You bring the level of the posts down by propagating something that doesn't exist : )

Did you say something about knitting? You can ask the mods to create a knitting forum for me, if you can have one created for you called "I believe I'm special because I read this online questionaire and like, 10 of those things on the list pertain to me!"

Sorry, I just had an "indigo" moment there.

I lump "indigo" in with everything else because it's all the same need to feel special. I apologize if you feel this is wrong. But I'm not apologizing for saying it because it's the plain and simple truth. I asked for proof, many times, and always get the same runaround from you, and many just like you. Always the same excuses, and then you get upset because people want you to back up your claims.

Don't like it, back up your claims, or stop making them. Simple.

The end.

Amen.

A. Oh, I'm rude, I'm well aware of that. But only when I ask the same question a dozen times and get an excuse instead of an answer : ) Otherwise I look at things objectively. But you can't when people turn a deaf ear to the questions.

B. I'm VERY happy with my life : ) Plus, I never said anyone was crazy or inadequate (I said we're all human). Quote me!

C. Yes, Close-minded people do miss out on a lot, it's called reality!

Don't take it personal. The wannabe xmen get upset when you question their mystical powers.

I don't wish to attack Although i don't understand how many people who believe either way find it a good way to make a point by ridiculing another.

But here is my question. You said no one gives you logical explanantions and they all make up excuses. Well you stated that Indigo children did not exist because we are all the same and no one is special?

Do you really think Einstein was like everyone else?
Newton also?
How bout davinci?
Now how many times do you think people told them they were crazy? Probably a million just the same as when someone said the world was round and someone else said, "Nah thats ridiculous we all know the world is flat."

The thing of it is, though, that neither Einstein, nor DaVinci, made claims that they could not back up. They offered proof, not excuses (or in DaVinci's case, what passed for Theoretical Proof in those days). Sure, their claims where extraordinary, however their evidence and support for those claims where extraordinary as well. These claims of indigo children...they are all the glory and none of the work. No evidence, no support, nothing other than a simple claim made based on something that has never been successfully shown to exist.

At a minimum, is there anyway to distinguish between Indigo and ADD? If there is not, and the only thing that has some sort of supportive evidence for it is ADD, then it is quite likely that what is thought to be Indigo does not exist, and is merely undiagnosed ADD.

I'd recommend reading "Debunking Pseudo-Skpetical Arguments" by Winston Wu. It covers the psychology of pseudo-skeptics (Which is exactly what we're seeing here) and the many loops and holes in their "Arguments" - which generally consist of comparisons of Psychic Mediums to fictional characters like Yoda and trying to guide the opposing arguer off track with demeaning insults.

Reading this article really made me realize that they're just like your closed-minded right-winger - They believe the world centers around them, that any other belief than theirs is invalid. They're kind of stuck in a perpetual state of self righteousness. but I'd rather not dive into anything political, in this perticular thread.

... But moreso on topic, I must ask... Since you all seem to know so much about Indigo kids... What is a SCARLET child?!

This is just another one of life's nagging questions.

Fair enough I see your point. In the way of intelligence yes it can be proven. Such is the case with my daughter as well in her abilities. Although i don't know either how much weight i put on her IQ scores but her ability learning wise has far surpassed her age. She has shown amazing abilities in other areas as well though where there is no logical explanation that I've been able to come up with. Perhaps we all have the ability perhaps not. I don't really know what i think. I'm not defending it either way but I do believe some things are possible.

Your thought on ADD versus indigo I would like to address. I most certainly think we should weigh the medical possibilties before just believing anything especially as to where a child's development and well being is concerned. However i tend to think that ADD is over diagnosed sometimes and children get put on ridilin excessively as well. I tend to not agree that we should just assume as to where ADD is concerned. The only problem is there is no known test to really be sure that your child has ADD versus being a kid a few times over. You know what I mean? The way I see it is that the assumption of indigo children is almost like the assumption of ADD sometimes. Just my thoughts.

yeah, I love being told that I think I'm an X-men.
so Right ON! they read me(us) loud and clear, with true social skill and witt.
lol

I know what a scarlett letter is but I'm afraid i never heard of a scarlett child unless it has to do with fever or Gone with the wind.

Up until recently, ADD did not exist either. These kids were labelled as dumb or naughty.
If you can find the questionaire that you were tested on, I would appreciate it. I have looked at other questionaires, but specifically chose the one I posted as it was the closest I could get to the Indigo Characteristics, although not the same.

Yes, there are vast differences between the two questionaires.

Point 1:
Being inteligent, but not top grades (vs. ) Difficult to read, unless interesting or very easy.

