This sounds more absurd as the posts go on.


Ability? Come off it. The only ability that I've noticed so far is to attack the guy with the 4x4.

I would be afraid if I had a oppisitional attitude and psychic powers too, which I dont!

I would afraid if you did too.

^ Haha!

Lol u bumped this post up to laugh at it?!?! IT WAS DEAD NEWS!!! NOOOOO NOW WELL NEVER GET RID OF IT AGAIN!!!

So, the parents carry this 'special DNA' also right but can't "access" it? Or did they (indigos) by virtue of being born into a certain time frame/generation suddenly develop/incorporate new (?) DNA? Exactly how are they "accessing" it?? Seems like another case of people trying/wanting to be special and then clinging to pseudoscience to back up their claims/argument. Well if they are happy I see no problem
...hmmm I am from "GEN X"...maybe I have some special untapped cognitive resource that would give me a sense of being special and unique...

wasn't that special !

I think a direct correlation can be made between the release of an X Men movie and increased posts about powers and indigo children.

I hadn't been on UM for a while. I came back to find the last two posts quite amusing. So yes. I guess I did.


Lol. I haven't seen X Men yet. But when I do, I'll be sure to give you a 'far out' explanation behind my capabilities.

hahaha this post will be around forever now

Aslong as you think of things like fairy tales like this you will never see my point.

Is there a point?

My point is that fancy cars dont buy hapiness.

Neither do imaginery mutant powers....

This is an interesting subject. Thanks for posting.

I am only interested in seeing this subject dropped....

well its a little worn out....

Sure they do. My truck sure helped my happiness. Maybe your just miserable anyway.


You have no point silly boy.

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Yes..gifted people have been around for centuries, but I believe the appearance of the indigo children is very timely..and I saw some people commented that ADD people are indigo. Not all with ADD are, yet ADD is a a trait. The world for children right now is such a different space. Everything is rushed and competitive. I read the book by Lee carroll and Jan Tober and found it refreshing. I come from a generation of kids that drank from garden hoses without worrying about bird flu..stayed out til dark and the door was left open because people just didn't run arouind robbing people. we knew our neighbors and weren't paranoid.
I was a loner and highly creative and had problems with authority. I gravitated toward healing at a young age. I wonder if there aren't indigos among the 40 and 50's age group.
Any thoughts?

All parents want their children to be special. All children want to be special. Guess what? We are special in some way, BUT THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS INDIGO CHILDREN. That is something for parents to call there ADD kids so they don't feel bad.

I do believe in Fairies.....I do ................ I do............I do!!!!!!!!!!!

(From the Movie Peter Pan).

Sincerely,

The Original Chocolate Fairy

if that counts as either having to take excrutiating notes to learn or being so starved of knowlege in the summer that you have to do extensive research on a particular thing THEN THATS ME lol

Here you might like this video... if the begining doesn't catch you skip to the part with the pyramid chart with 1-7 on the bottom it's the main focus of the class... This guy died right after getting his message out..
Part1
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8689261981090121097
Part2
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5...ngold&hl=en

I learnt bout the indigo thing like a year ago but I got bored of it and wanted new information to feed on:).
First off indigo is just a label for a person who is an older soul in comparison to say a dog which is at a lower level of conciousness. I don't wanna push beliefs on anyone but reincarnation exists, there's an end to every cycle of life just as well as there is a begining.

I wanted to know your opinions on the fact that your brain is electromagnetic.. therefore it cannot be destroyed only transfered? Secondly all planets have electromagnetics as well making astronomy an horroscopes completely believable in my opinion... A massive celestial body of electromagnetics must f*** with our electromagentic brains???
Furthermore "sunspots" if you don't know what that is just google it but they are also electromagentic and we are about to enter a 2006-2012 solar maximum so I have a very good feeling natural distaters are gunna get even worse.. 2005 was not the lowest of solar min as we are right now.. but yet 2007 will be more sunspots then 2005 and 2005 was pretty intense for a solar min... Here if you havent seen a picture of this you'll like it;
http://ipac.jpl.nasa.gov/media_images/sig05-010_medium.jpg

Sorry my typing was sh**ty didn't have time thanks BYE.

