mysticart1987
Nov 8 2006, 11:19 PM
QUOTE(Araezel @ Nov 8 2006, 03:35 PM) [snapback]1419531[/snapback]
Thank you...
Though I do agree that kids need to be 'down to earth' and level headed...As getting drunk on 'power' or 'ego' is damaging, so it is suggested to have enough knowledge, comprehension, understanding, and experience to be able to do anything competent.
People have been able to physicall manifest their psi/spiritual/metaphysical abilities/talents because of their comprehension, experience, and knowledge. They earned what they have so to speak. So, having any type of 'psychic/spiritual/metaphysical' abilities/talents for real, takes alot of hard work and strength.
That is true and it is not because some people are just naturally born with either the gift, talent, or psychic/spiritual/metaphysical abilities.
All it is, is to just learn and understand what you are getting into and to control what you have and want!!!!!
I was born with the natural ability of empathy, precognition, and many other things that I would not want to go into because some were one or two-time things. I have these abilities but it is up to me to either control it and try to learn as much as I can about these abilities. Also I could just leave it be and never ever look into the experience and just let it be dispersing til' I don't even rememeber the feeling!!!!!!!!!!
People are either born with it or would have to go through many years of practice to actually do the ability. Either way the point is to have responsibility for what you have or acquire while perfectiing or achieving the control and opening the door to the ability!!!!!!!!!!
DhA...OraCle
-Randy W.
Jjbreen
Nov 9 2006, 06:35 AM
QUOTE(mysticart1987 @ Nov 8 2006, 03:19 PM) [snapback]1419659[/snapback]
I was born with the natural ability of empathy, precognition, and many other things that I would not want to go into because some were one or two-time things.
DhA...OraCle
-Randy W.
The empathic ability to sense the real emotions of another is not all that uncommon. Actually it more common, just that most do not understand it. Most are born Empaths and it's not something that can easily be taught - nor would anyone in their right minds want to be taught this.
But this has been around again, a lot longer then most people thought it to be. It's not "new" - just the understanding of what it is, is 'new'. There is a big difference between the two.
Jj..
mysticart1987
Nov 10 2006, 12:01 AM
Yeah but some people do not know how to control them or even tell between their feelings or other people's feelings. This is when people go kinda crazy because of the known fact that they don't know what they got and have n knolwedge of the ability.
When this happens they think that they are emotionally distressed and that they are so dramatic when they get around people. Even so they would get down, happy, or even excited just by the feelings of others even if they were totally depressed!!!!!!!!!!!
DhA...OraCle
-Randy W.
Jjbreen
Nov 10 2006, 12:44 AM
QUOTE(mysticart1987 @ Nov 9 2006, 04:01 PM) [snapback]1421267[/snapback]
Yeah but some people do not know how to control them or even tell between their feelings or other people's feelings. This is when people go kinda crazy because of the known fact that they don't know what they got and have n knolwedge of the ability.
When this happens they think that they are emotionally distressed and that they are so dramatic when they get around people. Even so they would get down, happy, or even excited just by the feelings of others even if they were totally depressed!!!!!!!!!!!
DhA...OraCle
-Randy W.
Randy -
Actually I totally agree with you there. I've been working w/some doctors where there is no medical / chem or other noted reason for Social and/or emotional issues where the person could be an Empath - the study so far has been very interesting.
Jj -
mysticart1987
Nov 16 2006, 06:15 PM
There woulnd't be becuase of the extensive knowledge that has to be learned even more about the brain!!!!! This will take time, and when we even so reach learning about that state something new will upbring itself!!!!!!!
DhA...OraCle
-Randy W.
Gatofeo
Nov 18 2006, 05:52 PM
Indigo Child?
Sounds like the over-indulged, spoiled, arrogant, discourteous, disrespectful, prideful, undisciplined, painfully precocious pain in da patoot kind of child that needs a swat on the butt, if you ask me.
I'm 51 years of age. When I grew up you were respectful of adults, addressed them as "Sir" or "Ma'am" if you didn't know them and you did what your parents told you because deep down, you knew they were right 99 percent of the time.
Today, I see children calling me, "Hey!" or "Dood," extorting their parents with threats of reporting child abuse to the authorites if they are punished, demanding the latest toys or electronic equipment and swaggering around like they are the badasses of the "hood" --- yet railing against military service as the haven for thugs and murderers.
I served my country for four years. I'll match my criminal record (spotless) and urinalysis against any of these Hip Hop and Rap singers any day. Most of them are thugs, criminals and druggies.
Who spoke of Hippies?
I recall them quite clearly.
They were dirty, smelly, often stoned and incoherent and only tolerant of those who saw things exactly their way. If you disagreed with a Hippie on a topic, you might find yourself in a fight.
Hippies could be violent if they didn't get their way.
They were NOT the Peace, Love and Justice League that the media now portrays them as.
I saw plenty of Hippies growing up. Perhaps they grew out of their ways later on, but at the time they were to be avoided.
And now, we're dealing with the children and grandchildren of those Hippies. Any wonder why the world is so screwed up?
I'm not advocating beating children. Myself, I was never spanked once by my parents but I knew that if I got too mouthy there was a slap on the hand or a swat on the butt waiting for me. It kept me in line.
Would that more parents swatted hands and butts. And teachers too.
ADD?
I'd bet that 90 percent of ADD could be rectified immediately with a slap on the hand or a swat on the butt. And the other 10 percent might just witness this and figure they better toe the line or they're next.
Consider who first identified ADD in children: Physicians with books about child-rearing to sell, or the pharmaceutical compnies. Oh my, there's an objective source! You think they might have ulterior motives, convincing so many of us that we have a condition that a pill can cure?
Discipline works.
Children are NOT little adults. They have little or no conscience and can be incredibly cruel, selfish, slovenly, lazy, and destructive. Oh, and they lie and steal too if not guided at an early age.
Does this sound like the kind of person who should be allowed to make his own decisions, that will lead the world into a new era?
Discipline.
Give it back to the parents. Certainly, give it back to the teachers.
A few swats at an early age can be beneficial if the child is behaving badly and warnings don't work.
Indigo Child?
Same ol' Hippie crap I've been hearing for 40 years --- an excuse to let your child run free and do whatever the Hell he wants --- to the detriment of others. And when he gets caught, blame the "system" or the police for his predicament.
Hippies! <snort> I was there! I saw them! They were NOT like they are portrayed today.
Indigo Child? God, I hope they're not the next generation of leaders. If they are, remember to click your heels smartly, raise your hand and yell, "Sieg Heil!"
francobejarano2
Nov 19 2006, 04:55 PM
QUOTE(Taylor @ Feb 1 2006, 09:16 AM) [snapback]1044280[/snapback]
Has anyone heard of indigo children? It was on the news a few days ago. But I missed it!

I guess they had supernatural powers.
I remember reading about this when my little sister was born, she didn't speak a word

. my dad told that she might be an indigo child, special children with supernatural powers, some philosophers say that they are angels

