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newbloodmoon
Alien visitations and abductions, do they really happen? I don't doubt that in the vast cosmos of our multiverse there are intelligant life forms out there.

(just my opinion) To believe otherwise from any stand point, scientific or religious seems ludicrous to me. Do these non terra firma, interstellar beings come to earth for scientific experimentations? Probably not.

If Aliens decided to zing by the earth and check out the primitive carbon based entities on this planet, they could be doing so for the following reasons. (these are the specultaions of some who work night shift and listen to strange talk radio.)

1) Giving earthlings (through intermediaries, like the government) technologies in exchange for handing the planet over to them on a future date. (possible technologies aquired, velcro, CD/DVD's, nuclear fission etc. etc.)

2) The alien species through excessive cloning could be coming to earth to take our primitive gene pool after destroying their own. Over cloning could have made them evolutionary dead ends, and they need a little terran pick me up juice, to revitalize their species for survival.

3) You ever see a boy no matter his age or current frame of mind be able to resist walking past an ant hill with out kicking it? There's just something about watching the ants scurry around in a mad dash tizzifing themselves to protect the collective hive. Perhaps there is that crude little boy gene in alien life forms and the earth is an irresistible giant ant hill, where they can come by and give us a kick to stir things up. (whenever UFO's have been reported what do we do? Run around in a tizzy)

If an alien species is advanced enough to create a space traveling vehicle that could reach our little corner of the universe during their life times. Do you honestly think they would need to shove metal objects in our anus (Rectum, ass meats, tush, glutious maximus.......you get the picture), cranium or other odd experiments that seem to happen to certain people.

I also don't believe that an alien species needs to steal the sexual organs from cattle in the name of their science. If they could get here to begin with, I think they would be beyond such crude scientific experiments.

Perhaps I am wrong, these assumptions could be based on the common belief that aliens are bipedal, gray's, with black wrap around eyes. (you ever notice that after Spielbergs movie 'Close Encounters of the Third Kind' was released that there was an explosion of Grey's abducting humans being reported?)

Who are we as humans to suggest that intelligent, alien space beings who travel the galaxies even look remotely like us. What if they look something like giant spiders, or at least like spiders as we understand them. Or if they are Cilicone based then why not look like Gastropods. (Slugs and snails)

If the United States can create a super spyplane like the SR71 Blackhawk which has flown a few hundred 'offically' claimed missions, why then does the B2 Bomber seem to fall out of the sky so often? Especially if it is supposed to be a far superior plane. Oh and why cant we make a space shuttle that is more aerodynamic.

The tough part about space travel is punching past our earths gravitational pull. Once we are free of that bad daddy of a physics lesson it seems (from what I have seen on NASA tv) that space propulsion would be a breeze, a walk in the park, or a piece of cake.
Bobzilla
If abductions do exist I could understand why. If we were to travel to a planet that harbored life such as land animals, I seriously think we would try to capture one and study it. It is new to us as I'm sure we are new to them(If they exist) So I say Yes. If aliens exist and they know we are here then it is highly probable that they are studying us or have studied us. Why not?
warped_reality
QUOTE(Bobzilla @ Feb 2 2006, 03:10 PM) [snapback]1045497[/snapback]

If abductions do exist I could understand why. If we were to travel to a planet that harbored life such as land animals, I seriously think we would try to capture one and study it. It is new to us as I'm sure we are new to them(If they exist) So I say Yes. If aliens exist and they know we are here then it is highly probable that they are studying us or have studied us. Why not?



even if it is just our own mind allowing us to believe that we are being abducted by a species unknown to us, does this not still have the same effects to makind as if one did?
for this is allowing one self to become what may be an evolutionary step into the future, and allowing ones self to give feedback First Hand. Either way we still experience the same thing/
newbloodmoon
Just came up with another possibility for alien abductions. Perhaps we or our DNA is being captured for clone purposes to be put on display in an alien zoo. Humans like to think of ourselves as being superior to the other animals on this planet and yet we capture them and put them in cages as well.
Bobzilla
QUOTE(newbloodmoon @ Feb 2 2006, 08:25 PM) [snapback]1046285[/snapback]

Just came up with another possibility for alien abductions. Perhaps we or our DNA is being captured for clone purposes to be put on display in an alien zoo. Humans like to think of ourselves as being superior to the other animals on this planet and yet we capture them and put them in cages as well.