I have to agree -

I've looked into this too, btw - I'm 52 and 'could' but won't be labled "Indigo" - it's just a New Age term for ID, Super ID, Ego, Super Ego, just another label that people can write books about and make more money!

But here is the BIG question that I've run across time and again in the past 15+ years.

All these so called "Indigo" abilities (psi related) are totally Subjective. They can only be validated in the mind of the specific person. It cannot be validated outside of their own mnds. Why is that?

Case in point - A parent told me of their indgo child talking with another indigo child telepathically. So I asked, "how do you know this?" - "Johnny told us they were..." - "Oh, did you validate this? This would be very significant if it's true.." - "True, why would Johnny lie to us.?" - "Oh, because you've fed him this stuff, so like any child he wants to impress and make his parents happy and proud??" - "Johnny wouldn't do this." - "Oh, so then you validated this telepathy abilities??" - "No, don't need to. He tells the truth." Sigh....

See what's missing and what is NOT persued? Validation. A simple test of handing Johnny some que cards and have his friend tell what Johnny said the cards said. Would be pretty simple and straight forward. A good couple of neutral witnesses and you have some validation. But this will not be done. Wonder why? (Because "Johnny doesn't lie?")

When people in "this" are willing to actually step out of the Subjective Reality into Objective Reality - then I guess some good serious dialog can take place. For now it's pretty much, "I say I can do this, why would I Lie?", in this day and time just doesn't 'cut it'. We've had too much history of scams, fruads, hoaxes and people telling us they can be Jedi, X-Men and Jesus all in one!

You wonder why 'you' are not taken seriously? Give something that is not Subjective - and you will be taken seriously. "Say so", simply is not proof. Even at 52 years of age, my say so, that I am 'this or that' - unless I can validate it - just doesn't cut it.


J -

Ok, so if reincarnation exists... where do "new" souls come from? And do you have proof that it exists in the first place?

The Mayan Calendar is just a calendar, so this 2012 thing, yeah, getting pretty old : )

I bought a book called the indigo children about a year ago, because I had problems with my pre-teen son. He cried easily in school, had problems accomplishing his home or school work and was often on strike all together about any type of school related work. We've been to psychologists and school councellers and not one could tell me specifically what was wrong. All they said was that he wasn't ADD or ADHD or even had high functioning autism.
The reason why they are called Indigo children in the first place, was due to the color of the auras of these children. Nancy Ann Tappe could see auras around people, but apparently at the end of the seventies, she noticed a new color, or better yet a shade. It was a real dark kind of purple.
More and more teachers, psychologists, doctors etc, have been noticing children with certain trades easily confused with ADD or ADHD, but infact are highly intelligent and cannot be labelled as such.

The ten common traits of Indigo Children are:

1 They come into the world with a feeling of royalty (and often act like it).

2 They have a feeling of "deserving to be here," and are surprised when others don't share that.

3 Self-worth is not a big issue. They often tell the parents "who they are."

4 They have difficulty with absolute authority (authority without explanation or choice).

5 They simply will not do certain things; for example, waiting in line is difficult for them.

6 They get frustrated with systems that are ritual-oriented and don't require creative thought.

7 They often see better ways of doing things, both at home and in school, which makes them seem like "system busters" (nonconforming to any system).

8 They seem antisocial unless they are with their own kind. If there are no others of like consciousness around them, they often turn inward, feeling like no other human understands them. School is often extremely difficult for them socially.

9 They will not respond to "guilt" discipline ("Wait till your father gets home and finds out what you did").

10 They are not shy in letting you know what they need.

By the way, in the 60s and 70s indigo children were extremely rare. It's a new phenomenon since the 80s but more in the 90s till now. Some researchers believe that the brain of these children and perhaps of the new generation has gone through an evolutionary development.

