ominojacu
Feb 5 2006, 07:49 AM
Hi, I new to this forum. I am hoping to find some people who have had similar experiences to mine so that I can better understand them. First of all I would like to mention that I don't believe in extraterrestrials visiting the earth. I do not believe that what is happening to me is real in a physical sense. I do believe what is happening is more then your typical nightmare however. I have been haveing these dreams on and off since I was a teen, Several features make them standout, they all are quite lucid, they all involve periods in which I awake but I am unable to move. and many involve out of the body experiences or floating. They all have creatures that are not human involved, three types, one that is hooded, short, black, as if made of shadow. One that is the typical Alien figure child like with a large head, another that is a bigger and lanker version. In all the dreams I am communicating with these creatures via telepathy and unlike normal dreams I lack any control over the events that take place. Here is a discription of my last such dream:
I am sleeping, once again I 've gone to bed too late, a factor that of late has preceded this kind of dream. I am in the state of falling asleep, and yet still aware of my surroundings. A bright light fills the room. A soft voice within my on head, pretending to be my own thoughts, tells me to go back to sleep, that I will not want to be aware of what was to happen next. I resist it, and attempt to awaken myself I open my eyes but find that I am paralysed I am unable to move but able to see, I feel hands on me, lifting me, I feel as though I 've been pulled from my body. Standing next to my bed now and fully aware I see one of type two creatures metioned above looking over my daughters crib staring at her with a look of love or wonder. Strangly he was a gold color and was glowing, usually they are greyish in appearance. I was very fearful and began pleading that it leave the baby alone. I try to invoke the name of god against it, I am a religious person and this something that I have tried often with no success, this time as in the past I am unable to speak the name, the harder I try the harder it becomes to speak at all. This one is very powerful usually I am capable of some resistance, but today I seem to not even be able to break the creatures focus. Just then one of the tall lanky ones comes through the bed room door bent at the knees and the waiste to fit into the room. I am instantly filled wth a sense of great dread, as they are the ones that do the work, such carrying one off for torture. He comes through the door and is wearing my wifes clothes, a joke, they are often jovial and light hearted joking around like innocent children even when they are pealing the skin from your body. I was not amused, The lanky creature grabbed me up and I awoke the next day remembering nothing else.
Rainbow Rowan
Feb 5 2006, 08:03 AM
So did you actually have skin peeled from your body when you awoke?
ominojacu
Feb 5 2006, 08:15 AM
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So did you actually have skin peeled from your body when you awoke?
Never any physical signs, but the dreams often involve painful and meaningless procedures. I've never experienced pain in a dream other then in these types.
Rykster
Feb 5 2006, 08:17 AM
I know I am going to be beaten for this but here goes.
This has happened to me many times over the years, but not in the past 6 or 7. What you are refering to is known as "sleep paralysis." When we enter R.E.M. sleep, our brain sends out neurotransmitters that paralyse our body. Effectively "turning off" our ability to move. This is for a good reason. It would be unsafe should we act out physically on the dreams going on in our minds.
Interestingly, these episodes are more apt to happen when we are stressed or overtired. Sometimes the mechanisms get out of sync and we awaken before the brain turns our other functions back on. Thus the paralysis.
It is a scary state. Not quite asleep, not quite awake. Hovering between the two. Often a sense of menace and even panic will accompany the episodes. I know it has frightened the hell out of me. I can remember trying to move and feel like my body was "asleep" (much as when a leg falls asleep) but a much more intense sensation. I was also frustratingly unable to speak.
Natural phenomena, scary none the less.
ominojacu
Feb 5 2006, 08:31 AM
QUOTE(Rykster @ Feb 5 2006, 03:17 AM) [snapback]1049176[/snapback]
I know I am going to be beaten for this but here goes.
This has happened to me many times over the years, but not in the past 6 or 7. What you are refering to is known as "sleep paralysis." When we enter R.E.M. sleep, our brain sends out neurotransmitters that paralyse our body. Effectively "turning off" our ability to move. This is for a good reason. It would be unsafe should we act out physically on the dreams going on in our minds.
Interestingly, these episodes are more apt to happen when we are stressed or overtired. Sometimes the mechanisms get out of sync and we awaken before the brain turns our other functions back on. Thus the paralysis.
It is a scary state. Not quite asleep, not quite awake. Hovering between the two. Often a sense of menace and even panic will accompany the episodes. I know it has frightened the hell out of me. I can remember trying to move and feel like my body was "asleep" (much as when a leg falls asleep) but a much more intense sensation. I was also frustratingly unable to speak.
Natural phenomena, scary none the less.
I've no doubt that it is a natural phenomenon, but there is more going on then sleep paralysis, the creatures and other events are always present in some form. I beleive that this is some kind of electrical disturbance in the brain, of which the sleep paralysis is one symptum.