Intelligence is in sharp contrast with very easy reading. For one, if you were inteligent, most reading would be easy.

Point 2:
Very creative and enjoy making things (vs.) Work on more than one project at a time, and fail to finish.

Yet again, working on multiple projects does not imply that you are creative, nor that you are using any kind of creativity to do multiple projects.

Point 3:
Always need to know WHY... (vs.) In conversations, I start to answer questions before the questions have been fully asked.

Not sure if you pasted this one in the correct place.

Point 4:
Disgust and loathing for repetitious work (vs.) I find my mind wandering from tasks that are uninteresting or difficult.

I agree with this.

Point 5:
Were rebellious in school in that they refused to do homework and rejected authority. (vs) My relationships were made difficult by my tendency to talk first and think later.

When you are rebellious, you are the one with the anger. When you talk before thinking...other people are angry with you. Conclusion...This is not related at all.

Point 6:
May have experienced early existential depression. (vs) My moods have highs and lows.

When you suffer from depression, you don't have very many highs. You are on a constant low, unless you take something for it of course. But I will accept.

Point 7:
Difficulty in service-oriented jobs. (vs.) I make quick decisions without thinking enough about their possible bad results.

I am not entirely sure what you meant here. Might have been pasted in wrong place.
Personally, I don't make decisions, without thinking it through at length.

Point 8:
Prefer leadership positions or working alone to team positions. (vs.) In groups, I find it hard to stay focused on what is being said in conversations.

What is meant here has more to do with the Indigo resisting authority than not being able to concentrate.

Point 9:
Have deep empathy for others, yet an intolerance of stupidity. (vs.) I am irritable, and get upset by minor annoyances.

I along with many Indigos I know do not get irritated by little things, but we cannot stand stupidity when the answer blatantly stares the person in the face. This also applies to ourselves. We do not tolerate stupidity in our own lives.

Point 10:
May be extremely emotionally sensitive... (vs.) I say things without thinking, and later regret having said them.

Totally disagree. Firstly, I do not say things without thinking about what I am about to say. If I said something that might have hurt someone, I will apologize, but I will also explain my reasons for saying it, as there was a reason for saying it in the first place.

Point 11:
May have trouble with RAGE. (vs.) I have a quick temper... a short fuse.

The Indigos I know don't lose their tempers very quickly, however when they do lose it all hell breaks loose. They are like a slow boiling kettle and when they reach boiling point, you are gonna get burnt. However, I can't speak for everyone, only the ones I know and myself.

Point 12:
Have trouble with systems they consider broken or ineffective, ie. political. (vs.) In group activities it is hard for me to wait my turn.

Not sure what you implied here. Bad paste, maybe?
Broken or ineffective systems has a lot to do with stupidity and should be corrected.

Point 13:
Alienation from or anger with politics (vs.) My mind gets so cluttered that it is hard for it to function.

I don't see the relation.

Point 14:
Frustration with or rejection of the American dream (vs.) I easily become upset.

This has nothing to do with being upset. This has everything to do with the traditional way of life - get married, buy a house, have children, work 9 - 5 and drive a family car.

Point 15:
Anger at rights being taken away. (vs.) I seem to be thin skinned and many things upset me.

Yet again, this has nothin to do with being upset, but more to do with your rights being taken away. Whether this be privacy, your right to vote or something of that magnitude, and not about things like someone parked in your parking spot, or stole your pencil.

Point 16:
Have a burning desire to do something to change and improve the world. (vs.) Even when sitting quietly, I am usually moving my hands or feet.

How will moving my hands and feet improve the world?

Point 17:
Have psychic or spiritual interest appear fairly young - in or before teen years.

Nothing in the ADD questionaire mentions anything about spirituality. Does this mean ADD people cannot be spiritual? Of course not. Does this mean spiritual people cannot have ADD? Of course not.

Point 18:
Skipped...

Point 19:
Have strong intuition. (vs.) In conversations, I start to answer questions before the questions have been fully asked.

Answering questions before they are fully asked is not a sign of intuition in the context of the ADD questionaire. This relates to the other point in the ADD questionaire about not being able to wait your turn, and not concentrating.
My stepson has ADD...and when answering questions I have not fully asked, he normally gets them wrong...because what he thinks I am asking and what I am really asking is not the same.

Point 20:
Random behavior pattern or mind style. (vs.) I have trouble planning in what order to do a series of tasks.

I agree. You can be Indigo and have ADD, but you do not have to be one, to be the other.


Point 21:
Have had psychic experiences, such as premonitions, seeing angels or ghosts, out of body experiences, hearing voices. (vs.) There is a lot of “static” or “chatter” in my head.

