lol good job

rofl this is the type of guy that burns witches on the stake!

I find that people who are unhappy and miserable like to make others feel the same by insulting and hurting others purposefully and continously and finding humor in it.

Knightmeir ... That post was awesome!


Is that your 'Indigo intuition' speaking to you?

Yah well I am really happy with my life and I love everyone.
So try not to put me in your findings generalization thx.

I am sorry for having dark humor but that doesnt mean I want to see anyone hurt.
Get real man and buck the f*** up!

Thats an objective outlook on it actually

I wasn't refering to you but rather to the person who has in the past insulted myself and others continously.

But thank you for you kind words....

However you want to put it ...

Oh sorry!!! I just noticed that I insulted him too thats all!

This is what I have been saying all along. I am just saying dont throw the baby out with the bath water! Just because they took of advantage of the idea of global conciousness doesnt mean that it doesnt exist.

It's a common occurrence where you and insults are concerned. I guess it's one of your Indigo traits, huh?

lol your very comment was a insult!

POT, KETTLE, BLACK

Lmao. It was pure observation and not meant as an insult. You must be VERY thin-skinned to take it that way.

Actualy I am thick skinned and I take no offence to what you say but what if I were thin skinned?

2 in a row

I remember you saying in one of your posts (I don't know if it was in this thread) that you are emotional and that was the reason for your rant?

You're not thick-skinned, I'm afraid.

(You're 'points system' has gone down by one point.)


EDIT: By the way, your last post contradicted the one before.

Hehe I enjoy defending myself! Keep attacking me!

Just because someone is emotional doesnt mean they arnt capable of dealing with their emotions. Just because I am emotional doesnt mean I get upset when people call bad names. Being emotional lets be intouch and because of that I am able to control them to a degree.

All my friends and family would describe me as one of the thickest skinned people they know.

Who are you to judge if I am thick or thin skinned?
In reality all you have is some words on a screen.
If you knew me you wouldnt say I was thin skinned.

I'm glad to see we're all getting along

(I'm not, and never have, attacked you.)

The fact that you attack people when you're emotional suggests that you are far from being thick-skinned. You take things personally and 'lash' it out.

As for what your friends and family think? ... I have no comment on that.

I don't need to speak to you personally to acknowledge your frustration when people don't agree with you - "words on a screen" show it just as easily.

It must be hard being Indigo(?) and not be able to prove it, huh?

Even if they can't prove it, it's funny to see them try... Whether they're telling the truth or not

Geesh I have never tried to prove Indigo children exist..... I meerly said I have a blue aura..... I get frustrated this is true. Look man I am only human but I am a positive person. I really dont care if Indigo children exist or not I dont care about feeling special because were all the same. Ive told you guys multiple times before that I think indigo is a scam and your just not acknowledging what I am saying... I just want you to believe in the fact that peoples perspectives are considerably different than yours and you never know what those people are experiencing.

I gave the perfect description of what I am in the thread "Great description of an empath"

Just because Ann w/e took advantage of that doesnt mean its not true. She just smudged something that was good with her interpretation of it. Its frustrating that you think I think I am an Indigo child.

I am what I am not what some text on a screen says I am. Just because that text on the screen reflects mildy what I am doesnt mean that I now consider myself this romantic Indigo child.

Sigh...its just not worth explaining myself

No man, that wasn't directed at you personally. I wasn't being arrogant. I just think it's funny...

I understand what you're saying.

cool man

Exponential_sly_de, what do you actually think of it then? I realise that you're not pointing it out to be true, yet you're obviously holding out for something.

Do you think that this could lead to a whole new view (on the Indigo's part) in the future? Do you believe it is possible that these people could witness multiple dimensions, etc.?

You've said before that you were an indigo.

Which is it.

I'm tired of debating with people that can't make up their minds.

Thanks for asking!

I think it all comes down to Global Consciousness and I think everyone human being knows the right answer to everything if they just listen to their instincts, I think there will be revolutions and a "new age" and perhaps Indigo children is just a representation of where peoples minds are these days. People want to try but they don't know how.

I truly believe that some people are more in touch with global Consciousness than others and I think Indigo children is just a fancy way of putting it.


