There is a new video out today showing British troops beating up Iraqi teenagers,this was supposedly taken in 2004, its just been released to the British press.
My gut feeling is it will be another fake video trying to make the Muslims angry at us.
This has been released at a time when Muslims are protesting against the cartoons. Do you think its another way of stirring up trouble?
Link http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/story_pages/news/news1.shtml

Wow, wait... billstevo is actually admitting that Brits did something wrong!?



Oh, wait... nm.

dont know that its a fake

but i cant say the soldiers reaction was bad

lets try and remember, tensions are high

a grenade was thrown from the crowd, seems reason enough to go try and apprehend the kids

the soldiers MAY have over-reacted, but like i said, tensions being what they are

lets also try and keep in mind

these soldiers are people just like you and i

they arent mindless robots

they have emotions and feelings

they react to things like everyone else

Et's daddy, can you please learn how to form a coherent paragraph instead of a bunch of different unpunctuated sentence fragments? It's really irritating.



My opinion? Coming from a country of people known to conquer and enslave people, take their crops during a famine and fathering the biggest prick in Europe, abuse by British soldiers seems very real to me.




Ned.


Edited for language...
-Disinterested.

Er, um

It is a war.

These things have happened throughout history. We just happen to have video now.

I am not condoning the incident, just saying that it is nothing new.

Probably real, despite such an unreliable source. It would be typical of the News of the world to sensationalise a story like this, so thats what I'm guessing is going on. Especially since its hard to find a nudge over this story anywhere else.



Ned - If I were you I'd avoid such blatant racism in the future; Especially considering this site has a huge weighting of non-american members (mainly composed of British, Canadian and Scottish folk) and is actually run from the United Kingdom. As such, I'd apprecciate it if you could refrain from making such comments in the future.

I agree with Ned even tho I am Scottish that the Uk is a nation of enslavers for their own financial gain - think India, Ireland, Scottish Highlands, America (before they flung the tea in the harbour in disgust!) And now we have an oil crisis in the US and all us white folks revert to type and go to Iraq under false pretences to commandeer their oil and finances.
The only reason I got News of the World yesterday was to get free John Cleese video and when I checked out the headline I was disgusted but not surprised.
Soldiers are trained to kill in "conflict" and 99.9% are family men who would NOT inflict suffering in their civvie lives - the only way to do their job is to dehumanise the "enemy" and that goes for both sides. As another reader said its war and is nothing new - except we have 24hr voyeuristic access to it and if we support the war in Iraq then we should be able to take whatever images comes out and suck it up.

Scottish folk are British as well, I know many that would rather they weren't but thems the facts.

I'll hold my judgement on this story until a few more facts come out, the NOTW are not beyond making up these kind of stories just to sell papers so lets wait and see what the truth is.

Scottish people are not British people. British people live in Britain, which is also England. People who live in England are English people. People who live in Scotland are Scottish people. People who live in Wales are Welsh. Scotland has a set of laws to its own as well as the UK ones. And I do believe they set up their own parliament a while back, I could be mistaken. So, whoever you are, the UK is not England. England is a part of the UK, sharing space with nations like Scotland and Wales. Whether you conquered them or not, they have a startlingly different culture and are NOT part of England. Perhaps the only reason why Britain herself wasn't damaged even more after the War of 1812 was because you guys sucked up to the Yanks right after. So whoever made that comment, don't be going around being a concieted smartass. Be respectful.


And what's wrong with a little beating up here or there? It's not like this is the worst the British have ever done... my uncle would know.

My comment was perfectly respectful, and was merely asking that you were mature enougth to show the same respect. Obviously you hold some kind of grudge against the British involving your uncle which you're expressing here - I'd ask you to please not go into it any further; This isn't the place.

Oh please! Go and read a book before you tell someone they're wrong, you just end up making yourself look stupid. I've underlined the parts where you're wrong.

CIA - The World Factbook.

conventional long form: United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland; note - Great Britain includes England, Scotland, and Wales
conventional short form: United Kingdom
abbreviation: UK

England has existed as a unified entity since the 10th century; the union between England and Wales, begun in 1284 with the Statute of Rhuddlan, was not formalized until 1536 with an Act of Union; in another Act of Union in 1707, England and Scotland agreed to permanently join as Great Britain; the legislative union of Great Britain and Ireland was implemented in 1801, with the adoption of the name the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland; the Anglo-Irish treaty of 1921 formalized a partition of Ireland; six northern Irish counties remained part of the United Kingdom as Northern Ireland and the current name of the country, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, was adopted in 1927.

English people are British
Scottish people are British
Welsh people are British
Northern Irish people are British

Look ..... i was over in Desert Storm and i did not see this type of activity without something that really really warranted it , when you gotta look out for your own arse you gotta do what you gotta do , its just someone trying to give the military and bad or worse image than the world and especially the news has already gave them , this is a weird time for me because i actually get to view the news this time and the news people or at least some of them are really blowing things way out of proportion SUPPORT OUT TROOPS

someone needs to teach the brats a lession, they deserved the have the crap beaten out of them.

This is a typical piece of british MEDIA PROPAGANDA. The whole tape shows those little sh#ts throwing petrol bombs and launching mortars into the british base.

As usual the news of the world decided to not show that part of the video in an effort to sell newspapers! Im sick of my own country sticking up for these scumbags and using any way it can to show its own people as brutal and evil forces. Do they realise the tension they cause and are putting our troops at risk? YES BUT THEY DONT CARE! In my eyes they should have shot them all, they were lucky to leave with just a good kicking. The bottom line is they were threatening the lives of soldiers.

The UK is so politically correct that its now sticking up for the people who bomb us and terrorise us and will do anything to stab its own people in the back to sell papers. In the UK last christmas in stoke on trent we had to change all banners that said "christmas" to "winterfest" because muslims complained that the word christmas was offensive! I wonder if this post will be cut due to it being offensive to precious muslims whos religion and belifs we cannot possibly criticise.

Remember these are the people who wage holy war on anything western just because they want to and we are supposed to be grateful and respect their prehistoric crap!

What ever happened to freedom of speeech?

I do understand where you are coming from but to be fair I think you'll find that very few if any muslims complained or said they found the use of the word Christmas offensive, it's local councils who are to blame for this, they are acting so politically correct they are afraid to do anything that they think could upset what are seen as minority groups in the UK. If you can find any sources that say it's because of muslim outrage rather than councils perceiving muslim outrage I'd be surprised.

The muslim community in stoke actually had a big campaign about it in the local rag. Honestly they wrote in and made the council take action and they did. The newspaper put pressure on the council and with the council not wanting to look racist by not giving in to ethnic minorities demands they changed.

Needless to say the mayor who originally urged the minorities to write letters to the paper was booted out after his term finished. Why must the UK be held to ransom by minorities in fear of being branded racist. Im not a racist, i just dont belive that being held to ransom by minorities is right. Would they be as eager to please us if we moved to their countries and erected churches and segregated ourselves and build up mini cities and advertised for jobs but only whites could apply?

In the UK its now racist to say im proud to be white! that type of comment will get you branded a white hood wearing thug. When the euros was on in 2004 and england were in it we were told in a national newspaper to not put st georges flag up as it was offensive to muslims!! IM not kidding! Lots of pubs were made to take down enland flags in our own country because of the offense it was causing and nobody said anything about it. I wish st george was around today, hed have cut off the heads of anybody who deared come out with such crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No they werent, not at the time they were beaten.

Well if it was that big you'd be able to provide a source.