The static referred to here is like the type of static you would get from a detuned radio.
Maybe not quite as dramatic, but the same effect.

Point 22:
May be electrically sensitive such as watches not working. (vs.) No ADD question.

The electrical sensitivity could be a result of the body's bio-electromagnetism acting as electrical magnetic interference (EMI).

Point 23:
May have awareness of other dimensions and parallel realities. (vs.) My thoughts bounce around as if my mind is a pinball machine

This does not mean that you are aware of other dimensions. It means that you find it hard to concentrate on one task at a time. This would also be the reason you cannot complete your assigned tasks. This also relates to daydreaming as daydreaming is one of the major factors that occupy the mind at any given time.

Point 24:
Sexually are very expressive and inventive. (vs.) I almost always am on the go.

Totally unrelated. Being on the go does not make you a good lover. What they are trying to establish here is whether or not you are ADHD as opposed to ADD. The H in ADHD refers to Hyperactivity.

Point 25:
Seek meaning to their life and understanding about the world. (vs.) I am distressed by the disorganized way my brain works.

Finding the meaning of life is not the same as trying to organize your brain. You are searching for answers to questions like: Why are we here? What is my purpose? There is nothing disorganized about questioning the meaning of life.


As you can see from the points I listed, ADD and Indigo are not related. They are not exclusive either. In other words, you can have ADD and be Indigo or vice versa, but ADD is not a prerequisite for being Indigo.

Do you believe that your Astrological starsign can determine the type of person you are to some degree? I am not asking you to believe in the Horoscopes you read, but merely the type of person you are. In other words, Virgos are listed as creative, perfectionists and sometimes critical. Taureans are described as people who have strong will etc etc.

Now imagine Indigo as another starsign for people with similar character traits. Indigos are not X-Men as someone else stated...they are just people who share similar traits. Unfortunately some of these traits do not exactly fall in line with what science tells us, and therefore people tend to persecute Indigos.

Don't think of Indigos as anything other than people. You might know some personally and not be aware of it. They might even be friends of yours.
Point 24:

MDH...thanks for the info. I found his book online and makes for interesting reading.

Here's the link:
http://www.geocities.com/wwu777us/Debunkin...l_Arguments.htm

Here is a quote from his book:

"It was obvious that these skeptics were not seeking the truth nor were they open to it. Instead, they were about systematically trying to debunk everything that didn’t fit in with their a priori staunch materialistic views. Therefore, they did not ask questions of an exploratory nature, but rather, they taunted and attacked believers and made claims and judgments about their paranormal experiences.[i] They had already made up their minds beforehand, and would only accept evidence that fit their conclusions. A true skeptic and truth-seeker analyzes both sides and updates his views and opinions to conform with the facts, while a pseudo-skeptic on the other hand manipulates the facts to fit into their beliefs, using selective attention as well."

Somehow, this all seems very familiar...

Knightmeir...I am still awaiting your response to the EK thread.

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...dpost&p=1054933

You asked for an answer, I posted one.

There is already a thread about "Indigo Kids".

According to the 'Indigo' test, I am one, lol ... psh!

No, they don't have supernatural powers - at least, no more than anyone else claims to. They are no different to anyone else. If they are, then call it ADD with an attitude. Where every other so-called "symptom" is concerned, just call it the 'average' human being.

So you're a professional at knowing exactly what these children are experiencing?

You know, I don't think you really have any idea of what you're talking about.

I'm not actually going to dignify your blatantly stupid assumption with a reason why I feel this way, because I think even you yourself know what the reason is... I mean, that comment was far below those listed and critiqued in the Winston Wu article.

I'm sick of this "We wrote the rulebook" mentality that the pseudo-skeptics have. It is very much like its ultra-religious counterpart.

-MDH

I've been looking into ADD for two years now; there's no way I'm going to remember the original test I took. How closely the questions match each other is not the point anyway. After all, these tests are geared for two entirely different conclusions. What is important is not the question, nor even the answer, but rather the behaviour that leads to the answer.

I'm not going to refute the 25 points one by one, simply because it is tiring and I have a limited time on the net, but as an example, I'll do the first three you disagreed with, and if you have a specific question on the others, I'll be happy to answer it later on.



Intelligence is not the factor here. ADD, and Indigo, by all accounts, is about behaviour, not intelligence. I am an extremely intelligent person, by all accounts (though not very humble), however the majority of my library consist of short stories and comics, for the simple reason that, due to the ADD, my behaviour pattern is such that I simply do not have the attention span to delve into something more complex. Nothing to do with intelligence, but rather with patience. Behavioral, not intellectual.



