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scifikid
I am new to this site, but luckily I found it because I really need someone to talk to about a lot of things. Ok, I am very sensitive about ghosts because I see them and hear them all the time. I know that the ghosts I have met are not malignant, but when I sit down to meditate or when I am in my room alone, I cannot control myself. The ghosts scare me out of my mind, and I have to turn on a light to comfort me. This really interrupts my meditation and sleeping process. Are there any suggestions that anyone could give?
Lonecat
QUOTE(scifikid @ Feb 8 2006, 03:10 AM) [snapback]1052782[/snapback]

I am new to this site, but luckily I found it because I really need someone to talk to about a lot of things. Ok, I am very sensitive about ghosts because I see them and hear them all the time. I know that the ghosts I have met are not malignant, but when I sit down to meditate or when I am in my room alone, I cannot control myself. The ghosts scare me out of my mind, and I have to turn on a light to comfort me. This really interrupts my meditation and sleeping process. Are there any suggestions that anyone could give?



Hello there scifikid. You're lucky to be seeing them all the time. I have seen ghosts proper, so far five or six times in the course of my life, the most recent occasion being back in 2001. I consider myself fortunate to have seen that many but am dying for the next "encounter".
I was really frightened only the first time I saw a ghost, by way of introduction I suppose. Since then my reaction has always been one of wonder and hope for more, so that I can study the phenomenon more closely. The experiences I have had have only increased my curiosity about their nature. As for suggestions to offer, I really have no idea of what to say. All that comes to mind for the moment is : don't be afraid. They can hurt you only in a mental sense, not a physical one. Keep your head and take note of everydetail when these apparitions occur. We need all the evidence we can get. We know they exist, so we need not waste time on discussing whether or not to believe. What we want now is to gather as much information as possible. If you are lucky enough to be a constant observer then you must be in a favoured position. No reason for fear. Try communicating with them in some way and ask them what it is they are after. Good luck and please do write more about your experiences LONECAT
Bebi
That's a tricky one. My initial advice would be to calm down and not let them get to you; but it's easier said than done I know. I've only ever experienced one malignant presence, we sorted that one out by moving house.

What is it that causes the fear? Is it just the general presence or do things actively happen to disturb you? Don't worry at all about sleeping with a light on, it's not shameful at all. I know of quite a few adults who keep a light burning. Of course if the bill-payer is moaning about the electric then it may be a bit difficult, I'd just offer them some money each week for it myself. Have you mentioned your experiences to anyone else in the house? Maybe just ask them if they've noticed anything odd, this would have the added benefit of you being able to get info objectively then without them having had any clues as to the nature of the "oddness" you're asking about. I found out 5 years ago at the age of 25 that my mother is a firm believer in ghosts. I mentioned an occurrance to my aunt and she said talk to your mum, she's seen ghosts. I was gobsmacked as it was never something she'd ever discussed before. Of course, there's always the option of researching your property and seeing if you can find anything out that way, and Lonecat's suggestion of keeping a journal is an excellent one grin2.gif

Hope this helps somewhat. Feel free to PM me if you wish thumbsup.gif
Immortal Norway
Most people walk around theire hole life without seing ghosts at all. So it have to be a reason that you see them all the time. Maybe you have done them oppset, maybe they wanna talk to you about something, but are afraid ore maybe they just like you.

Remember just because they are ghosts that doesn`t mean that theire evil. Ghosts are after all humans (okay dead humans, but still humans) and as all human`s there are evil human`s, but most humans are after all nice.

So take my advice: Next time you see them take a deep breath and ask them why they are following you all the time.
scifikid
Thank you for your support!

Basically I am afraid of them being one with me when I meditate and afraid of something unknown being their in the dark. I have been calmer then before though, that is some progress. I used to run away completely, but now I can handle their presence up to a point.

As for experiences, this will be a very long story...

