Hello Everyone,

I am new to the Forum and looking for answers. I had an experience recently where a spirit entered through my abdomen with great energy. I felt the power and popping tingly sensation in my abdomen...like soda pop. Then this being had sexual intercourse with me and it was the greatest ever...I was wide awake. It has happened two other times. Anyone else have these experiences? I would love to discuss it with someone.

Cate

dunno what to say... Donald Tyson wrote a decent book on the subject called Sexual Alchemy (for people who believe that stuff). I thought the idea was interesting when I was younger, then I was introduced to science & became a skeptic.

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No, but I think I wanna!

Never heard anything quite like that before. Were you awake or asleep when it started? Did you see anyone at all?

I was awake when it started. I just had my eyes closed. I know because I snapped to attention when I felt it and thought that it felt so good I didn't bother to jump out of bed and stop it. I knew it was some kind of spirit being and decided not to open my eyes and just stay there and enjoy it. This was on Dec. 28th. Not something you soon forget. I have had to lesser events and all three times whatever it is remains invisible. Which is okay with me.

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There are so many Q's that I wanna ask but I am just not gonna do it!
Do you get a sense of gender? Or is it androgenus?

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Ok...big bad mod rule #1 - If you want to keep this thread open, because as it stands it's already borderline, keep the explicit content off this thread and off the forum. It will not be tolerated and any offenders will get a warning.

Not so big, but equally important mod rule #2- Don't needlessly quote everybody above you. It is highly annoying. Just state who you are addressing.

thank you for your cooperation

Hi, Cate,

Astral sex is completely legitimate. It can happen with spirits who have no connection to bodies, or with out of body travelers. If it was a pleasurable, semi-consensual experience, I'm glad to hear that. Not every sexual encounter in the spiritual realm is a positive one. Some constitute rape, but that's all a matter of perspective in spirituality. Was it possible that your awakened state was in fact sleep paralysis? You are awake/conscious in that state, just not in terms of the body.

One piece of advice I would offer is to not give too much weight to these encounters, and enjoy them for what they're worth. Not caring to see the spirit, as you stated, is a good mindset. The experiences are for your benefit as a means toward self discovery. Don't concern yourself with the motives of the spirit, and don't allow the pleasure to become a substitute for intimacy with living humans. A woman at my old office was allowing a spirit with sexual intentions to stand in the way of her more conventional relationships, and I felt really bad for her. I can't comment on your situation, and I only speak from previous experience.

I don't expect people to believe what I'm about to say until they've experienced it for themselves, but in the early morning of May 29, 2002, I had a bi-location experience. Trust me, I'll never forget that date.

A woman and I met in a dream state, and discussed taking partial, temporary control of each other's bodies. We agreed to the plan, and opened up every part of ourselves, emotionally, in order to achieve trust. The path from the dream state to her body was of will, neither flight nor anything methodical.

One of my friends from out of state spoke of exchanging the cords that connect us to our bodies, but I don't remember anything to that effect. She spent an entire summer as a man, and met with his spirit on a nightly basis to stay current on the affairs of her own life. We discussed her memories for several months, and my skepticism dissolved, especially after accomplishing the feat on my own.

The bi-location was approximately 5 minutes in length. No graphic detail, because that's not the point of this story, but I'll say that she explored my body as I did hers. It wasn't selfish gratification either because each of us provided the other with a memory of discovering sexuality for the first time... a second time. Not only that, I was able to see my own body during the time I was inhabiting hers. No wonder so many women are repulsed by that behavior. LOL!

Why does everyone automatically presume that when anything slightly strange takes place it is to do with ghosts? Could it be that actually you were in a dream state instead. Or maybe thats too much of a logical explanation...

1. Im afraid to comment because of the topics nature and the info I need to ask (Meaning Im not very subtle)

2. I agree with you Lottie

3. Nice Sig Lottie (Lol)

Wow Cate that really really strange. I have never heard of this before. Were the other times exactly the same? How old is your house? Maybe you should check out your house and how old it is. It sounds almost like this "Ghost" was a sex offender before the person died or something.

Lottie,

You have much to learn in the area of dreams, sleep paralysis, and the out of body phenomena. Explore this site further and you may begin to understand that I, along with many others, have approached these situations with a scientific eye. I'm a skeptic to this day, but I don't leap into a pit of denial when miraculous truths slap me in the face.

