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bloodyfish
Ok ive asked around and found 1 other person like this. Everything I see is made up of dots that keep flashing, brightest at night. What is this?
Astronema
A few weeks ago i was walking on ice and when i looked in the sky there was all these lights that looked like small dots and i was looking at them for about ten minutes and it went away but i wasnt scared are anything mellow.gif
Stellar
Describe the dots a little bit...
Astronema
ME? the dots i saw in the sky were silver and there was lots!! Alot!! all over the sky but I think they were really high up beause they werent clotered are how ever you spell it dontgetit.gif
Stellar
clotered?

You mean they were silver? Silver dots? You're sure they werent white?
Astronema
Could have been white... mellow.gif They were High above ME
Stellar
If it happens often, go see a doctor.

Im curious... what do YOU think they were?
The Silver Thong
were they just floating or did you see any of them move? Did they change direction at all?

As stellar asked what do you think they were?
TooFarGone
Go to an optometrist...seeing dots can't be that healthy.


And no, it's probably not some phsycic ability, just bad eyes.
Stellar
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And no, it's probably not some phsycic ability, just bad eyes.


Nah, I dont think its bad eyes at all, and I doubt the optometrist is best suited for helping the guy. You'll see why in a sec, I just want to know what the guy thinks the dots are first.
Kuahji
QUOTE(bloodyfish @ Feb 4 2006, 09:30 PM) [snapback]1048808[/snapback]

Ok ive asked around and found 1 other person like this. Everything I see is made up of dots that keep flashing, brightest at night. What is this?


Yeah this is actually rather common. Most people don't even notice the effect. Most people notice it when he/she closes their eyes or sit in the darkness. It's basically visual noise... So basically it's rather common. It's like when everything is quiet but you can still hear some sort of noise... thumbsup.gif
Astronema
Ok I'm not crazy! disgust.gif I just seen them once and yes they were moving in all different directions Like they are it was busy and thats the LAST time i seen them i dont know why i saw them hmm.gif I got kinda scared tho , me being on ice and seeing things in the sky personally i thought they were angels...i though something bad was going to happen like i'll fall threw the ice...but i didnt innocent.gif
Stellar
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Yeah this is actually rather common. Most people don't even notice the effect. Most people notice it when he/she closes their eyes or sit in the darkness. It's basically visual noise... So basically it's rather common. It's like when everything is quiet but you can still hear some sort of noise...


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Ok I'm not crazy! disgust.gif I just seen them once and yes they were moving in all different directions Like they are it was busy and thats the LAST time i seen them i dont know why i saw them hmm.gif I got kinda scared tho , me being on ice and seeing things in the sky personally i thought they were angels...i though something bad was going to happen like i'll fall threw the ice...but i didnt


*sigh*

No no. They're not angels, and they're not "visual noise". I dont remember the exact details about it off the top of my head, but its a result of either high blood pressure/low blood pressure (one of the two, or both) and a high/low blood sugar level (one of the two, again). You know how when you stand up too fast sometimes, you get light headed? This can happen too. If you experience this often, go to a doctor, because all is not alright with you. If you experience this, and the effect seems to increase (you see more white dots/they're more pronounced) then sit down, because you're nearing verge of passing out.
ShaunZero
Sighing too much can get you dissy. And called bad things. Be careful Stellar.
Stellar
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Sighing too much can get you dissy. And called bad things. Be careful Stellar.


I really doubt that in this case it will make me dizzy. As for being called bad things... what makes you think it would affect me in the least?
Astronema
I wasnt tired at all i was perfectly fine that day i walked for about 25 minutes to the store(on the lake) and then shopped for another hour and then came back home and was AWAKE the whole day huh.gif
And stellar who are you to tell me whats happening...how old are you anyways??? and as i said before this only happened once and a few weeks ago i was with some friends and we try to stay up 24 hours and i only stayed up for 22 and i wasnt seeing lights or dots in the sky
But your right about your light headed statement
ShaunZero
What makes you think that I think it would affect you?
Kuahji
QUOTE(Stellar @ Feb 4 2006, 11:40 PM) [snapback]1048930[/snapback]

*sigh*

No no. They're not angels, and they're not "visual noise". I dont remember the exact details about it off the top of my head, but its a result of either high blood pressure/low blood pressure (one of the two, or both) and a high/low blood sugar level (one of the two, again). You know how when you stand up too fast sometimes, you get light headed? This can happen too. If you experience this often, go to a doctor, because all is not alright with you. If you experience this, and the effect seems to increase (you see more white dots/they're more pronounced) then sit down, because you're nearing verge of passing out.