When I was 4 or so, I slept under the covers because I was afriad of the dark. One night in February, on the year of the leap year, I woke up and found something sitting on me. I could see its shadow through the covers. I waited, stunned, all night for it to go away, but it never did until 7:00 came around, when it dissipated and I felt the wight on me lift. Ok, well my mom is not really a believer, she only believes in it at a funeral of one of her family member when something strange happens. This ghost appears to me ever four years (during leap year). THe second encounter was very strange, but I think I recieved a guardian this time. I woke up staring at a black shadow at the foot of my bed. It had red eyes and the shape of a human, I think. For a few minutes I was paralyzed at its glare, and then out of nowhere something impaled it with a lance or spear, or some kind of weapon. The shadow turned its head to look around and a white ghost appeared. The shadow groaned and disappeared, and the white ghost was left their. From then on, I always felt a presence in my room. I think that that white ghost patrols my room to this very day. As for the next experience with the shadow, it was in a dream this time. I was dreaming when all of a sudden my dream was interrupted and switched off to a picture of my bedroom with the door closed. The door opened and the shadow walked in, with its red eyes shining brightly. I woke myself up (I am very talented at this considering I don't dream, I only have nightmares) and nothing was wrong other than that I felt like I fell out of the sky into my bed. Finally, the most recent time I have seen this shadow was in 2004. My friend was with me this time, and we saw a shadow under a streetlight following us. When we finally turned around to see what it was, he looked at us and then descended into the ground.

That is my leap year ghost, I like to call him, but my encounters are not only with him. Once, at my friend's birthday party, we were about to eat dinner when the living room started going crazy with ghost activity. It happened to be many lost family members of all the people that were invited to the party. The couch cushion deflated, like it was sat on; the rocker rocked; a plant vase moved across the table.

Now I am 15, and my most recent encounter was in Jaunary, the week of Friday the 13th. The wednesday night of this week, I was haunted. Every time I tried to go to sleep, something would shake me or move me, forcing me awake. Also, I heard many voices all night long: loud, and some whispers. I saw people moving about my room, and when I tried to turn my TV on for some light, it stayed on for a while and then flickered many times. My TV has never flickered before, at least that I know of.

Currently, I have been gaining insight and I am becoming more aware with the world; like a psychic development. I think this is why I have seen many ghosts lately. As I am typing it, their is a spirit watching over my shoulder, I know it is there. There is one that follows me around all day long, guiding me through rough times at school. I think that it could be the white spirit that fended off the shadow. I am not sure though. Today I am going to try meditating again and see if I can communicate with it.

Ok, I think I caught all my experiences, other than small encounters at my friends' houses.
Forsaken
If I am not intruding, why do you meditate?
In any case the 'ghosts' might not be after u at all, they me just be passing by, or there is the possibility of their being a hellgate in ur house grin2.gif
Immortal Norway
Wow, you have seen ghosts more times then i have seen aliens (and belive me thats not a small amount). Also good luck whith finding the answear! thumbsup.gif
scifikid
Well, to see what the ghosts want, I'm going to find that out today (well, try to find out). happy.gif

Oh about the journal Lonecat, I think I will start a blog here and update it every time I encounter a ghost (which will probably be about every night).

*EDIT* OH! I remember something about my area. The area in which my house is located is said to be in a spirit vortex. They say our houses were built over Native American burial grounds. My friends mom is the one that told me this, and she is the only adult I know that believes in ghosts like I do.
Immortal Norway
Cool!
Bebi
I had my first ever experience aged 4-5 too. I remember a shadow sitting on my mum's sideboard. Of course because I'd nothing else to base this on (I'd not heard of ghosts at that age) I told mum Jesus had come to visit us happy.gif I wasn't really scared, just miffed that no-one believed me.

From your descriptions I'd say that none of the ghosts around you wish you harm. I'm unsure of the "leap year ghost", that seems quite strange, but it doesn't seem overly hostile. If it had wanted to reach you under the covers it would have. I agree that one of the spirits (or maybe more than one) is your guardian.