hidden as children.
Jjbreen
Nov 19 2006, 10:01 PM
"Supernatural Powers" - and yet has any actually been documented?
I know some 'down syndrom' have been found to have focused attention on a specific natural talent - music, math, puzzels, art and such. This is not 'supernatural' in the way that most use this word. It's just enhanced focus of their brain in one given specific area. Music, math, art and puzzels are not "supernatural" of themselves. They are 'talents' not 'powers' perse.
Jj -
mysticart1987
Nov 19 2006, 10:28 PM
QUOTE(Gatofeo @ Nov 18 2006, 11:52 AM) [snapback]1431403[/snapback]
Indigo Child?
Sounds like the over-indulged, spoiled, arrogant, discourteous, disrespectful, prideful, undisciplined, painfully precocious pain in da patoot kind of child that needs a swat on the butt, if you ask me.
I'm 51 years of age. When I grew up you were respectful of adults, addressed them as "Sir" or "Ma'am" if you didn't know them and you did what your parents told you because deep down, you knew they were right 99 percent of the time.
Today, I see children calling me, "Hey!" or "Dood," extorting their parents with threats of reporting child abuse to the authorites if they are punished, demanding the latest toys or electronic equipment and swaggering around like they are the badasses of the "hood" --- yet railing against military service as the haven for thugs and murderers.
I served my country for four years. I'll match my criminal record (spotless) and urinalysis against any of these Hip Hop and Rap singers any day. Most of them are thugs, criminals and druggies.
Who spoke of Hippies?
I recall them quite clearly.
They were dirty, smelly, often stoned and incoherent and only tolerant of those who saw things exactly their way. If you disagreed with a Hippie on a topic, you might find yourself in a fight.
Hippies could be violent if they didn't get their way.
They were NOT the Peace, Love and Justice League that the media now portrays them as.
I saw plenty of Hippies growing up. Perhaps they grew out of their ways later on, but at the time they were to be avoided.
And now, we're dealing with the children and grandchildren of those Hippies. Any wonder why the world is so screwed up?
I'm not advocating beating children. Myself, I was never spanked once by my parents but I knew that if I got too mouthy there was a slap on the hand or a swat on the butt waiting for me. It kept me in line.
Would that more parents swatted hands and butts. And teachers too.
ADD?
I'd bet that 90 percent of ADD could be rectified immediately with a slap on the hand or a swat on the butt. And the other 10 percent might just witness this and figure they better toe the line or they're next.
Consider who first identified ADD in children: Physicians with books about child-rearing to sell, or the pharmaceutical compnies. Oh my, there's an objective source! You think they might have ulterior motives, convincing so many of us that we have a condition that a pill can cure?
Discipline works.
Children are NOT little adults. They have little or no conscience and can be incredibly cruel, selfish, slovenly, lazy, and destructive. Oh, and they lie and steal too if not guided at an early age.
Does this sound like the kind of person who should be allowed to make his own decisions, that will lead the world into a new era?
Discipline.
Give it back to the parents. Certainly, give it back to the teachers.
A few swats at an early age can be beneficial if the child is behaving badly and warnings don't work.
Indigo Child?
Same ol' Hippie crap I've been hearing for 40 years --- an excuse to let your child run free and do whatever the Hell he wants --- to the detriment of others. And when he gets caught, blame the "system" or the police for his predicament.
Hippies! <snort> I was there! I saw them! They were NOT like they are portrayed today.
Indigo Child? God, I hope they're not the next generation of leaders. If they are, remember to click your heels smartly, raise your hand and yell, "Sieg Heil!"