I disagree with you wholeheartedly. Unless the project is some sort of essential life necessity, projects are, without a doubt, the product of a desire to create. Again, though, because of behaviour, the projects tend to take a great deal of time to complete. Not because the idea and goal of the project is missing, but simply because the attention span to finish it is limited.



Again, look at the behaviour, not at the questions. People, particularly those with ADD, tend to glooss over certain details and focus on others, and that, while useful in some instances, can be very limiting in others. The rebellion against authority and the tendency to talk first and think later is quite intimately connected. It is the desire to rebel that causes you to speak out before thinking. It is the need to make your opinion heard, particularly if it is against something that you believe to be oppressing you, that makes you act prematurely, talking first, regretting later. I'm willing to bet that there are times that you have spoken out, made people angry, known you were making people angry, and somehow found yourself unable to stop, and even later, wondering why you went as far as you did. As you can see the conncetion is most definitely there.

If you have more specific questions, I would be happy to answer them.



I can't say that I do. I have yet to see any astrological starsign that cannot be switched with another and still have people agree that it describes them perfectly. Everyone that I have seen is so vague that any person can think of a common behaviour in their lives the description would apply to, and call it accurate.



People don't persecute Indigo's for being Indigo. Heck, hardly anyone had even heard of Indigo's till a few weeks ago, when the media decided to start a series on it. People persecute them because they are setting themselves apart as superior, regardless of how you personally see, without any reason to support that notion. Essentially, Indigo's are acting like the popular girl's clique in a high school. That sort of behavior, particularly in adults, comes off as immature. I'm not saying that all indigo's are this, but frankly, at this stage of the game, the word indigo has become synonimous with all those bratty 14 year olds who were, merely a few weeks ago, claiming to be able to hurl psi-balls at each and able to set fire with their minds, but who suddenly today are Indigo instead.



Know some? I am one. I meet every single one of the characteristics in the questionaire. As I said, there is nothing there than differentiates indigo from ADD. Frankly, the only difference I can see is social in nature. ADD is a disability that one must work to overcome, whereas indigo is a gift that allows one easy power with no effort.

I understand your point that you do not wish people to think of Indigo as anything like saying that you are telekinetic, or psychic, for instance. You simply wish to be recognized with the particular character traits to those known as indigo children. That's all well and good, however calling a weed a rose isn't going to change the basic nature of the beast. Left unchecked, it will grow and become a bigger chokepoint than it is now, and will become harder and harder to overcome. Intentionally or not, indigo children, or their parents (who are hardly blameless in these situations) may be hiding an affliction out of a fear of acknowledgement (such as my parents were), or simply out of ignorance (as some of the more 'spiriatually attuned' parents do).

Again, the key is to find if there is a difference between being indigo and being ADD. If there is no difference, then it is quite likely that Indigo does not exist.

Aquatas1, these test are in fact geared for different conclusions. That is the whole point. Otherwise this might as well have been a test to distinguish between gender, IQ or something obscure. I believe that the questions are designed to detect a particular trait in a person and the answer to that question is exactly what we are looking for when we do tests. That is the whole point of tests...Questions and Answers. It is to establish something very specific.

Although there might be a few points that are similar, I do not think that this means the test is generically used to both detect ADD and Indigo. Similarly you can say that Geography and Natural Science is one and the same thing, if a similar question is asked in both.

Every person in the world can answer yes to some of the questions on either of these questionaires, but it will not make them ADD or Indigo.

For instance, who in their right mind enjoys doing repetitive tasks? Everyone likes variety in some way.

I think that the defining characteristics for Indigo and the defining characteristics for ADD are very different. I do not need to "be on the go" or "move my hands or feet", yet I hate doing repetitive tasks. Similarly, ADD people do not necessarily have an interest in spirituality.

See this link for defining characteristics.
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...dpost&p=1059837

Point 1:
Intelligence is in fact the point here.
Two Indigo friends of mine are very intelligent, but never had top grades in school.
My one friend is a Psychologist and the other a Programmer.
The Programmer did not even finish school. He repeated Grade 8 twice and 9 once, before he packed it in and left school. He is one of the most intelligent people I know doing something someone might consider to be too structured and repetitve if he was ADD, aka Programming. However, with Programming, there are many ways to get to the same result. This is in fact what he is doing...thinking laterally.

Point 2:
Most projects are eiter for work or school, and few of them require Creativity. They are mainly boring. Hobbies on the other hand could be creative, but the point of the question on the ADD list was not to see if you were creative, it was to determine if you could function in the school/work environment and complete assigned tasks. If you contact the author of the questionaire I am sure he will agree.

