies for everyone!
(crazy theory....people with too much free time on their hands...)
Excuse me I beg your pardon, you're calling Sir Edmund Halley and Leonhard Eueller time-wasters too? Halley did an analysis completely different from Newton's Earth model and proposed a full-scale research on possible hollow concentric shells interacting within our planet. As for Leonhard Eueller, possibly the best mathematician ever existed in our history, calculated and concluded that our planet was indeed hollow and is a believer of it until he was dead.
So nope, I'm not saying that with that, the hollow earth theory is finally proven, but please pay kind respects to our former great scientists who have 'wasted' their free time to change how science use to look, and how it is right now.
Pedey
Feb 7 2006, 05:59 AM
If the earth was hollow, we would be DEAD.
Ok if it was hollow we would loose our magnetic poles, which protect us form the suns rays or somthing, now if we aren't protected them our oceans would begin to disappear from the sun annnd all life on earth would be dead, hoorah.
if you tihnk the earth is really hollow, you truly have a hollow head.
hahahahaha what a stupid theory...it's not even a theory, more like crap
Engulf
Feb 7 2006, 09:15 AM
QUOTE(Pedey @ Feb 7 2006, 05:59 AM) [snapback]1051754[/snapback]
If the earth was hollow, we would be DEAD.
Ok if it was hollow we would loose our magnetic poles, which protect us form the suns rays or somthing, now if we aren't protected them our oceans would begin to disappear from the sun annnd all life on earth would be dead, hoorah.
if you tihnk the earth is really hollow, you truly have a hollow head.
hahahahaha what a stupid theory...it's not even a theory, more like crap
I think I finally come to realize that the real meaning of the hollow earth theory is not planet earth being hollow, but the inhabitants' perception of their minds on its surface rather. With people making this sort of conclusive, abusive and short-term minded speeches are well worthy of that theory I just mentioned above.
Under what circumstances can you scientifically prove that we would indeed be losing both our magnetic poles if or once the planet is hollow? I see, is it because since it's hollow then we must definitely lose both our icecaps and therefore lose our magnetic poles too?

Can you please lay out in detail how would say if our planet is hollow would the normal planet's electro-magnetic field's outlook would be distorted as to totally vanished in which you've just stated? How definitive are you that we only stand on a truly one standard electro-magnetic structure as shown and widely accepted in our textbooks?
The point here is we will never know although it is without doubt accepted in our scientific community right now via the scientific method (which has its inconsistencies once ran through), but mind you do you know how many mistakes we've done in the past to come to our now science? Talk about convectional currents within our planet about 200 years ago, they'll call you stupid alongside your theory too. But here we are standing on the tectonic theories which explain our lithosphere and asthenosphere. But how sure are we that our planet formed because of this convectional theory, water vapor released and forming our oceans billions of years ago? We'll never know, but we're trying no doubt. AND now there's already a new proposed idea stating that the tectonic theory does not explain certain anomalies in our earth and if say proven right, the entire theory can just go down the toilet sink.
C'mon humanity, you call yourselves intelligent and this is as far as you can go? There's much more man, the centuries old perception of our reality (look at the standard model and trust by it, shun the rest) must come to an end and we must be open-minded in our approach in science, which of course it was suppose to be that way in the first place. What truth you see today might be tomorrow's false people. Why? Because we're all still researching and learning, and we must keep this up than just be happy with something and suck on that for the next few thousands years.
Rykster
Feb 7 2006, 09:38 AM
QUOTE(Engulf @ Feb 7 2006, 04:15 AM) [snapback]1051826[/snapback]
lose both our icecaps and therefore lose our magnetic poles too?
Our magnetic core is the caused by the molten iron
core of th Earth. The Earth is technically not "solid" as the center
is molten. Beyond that...
Protoplanetary discs do not accrete into hollow spheres under either Newtonian or Einsteinian physics. They accrete into solid spheres.
C'mon people. There are
real mysteries to be solved out there. Use those wonderful imaginations to do something relevant like inventing "faster than light" space vessels.