I do everything I can to do my part in making this world balance itself. Life was once at harmony but humans and itellectualism destroyed the harmony.
I think its time the human race discovered its roots and started thinking of us as a whole and not as individuals. The only problems in this world are from people wanting more than other people.

Its the one percent (rich people) holding the 99 percent back!
They skew our reality and make us believe life is something that it isn't.
I managed to see through there lies because I am connected to something I can not explain. I see that some people see through it and some people don't. We have all met these people his whole life revolves around their tv car and house. I don't think those people are as happy as me. I have lived a life of materialism and it didn't get me anywhere so I changed who I was and my new self is much happier.

The thing about the Indigo idea that I really like is its reason. Its reason is to show people that there is a bunch of kids who really truly want to make a positive change in this world. Since these kids only want to do good I really don't care if they can turn water to fire lol. My thing is I don't care what you believe or do as long as it creates positivity for our planet as a whole. For instance I pick up garbage that my friends throw away when were walking down the street. They get mildy offended and apologize to me for throwing it away. Usually my friends start picking up the habit.

The beauty in doing things like that is the exponential growth rate at which it expands. If I pick up garbage then my friend learns from me and he does it thats 2+2 = 4 + 4 = 8 + 8 = 16 + 16 etc. So basically by me picking up one piece of garbage I pick up a lot more than that.

Same for quitting smoking. If I quit smoking friends around me start wanting to quit smoking. This is what I mean when I say we are all connected.

Really thats all I am about and all I believe in. Indigo is just a romantic notion in my eyes.


This is exponential growth

If being indigo means insulting people every time they say something that goes against "indigo beliefs," then how is that any good?

Furthermore, I've stated numerous times that alleged indigos have no true place in society, or ability to contribute because these people are lazy, arrogant, and don't feel they have to work for anything because they believe they are special.

People who do not want to work can't contribute.

So, if I was an indigo, and I had 4 friends, and my bad habits rubbed off, then that means 5 of us would be lazy, self-righteous, and feel we are royalty and everyone else should cater to our needs. If each of my friends had 4 friends, then that's 21 of us. If each of them had 4 friends... etc... pretty soon, everyone's suddenly a royal indigo with no desire to work, no desire to form a system because they "rebel against systems and authority," and then everyone would eventually die off because they'd all feel that everyone should work for them.

So, in the end, the "indigos" aren't anything worthwhile. In fact, this outlandish example I just used could in fact lead to the extinction of the human race.

This example comes from the very list of traits that are used to test if people are "indigo."

I've read and posted quotes from alleged psychics that teach parents how to raise indigos, and they say that indigo children are fussy eaters!! They expect me to believe this is the next step in the human evolutionary process?

You have got to be kidding me.

-steps away from knightmeirs post-










P.S it would be your safest bet to stop quoting things from those incoherent Indigo sites!

I have to say, you both (Exponential_sly_de and Knightmeir) make a lot of sense. I can see both sides.

I would stop quoting them if they weren't the very basis from which this topic came from.

No, what I am saying is that in my opinion Indigos have existed a lot longer than 30 years, maybe not in the numbers claimed today, but they existed.

Are you a Shirley Temple fan?

Anyway, look at the sources. People like Lee Carroll and various others trying to make a quick buck off the existence of Indigo, are in fact not Indigo.
How can they tell you what it is like being Indigo, when they themselves are not Indigo.

There are many people speculating what it means to be Indigo when they have absolutely no idea. If you were a "Skitzo" only you and others like you would really know what it is like being a "Skitzo". Some people might take your personality traits and come to their own conclusions...but will they be 100% right. Unless they live with it themselves, I don't think so.

Oh, and let me be the first Indigo on UM to say that discipline is good. In fact I am telling you to go out and teach your children discipline and respect for everyone and everything.
I am well aware that many parents neglect teaching their children discipline and respect.
It is no wonder the moral fibre of our society is degrading.