That's a good hypothesis. If aliens exist and have the technology to come all this way then they are superior to us. They would see us as lowly animals and like I said earlier about humans finding alien life, they too would most likely try to capture us or study us(maybe for our DNA like you say)
rapid7

Looks that way; the alien's see us as lowly animals. The problem I have, is the aliens don't seem to just be studying us, they seem to be involved in some kind of an agenda.
The aliens are quite capable of communication, yet seldom bother to explain to the abductee the purpose of the abduction.

hazzard
It would be an absolutely transforming event in human history. But, the stakes are so high on whether it's true or false, that we must demand the more rigorous standards of evidence. Precisely because it's so exciting. That's the circumstance in which our hopes may dominate our skeptical scrutiny of the data. So, we have to be very careful. There have been a few instances in the [past]. We thought we found something, and it always turned out to be explicable...

So, a kind of skepticism is routinely applied to the radio search for extraterrestrial intelligence,SETI, by its most fervent proponents. In the alien abduction situation I do not se a similar rigorous application of scientific skepticism by its proponents. Instead,there is an enormous acceptance at face value - and leading the witness and all sorts of suggestions. Plus, the contamination by the general UFO culture of this idea.

Someone says something happened to them...And, people can say anything. The fact that someone says something doesn't mean it's true. Doesn't mean they're lying, but it doesn't mean it's true.

To be taken seriously, you need physical evidence that can be examined at leisure by skeptical scientists: a scraping of the whole ship, and the discovery that it contains isotopic ratios that aren't present on earth, chemical elements form the so-called island of stability, very heavy elements that don't exist on earth. Or material of absolutely bizarre properties of many sorts -- electrical conductivity or ductility. There are many things like that that would instantly give serious credence to an account.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_conductivity

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_of_stability

I think that the alien abduction enthusiasts understand the need for physical evidence. It's the pathway to some degree of respectability. And for 40 years, they've been telling us that real evidence is just around the corner, it's about to be released, it's being studied at this moment - and nothing ever comes of it.
LiToaLLie
Ever thought that with us being on this planet alien is real but there is also a chance that maybe the aliens are abducting us because they are trying to mix their breed with us.. so that they can mix in with the human. We may already have in touch with alien bodies for example the *roswell* incident. and many other incidents..

There was even one wild thought that aliens created us?! hmm.gif but... it could always be true... for i ... don't know.. wacko.gif well maybe u can believe what we want?? but heres the website...- they were even trying to build an embassy?? WHAT!!! well neywyas here www.raelians.com
Unlimited
are the raelians still on earth? hows the cloning project going? no.gif
newbloodmoon
QUOTE(limited @ Feb 3 2006, 04:27 PM) [snapback]1047385[/snapback]

are the raelians still on earth? hows the cloning project going? no.gif


Well they were French aliens so they may have surrenderd the human cloning projects.
Agent. Mulder
yeah, abductions definitely exist. were not the only intelligent life forms in our universe. they abduct, just like we take animals from the wild, to study or look at.
Oderint
I believe it's both real AND mass hypnosis/hysteria.

Alot of people have probably been abducted, but even more have made up their stories.
shikon1
QUOTE(Prawus @ Feb 21 2006, 01:32 PM) [snapback]1072193[/snapback]

I believe it's both real AND mass hypnosis/hysteria.

Alot of people have probably been abducted, but even more have made up their stories.


i agree with that, though i wouldnt say histeria but mabe a really vivid dream, this one professor was saying he thought abdutions were caused by bursts of energy from the atmosphere, but i dont think the odds match up, he provided no proof btw
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