You are just talking out your booty because eve though i am an indigo child i still got woopins and have gotten disciplined many times. It is just some children who learn faster than others to how to talk to people, and are natural leaders, and children who are consciousness enough to learn t o control their world and help people put( an age) just because they can.
These are the children(
one is me) who can control and change the world to their likings. These are the people who are going to bring the world into a new era because the current ways of learning and teaching is out of date!!!!!
The way we talk to people, the way we learn, the way we teach, the way we present ourselves, the ways we adapt, the ways we change, and the ways of just being human are going to change such a s evolution has just hit this planet with a few. These are the beings(
human beings evolved into new ways they have created in their own way and are better system for society) who are going to help out the society into the new generation of human sociolization and economy status!!!!!!!!!
The old ways such as woopins don't' work. I mean i use to get woopin so many years back but they only did little. The old ways of discipline and learning and teaching was too far behind for me, so i was bored in class always. Plus i was super bad before i got into the 4th grade but i soon change when i noticed something. That when i put only a little bit of effort into my work and social interaction that it was easier to me than others who had to work too hard to achieve it!!!!! Also that i could persuade anyone, i don't know why but i can, when i want to!!!! Also i wasn't afraid of anyone, anything, any challenge, or life for all that matters. I was good at everything and smart to boot!!!!!!!
But all that you talking about discipline is crap because i was raised by some people who talked the same things that you think that all children today are!!!!!!!! Noooo.. wrong because some are just misunderstood because the old ways are making them sick and disgusted of the system that we have made for ourselves for our society and is so old, we have to evolve everything including human society!!!!!!!!!!
All these other things people are talking about is not true such as if people who had these powers and abilities really have them they would either be too afraid to say something or would never say anything to anyone because exploiting yourself with a big ego is ignorant...Wronggggg!!!!!!! Some people like myself would stop using my intelligence, persuasion, empathy, creativity(
anything in art or words)or any ability i had because people would be mean to you if they didn't understand why you was better than, and understand more than them at a early age!!!! That scared me a lot because some people wouldn't even be your friends because of that!!!!!!!!
Now i look back at all of that and think that all of that was pathetic. Why??? No not really because i then noticed becaused that was just a learning experience to help me through life and deceive and persuade people even more than i already did!!!!!!! To be scared of one who don't understand you is worse for yourself because they control you and you emotions. With those controlled your abilities are either shut down for the moment or strengthened!!!!! I figured i shouldn't worry about no one else because their words cannot control my life and that my emotions was in my control!!!!! I had to be confident in the gifts and abilities that i had, which put me on a the path to try and change some of the ways that are slow and old versioned for the children of the future!!!!!!!!
At a young age i had no one to guide me into anything so i had to teach myself!!! Things like that taught me to learn how to meditate, control my emotions, listen to women and be the best that i could in persuading and fulfilling their desires, really all that people had a hard time in and thought they couldn't pursue i showed them that they could all the while helping my personality to be the best to people around me but most importantly to myself!!!!!
DhA...OraCle
-Randy W.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
Nov 19 2006, 10:35 PM
QUOTE(mysticart1987 @ Nov 19 2006, 04:28 PM) [snapback]1432628[/snapback]
You are just talking out your booty because eve though i am an indigo child i still got woopins and have gotten disciplined many times. It is just some children who learn faster than others to how to talk to people, and are natural leaders, and children who are consciousness enough to learn t o control their world and help people put( an age) just because they can.
These are the children( one is me) who can control and change the world to their likings. These are the people who are going to bring the world into a new era because the current ways of learning and teaching is out of date!!!!!
The way we talk to people, the way we learn, the way we teach, the way we present ourselves, the ways we adapt, the ways we change, and the ways of just being human are going to change such a s evolution has just hit this planet with a few. These are the beings(human beings evolved into new ways they have created in their own way and are better system for society) who are going to help out the society into the new generation of human sociolization and economy status!!!!!!!!!
The old ways such as woopins don't' work. I mean i use to get woopin so many years back but they only did little. The old ways of discipline and learning and teaching was too far behind for me, so i was bored in class always. Plus i was super bad before i got into the 4th grade but i soon change when i noticed something. That when i put only a little bit of effort into my work and social interaction that it was easier to me than others who had to work too hard to achieve it!!!!! Also that i could persuade anyone, i don't know why but i can, when i want to!!!! Also i wasn't afraid of anyone, anything, any challenge, or life for all that matters. I was good at everything and smart to boot!!!!!!!
But all that you talking about discipline is crap because i was raised by some people who talked the same things that you think that all children today are!!!!!!!! Noooo.. wrong because some are just misunderstood because the old ways are making them sick and disgusted of the system that we have made for ourselves for our society and is so old, we have to evolve everything including human society!!!!!!!!!!
All these other things people are talking about is not true such as if people who had these powers and abilities really have them they would either be too afraid to say something or would never say anything to anyone because exploiting yourself with a big ego is ignorant...Wronggggg!!!!!!! Some people like myself would stop using my intelligence, persuasion, empathy, creativity(anything in art or words)or any ability i had because people would be mean to you if they didn't understand why you was better than, and understand more than them at a early age!!!! That scared me a lot because some people wouldn't even be your friends because of that!!!!!!!!
Now i look back at all of that and think that all of that was pathetic. Why??? No not really because i then noticed becaused that was just a learning experience to help me through life and deceive and persuade people even more than i already did!!!!!!! To be scared of one who don't understand you is worse for yourself because they control you and you emotions. With those controlled your abilities are either shut down for the moment or strengthened!!!!! I figured i shouldn't worry about no one else because their words cannot control my life and that my emotions was in my control!!!!! I had to be confident in the gifts and abilities that i had, which put me on a the path to try and change some of the ways that are slow and old versioned for the children of the future!!!!!!!!
At a young age i had no one to guide me into anything so i had to teach myself!!! Things like that taught me to learn how to meditate, control my emotions, listen to women and be the best that i could in persuading and fulfilling their desires, really all that people had a hard time in and thought they couldn't pursue i showed them that they could all the while helping my personality to be the best to people around me but most importantly to myself!!!!!
DhA...OraCle
-Randy W.
Grocerycart, I mean mystic. The only indigo children are in your mind. There has never been proof of the existence of indigos. Its parents that want to give their average children special names.
mysticart1987
Nov 19 2006, 10:59 PM
That could be so but I am above average than many people that I know and I don't really want a name for it because I am just Randy Williams who wants to become an architect when I get out of college!!!
This world needs children as such because such ways are just inferior to what I can teach and learn always being further intellectual and creative than the rest with no equals only people who are further because of the status in profession!!!!!!!
I learned with everything that i learned and being in a group doesn't justify or make me feel comfortable with myself and abilities!!! It would sound tacky but it is good to belong but i thought about it because i didn't belong to either Indigo or Crystalline because I had both traits plus more but I see people such as me to be the human society changers.
Such great people who will bring the human race into the next generation of living, talking, breathing, working, making money, or just being human!!!!!! These such people are always labeled which race, age, economical status gets names because they are different and people needed to be categorized. I don't think of such things but think of one human race because there are so many other species in tis world and universe, so I think that once the UFO's or whatever comes all that would really matter because then we would be labeled Earthlings!!!!
We people who want to change the world of its old inferior ways of just being would like to help everyone evolve and become furthered into the great consciousness and vibrational energy that everyone is to be!!!!!!!
The time for change is coming and people the human race needs to stop being scared of what they cannot explain and just embrace what is to come and is really inevitable. To further the human consciousness, mind, and the way of living!!!!!! When the planet changes which it is the humans will have to adapt!!!!!!!!
And what is the deal with what that word means Grocerycart, it doesn't matter another(i would say ignorant mind, but just would be the same as what i am trying to justify myself not to be) trying to categorize me into a definition for their own intellectual use of my being!!!!!!!!
DhA...OraCle
-Randy W.
Jjbreen
Nov 20 2006, 12:53 AM
QUOTE(mysticart1987 @ Nov 19 2006, 02:59 PM) [snapback]1432645[/snapback]
This world needs children as such because such ways are just inferior to what I can teach and learn always being further intellectual and creative than the rest with no equals only people who are further because of the status in profession!!!!!!!
I learned with everything that i learned and being in a group doesn't justify or make me feel comfortable with myself and abilities!!! It would sound tacky but it is good to belong but i thought about it because i didn't belong to either Indigo or Crystalline because I had both traits plus more but I see people such as me to be the human society changers.
Such great people who will bring the human race into the next generation of living, talking, breathing, working, making money, or just being human!!!!!! These such people are always labeled which race, age, economical status gets names because they are different and people needed to be categorized. I don't think of such things but think of one human race because there are so many other species in tis world and universe, so I think that once the UFO's or whatever comes all that would really matter because then we would be labeled Earthlings!!!!
We people who want to change the world of its old inferior ways of just being would like to help everyone evolve and become furthered into the great consciousness and vibrational energy that everyone is to be!!!!!!!
The time for change is coming and people the human race needs to stop being scared of what they cannot explain and just embrace what is to come and is really inevitable. To further the human consciousness, mind, and the way of living!!!!!! When the planet changes which it is the humans will have to adapt!!!!!!!!
And what is the deal with what that word means Grocerycart, it doesn't matter another(i would say ignorant mind, but just would be the same as what i am trying to justify myself not to be) trying to categorize me into a definition for their own intellectual use of my being!!!!!!!!
DhA...OraCle
-Randy W.
The Below is
NOT directed towards Mystic, but to ALL those who feel they carry this responsiblity, load, obligation, burden - I'm truly sorry for what has been to you all.
SO umm, when are "you all" (any/all Indigo, Star, Cyrstal) going to 'take over the world' and make it better?? I mean talk about 'ego' - and ya basically from what I have read and not just here - that is pretty much what the 'bottom line' reads - Egos and they will make the world 'better'.
Better for whom? How is it that "you" (note " ") have the answers?? What makes "you" qualified to change the world? A title, "indigo"?? I mean seriously talk about some serious 'ego issues' and 'expectations'
I just want "you all" to know, I have no expectations from you and actually please do not try to 'fix' the world based on your 'status title' - that's like Pat Robertson thinking he was "God's answer" to the US and it's problem. That would have been seriously dangerious!!
I am sorry "you" feel that "you" are "Indigo/Star/Cyrstal, etc" and I am sorry that "you" feel "you" have this 'special status' above the rest of us... I'm honestly very concerned, very!!
Jj -
Araezel
Nov 21 2006, 10:36 AM
If they have the ability to make a difference in the world for the better, then alright, it'll be quite a responsibility. It takes alot of study, knowledge, experience, and determination or faith, to be able to reach such high goals. No one is truly born with all the knowledge they truly need, nor the experience, or determination, there may be those who are born with a better understanding of certain things, but still there is alot of work to be done on themselves and the image they produce out to others, and within themselves. Doing for others, would require I can safely say, to get rid of the ego, because it doesn't really have benefits to the goal of helping this world progress nor helping yourself progress, it hinders real learning. As some people cannot see past themselves, no matter what 'power' or 'psychic ability' they have. Holding such responsibilities would take enlightenment, a holistic development and maturity, as well as transcending the mass consciousness into the individual consciousness. While being able to see what this world as it truly is.
No one is better than the other, at least not egotistically saying. Everyone have abilities that can vary, what a person decides to do with them is up to their 'free will,' or whether they choose to tap into it would be their choosing. How much effort and time are they willing to give? And how much are they willing to give up or change in order to learn and help others progress?
Too much expectations can lead to many disappointments, especially when people require constant validation from others as to their goals and dreams or what not. Many things can change, and it can all alter in a few heartbeats based on new information, event, experience, etc. Not many people see the consequences of their actions whether it be paid by someone else, or themselves.
TheOsirian
Nov 22 2006, 03:25 AM
I just checked in the mirror and I'm sad to say I'm not an Indigo. More like pinkish brown - and maybe a little brownish yellow around the ears.
Jjbreen
Nov 22 2006, 03:41 AM
QUOTE(TheOsirian @ Nov 21 2006, 07:25 PM) [snapback]1435109[/snapback]
I just checked in the mirror and I'm sad to say I'm not an Indigo. More like pinkish brown - and maybe a little brownish yellow around the ears.
Hey I'm tall, 6' 51/2" 244lbs, bald (well side walls) - and over 50, so I guess I don't qualify either... So I think I'm in good company!!
But it is funny - that some of my online friends in other groups call me an "Indigo Adult"
Jj -
rapid7
Nov 22 2006, 05:12 AM
QUOTE(Gatofeo @ Nov 18 2006, 05:52 PM) [snapback]1431403[/snapback]
Indigo Child?
Sounds like the over-indulged, spoiled, arrogant, discourteous, disrespectful, prideful, undisciplined, painfully precocious pain in da patoot kind of child that needs a swat on the butt, if you ask me.

like your style.
Jewels1958
Nov 22 2006, 10:32 AM
QUOTE(wjsa @ Feb 11 2006, 12:31 AM) [snapback]1057717[/snapback]
Here they are again...
http://www.metagifted.org/topics/metagifte...dultIndigo.html***Indigo Adult Characteristics***
Please note, anyone could have a few of these traits, but Indigo Adults have most or all of these 25 characteristics.
1.) Are intelligent, though may not have had top grades. - Yes
2.) Are very creative and enjoy making things. - I love to write (fiction, fantasy mostly) and I used to make jewelry, so yes.

3.) Always need to know WHY, especially why they are being asked to do something. - Omg, just ask the exboyfriend how I hounded him with the why's hehehe.
4.) Had disgust and perhaps loathing for much of the required and repetitious work in school. - Not sure about the disgust, but I refused to do it. lol
5.) Were rebellious in school in that they refused to do homework and rejected authority of teachers, OR seriously wanted to rebel, but didn't DARE, usually due to parental pressure. - errr see above.

