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stargazer123
I'm only slightly familar with spirit animals or totem animals. I did not really know where to post the following. But I'm hoping to hear someone's point of view on this one.

I recently had an experience where I had a friendship gone wrong. This person began harrassing me endlessly to the point of emotional distress. However this person was also very gifted psychic wise in my perspective. This person had also once told me beforehand that they had a spirit animal that they onced used against another when that person was trying to invade their mind.

So anyway first the nasty emails non-stop and phone calls and suttle threats. My fiancee and I changed the number. Than came what i felt to be psychic attacks. I felt sick to my stomach and such and soon after would recieve a vicious email from that person. it was also happening to another woman as well.

One night i was laying down to go to sleep when I felt like something was violating my my mind. it's really hard to put into words but I'll do the best i can. I close my eyes to see this white mythical animal in full visual attempting to come at me or come into my mind. I immediately identified it as the spirit animal this harrassing person had told me was theirs. I suddenly felt as if my whole being drew up into this tiny area beween my eyes and pushed against it. Than this enormous huge white cat seemed to spring from that spot between my eyes and it sat as if warning the other animal not to come forward. it almost seemed like there was this boundary or unspoken rule of crossing it or something. So anyway the cat leaped forward and literally blew this other animal apart to smithereens and than I felt my being almost drip back into my legs and arms.

I had thought perhaps the logical reason was that I was mentally getting rid of this person's bad energy however after i opened my eyes I was in disbelief of the visual I just had. it was like watching a dream awake with your eyes closed. My daughter came into my room for no reason what so ever and asked if I was okay.So this kind of led me to believe that indeed I was under some sort of Psychic attack by his spirit animal.

Is this possible though? I thought spirit animals were protectors not to be used for trying to harm another, which is exactly what I felt it was trying to do to me. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Triad
First and foremost you should stop considering yourself aligned in any way with this person, do not read the E-mails they send, or place any value upon them as a friend.

Don't consider them an enemy either simply stop assessing emotion to the whole issue.

According to the methodology traveling with spirit animals is different than having a spirit animal travel with you. In the case of the latter the spirit animal no longer resides in its body but now uses the humans form as its own (as a host). In that form it protects the person as if it was protecting its own life and as long as the person is alive it is alive.

The spirit animal is also no longer interconnected to the all through his or her body, but rather is an aspect of the world of men.

So to answer your question yes it is possible within the context of the methodology.


stargazer123 it's not there hostility towards you that is causing the spirit animals to react, it is your anger towards that person removing that anger will cause the spirit animal to cease its efforts against you.


Any thoughts?
stargazer123
QUOTE(Triad @ Feb 10 2006, 07:09 PM) [snapback]1057157[/snapback]

First and foremost you should stop considering yourself aligned in any way with this person, do not read the E-mails they send, or place any value upon them as a friend.

Don't consider them an enemy either simply stop assessing emotion to the whole issue.

According to the methodology traveling with spirit animals is different than having a spirit animal travel with you. In the case of the latter the spirit animal no longer resides in its body but now uses the humans form as its own (as a host). In that form it protects the person as if it was protecting its own life and as long as the person is alive it is alive.

The spirit animal is also no longer interconnected to the all through his or her body, but rather is an aspect of the world of men.

So to answer your question yes it is possible within the context of the methodology.
stargazer123 it's not there hostility towards you that is causing the spirit animals to react, it is your anger towards that person removing that anger will cause the spirit animal to cease its efforts against you.
Any thoughts?


Triad
First thank you your post. I did pass the email to junk mail and I did stop that connection.
I never quite looked at in in respect to my own anger. More so I was very upset which given what i went through I think most people would have been.

However as in regards to my own anger. i never quite thought of it that way only because I felt as though this spirit animal was in my space of mind. If it was my own anger would it not be reversed perhaps? Also because a similar thing had happened to another woman who had dealings with this person and had also experienced similar attacks.

I'm never willing to rule out self or logic especially when it is much harder to view oneself but when i assess the situation on the whole and set my own ego aside I feel that I was protecting myself from another energy that invaded my boundaries with bad intention. More so than anger when i can think back I felt absolute fear of this person.
Triad
The moment you accepted his or her council and observed the paranormal ability the person had, you set into motion in yourself certain archetypes (Jung) or symbols in your own brain which placed this person at a certain level pertaining to respect and authority.

As a result of your problems with this individual certain innate responses have been initiated and as a result your sensations of fear. The truth be known this person is reacting to you in a threatening way and while as you are claiming you are experiencing fear there are of course other potential issues which could turn that fear into anger very easily (in relation to flight, fight and freeze responses to a potential threat to yourself or those you care about).

I have enabled e-mail notification so feel free to respond in this thread in relation to any input.

Any thoughts?





different
Were you resting? This could be like dream walking or something. Why don't you try shielding? Remember the most powerful shield is prayer. No matter who you worship. So was the cat protecting you? That cat may have been your spirit guide. I'm going to start trying dream walking. I'd love to freak out my friends by saying something like " How about that great dream you had last night?". laugh.gif
stargazer123
QUOTE(Triad @ Feb 10 2006, 08:44 PM) [snapback]1057290[/snapback]

The moment you accepted his or her council and observed the paranormal ability the person had, you set into motion in yourself certain archetypes (Jung) or symbols in your own brain which placed this person at a certain level pertaining to respect and authority.

As a result of your problems with this individual certain innate responses have been initiated and as a result your sensations of fear. The truth be known this person is reacting to you in a threatening way and while as you are claiming you are experiencing fear there are of course other potential issues which could turn that fear into anger very easily (in relation to flight, fight and freeze responses to a potential threat to yourself or those you care about).

