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I only seen the dots in the sky not everywhere i looked

When I was little I saw little dots all the time. But they were extremely tiny and colourful. I used to think I was seeing air. It wasn't like when I sat up too fast, or had a headache or felt dizzy, these were odd and they moved like a dance, taking shapes almost like people but not. I used to watch them when I couldn't sleep. I don't know if it's like what everyone else is describing. I myself have a hard time describing it but I thought it was cool.

Great post, very informative

I found this picture!

...which I can't paste... but the url is http://www.allaboutvision.com/conditions/spotsfloats.htm . - forget that its on the left.

It shows a picture of some floaters, they are translucant, however mine are transparent, apart from the outline! Can they vary? Is this just an extreme case?

I 'suffer' from the Entopic Phenomenon and Floaters, kinda sucks.

aaaaa, floaters can vary depending on the size of the floater; the larger it is the less light it will allow through it, meaning if its darker it's probably larger. Floaters themselves aren't a problem at all other than being an annoyance, however they can indicate other problem which can be serious, such as retinal detatchment. If they become very frequent than it's alwas best to have your eye checked to see if your retina is all good (just incase anyone has a phobia about their eyes being touched, I know many do, well don't worry, all they do is literally look inside your eye using a magnifying thing. ), you can get them fixed via laser surgery but it isn't 100% effective.

The Entopic Phenomenon is much more common than floaters, all the dots are, are white blood cells travelling through capillaries. They are normally more visible when looking at some thing blue, this is because the colour blue is absorbed by white blood cells, the dots you can actually see are effectively shadows, not the blood cells themselves. Everyone has these, but not everyone can see them. They aren't harmless at all.

Just to be clear, floaters are big blobs that are usually opaque and have irregular shapes, they can be black/gray/white/translucent. Normally someone with Floaters will only have around 1-3.

The 'Entopic Phenomenon' dots are a lot smaller, and normally in groups of a dozen or more. Like ZeroShadow said they look a bit like germs. Here's the closest picture I can get which looks like one of them;



Except they are normally illuminated or see through.


Hope that helped some of you.

It's energy. You can take me seriously, or not, I don't mind - I know it's true. You wonder why just about everyone can see them? Same reason everyone can do Reiki, if they want to. This energy exists everywhere.

To me they've become more than just a 2D cascade. They are beginning to whisp in the form of almost tranparent clouds - it's only because the outlines of these orbs are visible that I can detect them. They also have faint but distinct colours such as yellows, greens, blues and reds.

You're absolutely right, if by energy you mean physical matter.

I see that too! All the time. . .except it's not really dots. it's just sorta shiny things moving around really fast. Like swirling, sort of. I only see it when I'm just sort of sitting there staring at nothing in particular. I don't have high blood pressure or bad eyes. They're both better than perfect! (I just got a physical and an eye exam two weeks ago =D) My bf says when you see things moving around like that, it's the bacteria in your eyes or something. I guess he would know, he's into all that medical stuff. I think it's in one of his books, it's called "Everyday Wonders". It's got explanations for all kinds of stuff like that.

I always PERSONALLY thought it was energy. But living with a skeptic has opened my eyes to other possibilities. hehehe.. .I still believe it's energy, though. . .and those silly scientists are just trying to explain away things that they don't understand. . . I only see it when I'm looking at the sky, too. Usually the day sky.

Like I said in my last long post, the colour blue is absorbed by the cells so the sky makes the dots much more visible.

Entopic Phenomenon I know exactly what you mean. I've had that as long as I can remember. I recall sitting in my first family home and wondering why my vision went all "wriggly" - I was about 6 LOL. It's just like someone described earlier - a magnification of cells (which is what it is) that you can see moving across your vision. I often sit and watch this on long car journeys to pass the time

What I'd find interesting is a case study on exactly how many people see this.

Edit: I've created a poll to try and get some idea of the extent on the UM boards

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...0&#entry1078479

T-Nemesis: 'Just to be clear, floaters are big blobs that are usually opaque and have irregular shapes, they can be black/gray/white/translucent. Normally someone with Floaters will only have around 1-3.'

But mine are transparent!

T-Nemesis: 'The 'Entopic Phenomenon' dots are a lot smaller, and normally in groups of a dozen or more. Like ZeroShadow said they look a bit like germs.'

What I thought was a floaters actually seems to be a large one of these germ thingys!

So what the hell are the really, really small white dots?

Sorry, that's what I meant when I said translucent.



They are normally small dots which come in fairly large 'groups' at a time. They can be transparent or sometimes 'illuminated' as though they were sparking with electric.

To me it does sound like you have the Entopic Phenomenon.