Well seeing dots can actually be caused by a lot of different phenomenons. The thing that tipped it off is seeing it more in the dark than in the light. At least whenever I have become light headed I've seen dots just the same in the light or the dark. Obiviously, if it is the result of high/low blood sugar you're going to see dots & need to see a doctor. Considering the original post was rather terse it's rather difficult to know what is really causing the person to see dots. It is however rather common for the mind to construe visual noise... the brain always likes to stay at work. It could also very well mean the poster has cataracts. There really is no way to really know through such a terse post. Anyway, bottom line, when in doubt & something "funny" is going on see a doctor. Never hurts to get a second opinion.
ShaunZero
Well if the docotors tell the guy/girl nothing is wrong, then Stellar will have to come up with another idea. Stellar's idea is however possible. But it can be many things.
Astronema
Umm "Zero shadow" i never said it would affect me hmm.gif and it wasnt night it was during the day but i'm not to sure what time it was
ShaunZero
I was talking to Stellar, lol.
Astronema
lol thumbsup.gif
Stellar
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I wasnt tired at all i was perfectly fine that day i walked for about 25 minutes to the store(on the lake) and then shopped for another hour and then came back home and was AWAKE the whole day huh.gif


It doesnt matter if you are awake or tired or not. You can be perfectly awake yet have an abnormal blood pressure or blood sugar level.

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And stellar who are you to tell me whats happening...


Someone who knows what they're talking about.

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how old are you anyways???


rolleyes.gif

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and as i said before this only happened once and a few weeks ago i was with some friends and we try to stay up 24 hours and i only stayed up for 22 and i wasnt seeing lights or dots in the sky


*sigh* It doesnt happen all the time, and it doesnt necessairly happen every time you're tired.

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What makes you think that I think it would affect you?


Why else would you mention it if you didnt think it was important for me to be aware of it?

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Well seeing dots can actually be caused by a lot of different phenomenons.


I have no doubt that it could. I just mentioned the common ones off the top of my head.

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It is however rather common for the mind to construe visual noise... the brain always likes to stay at work.


If you wish to name it "visual noise" go ahead, but its not just some ordinary thing.

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Well if the docotors tell the guy/girl nothing is wrong, then Stellar will have to come up with another idea.


Nothing has to be "wrong" with you when you go to the doctor. Nothing is wrong with me, but I've experienced these "dots" before. At the time, there was something "wrong" with me (wrong=abnormal)

ShaunZero
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Why else would you mention it if you didnt think it was important for me to be aware of it?


Incase you passed out. I wouldn't want that to happen to you now would I? It doesn't matter to me if you care about your well being or not.

Oh come on now, if you have blood pressure problems I can safley say something is "wrong" with you. You don't have to get all techniqule. When someone looks sick, what do most people ask them? "Is anything wrong"?


Anyway, I didn't claim there had to be something wrong with him to go to the doctor now did I?
Ashiene
yeah, this always happens to me. When i look at the sky (it must be bright, not cloudy), I'll always see small 1mm in diameter dots that are transclucent they are flashing all across my field of vision, but only in those parts that have light. if i look into my room i wont be able to see these dots flashing. there can be thousands of these dots at any one time, but fortunately they dont affect my vision at all. and they are not floaters.
ShaunZero
Well if you only see them when looking at the sky, that's very interesting.
Astronema
Hmm where is stellar when you need her disgust.gif
ShaunZero
happy.gif! Stellar is a guy. =p
Ashiene
QUOTE(ZeroShadow @ Feb 5 2006, 01:37 PM) [snapback]1049005[/snapback]

Well if you only see them when looking at the sky, that's very interesting.


yes, i can only see the dots when there is sunlight, not just any kind of light.
Astronema
Ahh Asheine
Where do you livE?
I live in Canada in N.T
Jenn
I have also seen these and I have been to the optometrist who looked into the back of my eyes, tested the pressure and did a visual fields test. I had no other symptoms other than seeing these dots and she found the optic nerves were a bit swollen and the pressure on my eyes was up, which basically led to her to order me to the hospital where I was immediately seen and tested in a range of things to find out exactly what was going on.

Long story short, was diagnosed with Benign Intercranial something something (sorry, am still on the medication for it...) which translated into meaning I have excess fluid around my brain.
Which we wouldn't have found if not for these dots.