Corroboration made possible my transcendence from agnosticism to theism. I don't know the nature of God, but I had enough of the supernatural proven that an intelligent Creator could not be disputed.

The trouble with so many skeptics is that they read one recent post among hundreds and jump to hasty conclusions with little or no investigation.

FrankBlunt, It's not that we don't read all the posts, we just post what we feel is the most logical decision.


I agree with Lottie...I doubt it's a ghost, probably just a dream.

Have heard of Succubi and incubus attacks, but those are associated with malovent spirits or demons. So far it doesn't seem as if it's attempting to harm you if indeed it is a ghost.

I would suggest that perhaps getting a routine checkup with your doctor, to see if you have anything going on physiologically that might cause these sensations. This would help rule out any possible medical reasons why you might be experiencing this.

Not trying to frighten you in anyway but I have a healthy dose of skepticism in me when it comes to many things paranormal. I try to rule out all possible scientific reasons why something might happen before I then delve into the supernatural realm.

With all due respect Frank you know nothing about me. To this day I have not witnessed or experienced or read anything that cannot be proven by means be it physiological or psychological or enviromental.
I have been on this site for nearly 3 years now so I am perfectly aware of how these supposed experiences get completely blown out of proportion. Where is good old fashioned reason and logic in all of this?
A post above beiong a prime example... , How uncouth! (No disrespect to Taylor). Come on how far out of reality do we have to go here.

agreeing with lottie, far too many non sceptics, dunno what to think of this thread it seems a bit too.. err blunt in explanation for me e.g. 'this happened, it was a ghost, it was weird, it felt good i was awake'

exactly, it could be a demon...the incubus fits the bill nicely!

THANKYOU. A voice of reason in a sea of fantasy.

Okay, I'm sorry it was too graphic. Then you tell me where I can go to get some help. I thought that place was here. If I can't talk openly, then what is the point. This is not a joke to me.

Hi Cate

I have a theory on this, I have said in previous posts that I do not necesarily believe my theories they are just a collection of my thoughts on a subject. Anyway I think that maybe we are all got a soul mate which we have a connection with, and that ghosts...or wandering spirits are the souls that have left our world too early and are waiting for there soul mate to join them and be reborn. Maybe your soul mate has died, and is trying to contact you...

Anyway if you wanted to talk about this more you could always PM me I'd love to try and help you with this.

Unfortunatly this is a touchy subject for open forums since it has the potential for "inappropriate" comments.

Cate,

I wouldn't give the warning a second thought. Censorship and sexual repression are two things very wrong with this world. Censorship, ironically, is the empowerment of that which is meant to be shunned. Censored speech is the verbal equivalent of a martyr. Ergo, censorship does not accomplish the intended goal.

I find it doubly amusing that the French discuss sex as openly as Americans discuss economics. And they're generally much happier. I'm a conservative capitalist, but money is to earn, save, and spend: end of story.

If the webmasters are concerned about the children visiting this site being corrupted by that which is a natural part of human life, then society has a lot of growing up to do. The Church and its benefactors have drilled it into people's heads for centuries that sex is shameful, embarrassing, and worthy of guilt. That philosophy is meaningless, but I do not wish it censored.

Sex is how we propogate and derive immense pleasure so, I say, let's talk about it. Men are being needlessly circumsized, even non-Christians, often for social, secular-based conformity, because authors who warped scripture to their satisfaction felt guilty about the intensity of orgasm and equated it to demonic possession. "Oh no, it feels too good! It must be evil. Off with their heads!" Rubbish.

If children under the age of 18 are visiting this site without parental consent, and objecting parents are not monitoring internet use, that's their fault. It behooves the webmasters to create an 'adults only' section so these vital social concerns can be appropriately addressed.

Frank, I beleive you may have some growing up to do. You see when people join this forum ,they agree to consent to the forum rules. They are put in place by the person who a)pays for this site and B ) does all the work to maintain it.

If he wishes you to act a certain way, and you agree to as ALL our posters do when they sign up, then you must do this or you will face the consequences.

This is a family orientated site, and is aimed as such. Do not dismiss our warnings as we do so for a reason.