Don't ever feel silly speaking out loud to them either. You don't have to speak too loudly, just a low murmur would be enough if you don't feel competent at conversing telepathically. Myself and my husband often speak out loud to a spirit that visits us, for example the tv will go on and off and we say "James stop it we're watching that" and it's fine... tongue.gif James died when I was 16; he was my first boyfriend, and has been visiting on average about twice a year for a few weeks for the last 13 years. The freakiest thing he's ever done is to light a cigarette in a packet (I was alone in the house). My husband has had many conversations with him and has relayed information to me that I know can only have come from James.

Try local libraries for information, maybe even a local university has a history department that could help. Also your local council records could be useful. I'd certainly try to find more information on the burials you were told about; it sounds fascinating. Google your hometown name with the words "burials, history" that kind of thing and see what comes up.
analog_warrior
Tell him to go away. It's your house with your rules.
scifikid
Oh, that's the thing though. I really don't want them to go away. They don't feel intruding or anything, its just that their presence is a new, frightening feeling for me. Maybe I will just eventually get over it, but if anyone has any other suggestions, feel free to PM me or post it here! original.gif
Bebi
I'm sure that with that attitude and time your fear will reduce to manageable levels, if not disappear yes.gif be patient.
Claudoca
Well, hereīs my advice.

You obviously have what some people call mediunity, which is the ability to see, hear, feel or receive spirits. People have different kinds, and predicting the future, healing with your hands, etc are some of them.

I suggest you read about religions that explain about the spirit world and work on your mediunity from there, after, of course, a lot of research. Read about Allan Kardek, if you must, but donīt be so scared.

I personally believe there are many kinds of spirits. People who died and are lost or donīt accept they died, people who were disturbed or violent in life and mean to influence weak people who are alive to act the same way, spirits who only want attention, and spirits that mean to help. Whatever the case, you should start to study and find out why you have this ability and how to deal with it, because trust me, you canīt make it go away.

I donīt mean to discuss my religion or personnal beliefs now, but maybe this will help: my grandmother and her ancestors had a lot of spiritual sensitivity. They were confused, through generations about how to deal with them. Some became strictly Catholic and prayed for it to go way, others developed it. When I was sixteen I realized I had some of it as well, feeling spirits around me, knowing things that would happen, etc. At first I was terrified, but after 11 years of studying ancient religions and reading on Spiritism, I made peace with these (very) common gifts and now I can easily understand when thereīs a spirit close to me, if it means harm or not. When I wake up scared for no reason in the middle of the night, I pray in my own way, according to my religion, and they leave me alone.

So this is my advice: study and find your own spirituality. It will give you strength and better understanding of something thatīs been with the human race always.

wish u the best.
Bebi
My personal belief is that spirits are always around us, all the time. Those of us who have experiences are somehow managing to bridge the gap between the two separate "realities" (for want of a better word). I'm not 100% taken with the theory that ghosts/spirits are simply people who passed over with unfinished business; I don't think it's as cut and dried as that. I see it as having unfinished business may give spirits greater energy to "appear". For example, if someone was murdered (the most common "unfinished business" scenario) the emotions connected with this event will obviously be greater than someone who has passed away peacefully at the end of a happy life. This doesn't mean that a spirit in the latter scenario cannot approach the living, it just depends on how badly they want contact in my view.

Sorry if I rambled blush.gif
Claudoca
I also donīt belive itīs as simple as that, but I do believe that "unfinished business" is a part of it. And that some people still have work to do and others not.

Studying African religions I discovered they believe there are kinds of "entities" with speciffic traits and missions. Some are ghosts of children, the Eres. Others are Native ghosts Caboclos, others are old african spirits Preto Velhos. Just trying to add some culture to the topic and if anyoneīs interested, I can explain better.

Bebi
Claudoca, have you been to the Spirituality section of the forum yet? There are a few posts in the Beliefs subsection that deal with alternative religions (I use alternative only to mean those other than the common ones) If you wanted to add some info in that section then I'd certainly be interested in reading it thumbsup.gif

Edit: here's one thread I found quickly to start you off http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...opic=58587&st=0

And welcome to UM, I feel you'll be a respected member before you hit double figures if all your posts show the same level of intelligence and understanding as the first three I've read.