Ok, Thanks!

By the way, does anyone know what these white flashes look like? Are they bright or what?

I've always thoguht of them as the pixels of the real world.

Hey, I'm new! Well, that's obvious, but sorry moving on. I'm truly sorry if this has been a repeat (that discussion is too long and i really must go to bed).

I can see those dots all the time and more easily at night my entire life. And so I thought it was normal...
I also see dots flash only in blue color when I blink sometimes.

But I have one question... is it bad if sometimes when I get up from sitting or lying down my whole vision sort of darkens and I see a lot of dots or shapes in different colors? Or is that a normal thing?

You should have that checked out just eliminate any visual problems. Welcome to UM.

with every strength there is a weaknes, with ever weakness there is a strength!

Hi all
Long time member first time posting.

Don't worry about it. I get the same mostly at night time like watching very dull tv white noise.
I have to really focus to get it to happen, I recently went to eye specialist for problems not about dots and he said I have perfect vision no problems at all.

Welcome UM both of you,
I also se these "dots" but I can move them if I want to..(move them in any direction i want to and blue won't make any diffrence for me..maybe should check my eyes..
I see both white and black.(dots)

when i got them my doc said it was due to rapid changes in my blood pressure,it can happen with both a raise or lowering of your bp,you should get checked by a doc.

Thanks for the welcome!

Thanks everyone for your advice!
I guess I should have my eyes checked just in case. Though that will have to be later, my parents have enough to deal with right now...

@ Bweedy: Yeah, that's how mine looks, but all the time and I don't need to focus on them.

I did ask a couple of years ago (if i remember correctly) and she (my doctor) told me that it had to with som veins from the birth. that there still where "fragments" of them left, or something like that.

the only thing i can think of is, is when i close my eyes tightly or press against my eyeballs with my thumbs i see a kalidascope of colors, and some dots but thats all i got.

i know what you mean. i see more dots and in different colors when I rub my eyes.

I have the same thing. My dots are like tiny pixels and they flash different colours, and I see them only in the dark.

Interesting topic guys, glad I'm not the only one with this stuff!

I've had this Entopic phenomenon thing for as long as I can remember. On a clear sky I see millions of little white dots bubbling around in my vision. I see them more in the dark, but in my day-to-day life I don't often notice them, unless I stare at a black poster or something.
I never really thought it was abnormal (since I've always had it), but in April this year I had to get glasses to pass my driver's liscence test. I got a full eye exam, with no physical problems apart from the already known short-sightedness.

It's funny how some of you said you used to think it was like 'seeing' air/oxygen; a few years back my girlfriend and I were in the park, just relaxing, and I could see the dots in the sky. Bored, I asked her if she could see them, and she could! And she said 'when I was little I used to think they were air particles'.

It's all quite intriguing, isn't it...

I know of what ur talking about and every one sees those dots...thats nothin out of the new...no offence

You got it. The little white dots you see actually are white blood cells that move in the capillaries in front of the retina of the eye near the macula. The phenomenon as stated earlier is known as Blue field entoptic phenomenon or (Scheerer's phenomenon) and is quite common and should not raise alarm.

Blue light (The sky) is well absorbed by the red blood cells that fill the capillaries. The brain "edits out" the dark lines that would result from this absorption. The white blood cells, which are much rarer than the red ones and do not absorb the blue light well, create gaps in the blood column, and these gaps appear as bright dots.

The phenomenon is quite common and just about everyone can see them. In fact, many optometrists use a technique known as Blue field entoptoscopy, to measure the blood flow into the retinal capillaries. The patient is alternatingly shown blue light and a computer generated picture of moving dots; by adjusting the speed and density of these dots, the patient tries to match the computer generated picture as best as possible to the perceived entoptic dots.

Scheerer's phenomenon should not be confused with "floaters" or muscae volitantes. Scheerer's phenomenon is distinguished by the appearance of multiple, identical-looking bright dots that follow each other rapidly along the same path.

You can find more information on Scheerer's @ wikipedia.org. Search: Scheerers phenomenon


Hope I could help

There is a simple awnser to this... Everyone one is born with a dieses called CMV retinitis, which manifests itself behind the eye, Almost everyone is able to fight it off... Some of the symptons of CMV is seeing small like floaters that follow your vision, ( not really cirlces more like cresents or half moons am I correct), Anyway... This is absolutly normal.. Only people With AIDS or HIV can have very serouse problems and should consult a doctor almost immediatly because it can cause blindness, If you are Aids free then you should be fine.. Just give it a while till it goes away and remember EVERYONE has it nothing to be afriad of...

Sorry shady, but your "simple answer" is anything but so.

