I just have a question for any of you knowledgeable in history... was Hitler fully aware of everything going on at the concentration camps? I read somewhere that he was not, and i would like to know the truth

no problems, asking questions to find the truth is one of the only ways one can truly learn anything. to the best of my knowledge he was aware, however, as you'd said I think I recall documents to the contrary, however some of the experiments were endorsed by him to the best of my knowledge I could be mistaken however.
nice topic, a great chance for discussion

You remember where you read that?

yes , everything i have seen is that he was in know about the torture and experiments . and either ordered or approved them. the thing that gets me is that scientist and the medical establishment during that time was right in bed with ol hitler.

one thing that is not well known is that hitler had about 200,000 german children exterminated to improve the "master race"

the jews were but one group on hitlers list to KO . i think the thing to ask would who "wasn't" on the list--

i think it was on this site actually, on one of the posts

Over a million posts on this site... that really doesn't help me much.

I think Hitler knew about the Jews.

i know i read in a book onetime that he didn't, yet all the other evidence points to him knowing all of it. i believe he knew everything that went on in those camps.

This is what happened according to documents.
In the beginning the Nazis just wanted to exile the jews aka the style of the Middle Ages.
They sent the first ones out on ships to dump them in different nations, but the other nations including the United States would not accept them.
None of their exile plans were working out.

That was when they came up with the idea of extermination and that is why it was called The Final Solution. It was all an agreed upon plan in advance.

To this day if someone says "I think we need the final solution for this problem," it means to give up and completely end it or "kill" it.

Well didnt Hitlers scientists invent the drug Speed by doing experiments on the Jews?? Since Hitler himself used this drug daily, I would suspect he knew where the research came from.

Er, he was the one who passed the "Final Solution". He let Himmler establish the ESG.

They didn't invent it, it's been around for over a 100 years. There are different variations of it and Hitler had daily injections of this. I don't remember him knowing that it was meth specifically. He was taking well over 28 different medications at the time I think.
Anyway I think that Hitler did know about the Jews.

It was Hitlers Final Solution.

~Thanato

hitler knew good and well everything that happened to the jews. he ordered and approved all of it.

If he did, he didnt care . If he didnt, he wouldnt care .

but dont you think he would have been busy with the war? im sure he knew that Jews were being mistreated, but do you think he actually had the time to think of such tortures as injecting blue ink in Jew's eyes to make them blue eyed?

I always believed he did know, hence the obscene levels of records that the nazi's kept, which is how we know most of this stuff went on...specifically, and this may just be an urban legend or misinterpretation, but in my youth i'd heard mention of the eye experiments for the purpose of finding a way for him to undergo them, as he hardly fit the definition of his own ubermench...could be wrong.

yes, it is quite possible though for the surviving Jews to have told exaggerated tales of their times in the concentration camps because they probably werent in a right stage of mind if all this torture did happen to them

I have read the literature of US neo-nazis and I know they wish to cling to the belief that Hitler was a Christian and that the holocaust did not happen or that it was an over blown tale of what really happened. The people who put these beliefs forward were not German, were not part of the Nazis, and often not even adults in the WW2 years.

I know a German civilian from WW2 and I knew a member of the SS that worked at Dachau, that married a US serviceman and became a US citizen. They say the stories were true and that many of the Germans who knew what was happening felt almost as terrified and helpless as the prisoners in the camps.

You might like to read this
Germans adn the Camps

Thanks for clearing that up with me. I have been spreading false information to some people and needed that cleared up.

Hitler most probably did know about the jews since his mother was treated by a jewish doctor she died he blamed the doctor, he slept with a jewish prostitute he got some disease or something from her again led to a hatred of jews.
To say he didn't know about it is too far, since he may not of put through all the commands to kill them but he did start it.

sounds like we've got an old-fashioned case of Holocaust Denial going here

Yes dear Hilter knew about the jew's....Most people have come to think that killed million's of jew's to help in his drive for a pure race....But in truth during ww2 hilter had spent a large amount of money Germany was about bankrupt and he needed fund's to help support his war effor....Hitler main reason for what he did to the jew's was money dear....they had great worth....Look at how much money, gold ,art and other thing's he took ....It was billion's by today rate's...

so did hitler know what was going on..yes he did dear....and he knew that they where the only race of people he could do this too with the german people turning on him....

The Nazi regime started imprisoning and killing homosexuals as early as 1933, this wasn't done to create financial wealth. Also, it's estimated that around 220,000 Romanian gypsies were killed in various work camps throughout Europe during the war years and I don't think anyone can argue that this was done for financial gain. So either your assumption that Hitler persecuted the Jews for financial gain is incorrect or he laid a very contrived smoke screen by imprisoning or killing homosexuals, romanian gypsies, the mentally or physically disabled, soviet prisoners and political opposition in an attempt to create the illusion of a drive for racial purity and used this as cover for the extraction of wealth from European Jews. Does that seem likely to you?

The financial side is quite v ery possible to what finally made him go to the final solution. He did persicute other but thats because they didn't fit into his society of the pure race he didn't want gypsies unpure blood inbreed(supposedly) didn't want homosexuals because of what they do, mentally ill this is because it coasts a lot to care for them and there not a lot of use to what he wanted which brings in the financial side again. Soviets well thats because there enmies and if you don't torture them or make them feel scared it would make you look weak and is what hitler, himmler etc would of believed what they looked like to the enmie.
And snowball think if Hitler was getting rid of the jews because of him not wanting them in his society why not take there wealth at the same time, he didn't plkan to get rid totally for a while till 1941 if i'am correct there which means something triggered quickly because in 1940 they said they had no intention of killing them all, so could it be financial ruin combined with putting huige amounts of money into the war effort and losing going bankrupt losing tons of money etc....thats maybe a reason why he thought of getting rid and taking all of the money as a excuse