As for Cate, I myself cannot really think of where you can go, but I would heed the warning of the moderation team in making sure whatever you discuss is not too graphic, as all that will end in is the thread being deleted.

Subby.

Come on give the girl a break, if this is true she's been through quite a weird experience you think she was gonna be thinking twice about upsetting a few people? No she wanted to know what was happening to her.

Ah, yes. Once again we see the triumphant return of skeptic ramblings that are not the slightest bit conducive to scientific exploration, much less conversation.

If you've made up your minds and are not seeking answers, nor willing to ask open-ended questions, why are you here? Is the profession of closed-mindedness productive on any level? I've written a play to illustrate the lack of productiveness.

Skeptic #1: Nonsense
Skeptic #2: I agree, #1. Nonsense.
Skeptic #3: Me, too. Woo hoo! We're still closed-minded. Should we investigate?
Skeptic #1: Nah, it's more fun to feel righteous and afraid of the unkonwn than to try understanding it.
Skeptic #2: I agree, #1. Righteousness is good.
Skeptic #3: Me, too. Woo hoo!

Many people coming to this site are genuinely seeking answers. I've spoken with several of them who were afraid to speak due to the bashing they knew they'd receive. I can take any amount of heat you throw at me, and should my outlandish stories inspire others with more believable tales to come forward, that's a very good thing.

With all due respect Frank, please take a closer look at the forum rules which you agreed to when you clicked accept to join Unexplained Mysteries

particularly


Should you wish to join an adults only discussion group you are more than free to do so.

Also, for future reference you might want to have a look at rule 15

Frank... how can you claim its something else until you dismiss possibilities?

Wheter you are skeptic or not, to truly find knowledge you need to dismiss the learned before advancing to a new finding... I cant see a problem with that.....

It would be like : The door is open, because of a ghost... rather then knowing that the cat has opened it.... Life unfortunately is based on the fact logical things generally happen, thats why they are logical. Until you dismiss such things, how can you claim to have anything otherwise?


And when you say people are afraid, I would think that those who have questions about things they do not understand would want a range of possibilities and to decide for themselves, rather then go through life believing something that is in fact not what they believed in the first place.

Subby,

I appreciate where you're coming from, but I found nothing inappropriate when I re-read Cate's posts. Do I need to grow up? Many may think so, and they're entitled to that opinion. However, we do not learn very much in this world by taking everything so seriously. Ask Rosemary Campbell, a site member of whom I'm sure you are aware. Hugging that inner child daily keeps us alive and happy.



It was more my intent to assure Cate that she could be helped here, and not so much my goal to dismiss the site rules. Sexuality plays a large part in spirituality, and it needs a stadium for discussion.

Cate is quite welcome to post, and I hope she is helped through her issue, but she like anyone must obey the rules set. If she doesnt, she will find all that will happen is that her chance for help in this thread is gone.

Now if she wants to discuss it in more detail, and in a more adult setting perhaps this site is not the correct one for that sort of thing.

Subby,

If you find it important enough to study, please feel free to browse the following threads. I've provided more than enough foundation to open minds in these discussions. As far as proving anything is concerned, and the pride it manifests, that's not my purpose. That's at the heart of why Rosemary is in such deep suffering.

The Things We Can Learn In One Day
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...showtopic=57833

An Odd Question
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...showtopic=57882

Animals and the Supernatural
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...showtopic=57632

Filming a Documentary
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...showtopic=57888

Ghost and Puberty
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...showtopic=58006

Extra Time
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...showtopic=58107

Possession vs Mental Illness
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...showtopic=57343

Spirit Possessions
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...showtopic=52037

I tend to expect this is a form of hysterical or psychosomatic experience, or indeed, simple misidentified hypnagogic ... erm... personal ... activity... if things WERE spirits just because we "felt" they were, everything would be spirits.


It is unfortunate that this type of experience cannot be discussed as openly as the other "paranormal" experiences, due to the mature nature, as I'm sure there are people that need advice and information on this at least as much, if not more, than more "mundane" events - however, the rules are there for a reason - the world isn't perfect and if that is how the site's owner(s) choose to moderate the forum, then that is that - they provide a resource up to a certain point, after which they do not feel obliged to extend their approval - as is their right.