ShaunZero
Feb 7 2006, 11:49 AM
How exactly do we know that the Earth is layered like an onion is something I wonder. We have only made a penprick on the surface.
Rykster
Feb 7 2006, 11:54 AM
QUOTE(ZeroShadow @ Feb 7 2006, 06:49 AM) [snapback]1051897[/snapback]
How exactly do we know
GPR
Anyone here heard of that?
There are myriad studys that show the true structure of the Earth. The hollow Earth conjecture is simply that. Conjecture.
Gee whiz - this isn't rocket science or neurosurgery.
Knightmeir
Feb 7 2006, 06:02 PM
Wow...
The two most widely argued stories are that aliens and nazis live in the center. I've never seen anything about monks or anything, regarding this cute little hollow earth theory.
It's been discussed before. A 600 miles "sun" wouldn't be able to exist. IF a sun were in the center of the earth, I believe tidal forces from the moon would probably cause some problems for the poor heroes living inside, eh? Not to mention, they wouldn't have anything to protect them from the UV rays. Those of us less fortunate non-nazis stuck on the surface have the protection of an atmosphere.
As for scientists, etc... knowing the makeup of the earth's guts, I'd like to state this point: Humans are able to figure out what a distant planet's atmosphere is made up of, even though we haven't stepped foot there, but some would argue that we're too stupid and not advanced enough to understand how our own planet works?
If the earth is truly hollow with gaping holes at the poles, where are the pictures? I've read so many of these conspiracy theorists say that the pictures are being doctored. But why is it that only a couple of people claim to have been there? What about an expedition? If the governments of the world are trying to cover it up, they'd be stopping EVERYONE from going anywhere near the poles. NEVER have I heard of this happening.
There is not a single piece of evidence to prove the truth of this theory. There's a satellite photoe I've seen of a dark spot around the north pole, which was elapsed I believe... and that was caused by the tilt of the earth so there's no sunlight on that spot for something like 6 months. They were arguing that it was proof that the friggin holes exist! If that were the case, the hole would not have been black, but there would have been a glor emitting from it because of the sun inside! Oh hecky darn!
Yeah, some ideas are crazy to people. People thought is was crazy to say the earth was round... however, there's a line between logical theory, and fanatical, overimaginative stupidity that leads people away from truths.
capeo
Feb 7 2006, 07:09 PM
This study in 95 was pretty conclusive that the geodynamo theory is correct. Thus no hollow earth (there's a million other common sense reasons to but I digress...)
http://www.psc.edu/science/Glatzmaier/glatzmaier.html
Rykster
Feb 7 2006, 07:19 PM
Thank you all.
Can we now put this to rest?
Immortal Norway
Feb 7 2006, 07:36 PM
I`ve looked at the sitelink that that guy who started this topic (i think he was callen Didi ore something?) and there it standed that there was a theory that there were some paces into the ounderearthempire spread all over the Earth, but i think that side has forgoten one of the passes: THE ONE HERE IN MY HOMEVILLAGE!!!
I remember one time when my class was on a trip in a forest nearby and we discovered a deep hole who went right down in the soil.
We couldn`t see the bottom of the hole so we dropped a stoone down in the hole to check how deep it was, but instead of hearing a bang ore a splash ore something like that we heard someone screaming YEAVENUE!!! (Maybe an synonym for au?)
I can`t remember anything more of that, not how we reacted, not what happened after that... (Maybe this is a protect to not be discovered by the human race)
I am the only one left in the class that still can remember something (and i remember less and less for evry day)
Therefore i`m writing this now
YOU HAVE TO TELL THIS TO OTHERONES, THE SECRET CAN`T BE FORGOTEN !!!
capeo
Feb 7 2006, 07:38 PM
QUOTE(Norwegian Phoenix @ Feb 7 2006, 02:36 PM) [snapback]1052290[/snapback]
I`ve looked at the sitelink that that guy who started this topic (i think he was callen Didi ore something?) and there it standed that there was a theory that there were some paces into the ounderearthempire spread all over the Earth, but i think that side has forgoten one of the passes: THE ONE HERE IN MY HOMEVILLAGE!!!
