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bloodfire777
I was just wondering what the beliefs of the end of times were from a Wiccan religious perspective. Do Wiccans not beleive in an armageddon? If Wiccan members of this site could give me some feedback it would be greatly aprreciated. Thanks for your time.
IronGhost
I am not a Wiccan, but I know many of them, and when I was a newspaper reporter, I did some stories about them. Also, one of my best friends is a Wiccan High Priestess.

I don't think the Wiccans believe in Armaggedon. They may have an end-time concept, but I don't think so. A big part of their beief system is the constant renewal of "all that is." To them "onging Change" is a big thing. They celebrate the changes in seasons, for example, which is highly significant to them.

I think they see time and the world as an endless, eternal flow.

Any true Wiccans out there have a comment? Did I get this right?

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bloodfire777
Thanks for the reply. I considered myself a Wiccan for quite some time and yes they do believe life is basically an eternally flowing circle of life. But I was just wondering if anyone out there had heard of a Wiccan End of times concept, i have looked for a long time on any Wiccans who believe in it with out any success. Thanks again.
Rasani
well this is interesting geek.gif i go to a catholic school and thier concept is really askew , no offense , but i know many cultures have a end of the world out look , and if thios is one thing that doesnt i find that quite........... awesome , i mean why does the world have to end disgust.gif i mean at one point it should , but it doesnt have to innocent.gif this i really quite kewl i have a whole new respect for wiccans tongue.gif
Beckys_Mom
For those that think wiccan is evil and it's all witchcraft spells ect.......you need to read up on what wicca really is.you will find there is a loving spiritual nature to it all....it''s worth reading up on
Byuu94
No.
There are different "Wiccas", so I can't account for them all but generally there is no "end of time". I think the earth will end eventually, but everything continues. There is no total and absolute END.
Bella-Angelique
Norse pantheonic wiccans believe this.

Norse religion believes that the world is not eternal. It was created from the body of the primordial giant Ymir and sits in between extremities of hot and cold. And as the world had a beginning, it will so have an end. The day of the final battle of Ragnarok will come and the forces of good will march out one last time against the forces of evil. The imperfect world will be destroyed so a new, perfect world will arise.
Kismit
That's very interesting Bella. Any idea how old that particular belief is?

After years of looking into Pagan based faith and belief. I would have to agree on a general level they do not believe in an end of days. If the Earth is gone the spirit will still remain. The Spirit world and the living are the same things just different sides of the coin. There is also no judgement, except your own and Karmic reprecussions so there is no need for a Judgement day or a day of reckoning.

They also on the whole don't have one singular all powerful God. They believe in many spirits with usually a lead Male and Female spirit. These spirits are neither Good or Evil they just are, they do there job they are important and occasionally you can get a little help from the right one when you need it.

With a collection of Gods it is much harder to have one make any magor decisions that will effect everything. Far safer and more practicle, it's the democratic religion. yes.gif
Tangerine Sheri
i don't know much on this philosophy except from reading on here and having a dear friend that is pagan but i will say from what i have seen on this site from the people here such as Kismet , Darkwind, silver cougar these are amazing people who live a life that is an inspiration to all and to me.. if i was ever to do religons this is one of the ones i would choose.but for now i enjoy learning about it. grin2.gif
newbloodmoon
From what I have read about, and talked with Wiccans of different systems of belief I have yet to see an end all of all end alls in their belief system. It's more of a cyclical thing. In other words your car doesn't stop just because your wheels have made one complete turn. Or if they wear out from use you just get new tires. (over simplified I know sorry)
Chiron_the_Horse
QUOTE(Rasani @ Feb 11 2006, 02:42 PM) [snapback]1058108[/snapback]

well this is interesting geek.gif i go to a catholic school and thier concept is really askew , no offense , but i know many cultures have a end of the world out look , and if thios is one thing that doesnt i find that quite........... awesome , i mean why does the world have to end disgust.gif i mean at one point it should , but it doesnt have to innocent.gif this i really quite kewl i have a whole new respect for wiccans tongue.gif

We do not practice witchcraft. My wife and I are heavily into this and I am a priest of sorts and she is a healer. It has been my way of life for many years.
scoobysnack
QUOTE(Rasani @ Feb 11 2006, 02:42 PM) [snapback]1058108[/snapback]

well this is interesting geek.gif i go to a catholic school and thier concept is really askew , no offense , but i know many cultures have a end of the world out look , and if thios is one thing that doesnt i find that quite........... awesome , i mean why does the world have to end disgust.gif i mean at one point it should , but it doesnt have to innocent.gif this i really quite kewl i have a whole new respect for wiccans tongue.gif


I grew up Catholic but do not consider myself Catholic today. I'm alarmed at what you said you were taught in school. The world does not end. The world as we know it will end, but life will continue for many more centuries. If you stictly follow the bible, you know after the rise of the antichirst followed by second coming of Christ is followed by 1,000 years of heaven on earth. The world will not end, but America's super power status will come to an end likely in the next 25 years, no later then the end of this century. Why? It's part of the agenda for creating a world government to be ruled by a world governing body of elites.

Even the Mayan, and Hopi indian prophecy say it's not the end, simply the end of the old world and start of the new world.
Tangerine Sheri
edit: doesn't fit the flow of converstaion....
Tangerine Sheri
QUOTE(Kismit @ Feb 13 2006, 03:15 PM) [snapback]1060269[/snapback]

That's very interesting Bella. Any idea how old that particular belief is?

After years of looking into Pagan based faith and belief. I would have to agree on a general level they do not believe in an end of days. If the Earth is gone the spirit will still remain. The Spirit world and the living are the same things just different sides of the coin. There is also no judgement, except your own and Karmic reprecussions so there is no need for a Judgement day or a day of reckoning.

They also on the whole don't have one singular all powerful God. They believe in many spirits with usually a lead Male and Female spirit. These spirits are neither Good or Evil they just are, they do there job they are important and occasionally you can get a little help from the right one when you need it.

With a collection of Gods it is much harder to have one make any magor decisions that will effect everything. Far safer and more practicle, it's the democratic religion. yes.gif



One word kismet owned this!!! applause bounce.gif namsate sheri
SilverRain Queen


In the Wiccan belief, there is no End-time concepts. Life is an eternal flow ring and everything goes back to the beginning eventually. Belief in the Goddess, (mother earth spirit) that she is in control of everything. Nature will take it's course to purge anything that becomes detrimental to the preservation of the life cycle. So if there is an 'end-time' so to speak, it's the earth purging this interference (man) off the planet.
bloodfire777
Thanks everyone for your great replies. I really dont know what I believe but it is all very interesting to me. I dont know, it is so hard, i dont know. But thanks again for the feedback.
The Raven
QUOTE(Kismit @ Feb 13 2006, 04:15 PM) [snapback]1060269[/snapback]

That's very interesting Bella. Any idea how old that particular belief is?


I'm not Bella but I do know an acceptable amount of information on Norse beliefs, and as far as I know, this belief has most likely been around since 200 A.D. at the very least. It is likely to have existed long before that, but because there are few if any written Germanic/Scandinavian records created during that time, it is nearly impossible to determine.

Although, as Bella said, the world would come to an end in a final battle that would end the lives of even the Gods themselves, a new world would be created afterward and humans to repopulate it. Two of the deities I remember reading about that survive Ragnarok are Vidar, God of Silence, and his brother Vali, God of Vengeance.
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