I have enabled e-mail notification so feel free to respond in this thread in relation to any input.

Any thoughts?


Triad.
I see your point. Perhpas this could be true and I did not percieve myself as being angry. But as we know something can be completely different from the view of the one in the situation and the view of the bystander. Sometimes the bystander sees something the person in that situation might miss.

I'm going to have to think on this one because I think you made some very good points here that I haven't fully considered enough. Hopefully if anything I can have some kind of understanding to prevent something like this in the future whether it was based at me or not.
Triad
Well for now I would recommend working on you investigation into the paranormal on your own. The truth is one way of looking at paths to awareness is that they may in fact be as many paths as there are individuals. Meaning that ultimately in your search to understanding the experience as a whole will become so personal words will not help.

Of course I do also consider that the help of other is important but only from the context of advice. original.gif

Beyond that I think you will find some interesting data at this site.

Any thoughts?

stargazer123
QUOTE(different @ Feb 10 2006, 09:07 PM) [snapback]1057324[/snapback]

Were you resting? This could be like dream walking or something. Why don't you try shielding? Remember the most powerful shield is prayer. No matter who you worship. So was the cat protecting you? That cat may have been your spirit guide. I'm going to start trying dream walking. I'd love to freak out my friends by saying something like " How about that great dream you had last night?". laugh.gif


Hi Different.

I just hit the bed and I know I couldn't have been dreaming because i can never fall asleep with ease....AWWW insomnia blink.gif

I think in my own way i called for help. Afterwards I prayed and wiped my brow... grin2.gif
I agree that prayer is a powerful shield but you know I find sometimes my problem is that i forget to pray!!!!!Yoou'd think I'd start remembering after times like these. w00t.gif

I was knew a lady who claimed she could go into other people's dreams. She never visited me so I don't know. Could you imagine? You just go visit your friend in a dream? grin2.gif
I would show up as a big rooster and crow my head off because all of them never get up on time!
stargazer123
QUOTE(Triad @ Feb 10 2006, 09:46 PM) [snapback]1057358[/snapback]

Well for now I would recommend working on you investigation into the paranormal on your own. The truth is one way of looking at paths to awareness is that they may in fact be as many paths as there are individuals. Meaning that ultimately in your search to understanding the experience as a whole will become so personal words will not help.

Of course I do also consider that the help of other is important but only from the context of advice. original.gif

Beyond that I think you will find some interesting data at this site.

Any thoughts?


Yes, this I will assess and try to have my own understanding....it still amazes me how two people could have similar things and totally different perspectives. In the end i believe we should take what resonates but I agree the help of another sometimes shines a light on soemthing you haven't thought of.

Thanks alot for your responses.... original.gif
newbloodmoon
as silly as this is gonna sound sometimes just saying "Leave me alone" can help. Yet do it with authority and believe that it can't do anything. Sometimes just believing in yourself might help.
Bio-Mage
Yeah blame your weak character on spirit animals....thats gonna help....
Triad
What does weak character have to do with it?? You want to claim the person offering the first post in this thread has a weak character?? Because of what??

As I have said time and time again Biomage and in different ways the world is not as simple as you think, there are matters which go beyond current common human understanding and to be clear this happens to be one of them.

As a Shaman I do have experience with spirit animals and if you will note, in relation to Native American culture (in general) data concerning Spirit Animals is quite extensive.

Based upon his initial response it is very possible that stargazer123 suffered a physical attack/assault which was the result of a spirit animal.

Any thoughts?





Psibear
the spirit animals are meant to protect but if the person sees you as athreat then why couldn't they use their spirit animal to protect them by attacking you? always remember when shielding to have something on the shield or the shield itself moving...energy moves the more something moves the more energy it has well kinda. oh yeah the psychic attacks are very possible. as psychics we arent supposed to use them and u cant really go read a book on it but after you hear about side effects you can fill in the blank spots. i psychically attack ppl in a form of clouding their minds, but thats another story. its a good thing that you broke connection with her b/c that gives her less power over you but she can still attack you so yeah...okay bye!
stargazer123
QUOTE(newbloodmoon @ Feb 13 2006, 11:54 PM) [snapback]1060682[/snapback]

as silly as this is gonna sound sometimes just saying "Leave me alone" can help. Yet do it with authority and believe that it can't do anything. Sometimes just believing in yourself might help.


You're right about that. I've had instances where saying that worked.
stargazer123
QUOTE(Psibear @ Feb 18 2006, 08:00 PM) [snapback]1067772[/snapback]

the spirit animals are meant to protect but if the person sees you as athreat then why couldn't they use their spirit animal to protect them by attacking you? always remember when shielding to have something on the shield or the shield itself moving...energy moves the more something moves the more energy it has well kinda. oh yeah the psychic attacks are very possible. as psychics we arent supposed to use them and u cant really go read a book on it but after you hear about side effects you can fill in the blank spots. i psychically attack ppl in a form of clouding their minds, but thats another story. its a good thing that you broke connection with her b/c that gives her less power over you but she can still attack you so yeah...okay bye!


Thanks for your thoughts. I'm not sure what happened but I've been thinking on it for quite some time and within I feel I was protecting myself.
I found that cutting the tie and forgiving in my own heart a good way to replace that negative energy and the cycle it carried. You'll have to tell me about the mind clouding sometime..... w00t.gif

Thanks again original.gif
stargazer123
QUOTE(Bio-Mage @ Feb 14 2006, 11:24 AM) [snapback]1061123[/snapback]

Yeah blame your weak character on spirit animals....thats gonna help....


I was going to ignore but I felt intrigued to ask...

You really would judge another person's character based on an experience they had that you might not understand?

That makes no logical sense or any other sense for that matter. blink.gif
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