Point 3:
Like I mentioned before, I don't speak without thinking about what I am about to say and how it will affect those around me. This is one of the things I pride myself in...not hurting people with words. The Programmer is exactly the same. People eventually make abuse of him, because he never says anything in malice. The Psychologist on the other hand can hurt with just a few words. She is a feisty one...but you know for sure that her words are intentional.
Yet, on the flipside of the coin...I absolutely hate authority. I hate that what other people decide can ultimately have an influence on my life. I am not unreasonable in this though. I do understand that laws are in place to govern for the greater good of the population, but I especially freak out when narrowminded people have lots of power and try to force their way on me. A good example would be the type of authority you would get in schools and at work. I am done with school and I work for myself and I determine where my life takes me.

Starsigns:
It is not that you cannot have traits of the Taurean or Scorpio, however it the one that most applies to your personality. I have read all of the traits on different starsigns, and though I might find something that can relate to me, I think I am best summed up by my starsign, Virgo. It's a case of majority rule I suppose.

I unfortunately did not see the Series on tv, so cannot comment on that.
Just because some Americans are obese, it does not mean all Americans are. Just because some British people have bad teeth, does not mean all British people do.
Please, don't take offence, I am just stating that what most people's perceive, does not consitute the truth for all people in a group.

I am Indigo, but most definitely do not throw PSI balls or set fire. That is my whole point of this debate. It is to make clear that you cannot confuse minority with majority.

Aquatas1...If you are in fact Indigo, you should help to put this issue into context for other people and make them undertand that not all Indigos claim to be "X-Men".

I think that the point of this whole thread was to verify the existence of Indigos and not to marginalize and persecute Indigos. Like I said...there are always a small minority who messes it up for the majority and by classifying every Indigo as a "PSI ball throwing, Firestarter" would be the wrong thing to do. Instead the response should have been yes they exist...let's move on. Now I have spent far too much time trying to diffuse allegations about all Indigos thowing PSI balls and starting fires than I would have liked to.

So my last question. Are you Indigo or ADD or both?

You need to get over yourself a bit. What I said was nowhere near being insulting or rude in any way. If it had have been, then I'd find it a good reason to 'go off on one'.

There is nothing special about these kids/adults. They experience things no differently to anyone else who walks this Earth. The only difference is that they may experience more than the average person at any one time.

Try taking this as an opinion before you give me a verbal kick-in, okay?!

Oh, and I wouldn't class it as "blatantly stupid". Again, in my opinion, it's called using your common sense.

I am ADD. I have yet to see any reason to believe Indigo exists.

Yeah, first post!
After reading all the responses coming from this topic, I have to say it was quite entertaining. Post after post, all I've seen are people criticizing each other relentlessly on whether indigo children are special or just people with ADD. Well, based on the questionnaire, I am technically an indigo child. But, if this were the case, what difference does it make? From what I've read so far, no one has really defined why indigo children are unique from the norms. As far as I know, indigo children are just normal people who are supposedly "destined for something great". Maybe I'm wrong, but as far as I'm concerned, no one here has truly explained what makes indigo children different, except that they have "expanded perceptions" or are somewhat "gifted". Perhaps im reading this wrong and indigo children are really just psychics? If that is the case, what makes indigo children different from psychics?

Now, in no way am I saying the whole indigo children concept is ludicrous, nor am I endorsing it. In fact, both knighmeir and wjsa brought up excellent points. But, the point of my post is to simply find out what makes indigo children different (seeing that the quiz was quite general and could apply to thousands of people) and what exactly are they capable of that seperate them from the general population.

in my opinion indigo children are no more special than anyone else, acrorrding to the tests im a indigo young adult(im not a kid), but i just think the thing is with everyone saying the childern give them amazing insight is that nobodies ever listened to children before, everyone has always had strenghts and weaknesses, this is nothing new ive spent time with "indigo children" and they're just regular kids they act how i and my friends used to act when we we're kids

lets just say people believe what they want

Exactly...that's what I have been trying to say all along.

Incidentally, what did you score on the test?

And Shikon1...what was your score?

according to this website "http://www.geocities.com/grumpypumpkin2002/tests/indigo.html" I am technically an indigo child (though the quiz only had like 5 questions.. which in my opinion, makes the quiz obsolete as it is too general) I also fit 9 out of the 10 descriptions from www.indigochild.com Just for the heck of it, I also read the indigo adult characteristics and tried it. But, out of the 25 characteristics, only maybe 21 really applied to my age range ( I'm a teen err... see number 24). I generally scored 19 out of the 21 that applied. Most of the characteristics accurately portrayed me with the exception of 22 (that might have just been luck) and 21 (haven't seen many ghosts).