I'll let the rest of you get back on topic now cool.gif
Claudoca
Thanks Bebi, and no, I havenīt had time to search the site yet, but I will in time (if my one year old son allows me time, hopefully).

thumbsup.gif
scifikid
I'm back again after a somewhat peaceful night of sleep; yet I still encountered something. I woke up in the middle of the night and my TV was on. I turned my head to face my wall and something was laying in my bed beside me. It blew a gust of air into my face and it made a really loud whooshing sound. I almost jumped out of bed because it was so unexpected.
Claudoca
Bebi, just one more thing: great to see a Wiccan here.

BB.
Boltwave
QUOTE(scifikid @ Feb 8 2006, 02:10 AM) [snapback]1052782[/snapback]

I am new to this site, but luckily I found it because I really need someone to talk to about a lot of things. Ok, I am very sensitive about ghosts because I see them and hear them all the time. I know that the ghosts I have met are not malignant, but when I sit down to meditate or when I am in my room alone, I cannot control myself. The ghosts scare me out of my mind, and I have to turn on a light to comfort me. This really interrupts my meditation and sleeping process. Are there any suggestions that anyone could give?


I do, and the only types of spirits that possess people are demons, luckily I can give you some suggestions from my reading.

Demons cause all types of problems, I won't get deep into that, but I will say that they can cause insomnia and many of the problems you've described, it is important you recite to yourself, consult others in the local area, preferrably a psychiatrist, and then a priest, if the priest doubts your assessment, then go look up an exorcist.

This is a prayer in Latin, which I will recite to you:

'Ecce, carcem, domini!'
scifikid
I haven't been possessed, but I have always had the feeling that latin would be helpful. However, I don't know if these spirits are demons. If they are, then I don't know what to think...
Markissluv
The shadow spirit you are seeing is a demonic spirit, the white one is your guardian angel who is protecting you. However you seem to be inviting these spirits into your life. I'm not sure if you are entertained by fear, but you should look into ending it by not meditating and trying to contact these spirits. The situation where one of the demons was slain right in front of you should be evidence enough of what your actually dealing with. My advice to you would be to meditate on God and ask the Lord to protect you from these spirits who might actually be able to do harm to you if you willfully continue to contact them.
Hope this helps...
-Mark
scifikid
I am not trying to contact the shadow that I have seen every four years, but the human spirits I encounter now. I meditate so I can be one with the space around me, but with so many interruptions (physically and ghostly tongue.gif ) I hardly have a chance to.

And for fear, I am definitely not entertained by fear. That is the reason I started this thread, to gain some insight to help me overcome the fear.
Rosemary Campbell
QUOTE(scifikid @ Feb 8 2006, 03:10 AM) [snapback]1052782[/snapback]

I am new to this site, but luckily I found it because I really need someone to talk to about a lot of things. Ok, I am very sensitive about ghosts because I see them and hear them all the time. I know that the ghosts I have met are not malignant, but when I sit down to meditate or when I am in my room alone, I cannot control myself. The ghosts scare me out of my mind, and I have to turn on a light to comfort me. This really interrupts my meditation and sleeping process. Are there any suggestions that anyone could give?


If you are meditating to develop your Psychic Abilities you should expect to have Spirit Guides appear to communicate with you and if you are afraid of Ghosts then you should not be trying to be a Psychic and of course the choice is yours.

You have to learn to listen to the Spirits and see who they are and do they want to channel good things through you or are they mean Spirits who want to control you for bad things?

Once you determine this from what they say and do you will know how you want to respond to them.

Quite often peoples relatives will appear to them just to say hello and sometimes they want you to pass on messages to others.

If you have a Spiritualist church near you you might want to attend a few sessions and let Mediums give you lessons along these lines and they no doubt will pass information to you from people you know in the Spirit World and may even identify some of your Angel Guides who want to work through you in a good way.