Rosemary is suffering because she has a mental condition that needs to be treated, and that does NOT include her family letting her post on forums to further exacerbate the situation, with well-intentioned but misguided posters encouraging her psychotic fantasy scenario.

I... don't think that actually answered my question. My question asks how can you claim it is something different, until you cross off the possibilities.

As for the other threads, Im sure i've been through many threads in my time here, and understand about opening ones mind. However I find it works both ways, we as a whole do not completely understand the human brain. In fact we know very little about it, so how can we dismiss so many options where our brain could be the main cause, when we don't really know much about it. The reverse could be said for ghosts and such, with the same reasoning (we dont know much about it).

A skeptical point of view is not "it is impossible we will knock you down and make you burn for posting rubbish"... a skeptical point of view is "Please show me how this is not a normal occurence, or that is was definately caused by something unnatural.. or non-normal" i don't see a problem with that stand point, as if someone can't prove that something is not a natural occurance, or caused naturally, then the chances are that it was one.

It is good to open the mind, but opening the mind does mean thinking through ALL possiblities, which does in fact go both ways...

Anyhow, enough about this, this needs to stay on topic....

Daughter of the Nine Moons,

I respect you as well, and please excuse my harsh words. When I see someone reaching out for help or answers being silenced, my personal belief in pure democracy overrides my adherence to forum rules and such. That doesn't make it right, but, on the same token, it's time for me to move on. Besides, I've now reached the peak in the stories I had to share. You're welcome to revoke or deactivate my account access.


Regards,
Brian

Okay everyone...I really appreciate all that have come to my defense. Subby, after doing some reading and thinking and learning how all of this works, I am all too happy to comply. Alot of kind people have emailed me personally and I think it can all be worked out just fine privately. I did not think about the fact that kids could be on this site. And so you're right. Again, I wish to thank everyone that came to my defense in this matter.

wow,i have never heard of a ghost haveing intercourse with someone before,its interesting though

Well I hope you eventually get the answers you are looking for. Just be carefull you are not led into some strange BS story because someone online said it was so.

You have hit the nail right on the head.

Much of the Spirit contact like this is from a Spirit we know who has died and may still be hanging around.

They still have all their old sexual desires and a need to keep on contact with someone on Earth and sometimes its hard to get rid of them.

There is another reason this might be happening and I know this better than anyone else because its happened to me.

Another Writer wrote into her books about Walk-In Spirits and in her book she tells how enlightened Spirits come back to earth and talk or coerherse Spirits to leave the Earth Body and give it to them.

In the Book 'Strangers Among Us' authored and published by Spiritual Writer Ruth Montgomery these are the things she and her Guides Write.

Allegedly in the book God puts more deserving Spirits back into a Human Body and takes the Spirit of a Sinner Higher into the Spirit World so they can repent their Sins and a more deserving Spirit can walk the Earth in that Body.

Now I can not prove or disprove that this is true but I know that book has caused me a lot of trouble because it caused three of my Relatives and a Man I knew who died in l985 to come here and hassle me for 20 years and so far I have found no way to remove them from my body.

I think those who are talking about how great it is to have sex with a Spirit might think about this because that Spirit may have read that book and be looking for a body to take over and the sexual cavity is one of the ways they get into the female body and I will assume this is one of the reasons that most Possessions are reported to happen with females.

On occassion a Spirit does take over a Male's body and I will assume they go into the alternate body opening since the man doesn't have a vaginal opening.

This may not be a pleasant subject to write into but I can assure you you do not want to become possessed by a Spirit who by the way can crawl into a body whether you invite them or not if they know someone like me and want to be mean to them and have them try frantically to find an Exorcist which has been impossible for me.

Would imagine that it would be very unpleasant if you couldn't get an unwanted entity out of you, regardless of it's intent.

Yes many people are coming here to seek answers and what you seem to be doing is giving them a one sided, sales pitch on something that is pure conjecture. Talk about fuelling the fire... Many if not all of strange occurences can be narrowed down to a purely logical explanation. Maybe you need to redefine your scientific exploration because since time has begun there is absoloutely no solid evidence to believe that any of this is a reality.