I absolutely agree with the statement that children/people come into this world with an inherent knowledge of things. It may come from birth, but it is not displayed until later in life when they are old enough for people to understand them. After all, babies can't talk or walk at a very young age. As Sly mentioned as well, it has more to do with a Global Consciousness and your ability to tap into it. I absolutely believe that knowledge can be gained by means other than the traditional way. Scientists are now starting to realize that a Global Consciousness might exist, and they are eventually starting to study it. Look at the Random Event Generator (little black box). Although still in it's infancy they are starting to study this. Why? Is it because deep down inside they are all Psychic-Indigo-X-Men-wannabe's or is it that science has yet to explain this world to it's full potential and those people brave enough to step away from the "world is flat" perception are starting to find evidence of things "out of this world". These scientists aptly named this project "The Global Consciousness Project". Now isn't that sweet that hardcore scientists are starting to accept that there might be more to this world than meets the eye? You claim to be a man of science...So why do you have such difficulty believing in the things that your brethren believe in? Is it maybe because you have no belief in anything?



Ok, so now you believe people are seeing Auras. That's good, we are making progress at last. You might as well have said she is paralyzed and claims to be Psychic. She is not claiming to be Psychic because of her disability.



I have no doubt that you get hysterical mothers trying to find a link between Indigo and diet. It could also be that they have no other child to compare it to. Diet is not a test for Indigo. The reason I posted the 25 characteristics of Indigo, was because it was the most accurate one I could find.
Like I said before, you will find many sites with discrepanies, and you will also find many sites with BS, filled with information that have no relation whatsoever by people who have no idea what it means to be Indigo.

All you are doing is pointing out all the various sites with incorrect information written by people who are not Indigo and do not understand what it means to be Indigo. So in other words you are pointing out errors made by "normal, un-X-Men like people."
Crucify them...not Indigo!



What a truly inept statement. Everyone is born with an innate sense of what is wrong and right. Although some people might get more desensitized at different stages of their life, we are all still born with it. This is all part of inherent knowledge and Global Consciousness.
Indigos should know better than anyone else about what I am saying. There is a major, major difference between killing people and disagreeing and rebelling against ineffective systems.



Very wrong. I did not grow up rich. Were the youngest of 6. Got all the hand-me-downs from my older siblings. Grew up in a very strict, conservative smalltown house. Did not own a computer until I was 23. Never had internet at home until I was 25. Went to boarding school where I had to fend for myself. Mowed lawns for other people at the age of 11 to make extra pocket money. Worked at a Pizza-2-Go at 17. Worked 2 jobs to pay for myself by waitering after hours. I worked for everything I have...and even more I don't have. I have never had anything handed to me on a plate. So your assumption that all Indigos are spoiled little brats are totally, totally incorrect.



Totally the wrong way around. The older sibling was the angel...I was the rebel. There is a 16 year difference.



Well that is exactly what I am trying to fix...all the myths surrounding Indigo.
Time will tell, and the skeptics will eat their words.



Yet again...information propagated by people who are not Indigo and have no clue whatsoever what it is like being Indigo.

(C&P) Sunday, January 15, 2006
Delusional Parenting: Indigo
The New York Times published a "fair and balanced" look at a set of parenting beliefs--"the Indigo Children".

The parents of "Indigo Children" believe their children are new and special. The Indigo concept was dreamed up by the "spiritual partners" Lee Carroll and Jan Tober, who wrote: "the Indigo Child is a boy or girl who displays a new and unusual set of psychological attributes, revealing a pattern of behavior generally undocumented before." The first book was published in mid-1999. The Indigo delusion has turned into a big industry, with books, meetings, and "channellings".

Those of us who think channelling and psychic powers are a load of codswallop describe these children as arrogant, impatient children who have not been guided to develop self-control. Or they may have neurological challenges such as ADHD, autism spectrum disorders, or bi-polar. In any case, their parents are doing them no favors by avoiding the challenges of parenting, and or seeking competent medical care, in favor of new-age worship of the child.

Those who believe in the indigo phenomenon describe them as evolutionarily more advanced than their parents. They have an indigo-colored "aura", the ability to see into the future, the ability to talk to unseenn beings (angels). They have a special role to play, leading us into a new "world of compassion and peace."

Why such coverage now? Because the Indigo True Believers are clever marketers, that's why. Over the weekend of January 27, 2006, there will be a nation-wide "World Indigo Weekend", feature the release of a new movie, The Indigo Evolution, ( Indigo: The Movie , a fictional treatment which premiered in 2003, will also be widely shown, even though it seems to be a turkey. Even New Agers hate this one)

Chris Locke believes "indigo parents" are psychological child abusers.