6.) May have experienced early existential depression and feelings of helplessness. These may have ranged from sadness to utter despair. Suicidal feelings while still in high school or younger are not uncommon in the Indigo Adult. - Yes I tried to kill myself once.
7.) Have difficulty in service-oriented jobs. Indigos resist authority and caste system of employment. - Had to work as a waitress in HS, I absolutley hated it, having to wait on people, like I was beneath them.
8.) Prefer leadership positions or working alone to team positions. - I almost always prefer to work alone, leave me alone and let me do my thing. lol
9.) Have deep empathy for others, yet an intolerance of stupidity. - Oh yeah. lol
10.) May be extremely emotionally sensitive including crying at the drop of a hat (no shielding) Or may be the opposite and show no expression of emotion (full shielding). - pfft, went to see the movie about those sled dogs left in Antartica (can't remember the name...maybe 9 weeks or something) anyway, I warned my friend ahead of time that if she laughed at my crying I would hit her. lol I bawl at the drop of a hat.
11.) May have trouble with RAGE. - I did as a teenager, I used to beat the crap out of my brother. Though we laugh about it now, as he is 6' 2", 250 lbs. And I am 5' 4'. hehe
12.) Have trouble with systems they consider broken or ineffective, ie. political, educational, medical, and legal. - Yes I think our education system is the worse invention ever (it does not work and yes I home schooled my daughter for a time). Our political system does not work (it is manned by a bunch of yes men with big industry standing behind them).
13.) Alienation from or anger with politics - feeling your voice won't count and/or that the outcome really doesn't mattter. - hehe see above.
14.) Frustration with or rejection of the traditional American dream - 9-5 career, marriage, 2.5 children, house with white picket fence, etc. - Yes I am about as far from the "normal 9-5" person as you can get. lol
15.) Anger at rights being taken away, fear and/or fury at "Big Brother watching you." - Oh yes. lol
16.) Have a burning desire to do something to change and improve the world. May be stymied what to do. May have trouble identifying their path. - Yep but at 48, I am beginning to think I may never find out. lol
17.)
Have psychic or spiritual interest appear fairly young - in or before teen years. -Does participating in seances at 12 count? lol Of course that was just my family anyway. The other two people with me were my mother and grandmother. And my great aunt was a licensed fortune teller.

18.) Had few if any Indigo role models. Having had some doesn't mean you're not an indigo, though. - Now, I see I did, I just didn't realize it at the time, but I thought this just ran in my family....we are all weird. hehe
19.) Have strong intuition. - yep
20.) Random behavior pattern or mind style - (symptoms of Attention Deficit Disorder). May have trouble focusing on assigned tasks, may jump around in conversations. - I jump around in conversation really badly, but I am obsesive/compulsive, so I tend to focus on what I am doing to the extreme.....well until something else interests me, then I have a hard time going back to finish something and most often don't.
21.)
Have had psychic experiences, such as premonitions, seeing angels or ghosts, out of body experiences, hearing voices. - yes
22.) May be electrically sensitive such as watches not working and street lights going out as you move under them, electrical equipment malfunctioning and lights blowing out. - I have never had a problem with watches(my daughter does though), but street lights have always hated me. lol And I go through alot of light bulbs.
23.) May have awareness of other dimensions and parallel realities. - I guess so, I just never thought about it. But I am fully aware of (I don't know what to call it, but a whole lot out there that most people are not aware of....they don't see half as much as is right in front of their eyes...don't know if that made sense or not).
24.) Sexually are very expressive and inventive OR may reject sexuality in boredom or with intention of achieving higher spiritual connection. May explore alternative types of sexuality. - ahem *blush* well you devine the answer to that one.

25.) Seek meaning to their life and understanding about the world May seek this through religion or spirituality, spiritual groups and books, self-help groups and books. - omg constantly. lol
It does not state anywhere that Indigos can start fires or bend water.
PSI and Indigos are not tied together. If you are one, does not mean you are another.
I found out about indigos a while back and I remember thinking that sure explained my daughter.....it's funny though that I never thought of myself and/or my whole family as indigo. And yes I would classify my grandmother also, which is going back a few. I just always thought my family was weird and different than others. lol
And as for my daughter one of the main things I remember about her growing up, it her telling me that she would be happy and having fun with friends and all of a sudden she would be furious and she didn't know what or about what. Finally she realized that she was picking up others emotions, and she had to learn how to shield herself. Oh and she was convinced when she was 7 that she could fly and she talked to a gull that lived near our house. lol It's a wonder she didn't kill herself when she jumped off the haystack.

She also talked to "dead cows", there was a pile of cow bones near where we lived (it was a spot that a rancher took his dead cows too), she would go there and "talk" to them....of course she tells me this years later. What you find out years after the fact from your kids can turn your hair white.
Jewels1958
Nov 22 2006, 11:12 AM
QUOTE(aquatus1 @ Feb 14 2006, 06:42 AM) [snapback]1061153[/snapback]
I've been looking into ADD for two years now; there's no way I'm going to remember the original test I took. How closely the questions match each other is not the point anyway. After all, these tests are geared for two entirely different conclusions. What is important is not the question, nor even the answer, but rather the behaviour that leads to the answer.
I'm not going to refute the 25 points one by one, simply because it is tiring and I have a limited time on the net, but as an example, I'll do the first three you disagreed with, and if you have a specific question on the others, I'll be happy to answer it later on.
Intelligence is not the factor here. ADD, and Indigo, by all accounts, is about behaviour, not intelligence. I am an extremely intelligent person, by all accounts (though not very humble), however the majority of my library consist of short stories and comics, for the simple reason that, due to the ADD, my behaviour pattern is such that I simply do not have the attention span to delve into something more complex. Nothing to do with intelligence, but rather with patience. Behavioral, not intellectual. .... I disagree with this as I am considered intelligent and I read EVERYTHING, I devour books some times in the past when I was not working, I would read 3 books a day. And on the indigo test I got about 23 hits. lol
I disagree with you wholeheartedly. Unless the project is some sort of essential life necessity, projects are, without a doubt, the product of a desire to create. Again, though, because of behaviour, the projects tend to take a great deal of time to complete. Not because the idea and goal of the project is missing, but simply because the attention span to finish it is limited. ..... I am creative, I had a short story published on an ezine just this past Feb. and I made finished the jewelry I was making, so I have to disagree with this one also.
Again, look at the behaviour, not at the questions. People, particularly those with ADD, tend to glooss over certain details and focus on others, and that, while useful in some instances, can be very limiting in others. The rebellion against authority and the tendency to talk first and think later is quite intimately connected. It is the desire to rebel that causes you to speak out before thinking. It is the need to make your opinion heard, particularly if it is against something that you believe to be oppressing you, that makes you act prematurely, talking first, regretting later. I'm willing to bet that there are times that you have spoken out, made people angry,
known you were making people angry, and somehow found yourself unable to stop, and even later, wondering why you went as far as you did. As you can see the conncetion is most definitely there. ... Not really, though in the recent past I did with the exboyfriends new girlfriend, and I cringe when I think about it now.

lol
If you have more specific questions, I would be happy to answer them.
I can't say that I do. I have yet to see any astrological starsign that cannot be switched with another and still have people agree that it describes them perfectly. Everyone that I have seen is so vague that any person can think of a common behaviour in their lives the description would apply to, and call it accurate.
People don't persecute Indigo's for being Indigo. Heck, hardly anyone had even heard of Indigo's till a few weeks ago, when the media decided to start a series on it. People persecute them because they are setting themselves apart as superior, regardless of how you personally see, without any reason to support that notion. Essentially, Indigo's are acting like the popular girl's clique in a high school. That sort of behavior, particularly in adults, comes off as immature. I'm not saying that all indigo's are this, but frankly, at this stage of the game, the word indigo has become synonimous with all those bratty 14 year olds who were, merely a few weeks ago, claiming to be able to hurl psi-balls at each and able to set fire with their minds, but who suddenly today are Indigo instead.
Know some? I am one. I meet every single one of the characteristics in the questionaire. As I said, there is nothing there than differentiates indigo from ADD. Frankly, the only difference I can see is social in nature. ADD is a disability that one must work to overcome, whereas indigo is a gift that allows one easy power with no effort.
I understand your point that you do not wish people to think of Indigo as anything like saying that you are telekinetic, or psychic, for instance. You simply wish to be recognized with the particular character traits to those known as indigo children. That's all well and good, however calling a weed a rose isn't going to change the basic nature of the beast. Left unchecked, it will grow and become a bigger chokepoint than it is now, and will become harder and harder to overcome. Intentionally or not, indigo children, or their parents (who are hardly blameless in these situations) may be hiding an affliction out of a fear of acknowledgement (such as my parents were), or simply out of ignorance (as some of the more 'spiriatually attuned' parents do).
Again, the key is to find if there is a difference between being indigo and being ADD. If there is no difference, then it is quite likely that Indigo does not exist.
And as for not being able to sit still, nope not even close. I am not constantly moving my hands and feet (well unless I am playing one of my video games, hehe), and if I got out from in front of the computer more and moved my butt wouldn't be the size it is.