Ok that would be depressing

(Yes I am the same person, I thought my name was kinda dull on the old one)

Your right there maybe 100% logical explanation, but what do you call 100% logical explanation? Something you read in a book or a scientist said on a television? The reason I joined this forum is the express my feeling of that there are some things Science cannot proove or see...we do not get answers half the time, because we don't even know the question. I am not saying that she had a encounter with a spirit, I was just putting my 'theory' not technically what I believe. Yes I was thinking it could be natural I mean we'd be as bad as the Scientists if we blamed everything on paranormal...anyway sorry for sounding hostile it isn't meant to be hostile I'm just you know speaking

Welcome back SolidSnake

Very well said. I feel that nobody can be a definitive expert on the paranormal; all we can do on these boards is give our opinions and let the person seeking help decide which they think best fits their situation

In all honesty i have never heard such rubbish in all my life.Sounds like a visit to a therapist or psychiatrist would give you more answers.
Quite how you can come to the conclusion you are having sex with a spirit is astounding.

there is no evidence or whatever to say what she experienced was a ghost... it could just be something psychological.... it cant be very convincing to state that u had intercourse with a ghost only because u felt something

I woke up the other morning convinced my husband and I had had intercourse during the night, turned out it was just a very vivid dream

You might want to visit the Web Page:
http://www.Rense.com

It not only has a believers point of view it also deals with Skeptics and many subject matters.
I found it very enlightening and from there I found many other Websites which I believe can prove to the average person there are many who believe they have proven Life beyond Earth.

One thing I found very interesting is they ask the Question did a Psychic solve the Laci Peterson case.

I am not that Psychic but I did learn by visiting that site that that Psychic and I both meditated on the Laci peterson case from the onset and we came up with many of the same conclusions and that Psychic mediated in California and I here in Ohio and we have absolutely no personal connection.
I think anyone interested in Paranormal Research would want to read that and compare it to some of the things I have written not only on this Forum but in the Skeptics Forum under 'A Psychic who talks to the dead' and 'Is there a way to prove God Exists'
Hopefully people don't think I am advertising here because I am not I am only a contributor on these Forums who hope to convince the World that I am telling the truth in my Posts made on the Internet.

Of course we can't actually prove anything but we can tell our Story and hope that others will at least keep an open mind about these things.

I would also like to take this opportunity to invite any Psychics who read this anywhere in the World to participate in an experiment to please Meditate on the Assassination of President John F. Kennedy and ask the Akaskic Records in the Universe to please tell you what was behind it and just see what answers you get and see if it verifies some of the things I have been writing about that Case.
This way we can all compare notes and see what we get and please everyone take this very seriously and write only the absolute truth as you make of it from the Information that you gather as a Psychic Channel.
One of the reasons for this is I would like to have Psychics in other State, Countries and throughout the World to meditate on this and see what we all get and compare notes and I think this is the kind of th ing that can further Paranormal Research.
Don't you think this will be a wonderful way for all of us to delve into the Supernatural and see what we can all do to prove these things?
This way we can all who are interested in these things do our part to prove some of these things to Skeptics everywhere.

Now that I have posted this I think perhaps I should have started a whole new discussion group on this and I would right now do that but I don't know how so perhaps a moderater reading this will split this off into a whole new Discussion and that other Psychics will join me and see what we all come up with in our Psychic Detective work and post it here.

I think the very first post in this thread sums up the answer to your question here.

I've had some VERY vivid dreams. Some of which, so vivid, I was convinced they had actually taken place. Ever have one of those dreams where it just sticks with you for the rest of the day? Something in the late afternoon jars the memory of the dream back into you and you feel like it really happened?

Everyone's heard of "wet dreams" I trust. To me, this just sounds like a very vivid dream in which this individual believed she was awake.

Actually I read up on, sexual experiences with demons,
some are said to enjoy it very much, the demon seduces you,
Then has sexual intercourse with you.
This I found in the encylopedia of witchcraft at my library I was
extremly surprised when I read it, I think they were called incubia...
if anyone knows different correct me.

I think thats a little creepy what happened to you, if at all....

wow. I would love to go on a paranormal hunt to find that out for myself. That's very interesting.

There's two demons ain't there male and female...Incubus...and something else that sounds the same. I wish Cate would come back so she could tell us more about it and if she experienced it again, but she was scared off by them evil skeptics.

You are referring to an Incubus and a Succubus.

Lets remember the forum rules when posting.