So all in all, I guess i'm a indigo child ..uhh teen , but most of the questions I've read are just too vague that it literally applies to anyone. See example 4 (who hasn't been bored of school work? ) and 5 (were not all angels.. except when were forced that is... )

Also, wjsa could you explain what exactly makes you believe that indigo children are "destined to do great things". Has this been proven? Of course, in my opinion, anyone can feel special and important.. in fact.. regardless of whether you are an indigo child or not, people are capable of achieving greatness.. it all depends on whether or not you choose to do so and reach for it. (as corny as that may sound). If that's the case, then indigo children are no different than regular children, am I correct?

Exactly. The reason I have trouble accepting that Indigo Kids exists, is this (Highlighted):



Where is the "gift" in those highlighted areas? There is nothing special about someone who challenges authority or has attacks of rage, and so-on. This represents many people that I went to school with - MANY PEOPLE.

Everything else is normal. Well, maybe not the lightbulb thing, but I'll stick with what I said in the other thread on Indigo Kids: I honestly believe it to be a name that was created by parents or the kids to make them feel better/more special about the way they are.

Everybody is destined to do great things if they work hard at it.

My basic understanding of "Indigo" children is that they are simply more in contact with their spirit-side, so to speak.

They are not more special than anyone else, although my psychologist side says it'd be very wise to be especially careful not to be negative (Judgemental, spiteful, accusive or anything like that towards someone... No matter what the circumstances may be) around them in any way, seeing as those supposed aforementioned ones I Have met before seem to be very emotionally sensitive.

-MDH

Yup, i'm definately an indigo ...
What can indigos do that "normal" people can't???
If there is someone here that claims to trulely be an 'indigo child/adult', what are you (supposedly) capable of doing that the rest of us (apparently) can't? If the answer is nothing, than you are nothing more than any of us. We are human, and that's it. Now, what being human entails is a whole different story.
I'm not saying Indigos don't exist, but where are the descriptions of your abilities, and what you can accomplish that 'normal' people can't?
So far, it sounds like Indigo people are just a sad excuse for being an attention deprived individual. Please, correct me if i'm wrong. I am open-minded, and would gladly except some evidence or even the "p" word... Yup, that's right: PROOF.

It's just a thought...

Oh? ... You know, "Being human" is purely a "Human" idea. Most of the reality we know is our idea. In all honesty, I don't think we created this universe, so I don't feel like it's up to us to determine what and what does not exist. This world - Or dimension - wasn't here exclusively for humans and their ideas, was it?...

Anyway, it is said that all children are born still in contact with their spirit-self. It is because their minds and souls do not judge, do not expect, do not assume, and are not provided with any perticular emotional direction, thus leaving the child open to all possibility, so they can comprehend pretty much anything.

And think "Outside of physical matter" while you're at it.

I do not know where the name "Indigo Child" originates. According to many local mediums, blue is supposed to be a colour of healing, hence the name "Indigo Children". So does that suggest that these children will "Heal" themselves or other people emotionally or physically? I do not know yet... I'm just throwing ideas across the table at this point. I can tell that they definitely are very emotionally sensitive, and I have met one toddler before who told me she could read the history of old street lamps in Downtown Victoria... Weird stuff.

Anyway, I'm a little busy on Flash MX at this percise moment, but I'll try getting back to you people later on this when I have more time to study cases, etcetera.

-MDH

23/25

only ones i didnt get were

Random behavior pattern or mind style - (symptoms of Attention Deficit Disorder). May have trouble focusing on assigned tasks, may jump around in conversations.

and the rage thing, for the most part i can keep it in

Just bodypaint yourselves in indigo and lets move on guys....honest this is getting us nowhere

That's my point.

This is the whole reason why these threads on Indigos don't get anywhere. The guys who claim to be Indigo seem to be saying the same old things, and yet they are still failing to come up with the "proof" that they are capable of doing or accomplishing more than the 'average' human being.

Believe me, I don't mean to come across as being so 'blunt' and I don't want to offend anyone. I'm also open-minded, but some proof or examples here would really help us accept your being.


I understand where you're coming from, but if someone is claiming that something exists/did exist, then "proof" is where I agree with Mind_Freak.

The examples given so far, I don't find to be plausible in any way.

For so many people these days, claims in life have to be followed up with evidence, e.g, dinosaurs, aliens, ghosts, God, Jesus, Loch Ness Monster etc., to be accepted as 'real'. We all know that dinosaurs existed because the "plausible" evidence is there. As for everything else, there is always going to be a divide between the believers and the skeptics.


Here's another thing I wouldn't mind understanding: Why is it so important to Indigos that we believe they exist?