According to the website Metagifted.org, Indigo Children have the following traits,

Have difficulty with discipline and authority
Refuse to follow orders or directions
Find it torture to waiting in lines, lack patience
Get frustrated by ritual-oriented systems that require little creativity
Often see better ways of doing thing at home and at school
Are mostly nonconformists
Do not respond to guilt trips, want good reasons
Get bored rather easily with assigned tasks
Are easily distractible, can do many things at once
Have strong empathy for others or NO empathy
Are often identified or suspected of having ADD or ADHD, but can focus when they want to
Often express anger outwardly rather than inwardly and may have trouble with rage
Their parents believe they can see the future. Other Indigo enthusiasts believe they have special spiritual gifts:

"Indigo children have access to human experience at a larger level, at a greater depth than most people do," said Donald Walsch, best-selling author of "Conversations With God."

Sploid says,

Know-it-all brat or weirdo moonchild sent to save the world?

That's the question millions of wacky parents are asking these days. And for many suburban families desperate to find some meaning in the cruel drudgery of life, their moody hyperactive kids are really gifted creatures who will lead humanity to a new evolutionary phase.

Autism's Edges has a heart-breaking essay essay on the indigo child delusion, and what the implications are for kids on the autism spectrum:

Of course I can't deny the appeal of the indigo-child thesis. It is certainly very seductive to imagine that Sweet M. is not disabled, but that she is actually special—not as in needing special education, or special services—but as in being gifted. How lovely it is to imagine that she is just as valuable—maybe even more valuable—than a neurotypical child. The aching appeal to one's parental narcissism is obvious.

The danger of the indigo-child thesis, as MOM-NOS points out, or of the certain anti-psychiatric elements of the left, as Toby Miller and Marie Claire Leger point out, is that these versions of reality can cast parents like ourselves as evil drug pushers, rather than as parents who are doing abolutely everything we can to help make a home for our children in this world.

One parent believes that the indigo's disruptive behavior isn't pathological. It has a purpose:

Even disruptive behavior has a purpose, said Marjorie Jackson, a tai chi and yoga teacher in Altadena, Calif., who said that her son, Andrew, is an indigo. Andrew, now 25, was not disruptive as a child, she said, but in her practice she sees indigos who are.

"The purpose of the disruptive ones is to overload the system so the school will be inspired to change," Ms. Jackson said. "The kids may seem like they have A.D.D. or A.D.H.D. What that is, is that the stimulus given to them, their inner being is not interested in it. But if you give them something that harmonizes with the broad intention that their inner self has for them, they won't be disruptive."


Ann Althouse said,

I don't like all the Ritalin, but this new age stuff is worse. And it's painful to see the pandering to parents who lack objectivity about the bratty dimension of their own children.

All the Ritalin...it probably is overprescribed, but I invite you to read a memoir from an adult who is finally getting his ADD under control, with medication:

I'm sorrowful that it took so long. And I'm angry - searingly angry – to think of that eight-year-old's enthusiasm as it succumbed to frustration and repeated insult, and to think of the twelve-year-old he became, certain that he was the worst waste of skin in the world.

The Skeptic's Dictionary has an excellent piece on the indigo child phenomenon ADHD and the forming of public opinion around the uses of medications such as Ritalin.

The hype and near-hysteria surrounding the use of Ritalin has contributed to an atmosphere that makes it possible for a book like Indigo Children to be taken seriously. Given the choice, who wouldn't rather believe their children are special and chosen for some high mission rather than that they have a brain disorder?

Chris Locke has been following the "special children" story for a couple of years. He takes no prisoners :

By laying these harebrained expectations on kids, the New Agers are building a whole generation of narcissists. I don't mean stuck-up egotists. We're talking about Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD), in which the child never develops a genuine sense of self because he or she is too busy attempting to live out the fantasies of a delusional and psychologically abusive parent. This requirement to embody by proxy the parent's own grandiose "spiritual" dreams of power and glory almost invariably results in lasting damage to the child -- and often to the people that child will come into contact with as an adult.