lol
Sounds like the over-indulged, spoiled, arrogant, discourteous, disrespectful, prideful, undisciplined, painfully precocious pain in da patoot kind of child that needs a swat on the butt, if you ask me. Like my stepfather who beat us with a razor strop (incase you don't know what that is, in the old days when they used straight razors to shave, they "sharpened" them with a strip of leather about twice the thickness of a belt), and put me in the hospital at age 12 with a brain concussion from grabbing me by the hair and beating my head on a cement floor? I guess I should have been Disciplined more, if I believe I am an indigo (or could possibly be one).
Araezel
Nov 22 2006, 08:01 PM
Alot of the characteristics that they describe for Indigos, Crystals, and Rainbow children, alot if not almost all people/children have. If anyone would care to even observe.
Jjbreen
Nov 25 2006, 04:38 AM
QUOTE(Araezel @ Nov 22 2006, 12:01 PM) [snapback]1435793[/snapback]
Alot of the characteristics that they describe for Indigos, Crystals, and Rainbow children, alot if not almost all people/children have. If anyone would care to even observe.
I think a few people stated just that - " alot if not almost all people/children have" - Meaning the character outline really doesn't point to anything 'special' or 'unique'.
Jj -
mysticart1987
Nov 28 2006, 09:04 PM
This is not the only thing that we are categorized into. Race, economic status, and gender are the basic categories that we are put into to say what we can and cannot do!
Things such as saying that we have indigo children are probably really nothing from what we are thinking about. Why? Because the mind of the human race will always further into potential with no limit!
Some who have already been born with the gift of special opening of the mind such as awareness and opening the mind not just the eyes to what we look at and perceive as our reality or truth of what we see and touch, smell, see, hear, and taste!
The human evolution of the mind and understanding the brain and what is what is able to create, destroy, or cure!!
These answers are the ones which categorize the humans from the rest of the ones who don't think that the mind cannot further into a greater existence or life of which we live!!
DhA...OraCle
-Randy W.
avatar186
Nov 29 2006, 07:16 PM
This just tells us people are changing, the vibrations of people. i believe the whole indago thing is just the "vibration". personally mine id not indago, its blue, at least the bunch of times im not paying attention, blue hues come off my hands, once yellow, but always blue.
Anyways, i was born hypersensitive, being able to feel the force of motion, and the textures of things. haha good for reading peoples minds, and feeling the fine lines in everything, by top running limit is "blank" i can feel the next level and thus go their. My little sister is unconditionally compassionot, and my little bro is smart with crystal blue eyes.
I think its in the eyes, for a while ive started seeing people with naturally brown eyes that look green, and they have red around the iris. i believe it does with the energy, only becouse a relitive of mine, one apone a time was very pissed off, and his eyes turned this color, bright green, with red, but has naturally green eyes.
Just has to do with the vibrations of energy,as we change so do our vibrations, emotions generate lots of tented vibrations. indago is just another vibration. somone not born this way, could become this way, or anything els, as they would progress or change, so would their vibrations.
avatar186
Nov 29 2006, 07:21 PM
AH, i just read a little somthin on the other page about empathy.
mmm, attachment, witch brings much emotions, is located in the solar plexus. the nervouse structure is in essence, the superior mind. as it is the mind of the body. in most people, the mind follows the body, instead of the body following the mind. I believe their is also emotion in the chest, but as im still opening my right side, my chest is not connected. although many times ive felt very good feelings their, and a friend says the energy generated by her love for people is located their, so who knows.
mysticart1987
Nov 30 2006, 03:16 AM
Truth is no theory, no speculative system of philosophy, no intellectual insight. Truth is exact correspondence with reality.
DhA...OraCle
-Randy W.
Jjbreen
Nov 30 2006, 03:33 AM
QUOTE(mysticart1987 @ Nov 29 2006, 07:16 PM) [snapback]1444233[/snapback]
Truth is no theory, no speculative system of philosophy, no intellectual insight. Truth is exact correspondence with reality.
DhA...OraCle
-Randy W.
When that reality is based on fiction - then what does that say of the so called implied "reality"?? When the very foundation is total fiction - that is a weak foundation to build any kind of so called "reality" on.
Jj -
Araezel
Nov 30 2006, 05:12 AM
*Sigh* Just because of some rowdy kids claiming they are some powerful and dramatic character from the books or anime they read doesn't mean that everyone who is sincere and experienced is concentrating on Fictional reality. Your sig is very interesting Jj, because it applies both ways.
chel-ci
Dec 1 2006, 09:48 AM
i think they are children who supposely have "knowledge" or "skills" (such as observation and understanding) that you expect an adult to have, but not kids.
maybe its the hormones in chickens that we eat and makin us "mature" faster?
mysticart1987
Dec 1 2006, 03:58 PM
QUOTE(chel-ci @ Dec 1 2006, 03:48 AM) [snapback]1445693[/snapback]
i think they are children who supposely have "knowledge" or "skills" (such as observation and understanding) that you expect an adult to have, but not kids.
maybe its the hormones in chickens that we eat and makin us "mature" faster?
That is part of what they derive to be who they are. The ability to cognate, have great knowledge, great skills, adapting to ANY situation, and some various psychic abilities.
These are children (
including myself) who have been wise, adaptable, keen to observation, asking questions, passed through school like it was nothing, and are going to be the founders of the new and great social system of learning, making money, and the way we live
!!Adults think that children are suppose to be dumb and ignorant but that is not the case. Some children are even outsmarting the adults now, making them know that they are not stupid and that they have learned what took you your whole lives to figure out
!!DhA...OraCle
Randy W.
chel-ci
Dec 2 2006, 12:47 PM
for example "the world is an ugly place"!?!?
mysticart1987
Dec 4 2006, 06:53 PM
QUOTE(chel-ci @ Dec 2 2006, 06:47 AM) [snapback]1447076[/snapback]
for example "the world is an ugly place"!?!?
Such as????
This is the truth and some adults are scolding such teens and children for it
!! The children and teens of this age will bring human civilization into the next evolution and not only in technological status
. Spiritual, mental, conscious grown, economical, social, and technological will be brought to a whole new level beyond what we can imagine or have never done before only imagined
!!!DhA...OraCle
-Randy W.
Wester547
Dec 7 2006, 08:57 AM
Hello, to the forum at large.
Let me put my feelings that are in question as such... I'm Indigo. <- Something you could either peer into and through the possibility, or set your gaze on something else. Then again, it's just a statement and nothing more - just because I come out and openly say said statement probably is a long stride away from gaining the lucid believability aspect put to it all? Or perhaps that draws in more ire than awe? Allow me to put it this way... what 'reality' ? What 'time' ? What 'existence' ? What anything? What meaning? How about that meaning of life people seek at sheer caprice is beyond a meaning? Or how about these 'deeper' and 'stranger' ranges of emotion these 'Indigos' of lore claim to feel are emotions that not everyone has to come to grips with yet? Then again.... that's a rather one-sided statement in my recollection. Who am I to speak for whose view I don't reside?
I say I'm Indigo with just that feeling flaring and tearing through me, (or perhaps not in your eyes? Fine by me. It's no skin off my back. I could just say right now to each his own and that it IS all a matter of view, no less) but I DO know (an ironic contrast to the aforementioned philosophical joist I tend to follow) that these ranges of emotion, panged sensations, and feelings of sorts, in tones, that tend to unsettle me are probably ones folk in full don't seem to... comment on. Perhaps because they're beyond human capacity to adroitly 'make' fall in place with these superficial words, in nature? Perhaps. Again, my interpretation is a bit more open but one I find intensely interesting and cajoling- I'm more of the 'endless possibility' train of thought and impression. That anything and everything can happen and that we really, as humanity, at large, are no place near discovering a supposed 'truth' we seem to stake the belief on.
Anyway, to further the rebound subject of discussion/thought and things of the such - there is nothing wrong with believing or not believing one is Indigo, if that's what we term it as. I'm sure many a person is immensely diverging with no surmountable notions as to who is of what palette or mold. But I feel we should be any place close or nigh to really just accepting that it's a matter of view, no less. Now, does my opinion necessarily matter, recounting the philosophical joist that I tend to follow at my leisure and detail said philosophy out? ...That's for something far beyond human capacity to answer. The resulting keywords being, to further the notion... In MY eyes.
You can choose to read this somewhat lengthy post at which whatever way you feel is at your whim and has a lapse into the realm of your 'comfort zone', if that doesn't put a wrench in just that. Many a person feels special. 'Indigo's, as consensus comes to grips with from which to view, tend to feel beyond their years or special, or perhaps those piercing eyes and glares? Gazing into and through your eyes, piercing you down to the very soul, one could say, under a trembling breath? Or perhaps everyone feels this way? I'm not trying to lambaste either train of thought or either 'side' (which leads me to plug at contemplating why we're in contest with each other, adult or child, to begin with when placidness, tranquility, and peace is what is sought to begin with, in MY view), but what I'm saying at core is to implore one and all to accept that it's a matter of view. And to adhere to this or not adhere to this, if you prefer, at your behest.
That is all, on my part, for now, if that sounds infinitely better.
Hmm.
3rd rock resident alien
Dec 7 2006, 09:18 AM
You have the gift.
mysticart1987
Dec 7 2006, 04:30 PM
QUOTE(Wester547 @ Dec 7 2006, 02:57 AM) [snapback]1453250[/snapback]
Hello, to the forum at large.
Let me put my feelings that are in question as such... I'm Indigo. <- Something you could either peer into and through the possibility, or set your gaze on something else. Then again, it's just a statement and nothing more - just because I come out and openly say said statement probably is a long stride away from gaining the lucid believability aspect put to it all? Or perhaps that draws in more ire than awe? Allow me to put it this way... what 'reality' ? What 'time' ? What 'existence' ? What anything? What meaning? How about that meaning of life people seek at sheer caprice is beyond a meaning? Or how about these 'deeper' and 'stranger' ranges of emotion these 'Indigos' of lore claim to feel are emotions that not everyone has to come to grips with yet? Then again.... that's a rather one-sided statement in my recollection. Who am I to speak for whose view I don't reside?
I say I'm Indigo with just that feeling flaring and tearing through me, (or perhaps not in your eyes? Fine by me. It's no skin off my back. I could just say right now to each his own and that it IS all a matter of view, no less) but I DO know (an ironic contrast to the aforementioned philosophical joist I tend to follow) that these ranges of emotion, panged sensations, and feelings of sorts, in tones, that tend to unsettle me are probably ones folk in full don't seem to... comment on. Perhaps because they're beyond human capacity to adroitly 'make' fall in place with these superficial words, in nature? Perhaps. Again, my interpretation is a bit more open but one I find intensely interesting and cajoling- I'm more of the 'endless possibility' train of thought and impression. That anything and everything can happen and that we really, as humanity, at large, are no place near discovering a supposed 'truth' we seem to stake the belief on.
Anyway, to further the rebound subject of discussion/thought and things of the such - there is nothing wrong with believing or not believing one is Indigo, if that's what we term it as. I'm sure many a person is immensely diverging with no surmountable notions as to who is of what palette or mold. But I feel we should be any place close or nigh to really just accepting that it's a matter of view, no less. Now, does my opinion necessarily matter, recounting the philosophical joist that I tend to follow at my leisure and detail said philosophy out? ...That's for something far beyond human capacity to answer. The resulting keywords being, to further the notion... In MY eyes.
You can choose to read this somewhat lengthy post at which whatever way you feel is at your whim and has a lapse into the realm of your 'comfort zone', if that doesn't put a wrench in just that. Many a person feels special. 'Indigo's, as consensus comes to grips with from which to view, tend to feel beyond their years or special, or perhaps those piercing eyes and glares? Gazing into and through your eyes, piercing you down to the very soul, one could say, under a trembling breath? Or perhaps everyone feels this way? I'm not trying to lambaste either train of thought or either 'side' (which leads me to plug at contemplating why we're in contest with each other, adult or child, to begin with when placidness, tranquility, and peace is what is sought to begin with, in MY view), but what I'm saying at core is to implore one and all to accept that it's a matter of view. And to adhere to this or not adhere to this, if you prefer, at your behest.
That is all, on my part, for now, if that sounds infinitely better.
Hmm.