Boltwave
QUOTE(Rosemary Campbell @ Feb 11 2006, 10:04 AM) [snapback]1057745[/snapback]

If you are meditating to develop your Psychic Abilities you should expect to have Spirit Guides appear to communicate with you and if you are afraid of Ghosts then you should not be trying to be a Psychic and of course the choice is yours.

You have to learn to listen to the Spirits and see who they are and do they want to channel good things through you or are they mean Spirits who want to control you for bad things?

Once you determine this from what they say and do you will know how you want to respond to them.

Quite often peoples relatives will appear to them just to say hello and sometimes they want you to pass on messages to others.

If you have a Spiritualist church near you you might want to attend a few sessions and let Mediums give you lessons along these lines and they no doubt will pass information to you from people you know in the Spirit World and may even identify some of your Angel Guides who want to work through you in a good way.


Rosemary, whether your good intentions are involved or not, you have to realize that spiritual churches and "mediums" are that of the demonic occult, regardless of your own personal opinion, and this is why:

Often warlocks, witch doctors, mediums, etc. categorize two things: white and black magic, well, the experienced can tell you there is no such thing, as "black" and "white" magic, there is only magic.

Often sorcerers, and yes even psychics are tricked into thinking they are doing God's work, when really they are a part of Satan's game, his power within, they may decorate their rooms and houses with crucifixes, pictures of the virgin Mary, etc. however, regardless of what it may represent, it is still a strong part in the spiritual evil that takes place today.

Often people think they cna be relieved if they see someone who is in fact a spiritual advisor such as a psychic, but unless you have realized this by now, psychics are not people dressed in strange robes, reading off tarot cards, and throwing herbal spices around in the air, they are people who have the images come to them, they don't exploit themselves as a "psychic" and they certaintly don't use it in any other means, including meditation, which brings my next point.

You should never meditate and try to communicate with spirits, that is foolish, whether people here are blinded by what they have been told they do not realize the powerful setbacks of what they have just done, you cannot communicate with angelic spirits through meditation, no, meditation is not a form of astral, that too is also dangerous, you are communicating with the devil or you are extremely deluted by what you have been told and you don't realize what you are doing, it's no wonder you have been taken over by these entities, they have great reason to be inside you, because you do not realize what you are doing, you cannot see the lies in this little board game, you have to resist this and give up the spiritual meditation (oops, I mean "contacting spirits through meditation" rolleyes.gif )

I advise all of you, stay away from contacting spirits, it's none of our buisness and no dead relatives have nothing to do with anything, they are past now, they do not belong in our conversation let them go on with their fate, it's not your descision whether or not you choose to converse with them, they are dead, let them go now, it's none of your buisness.
newbloodmoon
If a person does decide to communicate with spirits, beware that you could get something either good or bad. Spirits can lie as well as be extremely helpfull and truthfull. I think most psychics/mediums are sharlitans looking for a buck but not all.

So I guess it's alot like shopping when it comes to spirits and this statement applies equally. "Buyer Beware!"
Bella-Angelique
Meditation is self hypnosis.
If you are having problems with the form you are using, I suggest you speed some time studying self hypnosis to get more control. Anyone in a state of hypnosis is susceptible to suggest and seeing things that are not really there, even from your own subconscious. Anything you see while in a hynotic/meditative trance should be taken with a grain of salt.

You could start with this or another site on self hypnosis techiques

Hypnosis/Meditation/Trance
Ghost_Seer
QUOTE(scifikid @ Feb 7 2006, 09:10 PM) [snapback]1052782[/snapback]

I am new to this site, but luckily I found it because I really need someone to talk to about a lot of things. Ok, I am very sensitive about ghosts because I see them and hear them all the time. I know that the ghosts I have met are not malignant, but when I sit down to meditate or when I am in my room alone, I cannot control myself. The ghosts scare me out of my mind, and I have to turn on a light to comfort me. This really interrupts my meditation and sleeping process. Are there any suggestions that anyone could give?