I think the indigo phenomenon has a host of roots

The modern worship of celebrity: it's not enough just to be a regular person. You have to be special in some way
The cult of anti-authority--don't just question it, defy it!
The worship of the child, which began with the "youthquake" of the 1960s. "Indigo child" traits are very much those of an active 3-year old--these children aren't refusing to grow, their opposition is sacred!
Key players:

Lee Carroll (co-author of the first Indigo Children books) a former engineer and now channeller for the entity called "Kryon".
Jan Tober (co-author of the first Indigo Children books) a former jazz singer and and now channeller for the entity called "Kryon".
James Twyman , who seems to make his living telling people about his visions for peace. He's the star of the fictional treatment of indigo children, Indigo: The Movie.
Carolyn Kaufman who also makes her living providing "spiritual counselling and healing".
Doreen Virtue provides "angel therapy"; she believes that indigo children were succeeded by "crystal children" and now "rainbow children".
Wendy Chapman, who describes herself as "an indigo adult), makes her living providing "online counselling" for parents and caregivers.
Neale Donald Walsch, author of "Conversations with God" and actor in the "Indigo" fiction movie (read reviews here)
Partial List of Sources:
Michael Coronado's article in the Orange County Register
Lori Anderson's Indigo: The Color of Money
Sharon Jayson's article in USA Today: Indigo: Does the Science Fly?
Laura at Apt. 11D's post, with excellent commentary.
New York Times article: Are They Here to Save the World?
ABC News Special Report: Nov 2005: Parents Believe Children Have Psychic Powers
Creek Running North: Just Stop Being Lazy
Mom Not Otherwise Specified: Seeing Indigo, Seeing Red

Indigo Children: Delusional Parenting and this New Age Profiteers

Psychic folk and very Spiritual folk have always been around, just like artists and engineers.
That is not what Indigo Children is about.
The person who invented Indigo knows what it means because they invented it. Anything outside their invented terms and definitions would not be an Indigo.

LOL!
wow and I work and pay my taxes just like everyone else, and I don't contribute???
that's awesome. I'm glad you think I am worthless because I don't copy your views, opinions and judgements. Who now is insulting, Kneightmeir? hmm? How on earth are you contributing to this society? by being rude to anyone who has anything unique to share? why then come to 'Unexplained Mysteries' if all you want is to have Mysteries Explained? doesn't it defeat the purpose?
but Hey, who am I to know. In your eyes you will see all this as stupid jibberish and hurry the hell up to throw back more insults at me. Why not find something more constructive to do with your time?

What is all boils down to is "indigo" is an alleged form of psychic. So, if 90% of the people who were born from the end of the 70's till now are psychic, then why isn't anything happening?



My mother watched her when I was a kid. Obvious example of a child that was seemingly beyond her years. Doesn't mean she was psychic or "indigo"



People like Lee Carroll have come up with the whole idea, the very basis behind what all of these alleged "indigos" believe. So basically, thousands of people believe in something that was completely fabricated.



Only the people who fabricated the whole "movement" knows what the true characteristics are, which have been stated time and again.

Everyone is speculating because the basis by which they are classified is a fabrication by people who want to make money. AGAIN, those people have written books to make money. If they didn't coin the term, then there wouldn't be a bunch of people running around calling themselves indigos.



Very much agreed.



You assume I don't believe in anything because I don't believe in indigos.

No one is saying the world is flat. However, there is a blatant reality which a lot of people are unwilling to take part in because they wish to feel special.

I never claimed to be a man of science. I've got a few hundred posts on these forums. Find a quote from me stating that I am a man of science and then post it here. Thanks. I'm a man of reality : )



Aura and distorted vision are two different things.



Then why is food consumption lumped in with the alleged psychic abilities of indigos?



All of these sites have discrepancies for one reason: They all want to stand out from the crowd by offering some "new" insight into what they believe in, or so they can sell more books. New information generates more sales.



I'm not trying to crucify anyone. I'm simply stating the fact reality exists and the indigos should join in : )



How is it inept? I gave a stupid example and said so immediately after, and gave a logical comparison. This proves that you only read the first part of it, and completely discounted the rest of what I said. Therefore proving that you don't see anything but what you want to in order to validate what you believe in.



Again, you're the one assuming. Find me a quote stating that I said "ALL."