But there is 100% ZERO evidence to prove this alleged "evolution." I've researched the crap out of this subject, and all I can find are people trying to make MONEY off of people who aren't exactly sure what's wrong with their kids. If indigoism or the space kids, or whatever the other hundreds of names they have for these "auras" were true, there would be in fact scientific evidence to substantiate these theories. Brain activity would in fact show something different than the average peon such as myself.

Kids are kids. They say they've got ADD because they're hyperactive. Man, what kid isn't? Kids are supposed to have a lot of energy. They all act rebellious. They all give you the "screw off" look as though they feel they're royal and know everything. We have ALL been there unless our parents drugged us up on whatever it is the doctor wanted to hand out as candy so he or she could make money. That's all it boils down to. A money-making scheme to sell books, to sell lectures, and anything else you can imagine.

We are all nothing but human. This superpower psychobabble kinetic aura hippie emo movement is nothing but a means to screw people out of money.

Knightmeir, again totally spot on!

I would add this thread that I started a few weeks back.

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...showtopic=79736

J -

Jjbreen the only thing that can be said about Knightmeir responses is that he is 100% biased in relation to any issue in respect to the paranormal. Actually if you had spent .00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% reading Knightmeir's responses that would have been 100% obvious. So what exactly is the point of responding to each of his posts as if his real name is Oprah? Only one possibility can exit you support whatever he states .

That is real good to know given what he has said...... Knightmeir is obviously pseudo-skeptic intent upon presenting an absolute which does not in reality exist. for the record a real Nasty one.

Any thoughts?

Well obviously I've not kept the 'track record' on him that you seemed to have. But you know what - this isn't about him or you or me. It is about facts -vs- fiction.

For instance. One of the above posts talks about the basis of this being on a person seeing an "idigo" aura. Seeing auras and "building" a 'belief' around them is not science. It is just that a belief.

Now it is easy, really easy to build. I even looked at the "list" of character qualities of the Idigo and showed the list to two Psychologist PhD that I know, friends. They looked at the list and said and I quote: "just about every child/pre-teen/teen will fit into this list.

They also noted that when the family structure began to change, with both working parents, to child care, latch key kids, single parents, step-parents, etc - the status of the child did change. The home life from pre 1970's began to change. Do we not expect this to change from what was? Do we some how not expect some new character changes to take place? This some how is NOT part of the equation??

I would love to hear the rational on this?

Most medical professionals see this and acknoweldge it. Those that don't are into the 'touchy, feel good, New Age BS'. So you have to find out where the doctor is coming from.

The "Skeptic" looks at or tries to look at, the big picture. The 'believer' looks at his/her belief. Beliefs, as much as we wish they would, do NOT make facts. Evidence, proof, validation makes facts.

When you have a medical community saying, this really isn't mystical, metaphysical and such - and you have the believers saying it is. Then you have to look at the evidence. What does it say?

It's like the so called "Psi-Wheel" and those that would claim, "my hand isn't giving off heat..." Huh? Take a thermal camera and just see how much heat your hand is giving off! It's at least giving off 90.0 degrees to 98.6+ of heat! The evidence is clear, the science is clear - and yet it is denied and ignored and in some cases, wished it would go away.

See I have managed to keep this out of KM, T or myself - focusing on just the issues that are there, questions that need be asked and often ignored.

When a claim is made one has to ask, "what are ALL the dynamics at play in the given claim?" The science, emotional, physiological, biological, mental, etc. Then as one begin to scratch out what does not/cannot answer the claim - you are left with what does answer the claim.