You may want to try this form of spiritual protection. It will help you feel more centered and grounded. It is a way of setting spiritual boundaries with spirits. You have a right not to be bothered by people regardless if they are in physical form or not. Good Luck .
hypoxic
LOL, ghost seer beat me to it. I too have since about your age scifikid had many entities around me. Some good some bad. The most important thing that you can do is make sure that you are well protected anytime that you meditate and the white light is also what I use.

There are many books available that you can find to research just such things. Most meditation as self hypnosis contain at least one section on protection.
Rosemary Campbell
QUOTE(Boltwave @ Feb 11 2006, 05:17 PM) [snapback]1057920[/snapback]

Rosemary, whether your good intentions are involved or not, you have to realize that spiritual churches and "mediums" are that of the demonic occult, regardless of your own personal opinion, and this is why:

Often warlocks, witch doctors, mediums, etc. categorize two things: white and black magic, well, the experienced can tell you there is no such thing, as "black" and "white" magic, there is only magic.

Often sorcerers, and yes even psychics are tricked into thinking they are doing God's work, when really they are a part of Satan's game, his power within, they may decorate their rooms and houses with crucifixes, pictures of the virgin Mary, etc. however, regardless of what it may represent, it is still a strong part in the spiritual evil that takes place today.

Often people think they cna be relieved if they see someone who is in fact a spiritual advisor such as a psychic, but unless you have realized this by now, psychics are not people dressed in strange robes, reading off tarot cards, and throwing herbal spices around in the air, they are people who have the images come to them, they don't exploit themselves as a "psychic" and they certaintly don't use it in any other means, including meditation, which brings my next point.

You should never meditate and try to communicate with spirits, that is foolish, whether people here are blinded by what they have been told they do not realize the powerful setbacks of what they have just done, you cannot communicate with angelic spirits through meditation, no, meditation is not a form of astral, that too is also dangerous, you are communicating with the devil or you are extremely deluted by what you have been told and you don't realize what you are doing, it's no wonder you have been taken over by these entities, they have great reason to be inside you, because you do not realize what you are doing, you cannot see the lies in this little board game, you have to resist this and give up the spiritual meditation (oops, I mean "contacting spirits through meditation" rolleyes.gif )

I advise all of you, stay away from contacting spirits, it's none of our buisness and no dead relatives have nothing to do with anything, they are past now, they do not belong in our conversation let them go on with their fate, it's not your descision whether or not you choose to converse with them, they are dead, let them go now, it's none of your buisness.


The Spiritual Churches that I attended have a Preacher who preaches the Gospel of God and Jesus.
They sing songs and operate just like any other Church of God.

The only difference that I can see is they believe in Life after Death as Jesus taught us and they communicate with those in the Spirit World.

They give messages from peoples relatives and I have never met a Demon in the Spiritual Church and I believe to say that a Gospel Preaching, Hymnal Singing church is Evil and Demonic is said because you have never visited one or know what you are talking about when it comes to describing a true Spiritual Church.
They do not speak in Tongues or any of those things and they are just like any other church that preaches the Gospel and goodness.
bloodyfish
Believe me, meditating will make it worse. yes.gif
scifikid
Maybe then that that is why I haven't had the chance to meditate: it is a sign...

Maybe my fear of meditating in the presence of ghosts could be a warning or some kind of failsafe? dontgetit.gif

Oh, and one quick question: do spirits have the ability to heal somebody?
Boltwave
QUOTE(Rosemary Campbell @ Feb 12 2006, 09:27 PM) [snapback]1058946[/snapback]

The Spiritual Churches that I attended have a Preacher who preaches the Gospel of God and Jesus.
They sing songs and operate just like any other Church of God.

The only difference that I can see is they believe in Life after Death as Jesus taught us and they communicate with those in the Spirit World.