If you would have quoted the rest of my post, you wouldn't have needed to write this...

I specifically said "now, what being a human entails, that's a whole different story."
I say things for a reason.

Ok then. Where does 'indigo' come in?


Alright, that's a better start of an explanation ...


I never said that Indigos don't exist. I just need more than generalizations to believe in them... It's nothing personal what-so-ever, I am just curious. I hope you don't think of me as a closed minded skeptic... I'm not.


I'd also like an answer to Tornado's question...

This is only my personal opinion, but I don't think that it is that important that other people believe in the existence of Indigos. I originally joined UM to hear from other Indigos and hear about their experiences.

Unfortunately this thread headed in a totally different direction and instead of reading about other people's experiences, we spent all this time debating their existence.

There is no point in starting another thread on "Indigo Experiences" because it will eventually become the same thing.

No offense but I think that the supposed Indigos (maybe not all) DO want us to believe in their existence, i.e., the other thread that was taking place: "Indigo Kids - why don't people believe in us?" It's obviously an issue to some, right? Even though the OP never returned to back up any of their claims.

This thread for instance: "Indigo Children - Ever Heard of Them?" It may start off in an attempt to exchange experiences, but it all comes down to the 'Indigos' WANTING us to believe in them.




* If they/you experience things, then prove it without giving examples that seem to apply to a majority of the human race.

* If they want us to believe in them, then why? What is it that they can offer us through pure belief?



Prove it, then we may believe it. If we believe it, then what next?

Quite correct. It is, essentially, similar to starting a thread solely for those with the ability to light things on fire with their minds. While the thread itself only has the purpose of being a forum for people who believe they are pyrokinetics, there will always be those who consider such claims to be little more than self-adorned titles used for the sole purpose of stroking one's ego.

I cannot, however, think of Indigo and Pyrokinetics as similar in a different respect. As far as I am concerned, thinking yourself a pyrokinetic is a relatively harmless flight of fanatsy, right up there coloring your hair green or purple as a bid for individuality. Whether or not you believe pyrokinetics to exist will not really matter a great deal when all is said and done.

Indigo, on the other hand, if it is being used to hide from a disorder such as ADD, can be very harmful. The nature of ADD is such that it is incredibly subtle, and very difficult to distinguish from simple behavioural eccentricities. Ultimately, unless one wishes to spend several thousand dollars to accurately diagnose ADD, the simplest, least expensive (and therefore most available) method is through the testing of different styles of medication. There is nothing inherently wrong with the trial method; the oriental medicine community has been using it for thousands of years. It does, unfortunatly, lead to accusations more or less unfounded, of over-prescription. A doctor who prescribes a medication is not necessarily doing so because he believes ADD is the culprit, but may well be doing it it to rule out the possibility instead. Unfortunately, the only way we have to measure the success of the medication is subjective; usually from the child or adult taking the medication.

It is because people have this perception that medical science must be spot on, must be 100% capable of diagnosing any malady, that this method causes doubt. This doubt, in turn, enforces the illogical belief that, since this scientific method is in doubt, then another non-scientific method that is also in doubt might well be correct. It doesn't work that way.

If one is suffering from ADD (and yes, no matter how creative, how intelligent, how perceptive or intuitive you are, you do suffer from ADD), calling oneself Indigo will do very little to ease that suffering. It might provide for an interesting distraction, however, if there is a way to control what is making you suffer, then hiding the disorder from yourself will inevitably lead to harm. That is the reason why I am extremely wary of the rise in popularity of Indigo. It is far too easy to use it to hide something that is no mere flight of fancy, but a rather a disorder that will influence your life as much as any disability will, and that will never go away if merely ignored.

^ Good post!

EDIT: But when are they going to accept the (possible) idea that they are anything BUT Indigo? You have to draw the line somewhere, surely?!

... That's a very interesting post, but I'm not sure about confusing the concept of "Indigo" with ADD... It would seem very different to me from what I know, anyway...

Well, Indigo could be confused with many things. Or, just a name to 'cover up' other issues.

issues? please lets not go there again.

Why not go there? If it's not ADD, then it could be many other problems/issues/conditions (whatever you want to call it).

EDIT: It's certainly an issue if Indigo is being used to cover up something else. It's not something you can ignore.

Not easy to prove the paranormal. How do you prove feelings or things that other people can't see or hear? I am sure many Indigos on here would love you to experience what they experience.

Although I am still researching the true purpose of Indigos myself, I can at this stage not tell you the exact purpose. Although other Indigos say that it is to prepare the earth and it's inhabitants for an entry into a Higher Frequency...I am still not sure how this would apply in a real-life environment. But I am looking into this.