CMV or Cytomegalovirus is a herpes-like virus that can cause Retinitis in patients. While CMV retinitis is common in adults and some symptoms include blurred vision, floaters (small spots in vision), loss of peripheral vision, and blind spots; In most cases it only starts in one eye and usually only occurs in immunocompromised individuals. Avoiding the primary cause of immune deficiency, AIDS, will prevent Symptomatic CMV Infections.

Thanks for the info shady, and good way to scare the buhjeezus out of people.

Fortunately the little white dots are not caused by this CMV retinitis. However, if you do have floaters then you may want to get a check up.

Yes, I've seen bright dots...I mean BRIGHT!! Maybe you need to get your blood pressure checked hun. Not to be skeptical or ruin the fun for you.

My pressure is usally on the low side 110/65... the highest it's been is when I've had babies; don't remember the numbers for that. Also, I get plagued with migraines at times; even really bad ones I've gone to the ER for...pressure goes up to 175/110....eeeek! My pressure only goes up when I am in severe pain.

What I'm getting at is; rule out any blood pressure issues. I've heard if you have high blood pressure you can experience "seeing stars or bright floaty lights".

I'm not sure if anyone posted this yet. I'll have to read the whole thread.

Take care, Jody

i see something similar to this. i think its noise for the most part....until they make shapes and faces and pictures. one time, i closed my eyes, and the noise brightened to an incredible white and i saw a face in the center of this golden white orb. it was so vivid. anyway. i now know that i can focus and see the globe and it shows me different images like trees and people and stuff. i usually focus on the checkerboard vortex first. XD*im dead serious* anyway. i got my eyes checked a long time ago. nothin was wrong. ive seen psychologists and psichiatrists, nothing is wrong. so im not crazy or sick... anyway. the "noise" also shows me colored aura like bands around objects. anyway. the noise is like dots, but also makes a lot of other shapes like stars and hearts and different pictures.

Can someone explain what I saw one day - possibly a kind of floater:

It was a large scribbled line that followed me around school for about 15 minutes. I saw it on the left side of me, not just out of peripheral, I could look directly at it, but it stayed left.

It was rainbow in color, and it glittered like a spinning disco ball.

At the time it worried me as an eye problem, but I was afraid of telling anyone because I thought they’d say it was a hallucination. The line changed shape slightly but it was for the most part just a scribble. Tall – from ceiling to floor.

Pass the flask, likely it was an eye floater. Just a bit of something caught in the Cornea or Anterior Chamber of your eye. Did you try closing one eye, and then the other to make sure it was only in one eye? Most of the time this works itself out, if the problem persists I suggest seeing an eye physician .

well if your talking about everytime you blink and a black thing appears in your vision thats from where you stare at a light

this somethimes happens when you stare at a light for a while...

yup its from staring at a light, i agree , and the only time i see white dots coming from the outside of my vision and then going into the middle of my vision then disapear is when im playing soccer or something, i get real hot tired and all i want to do is take a break, but i dont.
i dont think its a sign of anything i think i was just hallucinating, its normal. its like when you concentrate on something for a while and everything around it turns black and the only thing you can see is the thing you concentrated on, thats all. both are just signs of hallucinations.
nothing really phanominal about that.

I see these things all the time when I look up at the sky during the daytime. I asked someone about them once and he said that it was just small specks of dust on the eyeball. That was the only explanation I've gotten for these silver/whitish sporadically moving "things".

EDIT: never mind. I just read airbus990's explanation on this page, (I didn't read the whole topic before posting...I sadly must admit). The whole thing with the white blood-cells makes perfect sense!

You already have the scientifiq explenation. This is a good one, and is also the truth, if you want to accept it as a truth. Depends on how deep you wanna go.
But you may consider another truth.
If you perceive the WORLD trough senses, and vision is one of it, then you are a cummul of sensations in movement.

You could say that you may see the way of vission sensations become image. You may call the pattern (the network of moving dots) the support of your vission. If you keep the awarness of this, in the night you may see the space flowing into you as a image formed by dots.

If you want to see the dots, just luck for 5 minutes relaxed to a blue sky withouth clouds. If is a sunny day, the dots are smaller and they move faster, they are shiny white. If is no sun and cloudly, they are not so small. They are more flufy and lazy.

If you use this vision to look above a tree, you may start seeing a blue field near the tree. In the night that vision is more like a energy fieald around things, flowing into your eyes.

The network of dots is the separation between inside and outside. The limit of what you call "I".
Can be used as a tool to keep awareness of what "I" really is.

If the "dots" are moving only when you look of them, then are spots on your retinna. I do not talk abot them, and I think neether you.