If it comes down to "emotional" vs science and the science is not at all hard to see. Why is it that the science is ignored, in most of the cases? Why is it the science isn't looked at by the one making the claim? Why do they 'screem', "foul', "debunker" and such - without first checking the science out themselves - ACTUALLY DOING THE HOMEWORK! They don't for a good reason - they would see the science is acurate. Sigh........... BUT on the per-chance that science cannot answer it - then you do have to look at what IS at play. That takes time, investigation and research, for which most today don't wish to do - they want 'fast answers', 'quick fixes' other wise - "forget it". They will and do accept the 'easy answer' for that very reason - 'easy'.

Any thoughts??

J -

Jjbreen,

In cases as you've cited, people will ignore scientific evidence for their own belief because they want to feel special rather than ordinary or in need of help. Parents will do this for the benefit of their children as it makes them feel better to think their children are special and it absolves the child (and parents) of feeling guilt at their behaviour - 'I'm (Johnnies) different, therefore I'm (Johnnies') allowed to behave this way!'

I generally follow the skeptical path, but am open-minded enough to look at all possibilities. However I agree the simplest solution is usually the correct one.

Ouch.
I like Knightmeir's views. He makes sense to me.

Of all the paranormal claims. Indigo children are the most lame. Silly parents that feel the need to say their children are special.
My 6 year old daughter is the sun in my life, but that doesn't mean she is an evolved soul or has psychic powers. I feel sorry for the kids when they go to school and say " I have powers, my mother says so."

Respect.

Amen to that. I think nearly all the parents I've met who believe in Indigo children also believe their children to be Indigo children. And in nearly all the cases, they appeared to be very, very wrong.

Exactly.
In a sense, it is no different then the crazy parents that think their child will become a movie or sports star. They end up hurting their child's psyche in the long run.

Yes, I think telling little johnny that he is more special than everyone else is actually unhealthy. What happens when johnny's powers fail to get him through an exam or escape the class bully?

Where do souls come from... Who the f*** knows that...god? mayeb the source of all life?, my proof of reincarnation would be that there are always people and there were people in the past did the people in the past just dissapear?? there body maybe... how did you get here?? Maybe you should realize you were born to die and no matter what the f*** you do you can't stop it. If you want some scientific proof your brain is electromagentic... which is a form of energy that cannot be destroyed only transfered or whatever the hell that law of energy states.

As far as sympathyzing the concept of souls with science goes - our best bet is they are made out of etheric matter/energy. It is a known fact the body looses a few grams after death. Perhaps souls have the same principle as energy - they cannot be created or destroyed.

This is exactly a point that I brought up in a different forum -

What happens when the NEW AGE LIES hit reality? What will be the cost, physically, emotionally and yes, spiritually.

We don't think kids listen, just read the posts of kids asking this Psi and that Psi question about powers. Heck even one kid watching HEROS, because his parents told him, "I am speical, I saw the TV show Heros and felt, ya I could fly..." Two broken ribs and a broken leg. So ya, kids are listening and with all the sci-fi from X-Men to Jedi to so called "Psionic Powers" - they are getting fed this stuff A LOT!

So what is going to happen when the "special powers" don't "work"?? How many could wind up paying a price - that really shouldn't be there??

J -

I say...Isn't the important thing that these little person(s) are able to do more than the 'normal' child? Why does a term mean so much? It doesn't describe everything a person is, it just describes any type of common trait or ability(ies). So what if some people are 'different'? Everyone here on the planet, are stuck in living side by side together. There will be those who are stronger, and more capable than others, and a term such as "indigo" or "rainbow" isn't going to affect them by giving them 'super powers'. They already had 'talents' to begin with that are able to physically manifest because of their 'expanded horizons,' learned and attained by their soul. I do agree that some people label themselves or their children for the sake of being 'special,' instead of trying to understand who they are, and what this world truly is.