When you learn to read the entire post and not just the bits and pieces that you feel somehow validate your beliefs, then reply with my quotes.




You're one in a million.



Indigo IS a myth. Time has told. People have been claiming "great changes in the future" for centuries. All the end times predictions, etc... you name it, it's been said, it's been done. And here we are today, unchanged, no huge spiritual awakening. Open your eyes.



Again, information being propagated by people who think they're indigo because someone with a physical medical condition said they are. You can go round and round in the same circle.

So, when is the evidence going to be provided that this alleged phenomenon exists? Been asking for it for a while. Still, nothing.

So, you're claiming to be indigo as well? Please provide evidence.

And as far as doing something more constructive, would you like me to claim to be indigo as well, and try to convince everyone I am? Maybe I can create a website, write a book, and provide breast feeding tips for mothers of indigo children. I'll claim to see auras, and I'll make up all kinds of neat things.

Here's the deal... if I did that, people would believe me. And people such as yourself would argue vehemently about how wrong the skeptics are about my "truths." It's done every day, right here.

In fact, I think I should conduct such an experiment.

Thanks for the idea!

Indigos are people wih Indigo Auras. Yes, some may be psychic and have gifts. Not all Indigos are ADD/ADHD little brats running around believing that they don't have to work for a living.

Like you said. Indigo might very well be a form of Psychic. Rightly so.

How many Indigos who do not display notable signs of ADD/ADHD do you think go unnoticed as Indigo? Many.

Just because a small percentage of kids now display signs of ADD/ADHD, does not necessarily make them Indigo. Yes, some of them might be...but no all.

That is exactly what I have been trying to say since my initial post on this thread...is that you will find people with Indigo Auras and certain abilities and perceptions that will not display any notable signs of ADD or ADHD. It is for exactly that reason that I stated that not all Indigos have to have ADD/ADHD.

I think people have a distorted mass hysteria about what Indigos truly are.

And the fact of the matter is that you and everyone else will always look at the minorities of Indigo who may well have ADD/ADHD and place all Indigos under the same umbrella.

You make very good, and valid points.

One of my main issues with this is the lack of evidence to support any of it. I tend to lump the whole "spiritual awakening" on a global scale with all of the predictions people have made in the past. All of them have passed their deadlines, and it is proof to me that this is just another one of those.

Here's another issue I have:



This is coming from someone that supposedly sees them:

http://www.crystalinks.com/aura.html

If they change all of the time, how can one be classified as an "indigo" if the color is never the same?

The page also describes the medical condition which gives people the ability to see colors around various things.

Exactly. If people (supposed Indigos) claim that the inventor's description is somewhat inaccurate, then they are going against their own beliefs - meaning, they are NOT an Indigo.


Indeed. All you have to do is create a theory/myth, write a book, then watch the money roll in from the people who claim to be PART of your theory.

if these psychic indigo's did exist, would un-gifted humans accept them? or hunt them down and "control" them? just wondering...

No. Don't you remember? We are (apparently) afraid of them. So I guess we wont be doing the hunting, eh?

Speak for yourself. I plan to go down fighting....

Wont happen. The Indigos are going to make this world a better place. That includes YOU! There's no getting away from them.


I'm just kidding (before I get an Indigo's back up).

Please, don't say that. You're not representing any perticular side of this argument well.

On a further note, after looking over the thread "should hitting your child be legal", and other threads, I've decidedly come to a conclusion that the majority of the people on this forum are, in fact, emotionally and mentally jaded (Still capable of intelligence, of course, but nonetheless...).

It seems most of you are greatly reliant upon selectively picking messages apart and ignoring strongpoints, have little or no basis behind some of what exactly you say, and often resort to pathetic insulting and personal or generalizing shots as well.

Thus, I am leaving.

Farewell.

-MDH

lol I agree.


Farewell

Well I don't agree.

Farewell.

haha

The war is coming between the indigo(xmen) and normal people. Beware, I think it starts in May at the movie theater.

Indigo children have the ability to access their own dna and use it to evolve through the upcoming events. They carry genes that man once had to continue evolution... that is why they are so special.... to continue the next journey with their ability.

Indigo is afraid.
Upper authority (Government) takes fear in their abbility.

wipeout.