Nicely said and deliberatly brought down to the topic and situation all at the same time
!!!
DhA...OraCle
-Randy W.
avatar186
Dec 7 2006, 07:32 PM
it is our minds that creat this world. reality is highly subjective, ie the mind is part of reality, just like that rock, the dream i just had, and the vision i had befor it. everything experiance with the mind or body, is part of our subjective reality, mabey mabey?
Bella-Angelique
Dec 7 2006, 07:36 PM
Perception is subjective and reality is not. Reality is an absolute we try to perceive.
K14PUCS
Dec 8 2006, 10:25 PM
QUOTE(wjsa @ Feb 6 2006, 02:32 PM) [snapback]1051123[/snapback]
Has any other Indigos here on UM found their purpose in life yet? Let me know. You will know if it is something you were born to do...it will just feel right, like it was something you were destined to do.
Please note, anyone could have a few of these traits, but Indigo Adults have most or all of these 25 characteristics.
1.) Are intelligent, though may not have had top grades.
2.) Are very creative and enjoy making things.
3.) Always need to know WHY, especially why they are being asked to do something.
4.) Had disgust and perhaps loathing for much of the required and repetitious work in school.
5.) Were rebellious in school in that they refused to do homework and rejected authority of teachers, OR seriously wanted to rebel, but didn't DARE, usually due to parental pressure.
6.) May have experienced early existential depression and feelings of helplessness. These may have ranged from sadness to utter despair. Suicidal feelings while still in high school or younger are not uncommon in the Indigo Adult.
7.) Have difficulty in service-oriented jobs. Indigos resist authority and caste system of employment.
8.) Prefer leadership positions or working alone to team positions.
9.) Have deep empathy for others, yet an intolerance of stupidity.
10.) May be extremely emotionally sensitive including crying at the drop of a hat (no shielding) Or may be the opposite and show no expression of emotion (full shielding).
11.) May have trouble with RAGE.
12.) Have trouble with systems they consider broken or ineffective, ie. political, educational, medical, and legal.
13.) Alienation from or anger with politics - feeling your voice won't count and/or that the outcome really doesn't mattter.
14.) Frustration with or rejection of the traditional American dream - 9-5 career, marriage, 2.5 children, house with white picket fence, etc.
15.) Anger at rights being taken away, fear and/or fury at "Big Brother watching you."
16.) Have a burning desire to do something to change and improve the world. May be stymied what to do. May have trouble identifying their path.
17.) Have psychic or spiritual interest appear fairly young - in or before teen years.
18.) Had few if any Indigo role models. Having had some doesn't mean you're not an indigo, though.
19.) Have strong intuition.
20.) Random behavior pattern or mind style - (symptoms of Attention Deficit Disorder). May have trouble focusing on assigned tasks, may jump around in conversations.
21.) Have had psychic experiences, such as premonitions, seeing angels or ghosts, out of body experiences, hearing voices.
22.) May be electrically sensitive such as watches not working and street lights going out as you move under them, electrical equipment malfunctioning and lights blowing out.
23.) May have awareness of other dimensions and parallel realities.
24.) Sexually are very expressive and inventive OR may reject sexuality in boredom or with intention of achieving higher spiritual connection. May explore alternative types of sexuality.
25.) Seek meaning to their life and understanding about the world May seek this through religion or spirituality, spiritual groups and books, self-help groups and books.
PS: When they find balance they may become very strong, healthy, happy individuals.
Holy crap that is like a full desription of me its amazing... 5 minutes ago i had no clue what an indigo child was... also i think that my purpose in life is in science
Jjbreen
Dec 8 2006, 10:33 PM
QUOTE(Bella-Angelique @ Dec 7 2006, 11:36 AM) [snapback]1453868[/snapback]
Perception is subjective and reality is not. Reality is an absolute we try to perceive.
A rock is physical and real - that we think the rock is a 'life form' is subjective.
I can do math well is real - thinking that I'm a math whiz is subjective. (and ego)
Jj -
ivytheplant
Dec 9 2006, 06:00 AM
QUOTE(wjsa @ Feb 6 2006, 02:32 PM) [snapback]1051123[/snapback]
Anyway, these characteristics were found on www.Metagifted.com. Have a look, it is a very interesting site.
http://www.metagifted.org/topics/metagifte...dultIndigo.html***Indigo Adult Characteristics***
20 out of 25 fit me. However I wouldn't consider myself anything other than a normal human being. Most people I know fit into that category pretty easily and are just normal human beings. Though going through that list and trying to "diagnose" yourself as Indigo is like going through a medical encyclopedia and trying to diagnose yourself with leprosy. Which is pretty easy.
auntiesocial
Dec 9 2006, 06:07 AM
no offense to anyone here, but this sounds like a load of you know what! i read the news article on the kids jan and jen. they didn`t mention the childs age, nor mention any specific "special powers" the children possessed. i mean c'mon, rainbow pictures and m shaped flying birds in a little girls drawing is completely normal! also, they mention that the little girl didn`t even speak until she was three (which is slightly late, could she be "special" in another sense, perhaps...) and "made up her own language, using the word "cookah for cookie." um, that really doesn`t sound too unreasonable to me...or special for that matter. sounds like what any child who was having trouble pronouncing a word would do. we called my uncle bruce "uncle brub brub" because we couldn`t say his name, does that make me an alien baby indigo child too? oh, and i forgot to mention that i had the special powers of big blue eyes and the ability to draw M shaped birds, my IQ is 140, AND i`m left handed! watch out world i`m ready to takeover! ok, now don`t get me wrong, i believe in alot of paranormal things, i believe that we probably aren`t alone in the universe, that some hauntings are real, but this is just total poppycock. i have read every link here and so far not one has actually mentioned a so-called special power or trait (see the list of traits that the child supposedly possesses and tell me if that doesn`t sound like every three year old alive!)that didn`t seem 100% normal to me, like jen having to be told to do her homework...um i`m in college and i still have to be told (granted, these days its either by my boyfriend or my conscience, but i am told nonetheless). i am sorry to dog all over this, i hope i don`t offend you all too much, but really, c'mon you can`t be SERIOUS about this, can you?
Jjbreen
Dec 9 2006, 06:29 AM
When it comes to twins - especially, the event that can surround them is very much the exception to the rules and NOT the rules.
Twins are likely to have telepathic abilities - BUT limited between the twins only. Not 'broadband telepathy'
Twins are likely to create their own 'language' - again this is found somewhat in twins, but is limited ONLY to twins.
When it comes to that list - that is a very generic list, to be sure. The people were trying to sell a blook for pete sakes. That should tell everyone something right there! "One Size Fits All" and if you make it generic enough and "new agey" enough - people will get 'spirtual goosebumps' and go, "wow! look! I'm "indigo" or "Cyrstal" or 'star-child"" No not really - you are just a very normal humanbeing - no more special then me, well maybe not that speical!!