All the people can see during a life time the dots (especially when they make a breathing effort that generally accompany a phisical effort or pain).
But they can be seen at will by anyone. I teached at least 90 persons to see the dots in less then 10 minutes. To see deeper can take time and practice.
Enyway: definetly is not a illness since the view mode can be switch at will. Can be a gift if you can consider it a gift.

With this kind of sight you may see refractions and reflections of the light trough the field sourounding a person.
In time you may learn how to see the collors...
In this way you may see emotions of others and can act wisely to help them.
You can learn to see how this fields are moving from a person to another. You may understand a action of a certain person if you see what kind of field is moving the person.

Why am I telling you this?
Because some years ago I would been liked someone to guide me trough the transformation process.
Because you are not alone and recently more and more people realize what they are and what they can do.
In this way, understanding what is the separation between what you call "I" and "the world" will guide you to be one with your destiny.
Peace, force and joy!

Thats a correct explanation. I get that alot, it's due to low blood pressure, or inability to keep blood pressure in the head.
Also, it is Visual Noise, Look a bright light, turn off the light, then you see an imprint and little tiny dots making everything up. This is why it is most visible during the dark.

I think you may have "floats" I have them too, very annoying, you can get them removed via laser surgery. Floats are dead bits of vitreous humor floating around in your eye. They produce a shadow in light.

I've been trying to find out what I see for a very long time, and after reading this form I thought I have the white blood cell thing, my problem is that I don't only see them looking at the sky/blue things/at night I see them all the time and everywhere, even when my eyes are closed. Also they're not stationary and they aren't only white, mostly purple, red, white, black and green. Is this still just the white blood cells, or something different

I'm slightly afraid of bringing this thread up again since I'm not quite sure how quickly this board moves. But I figured it would be fine since I see other topics were posted in after months of inactivity. [If there's some unwritten rule in your society that forbids this, I apologize deeply.]



This is probably scintillating scotoma. [I hate to use wikipedia, but it has by far the best publically accessible description I've discovered.]

It usually starts as almost a flicker of light, then gradually expands into a large area of blindness, with shimmering edges. The effect is generally considered to be harmless, and disappears after about half and hour or less. Migraine headaches typically follow, but in some cases the phenomenon manifests without any undesirable after effects. It's more related to the brain than the eyes themselves, though it shows up visually.

Who knows? I would go to the doctor if it persists just in case. It never hurts to be sure. Though I wouldn't take any internet diagnoses seriously, no matter how often the person giving them types "*sigh*".

Ah, I can sometimes see those, but usually when my eyes are closed, I see bits of colored lights like creating little images and stuff...Usually happens after bein in the sun...Nothing more than eye strain really...

After all this time (most of my life) here are people who experience the same thing as me or something similar. After age 10 when I had measles I could see swirling spots in front of my eyes all th time. They were like a biologists magnetized image of germs. A doctor said that 'a lot of people have that' but didn't say what caused it. Nothing to worry about he said. I wonder if he really knew what causes it.

it's normal. sometimes they are referred to as 'floaters.' you are seeing the fluid of your eye being magnified by reflecting light. there are plently of 'abnormal' things about your hearing and eyesight alone that may freak you out the first time you ever notice them.

Well, floaters are a different thing as explained by my eye doctor. I was hit in my right eye very hard when I was about 13 yrs old and could see one big "floater" that moved across my vision even when my eyes were closed. since then I've had things hit me in the eye at work as a carpenter and floating spots were added to my vision.
They are something entirely different to the swirling spots that are not caused by damage to my eye but are from something deeper in the line of my vision. That's how I "see" it, anyway.

I went to my ophthalmologists a few weeks back, and she sent me over to the neuro-ophthalmologist. When I told him what I saw, he gave me a very strange look, and relaxed a muscle in the back of my eye to see the optic nerve and all that. He told me that I had floaters (which I already knew, seeing as I see those little germ like things in my vision too), but nothing else. My eyes and brain were 'perfect'. He made it sound like he knew exactly what it was by saying it was 'part of the floater family' but failed to tell me exactly what it was. So I'm back where I started...

I see dots in my vision as well, though mine are different than the silver ones described at the beginning. Mine are all different colors. They are always present and cover my entire field of vision. I took a random picture and used photoshop to show what I see with a little bit of animation. They are not floaters, but I think they are more neurological.

Here's the pic I made:


I have always seen them, and as a child I thought I could see air and I remember once becoming frustrated with a teacher when she said air cannot be seen .

I am epileptic, though I am medicated and have been seizure free for over 2 years, but the dots would become more intense before my seizures and my vision would pulse dark and light, like it was closing in.