Who a person is defined by their desires, goals, abilities/talents, actions, and consciousness, not by a label. Each person is different, there are similarities with everyone, but the individual has the potential to change--expecting a person to stay the same is limiting. So, it is irrelevant to anyone's benefit to label themselves as something that isn't going to aid them in surviving in this world or any levels of existance. Titles and such little things don't matter much in the 'spiritual realms,' as beings there don't really rely on such things, nor are they attached to terms or labels, they've outgrown it.
"Reality" isn't going to stop and lay down for anyone being anything, people need to start gathering more knowledge and experience so that they can expand their consciousnes in order to get a chance to get closer to their full potential. When a person learns more, the more they are able to do. The new world order and real 'metaphysics' is much different than it is thought out to be. Terms, definitions have a whole other meaning and is more vast than the average human comprehension can understand. Then there are 'issues' that people need to resolve, and exploration of the person within that will reveal much more information, which will have its tasks to deal with, along with the basics of life, discovering their abilities, learning how to diffuse situations without blowing them apart, and understanding what this world truly is. It takes awhile to learn, so I suggest that people should get moving soon.



To me, these 'indigo', 'crystal', 'rainbow' children are just children to me, they are persons with souls that are capable of many things, yet they have much to learn and experience.





I agree Jj, I believe that many people/kids have their 'egos' to deal with, they've yet to understand that this world is a collective that have people who will be stronger than they, that hard work is needed to achieve anything, and the independence they must take up in their own lives to survive. Kids usually don't have the comprehension of the consequences in many of their actions, because they still think that the world is about them. They relate who they want to be to the things that they observe/watch and enjoy, that is apart of how they learn. Relation.
So who encourages these whims? Those that teach them and care for them, or the things that they see/watch/listen/observe. People learn from their mistakes, so if they don't listen, then that is their choice...at times, the best way is to let people learn by their own experiences. There are more than just 'illusion' that people have to get past.
I also believe that even people who don't show any 'extra - ordinary' talents/abilities, they can learn it by proper practice, knowledge, and experiences.

This has what to do with supposed indigo children. By the way, cursing is not a good way to get your point across. It generally just shows lack of maturity.

Profanity is the feeble attempt, of a mediocre mind, trying to express itself forcibly.

What is the difference of this generation of children being born, from other generations?

Now I'm starting this list via Pre- 1970 and Post - 1970
This list does not express bias or prejudice. It is just a list. Nothing more and nothing less.

Same Sex Parents.
Larger single family parents.
More dual family divorice and remarriage of parents.
Both parents working.
Latch Key kids
All day - Day care.
Child Abuse Raised (post 1970)
Incest Raised. (Post 1970)
Child Crimes. (Post 1970)
Child Kidnappings (Post 1970)
Child - Teen gun related crimes. (Post 1970)
Child Porn. (Post 1970)
Child / Teen Sex (Post 1970)
Abortions. (Post 1970)
Teen Preg. (Post 1970)
Drug Abuse / Use (Post 1970)
Alcohol Abuse (Post 1970)
Chemical Releated Injuries- Sick Building Syndrome (Post 1970)
Drug Adicited Babies (Post 1970)
Nutritional Issues (Post 1970)
*Anirexia / Bulimia, over weight - etc. (sp?) (Post 1970)
Higher Preasure to preform for sports. (post 1970)
Higher Preasure to "get ahead" (Post 1970)

How is that for a list of a much more complicated life for kids growing up? Again I am NOT expressing any bias or prejudice - it's just a list of facts.

Kind of sad list isn't it. These kids are not "special" or "gifted" - these kids in most, NOT all cases are ignored more so then kids from the past. They are left to themselves, or the parent(s) are to 'tired' when they get home or to 'busy' or 'pushing their kids to "excel", or the parents 'push them to "be"'

J -

Profanity words anything is just an expression not what you make it out to be. It is what you believe, because so many of you must be over 40 the way you talk like you know the universe just because you lived some years on this planet and still don't know anything.

I can say that I am an indigo child or crystalline either one because i posses both attibutes and abilities. At first i didn't think so because i possesed so many of both attributes and abilities and many more so i wondered if it could be fake. But it is not at all!!!!!!!!