So in the end if it's worrying you, getting a check up may just reassure you.
Ashiene
QUOTE(Astronema @ Feb 5 2006, 01:55 PM) [snapback]1049032[/snapback]

Ahh Asheine
Where do you livE?
I live in Canada in N.T


i live in Singapore, South-East Asia..its really bright and sunny here coz im near the equator, just a few kilometres from it. and i see these dots everytime i look into the sky..they're faint and distant but plentiful...
Kuahji
QUOTE(Ashiene @ Feb 5 2006, 01:28 AM) [snapback]1049069[/snapback]

i live in Singapore, South-East Asia..its really bright and sunny here coz im near the equator, just a few kilometres from it. and i see these dots everytime i look into the sky..they're faint and distant but plentiful...


hmm... interesting. Don't think I ever tried that. Is it like the same kind of dots you see in light when it comes through the window? I mean is it like dust or something?
Ashiene
QUOTE(Kuahji @ Feb 5 2006, 02:31 PM) [snapback]1049071[/snapback]

hmm... interesting. Don't think I ever tried that. Is it like the same kind of dots you see in light when it comes through the window? I mean is it like dust or something?


no, these dots are round, unlike dust which is curly and long..btw i see dust everywhere but only get to see these dots when i look INTO the BRIGHT sky...there MUST be sunlight or i wont be able to see them.. uhh i dont think the dots move, just flash in and out of my vision quickly..
ShaunZero
I see dust somtimes as well, it actualy looks like "Germs" it's wierd. I have to focus my eyes on "nothing-ness", and I can only do it outside. It looks identicle to those long germy things wich can be seen under a mirco scope. and they're usualy falling down when I see them.
Ashiene
QUOTE(ZeroShadow @ Feb 5 2006, 03:38 PM) [snapback]1049132[/snapback]

I see dust somtimes as well, it actualy looks like "Germs" it's wierd. I have to focus my eyes on "nothing-ness", and I can only do it outside. It looks identicle to those long germy things wich can be seen under a mirco scope. and they're usualy falling down when I see them.


yep somethin like that
nativechick1989
Could be the on-set of migraines . . some migraine suffers report 'dotted vision' as one of the symptoms.
jcb33
I have had this happen since i was a child, i look up at the sky, and i see million of tiny sparkling dots floating around, some seem as tho they are the currents of the wind.....its very odd
Stellar
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Incase you passed out.


:/ O..k... I fail to see the connection, but, ok...

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Oh come on now, if you have blood pressure problems I can safley say something is "wrong" with you. You don't have to get all techniqule. When someone looks sick, what do most people ask them? "Is anything wrong"?


Anyway, I didn't claim there had to be something wrong with him to go to the doctor now did I?


I didnt say you did say that. I did say that there could be nothing wrong with the person at the time that he goes to the doctor.

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yeah, this always happens to me. When i look at the sky (it must be bright, not cloudy), I'll always see small 1mm in diameter dots that are transclucent they are flashing all across my field of vision, but only in those parts that have light. if i look into my room i wont be able to see these dots flashing. there can be thousands of these dots at any one time, but fortunately they dont affect my vision at all. and they are not floaters.


You have pretty much described what I'm talking about. I figure you cant see them in the dark (or cant see them as well in the dark) sometimes because sometimes you need external stimuli...

What are floaters though?

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yes, i can only see the dots when there is sunlight, not just any kind of light.


Hmm, thats interesting. I dont know what to say about that one.

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i live in Singapore, South-East Asia..its really bright and sunny here coz im near the equator, just a few kilometres from it. and i see these dots everytime i look into the sky..they're faint and distant but plentiful...


It happens every time, hmm? Next time you're outside, try this. Before looking up into the sky, lie down on your back, tell me then if you still see them.
TooFarGone
Don't look at the sun, lol.




Seriously though, I'd really go see a doctor if this happenbs often.
Rykster
Stellar: These are "floaters."

Also "Lie down on your back." I think what Stellar is refering to here is known as "Orthostatic hypotension. It is a condition in which a sudden change in posture such as standing up or sitting up quickly causes a sudden and dramatic drop in blood pressure. People with this condition will often feel dizzy, have visual disturbances and may even lose conciouness.