They give messages from peoples relatives and I have never met a Demon in the Spiritual Church and I believe to say that a Gospel Preaching, Hymnal Singing church is Evil and Demonic is said because you have never visited one or know what you are talking about when it comes to describing a true Spiritual Church.
They do not speak in Tongues or any of those things and they are just like any other church that preaches the Gospel and goodness.



From what you were saying I must have gotten the wrong impression, my mistake.

What is it with this "life after death" stuff? How is this any different from other religious beliefs about te after life? What is it you could possibly prove? You may believe in wandering spirits after death, but that would not make sense for them to take over a human body them still being human, it just doesn't add up.
Rosemary Campbell
QUOTE(Boltwave @ Feb 13 2006, 02:02 AM) [snapback]1059226[/snapback]

From what you were saying I must have gotten the wrong impression, my mistake.

What is it with this "life after death" stuff? How is this any different from other religious beliefs about te after life? What is it you could possibly prove? You may believe in wandering spirits after death, but that would not make sense for them to take over a human body them still being human, it just doesn't add up.

There is no difference.

Now you are getting what I have been trying to say all along.
Jesus preached Everlasting life and that's what I've been saying.
Now you talk about Human Spirits and by that you mean the Spirit of man who lives on in the After Life.

Now the only thing we difference on now is you do not believe that the Spirits of Humans we knew can be spiteful and mean and make my life miserable from the Great Beyond but the fact is they can roam anywhere they choose to and if they are low enough they can enter a Human Body. and when they do this they then become what people call Demons and Evil Spirits.

The problem is most people on Earth don't want to acknowledge that four people I knew when they walked the Earth could have become so mean and spiteful in the Spirit World that they are now referred to as Evil Spirits and I suppose some may call them Demons if they choose to.

Take my word for it this is the truth.

I believe as time goes on and you become more familiar with all aspects of the Spirit World you will begin to see what I am talking about.

I don't want to sound like an expert or a know it all I am just trying to share some of this with others so they will know what I have learned from those I communicate with in the Spirit World.



Boltwave
QUOTE(Rosemary Campbell @ Feb 13 2006, 07:18 PM) [snapback]1060131[/snapback]

There is no difference.

Now you are getting what I have been trying to say all along.
Jesus preached Everlasting life and that's what I've been saying.
Now you talk about Human Spirits and by that you mean the Spirit of man who lives on in the After Life.

Now the only thing we difference on now is you do not believe that the Spirits of Humans we knew can be spiteful and mean and make my life miserable from the Great Beyond but the fact is they can roam anywhere they choose to and if they are low enough they can enter a Human Body. and when they do this they then become what people call Demons and Evil Spirits.

The problem is most people on Earth don't want to acknowledge that four people I knew when they walked the Earth could have become so mean and spiteful in the Spirit World that they are now referred to as Evil Spirits and I suppose some may call them Demons if they choose to.

Take my word for it this is the truth.

I believe as time goes on and you become more familiar with all aspects of the Spirit World you will begin to see what I am talking about.

I don't want to sound like an expert or a know it all I am just trying to share some of this with others so they will know what I have learned from those I communicate with in the Spirit World.



Rosemary, although you are the one experiencing such trauma to say that it is the absolute "truth" can still not be proven until the end of this conclusive story which I think we all hope to get over with very soon.

You have your theories which prove to be very logical, however your statements about your suffering have been heard by all, this isn't to discriminate your hope for a normal life, I'm just saying let's stop the cycle of events and end it with a productive conclusive.

I have nothing more to say on the matter.
Master Sage
Just don't think about it.
scifikid
Like many people know, that's easier said than done. I try to do that, and it has been working for the sounds. I try to psyche myself out that any wierd noise is from my dogs outside, or the neighbors. At least by thinking this I can feel secure in "my own little world." tongue.gif

But when a spirit comes and touches me or breathes in my ear, then its really hard to not think about it. laugh.gif

Lately I have just been feeling the presence of them, and I haven't seen too much. I wonder what is in store for tonight! dontgetit.gif original.gif
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