All I can offer as some kind of proof is the following link. This is maybe not what you wanted...but it is a start.

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...showtopic=61870

At least we now have scientists retracting comments they made about Parallel Universes not existing. This is something that Mystics have been aware of for hundreds of years.
At this stage it is still not something you can experience with your own eyes, but at least scientists can prove this mathematically. Scientists can also not physically see other things they have explained and proved in the past. Maybe this will serve as some kind of assurance that not everyone on UM is "crazy".

Just because you can't see it...does not mean it doesn't exist.

But Indigos are yet to be proven. I appreciate the link, but claims are only classed as suspicion until they are proven to be real.

Take this link for a start (I don't know if you have looked at it already):

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...showtopic=61693

I quote:

"Ok ok I'm sry I started a new thread on indigo children. Its just if I was to type this in the other one it would be the last comment."

For one - how is this "proof" enough so that this would be the last comment? Did this guy really think that people would just nod their head and say "Okay! Now I believe everything!"?

Either way, it made a cool read but it wasn't enough.

Wasn't enough? Wasn't enough to prove the existence of Parallel Universes, or Indigos?

If it is to prove Indigo, you will just have to wait until someone with Scientific Credentials say that it's true. It will be the same as with the Mystics knowing about Parallel Universes long before Science...but until Science catches up there is not much we can do.
I can't cut off a my arm, give it to you and say here...test it and see for yourself. It doesn't quite work like that.

Glad you enjoyed the read though. Did you read the entire transcript or just a portion of it. The scientists even claim that they might be able to create a universe of their own in a lab.

I was referring to Indigos.

(Off-topic for a second) I read it all and it's so interesting - something I love to read about, ESPECIALLY the part about creating a universe in the laboratory. Oh, and how it's safe to create one in your basement and allow it to grow, lol ... love it!!!

The results would very much be worth reading.

My turn to be Skeptical...lol. I don't know if it will be that safe. You are potentially talking about releasing an enormous amount of energy, the magnitude of this they can only guess.
"Sorry Mr President...it wasn't a Nuclear Attack, just a Science experiment gone wrong."

Back on topic. Do you think that the ancient Mystics just guessed at the existence of Parallel Universes...or do you think they had good reason to believe?

how about light posts going out when you walk under them, that type of thing is only subjective coincidence the first 10 times...

and please don't call them parallel universe, it makes it sound like "quantum jump" (at least from my one childhood viewing of it). just say other dimensions, that'd make me, and possibly string/m theorists, happy. There's a theory in modern science that requires 11 dimensions, it's a good working hypothesis for most metaphysics.

I am sticking to Parallel Universes as this is what the scientists in the documentary called it. The 11 different Dimensions include things such as time and space. The universes on the other hand are reported to be infinite. I agree that Dimensions sound better, but for the sake of proving the point, I would tend to stick to science...

Did you have an Astral Projection?

I have to agree with you. Although they feel they are making progress on the subject, because it hasn't actually been tried yet and not completely understood, there is a huge risk involved. There is no way of knowing the (possible) effects it could have on our own universe and/or our universe's surroundings.


I think it started with a "good reason" to guess, if you understand me. As you said in a previous post, "just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist". I agree. Who's to say that we're the only ones here just because we're the only ones that we can see?

I had an idea (on a thread about them) that the parallel universes (yes, I'll continue to call it just that) are the 'alternative' lives that we could have lived. It makes sense to me. If we have all these choices in life and are only able to choose one, then where do the rest of our choices go? Who takes them?

This is just my opinion.

I'm glad to see a Skeptic with an open mind...There should be more of you here.

You must know that I do not just blindly believe. In fact, I have a fascination with Science, but what I have experienced in my life lead me to believe that there is more to life than what science can explain. I have tried to explain things away with science, but some things you just cannot explain with what we know today.

I do think that they had good reason to believe...The same why I and many others have good reason to believe.
Although all the stories might not be exactly the same, I do think that it is because all people experience life differently. Some of us might be more attuned to certain frequencies than others, hence different experiences and results.

Anyway, stay Skeptic...but never rule out the impossible. What is impossible today, might be possbile tomorrow.

Yes, exactly... I think of human life as that of a fish (hear me out before you think I'm crazy)... We all live our lives in our own little world, and are- for the most part, only aware of fellow "sea creatures"... I'm sure there are some fish who are aware of life outside of the water they reside in, but they are for the most part, only concerned with their life. This mirrors our reality to the core.

That's a good analogy. I like it.

I've always thought you were crazy, but that's why I love reading your posts. You think along the same lines as me, lol.

Back to the subject - Well said!