I doubt that just looking up while already standing would do it, but what the heck. I like the idea of trying it from a different position just to see if the phenomena repeats itself.
Astronema
disgust.gif Ahem! When I seen these shiny dots there not close and they were not falling down...They were in the sky traveling threw each other, And i remeber a long time ago i was traveling in a car on this ice road and then i had binoculars and i looked in the sky and there wear all these dots going really fast around each other...thats all i remeber and i was young i think about 3 or 4 and this was way up north!
Daughter of the Nine Moons
Whats wrong with seeing Dots? grin2.gif tongue.gif


My thoughts were floaters too. Or a retinal tear. I recommend a visit to the doctor thumbsup.gif
jcb33
Considering many of us see them....... maybe we should have a group doctor visit lol ohmy.gif
Ashiene
tthis is a very strange phenomena
Bebi
QUOTE(Rykster @ Feb 5 2006, 05:41 PM) [snapback]1049494[/snapback]

Also "Lie down on your back." I think what Stellar is refering to here is known as "Orthostatic hypotension. It is a condition in which a sudden change in posture such as standing up or sitting up quickly causes a sudden and dramatic drop in blood pressure. People with this condition will often feel dizzy, have visual disturbances and may even lose conciouness.


Ahhhh that's the name for it thanks thumbsup.gif I get this a lot, due to natural low BP. When I was pregnant my BP settled at around 90/50, normally it's around the 100/60 - 110/70 mark. I'm always getting those pesky floaters, and often faint - standing up too fast is a sure fire way to bring it on, also straining the eyes can do it. (shaving my pits is an ordeal LOL) The docs put it down to my BP and just seem to want to congratulate me on having less chance of high BP problems, never gave me a name for it and the only advice I got was "don't stand up too fast" happy.gif

QUOTE(Astronema @ Feb 5 2006, 04:54 AM) [snapback]1048946[/snapback]

And stellar who are you to tell me whats happening...how old are you anyways???


That was quite rude and aggressive... Stellar is simply giving you suggestions based on experience. Age also has absolutely nothing to do with intelligence/experience, I know of teenagers who are far more mature than my mother-in-law rolleyes.gif
Knightmeir
QUOTE(ZeroShadow @ Feb 5 2006, 01:38 AM) [snapback]1049132[/snapback]

I see dust somtimes as well, it actualy looks like "Germs" it's wierd. I have to focus my eyes on "nothing-ness", and I can only do it outside. It looks identicle to those long germy things wich can be seen under a mirco scope. and they're usualy falling down when I see them.



QUOTE(Rykster @ Feb 5 2006, 11:41 AM) [snapback]1049494[/snapback]

Stellar: These are "floaters."

Also "Lie down on your back." I think what Stellar is refering to here is known as "Orthostatic hypotension. It is a condition in which a sudden change in posture such as standing up or sitting up quickly causes a sudden and dramatic drop in blood pressure. People with this condition will often feel dizzy, have visual disturbances and may even lose conciouness.

I doubt that just looking up while already standing would do it, but what the heck. I like the idea of trying it from a different position just to see if the phenomena repeats itself.


Sums it up nicely, although I didn't realize that these floaters were from my own eyes... I figured the stuff I've seen to be dust or something that landed on my eyes.

Looking up at the sky (great uniform light source) is the best way for me to see them. It's like looking at pond water under a microscope, you see what looks like single cell creatures floating by. Of course, it's not as thick and creamy as some disgusting pond water : )
aaaaa
Hello!

Where ever I look there appears to be white dots, but they dont seem to obstruct my vision. I have had these a long time, I would say they wern't as bad now as they were. Should I be concerned? I am going to the hospital to have my eyes looked at anyway (different pupil sizes). I am sure they will pick it up if there is anything wrong!

P.S - Everyone I asked claimed to have the same problem when in the dark.
aaaaa
Hello there! I found out what these mysterious dots are!

It is called Entopic Phenomenon. It is when you can see your own white blood vessels inside your eye.The Entopic phenomenon or (Scheerer's phenomenon) is when you one can actually visualise blood flow through the retinal blood vessels. We all have the potential to see the blood flow but most of us are able to ignore this. Some people may become suddenly aware of this and this sudden awareness may lead to the idea that there is a problem with the eyes, when actually there is not. This moving dots effect are actually leukocytes, or white blood cells (WBC), which move along through the blood-filled capillaries.

I also experience floaters. If a spot or shadowy shape passes in front of your field of vision or to the side, you are seeing a floater. Because they are inside your eye, they move with your eyes when you try to see them. You may also see flashes of light. These flashes occur more often in older people as the vitreous humor thickens and tugs on the light-sensitive retina. They may be a warning sign of a detached retina. Flashes also occur after a blow to the head, often called "seeing stars."

different
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