This is no different then ego, super ego, Id and Super Id, The "inner child", the "inner adult", you "masculine side" or your "feminie side" and on and on. If it will make a good buck or two and people 'buy into it', even if just for a season - then they made their buck!
Then after that looses interest - the same author will discover something "new" - to get people to buy .. and so it goes.
As King Solomon stated so wisely: The writing of books is many - and the reading of them makes the body tired..." Amen King Solomon!! Amen!
ivytheplant
Dec 9 2006, 06:56 AM
QUOTE(Jjbreen @ Dec 8 2006, 11:29 PM) [snapback]1455995[/snapback]
When it comes to that list - that is a very generic list, to be sure. The people were trying to sell a blook for pete sakes. That should tell everyone something right there! "One Size Fits All" and if you make it generic enough and "new agey" enough - people will get 'spirtual goosebumps' and go, "wow! look! I'm "indigo" or "Cyrstal" or 'star-child"" No not really - you are just a very normal humanbeing - no more special then me, well maybe not that speical!!

Exactly. I showed that list to a few friends and they all went "wow! that's just like me!" A lot of those questions can easily fit the majority of the population too. For example:
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2.) Are very creative and enjoy making things.
Even the most boring person has something they are passionate and creative about and in that thing they are very creative. Besides, who would admit to
not enjoying making things?
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5.) Were rebellious in school in that they refused to do homework and rejected authority of teachers, OR seriously wanted to rebel, but didn't DARE, usually due to parental pressure.
This is also known as "being a teenager."
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7.) Have difficulty in service-oriented jobs. Indigos resist authority and caste system of employment.
Do you really know anyone who
wouldn't admit to "resisting authority" and doesn't like or has trouble with service-oriented jobs? Besides the weirdos like the flair guy in
Office Space of course. Thankfully, they are few and far between.
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13.) Alienation from or anger with politics - feeling your voice won't count and/or that the outcome really doesn't mattter.
After the last 6 years, who in the United States really feels like their voice mattered? #13 would make it seem as if at least 50% of the population feels that way.
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14.) Frustration with or rejection of the traditional American dream - 9-5 career, marriage, 2.5 children, house with white picket fence, etc.
The people I know who feel opposite of that is about 1 in 100. So it's more likely that people who
aren't frustrated with the "American dream" would be the Indigo children, unless Indigos are actually the majority.
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16.) Have a burning desire to do something to change and improve the world. May be stymied what to do. May have trouble identifying their path.
Again, who doesn't feel like they wish the world was better than it is? Who look around and says, "gee, all this war, famine, corruption, cruelty, and suffering sure is perfect!"
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24.) Sexually are very expressive and inventive OR may reject sexuality in boredom or with intention of achieving higher spiritual connection. May explore alternative types of sexuality.
Gee, either I'm open to exploring my sexuality or I'm not. That sounds like the entire human population right there. It's like saying "either you're male or you're female." With the exception of a few people, most are either male or female.
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25.) Seek meaning to their life and understanding about the world May seek this through religion or spirituality, spiritual groups and books, self-help groups and books.
Yeah, who doesn't that fit? I'm sure there's a few people who knew what they wanted to be from age 5, but most of us are completely clueless.
These characteristics fit so many people, it's more likely that being an Indigo child would be NOT fitting that list at all.
Personally, I see this Indigo child fad as being a way for people who are uncomfortable with who they are to find some way of defining themselves as being "more than" what they are. They can't face the fact that they're human, so they create this other identity to mark themselves as separate from the human race and therefore, special. This is just an extension of fantasizing about having Superman's powers or being from another planet.
A discussion involving a potential spiritual or mental awakening of the human race probably would bring some interesting ideas to the table, but this assumption that there's some sort of genetic change is nonsense. It's just propogating a false idea that there's some speciation event going on in the genetic makeup of the human race, which is impossible under the current conditions.
Jjbreen
Dec 9 2006, 07:07 AM
It has always been my contention:
A.
There is no special 'day' that has or will come that will cause 'spiritual awakening' - If you need 'that' - then your spiritual awakening will be short lived - BIG TIME!
Spirituality is a life long walk and growth. It's not an over night transformation.
B.
If you need to define yourself with BS - then that pretty much tells you what you are full of!
C.
Acceptance of yourself, come from yourself by learning to just 'be' and 'be' the best you can be. That is not found in a "One Size Fits All" book. That comes by: GROWING UP!
nohands
Dec 12 2006, 11:12 AM
QUOTE(battleangel @ Feb 5 2006, 04:00 PM) [snapback]1049159[/snapback]
According to skepdic.com, it started in 1982 by a purported psychic, Ann Tappe.
Here you go: maybe they are reincarnations of monks who had enlightment in past life
http://skepdic.com/indigo.html
visionsoflonelytunes
Jan 15 2007, 10:33 AM
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Indigo, Outdogo...
I was briefly a member of an internet group for so-called "Indigo adults." I use the terms "indigo" and "adult" lightly when describing these people. Although I (foolishly) believed in the whole indigo thing before joining the group, I soon realized the whole thing is just a load of... poopy... Sure, you can say if you believe in Indigos or not and why, but I'd like to share facts- what I witnessed while in this group- to hopefully shed some light on who these people really are.
Most people in this group would give lengthy sob-stories about how they were abused as children, and how people (other kids, family, former spouses) treated them badly because they didn't understand their "special gift." Then, the contradictions. For every story recounting someone's "magical powers," there was a contrasting story describing how unhappy and unsuccessful they are in their life. For example, members discussed how they felt they were a "source of light" for others but somehow could not find a good job to sustain themselves and pay their bills and therefore were getting awfully depressed (wouldn't anyone in such a situation?)
Some of the oddball claims they'd make: that they could levitate, that Indigos are part extra-terrestrial and therefore better than normal humans, that souls of those who died when Atlantis disappeared are now reincarnating and to recognize one another, are born with the lines on their hands forming the letter "M," that Indigos can cure themselves of cancer and other diseases, and (my personal favorite!) a man suggested there is a 5,000-year-old book floating around and that if you read it, it will cleanse your soul or something to that effect. The catch? He could not say what this book is, you must be lead to it on your own somehow (this one still makes me chuckle!)
I cannot remember the person's name, but someone I believe on this thread mentioned hippies, and how they were smelly, dirty and would flip out if you contradicted them. These indigos are quite similar. Okay, I don't know if they were smelly since this was an internet group but they would FLIP OUT if you voiced an opinion different to theirs. Just another contradiction as they called themselves "messengers of peace" and the bringers of a "better world." Their behavior actually showed intolerance.
I wonder about a group of people who need to share stories of child abuse to strangers over the internet. Either these people are in desperate need of help or they're seeking attention and sympathy so they can push some sort of agenda. Also, as I have said these people claimed to be psychics, clairvoyants, witches, and whatnot, but no one there seemed to be leading a fulfilling, happy life. Most seemed broke and miserable. As the cliche goes, why can't they just foretell the next day's lotto numbers?
My point is: the most basic psychology class (or maybe just a good dose of common sense) tells you that a balanced, happy, intelligent individual has no need to tout themselves as being better than the rest, better than "mere human." They have no need to escape reality and live most of their lives in some fantasy. They are not threatened by an opposing viewpoint but rather welcome it, and the chance to have an intelligent argument.