I remember one time when my class was on a trip in a forest nearby and we discovered a deep hole who went right down in the soil.
We couldn`t see the bottom of the hole so we dropped a stoone down in the hole to check how deep it was, but instead of hearing a bang ore a splash ore something like that we heard someone screaming YEAVENUE!!! (Maybe an synonym for au?)
I can`t remember anything more of that, not how we reacted, not what happened after that... (Maybe this is a protect to not be discovered by the human race)
I am the only one left in the class that still can remember something (and i remember less and less for evry day)
Therefore i`m writing this now
YOU HAVE TO TELL THIS TO OTHERONES, THE SECRET CAN`T BE FORGOTEN !!!
Alrighty, then
angrycrustacean
Feb 7 2006, 07:39 PM
^Sounds like fiction or the ramblings of a senile old man.
What does 'YEAVENUE' mean?
Pax Unum
Feb 8 2006, 01:35 AM
you'd think if the earth was hollow the oceans pressure would break thru and flood it...
newbloodmoon
Feb 8 2006, 01:47 AM
Just a pic to show what hollow earth is supposed to look like. Not that I am supporting this theory by posting this pic, I figure it is something noteworty to add to this discussiion.
Pax Unum
Feb 8 2006, 02:11 AM
how can plate tektonics, and irrefutable plate movement like the San Andreas fault work if the earth is hollow?...
Immortal Norway
Feb 8 2006, 11:14 AM
Amgrycrustacen, the thruth is that i don`t know what yacenue mean, but i know what i heard.
Also i`m not old (i`m infact an teenager) and i`m not senile eighter.
But, still i really ounderstand that you are sceptice (i would have been that to).
Immortal Norway
Feb 8 2006, 11:16 AM
Soory, i writed wrong it should stand yavenue
Rykster
Feb 8 2006, 11:19 AM
QUOTE(angrycrustacean @ Feb 7 2006, 02:39 PM) [snapback]1052297[/snapback]
What does 'YEAVENUE' mean?
The street one lives one? "Ye Avenue"
Immortal Norway
Feb 8 2006, 11:25 AM
Sorry i think i`ve writed your name wrong to off courese it should stand angrycrustacen.
(Sorry, but I`m not feeling realy good to day)
And since i`m allready writing something i`d like to say that if there realy live`s people ounder the Earths surface why haven`t they contacted us yet?
Knightmeir
Feb 8 2006, 03:24 PM
QUOTE(Norwegian Phoenix @ Feb 7 2006, 01:36 PM) [snapback]1052290[/snapback]
I`ve looked at the sitelink that that guy who started this topic (i think he was callen Didi ore something?) and there it standed that there was a theory that there were some paces into the ounderearthempire spread all over the Earth, but i think that side has forgoten one of the passes: THE ONE HERE IN MY HOMEVILLAGE!!!
I remember one time when my class was on a trip in a forest nearby and we discovered a deep hole who went right down in the soil.
We couldn`t see the bottom of the hole so we dropped a stoone down in the hole to check how deep it was, but instead of hearing a bang ore a splash ore something like that we heard someone screaming YEAVENUE!!! (Maybe an synonym for au?)
I can`t remember anything more of that, not how we reacted, not what happened after that... (Maybe this is a protect to not be discovered by the human race)
I am the only one left in the class that still can remember something (and i remember less and less for evry day)
Therefore i`m writing this now
YOU HAVE TO TELL THIS TO OTHERONES, THE SECRET CAN`T BE FORGOTEN !!!
QUOTE(Norwegian Phoenix @ Feb 8 2006, 05:14 AM) [snapback]1053222[/snapback]
Amgrycrustacen, the thruth is that i don`t know what yacenue mean, but i know what i heard.
Also i`m not old (i`m infact an teenager) and i`m not senile eighter.
But, still i really ounderstand that you are sceptice (i would have been that to).