Why would it be so sad and bad for the human race to be furthered by the furture and recent born children of the world. Whether they had special vebration or abilities or not they would do it anyway because many of the older people would die off or be bought out!!!!

I mean Bill Gates was a child once no special ability or nothing (from what we knew), but he had a vision and a goal to just run a software business and now he is the richest man on this planet.

Just because it seems so out of this world or so far fatched does not mea that it isn't real. When the day comes when we humans are furthered into the greatest consciousness and further focus and concnentration of our everyday lives then and only then will the human race succeed into the next 10,000 years or so because the world is changing tand more planets have been found.

There is always enough change to go around i mean we don't fill up the entire world from sea to ocean to land but if we did we would kow everything about this world now would we!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DhA...OraCle
-Randy Williams

Language is relative...Understanding would vary based on the person's knowledge...

Everyone has abilities/talents, they vary...But to have their abilities/talents to expand and to be able to defy the laws of physics, that would need ALOT more work, knowledge, experience, and evolving.
There are souls who have done that already, so that some of their expanded abilities/talents sort of in a sense leak through.

I have no issues with talents and abilities - as long as for the kids sakes they are kept level headed and 'down to earth'.

There are no X-Men. There are no "Super-Psi". There are no "Jedi". The TV series Heroes is FICTION. People cannot fly on their own. People cannot shoot 'electricity' from their hands or fingers - except the all to comon static shock from cold weather and/or friction.

There is such a flood of this going around and people are actually asking and believing that they can do these things. One person in another online group - he is not alone - is convienced that he has "Super Psi Powers" to save the world!

Hey keep it level, keep it honest and keep it factual - hey call them anything (nice) that you wish - just keep it down to earth real.

Jj -

Well maybe keeing it down to earth is the odl way of doing things and is very 1990s we are in the year 2006 in the 200s.

It is time for some change and the time is now because the new mellinium new things to try out new objectives and most of all new thinking!!!!

I mean for all you know some of these people could have these powers. You cannot just doubt someone on your belief and what you think is scientific because science cannot explain everything.

I wish they could tell me what light ot lightning is. Is it a wave or is it particles?? Or even so fully explain the brain and its full potential to the human mind and body??

These are the things that will leave the exploring and the curious minds keep asking why and how can I achieve that!!

These beliefs, these wonders, these possibilities all of which shaped the human race and all that we have today!!! These things will also some day bring about a renassance of expanded consciousness and awareness leading us into doors of psi, chi, and anything thing else that you think is beyond our reach!!!!!!!!!!

Even though some of these things have been around for thousand of years but just have been pushed out of society by science and common beliefs that proof of the eye is a definite!!! Ever since magicains have beaten the possibility that anything is possible while not through science people will always believe that someone is always pulling slight of hand or making an illiusion in front of a camera!!!!!!!!!

DhA...OraCle
-Randy Williams

There are a great many children in today's world who would qualify as an "Indigo."
Most of them know better than to label themselves "Indigo."

If you think you have the power to drastically change the world for the better, go do it, instead of hanging around forums and boasting that you can do it.

Yes I am doing so by sticking on the forum because so many people are posted and stay reading. I post my comments and bring my thread such as "who has the power to change their world, matter and belief what we change" to try and help such people as i have been helped!!!!

I am trying to help people see how they can change there lives!!!!!!!!!!Changing the world is not alway done by action but can also be done by the word of mouth and trying to make others believe!!!!!!!!

DhA...OraCle
-Randy Williams

Thank you...
Though I do agree that kids need to be 'down to earth' and level headed...As getting drunk on 'power' or 'ego' is damaging, so it is suggested to have enough knowledge, comprehension, understanding, and experience to be able to do anything competent.
People have been able to physicall manifest their psi/spiritual/metaphysical abilities/talents because of their comprehension, experience, and knowledge. They earned what they have so to speak. So, having any type of 'psychic/spiritual/metaphysical' abilities/talents for real, takes alot of hard work and strength.