Rykster
Feb 5 2006, 08:39 AM
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I've no doubt that it is a natural phenomenon, but there is more going on then sleep paralysis, the creatures and other events are always present in some form. I beleive that this is some kind of electrical disturbance in the brain, of which the sleep paralysis is one symptum.
Really, you are just dreaming. Bad dreams, but dreams none the less. Sometimes sleep paralysis can be a prodromal sign of an under lying seizure disorder, but not necessarily. Talk to a doctor about you symptoms. Most are quite familiar with this. If not, ask the doc for a referal to a sleep disorder clinic.
ominojacu
Feb 5 2006, 08:58 AM
QUOTE(Rykster @ Feb 5 2006, 03:39 AM) [snapback]1049206[/snapback]
Really, you are just dreaming. Bad dreams, but dreams none the less. Sometimes sleep paralysis can be a prodromal sign of an under lying seizure disorder, but not necessarily. Talk to a doctor about you symptoms. Most are quite familiar with this. If not, ask the doc for a referal to a sleep disorder clinic.
Kind of odd for the dreams to involve the same characters every time. I believe that reason is because the of the parts of the brain that are invovled in this phenomenon are always the same and its probable that it can happen naturally as is the probable in my case ore the result of a localized EMF disturbance as could be the case when multiple people claim to have shared an event.
Rykster
Feb 5 2006, 09:01 AM
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Kind of odd for the dreams to involve the same characters every time.
But kind of odd is much more likely than anything else to be just that. Kind of odd...
ominojacu
Feb 5 2006, 10:00 AM
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But kind of odd is much more likely than anything else to be just that. Kind of odd...
A electrical disturbance in the brain that effects certain parts creating duplicate experences in multiple people is the most probable explination for alien abduction experiences. Having experienced it myself I can tell you that is what is going on. It's very likelly that his can be reproduced in a labatory setting if someone were to investigate it further.
Rykster
Feb 5 2006, 10:04 AM
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A electrical disturbance in the brain that effects certain parts
And what do you think seizure/prodromal seizure activity is...?
ominojacu
Feb 5 2006, 10:07 AM
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A electrical disturbance in the brain that effects certain parts creating duplicate experences in multiple people is the most probable explination for alien abduction experiences. Having experienced it myself I can tell you that is what is going on. It's very likelly that his can be reproduced in a labatory setting if someone were to investigate it further.
Hypnosis, may very well cause the disturbance to take place, people under going regression therapy are probably relating there current experience rather then a repressed memory. This is why they can pass lie dector test etc. because they aren't lieing, they did in fact have similar dreams.Ima guessing that parts of the brain are overstimulated and the resulting fantasy creatures are human charactures that lack the detail that other parts of the brain that were not stimulated would have filled in. This explains how people with no contact with each can seem to be describing the same thing.
ominojacu
Feb 5 2006, 10:11 AM
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And what do you think seizure/prodromal seizure activity is...?

seizure/prodromal seizure activity, do people diagnosised with this share the same features of my dreams or just the sleep paraliysis part?
Rykster
Feb 5 2006, 10:51 AM
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seizure/prodromal seizure activity, do people diagnosised with this share the same features of my dreams or just the sleep paraliysis part?
Beyond my knowledge. I would talk to the professionals. Like a sleep disorder clinic. It would be helpful to see an EEG done while this occurs...
Astronema
Feb 8 2006, 01:02 AM
Dreams are Dreams
Nobody knows what they are and mean...
Immortal Norway
Feb 8 2006, 12:36 PM
Ominojacu, you writes that it was the first time you felt pain in a dream. Well infact it`s a scientific fact that it`s impossible to feel pain (ore feeling anything else) in dream
So eighter this was a real happening ore then you just remember wrong (which is realy normal)
Cinders
Feb 8 2006, 02:44 PM
ominojacu,
Have you tried to draw these creatures that you have seen? Or can you find others on the internet or in books that have pictures or drawings of the same that you have seen?
I've had some very frightening nightmares - they are rare. But they are never repeated (with the same scenes or subjects) but they stand out in my memory and I remember them for many years.
I agree with Rykster.. you should look into this with a doctor. Also bring along the pictures of what you've been seeing to help better explain etc.
PrincessPadme
Feb 9 2006, 06:08 AM
I was asleep one time and I thought I was awake and I could not move and I heard loud, but very slow footsteps coming up the stairs it sounded like. The footsteps sounded closer and closer and I felt something try to pull me in the other direction. I of course thought that it was some kind of a haunting experience, but later I learned of limbo, or sleep paralysis. So that would be the only logical reason for this, I was asleep but not fully awake?? I still think it was a little weird...