I wouldn't even call myself a skeptic in this case. Skeptics have doubts. I don't have any on this issue. Hollow earth = Steaming Pile of Bovine Fecal Matter
THE SECRET CAN'T BE FORGOTTEN? What in the blue hell are you talking about? As far as someone yelling from inside that hole you mentioned, I think you're full of it. (see above reference to "Hollow Earth"). Go take a picture of this alleged hole in the ground, post it.
Immortal Norway
Feb 8 2006, 03:53 PM
Knightmeir As i writed the hole is in a forest (and norwegian forestes are very deep) and just finding the hole would take days. (and also it `s long time ago it`s possible that someone in my class only was joking)
Rykster
Feb 8 2006, 03:57 PM
QUOTE(Norwegian Phoenix @ Feb 7 2006, 02:36 PM) [snapback]1052290[/snapback]
so we dropped a stoone down in the hole to check how deep it was, but instead of hearing a bang ore a splash ore something like that we heard someone screaming YEAVENUE!!!
Heh.. Our first contact with another race and what do we do? Drop a rock on its head.
Priceless!
Immortal Norway
Feb 8 2006, 04:21 PM
I`d like to say it wasn`t i who dropped the rock and beside this is long time (it was when i was 8). Beside 4 years have gone and they hasn`t taken any revenge (yet).
newbloodmoon
Feb 8 2006, 04:37 PM
Perhaps a hollow earth condo timeshare salesman has allready tried to contact the surface world and we just thought of it as a hoax. Which brings me to another subject that is semi-related. Has anyone heard the audio tape of the russian hole that is supposedly linked directly to hell and the sounds of souls being tormented had been recorded?
In all actuality it sounded like a bunch of people having fun at a public swimming pool.
Byuu94
Feb 8 2006, 04:49 PM
The Earth is hollow, Cthulu lives down there in his city of R'lyeh. Soon he will rule the whole Earth.
Oh wait, that was under the Pacific. Never mind.
FrothyDog
Feb 8 2006, 05:14 PM
i can't stress enough just how silly this whole arguement is.
first, the "hollow earth theory" is not a theory. to become a theory, it takes more than just a few vague ideas. it takes hardcore evidence. "hollow earth musings" is more like it.
here's how we know the earth is not hollow, nor is it filled with "love", "nazis", or "aliens".
1. tested functioning geodynamo models
2. the speed of p-waves and s-waves as they travel through the lithosphere
3. plate tectonics
4. lack of aphanitic rocks forming deep within the earth
5. fluid dynamics
besides, at temperatures upwards of 1600 degrees celsius, how would the nazis survive, anyway?
Ciraxis
Feb 8 2006, 05:37 PM
crab people come from the hollow earth.
taste like crab, talk like people
angrycrustacean
Feb 8 2006, 06:26 PM
QUOTE(Norwegian Phoenix @ Feb 8 2006, 09:21 AM) [snapback]1053447[/snapback]
I`d like to say it wasn`t i who dropped the rock and beside this is long time (it was when i was 8). Beside 4 years have gone and they hasn`t taken any revenge (yet).
...so you're 12?
Knightmeir
Feb 8 2006, 07:02 PM
QUOTE(newbloodmoon @ Feb 8 2006, 10:37 AM) [snapback]1053477[/snapback]
Perhaps a hollow earth condo timeshare salesman has allready tried to contact the surface world and we just thought of it as a hoax. Which brings me to another subject that is semi-related. Has anyone heard the audio tape of the russian hole that is supposedly linked directly to hell and the sounds of souls being tormented had been recorded?
In all actuality it sounded like a bunch of people having fun at a public swimming pool.
Yeah... I downloaded that sound clip last year. For whatever reason I decided to do a few google searches on "Hell" and came up with that thing. Was strange.
Immortal Norway
Feb 8 2006, 07:48 PM
Angrycrustacen, since you writed a ? behind of the setting you probobly mean it as a question so the answear is yes.
AtlantisRises
Feb 9 2006, 06:44 AM
If These people truly are so far advanced from us. And if they are worried that we will destroy our world. Then why don't they just come up and wipe us out. or something. This idea is totally ridiculous.
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