By their fruits you shall know them.
At the risk of sounding absurd and Pollyanna-ish, it helps to remember we are all in fact "special." We all have a unique purpose on this earth that is ours, and ours alone, to fulfill.
Yes, even the troll with the 5,000-year-old book up his colon.
There is no need to wander into this whole "oooh I'm an Indigo!" stuff.
Thanks everyone for coming today have a safe drive home.
Jjbreen
Jan 15 2007, 10:00 PM
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Indigo, Outdogo...
I was briefly a member of an internet group for so-called "Indigo adults." I use the terms "indigo" and "adult" lightly when describing these people. Although I (foolishly) believed in the whole indigo thing before joining the group, I soon realized the whole thing is just a load of... poopy... Sure, you can say if you believe in Indigos or not and why, but I'd like to share facts- what I witnessed while in this group- to hopefully shed some light on who these people really are.
Most people in this group would give lengthy sob-stories about how they were abused as children, and how people (other kids, family, former spouses) treated them badly because they didn't understand their "special gift." Then, the contradictions. For every story recounting someone's "magical powers," there was a contrasting story describing how unhappy and unsuccessful they are in their life. For example, members discussed how they felt they were a "source of light" for others but somehow could not find a good job to sustain themselves and pay their bills and therefore were getting awfully depressed (wouldn't anyone in such a situation?)
Some of the oddball claims they'd make: that they could levitate, that Indigos are part extra-terrestrial and therefore better than normal humans, that souls of those who died when Atlantis disappeared are now reincarnating and to recognize one another, are born with the lines on their hands forming the letter "M," that Indigos can cure themselves of cancer and other diseases, and (my personal favorite!) a man suggested there is a 5,000-year-old book floating around and that if you read it, it will cleanse your soul or something to that effect. The catch? He could not say what this book is, you must be lead to it on your own somehow (this one still makes me chuckle!)
I cannot remember the person's name, but someone I believe on this thread mentioned hippies, and how they were smelly, dirty and would flip out if you contradicted them. These indigos are quite similar. Okay, I don't know if they were smelly since this was an internet group but they would FLIP OUT if you voiced an opinion different to theirs. Just another contradiction as they called themselves "messengers of peace" and the bringers of a "better world." Their behavior actually showed intolerance.
I wonder about a group of people who need to share stories of child abuse to strangers over the internet. Either these people are in desperate need of help or they're seeking attention and sympathy so they can push some sort of agenda. Also, as I have said these people claimed to be psychics, clairvoyants, witches, and whatnot, but no one there seemed to be leading a fulfilling, happy life. Most seemed broke and miserable. As the cliche goes, why can't they just foretell the next day's lotto numbers?
My point is: the most basic psychology class (or maybe just a good dose of common sense) tells you that a balanced, happy, intelligent individual has no need to tout themselves as being better than the rest, better than "mere human." They have no need to escape reality and live most of their lives in some fantasy. They are not threatened by an opposing viewpoint but rather welcome it, and the chance to have an intelligent argument.
By their fruits you shall know them.
At the risk of sounding absurd and Pollyanna-ish, it helps to remember we are all in fact "special." We all have a unique purpose on this earth that is ours, and ours alone, to fulfill.
Yes, even the troll with the 5,000-year-old book up his colon.
There is no need to wander into this whole "oooh I'm an Indigo!" stuff.
Thanks everyone for coming today have a safe drive home.
Hey thanks - they you have it - from one 'who has been there' - and please do not insult him by saying -"well you are not really indigo/crystal/star child and this just proves it!" - No there is nothing to do this but someone that wanted to make some money. So wrote a book so generic, that if "you" bought into it - YOU HELPED HIS BOTTOM LINE!
There is nothing 'special' about you sorry - you are just like me and every other person on the UM forum - Human... What you are is UNIQUE - in that there no one 'just like you' or 'me'.
Why the desperation to be 'special' is beyond me... U certainly have no "special answers" or "special powers" to 'solve the worlds problems' trust me.
mysticart1987
Jan 19 2007, 07:10 PM
The same as people who try to make them indigo is the same thing as people who try to make them as normal or not anything impossible or different from the human race I mean being an individual is to o hard!!
The fact is that every human being is different but the same, one but many!! This is something that humans try to do is make themselves out as something else because they are tired of the human culture and its lack of universal and conscious knowledge. The same as normal humans who pretend t know everything about everything because they know something about science which only explains and brings partial truth to the matter because it can always be changed or altered with science!!
We humans are already one HUMAN BEINGS one race one planet!! We are here to find ourselves and to find what is different about ourselves or what makes us, us. Our potential is to find more knowledge and to pursue the ways of presenting ourselves to the world and getting feedback of acceptance. Our potential even goes further than us because we are one and one of many which share this powerful universe in which we are not the only ones even if there are people exactly like us out there. Our energies, life, and meaning is complicated if you make it that way because life is not always simple and just that to be so easy!! Life and being you and making that person that separates you from the world are not the real deal.
Distinguishing the differences and making us one in the same is what will open our minds to new possibilities and further anything like science, spirituality, and even social culture!!!!!!!
I know that I kind of went off of topic but the fact is that Indigo children are different just like everyone else in the world they just have different qualities or better understanding of the understanding of life, meaning, conscious decision!!
DhA...OraCle
Randy W.
Razer
Jan 20 2007, 01:16 PM
This is just a name for parents of kids that are a little bit odd. That way instead of saying, oh yeah, that's my boy Johny he is a little odd, now they can say, that's my boy Johny he is an indigo kid
YouMustLookToSee
Jan 22 2007, 11:58 AM
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Holy crap that is like a full desription of me its amazing... 5 minutes ago i had no clue what an indigo child was... also i think that my purpose in life is in science
I was just sort of looking around forums and random read that list of 25 things I dunno whether you can say that someone must meet pre-requisits to be an indigo, But if I am sitting here thinking that I completely fit into all of those 25 descriptions. I am not sure what that means lol.... I could be wierd,
They should make it official so I can clame 12 light bolbs a month off my tax or something heh'
Lord Storm
Jan 22 2007, 05:12 PM
Very interesting post. That would make me an indigo child/adult also....erm I'm 38

So is that a set of genric questions that most "strange" people would say yes to? I don't/didn't have ADHD but it was not realy heard of back then. I am not a Genius by any means but if something takes my interest then I tend to forge ahead of everyone....example I did a 3 month Cobol programming project in 3 days some of my fellow students were still struggling after I finished, I ran out of money and could only afford to come to College for the last 3 days of the term. I have always been different, even more different than people who are different lol......did I add mad as a box of frogs? Still an interesting post and of course humanity is going to evolve....
eqgumby
Jan 22 2007, 06:42 PM
I get the impression that there may indeed be kids that could be classified as "Indigo", but it also looks like parents are jumping on the bandwagon like they did with ADD and other disorders, which simply excused bad behavior and allowed their kids to be medicated, thereby relieving parents of any responsibilty.
"Ohhhh, it's not my fault Johnny grew up to be a serial killer, it was the ADD". I say maybe if you didn't lock him in a closet and let uncle Fester molest him he may have been OK.
Same thing seems to be going on here. "Oh, I am sorry little Johnny won't do as you tell him in class, it's just that he's INDIGO and therfore better than all of us, so just let him do whatever he wants!"
Whatever!