I don't hunt so I don't know if the details as provided sound fishy.

Is it possible and reasonable to believe you could accidently shoot a "friend" while hunting birds. aren't you shooting them in flight? above 6 foot from the ground.


I guess what sounded fishy to me was that it was kept quiet, and the VP did not have a valid hunting licence, like there was no record he was hunting at that time.

The Man shot was a lawyer, I don't know what he did as a lawyer, helping the VP in past dealings or current ones. I sure bet more would have happened to a regular citizen if he shot a friend and was not current on his hunting licence.

Anyone know more about the lawyer or what he did for or with the VP in the past?

Thanks, joe

I don't either really, but I know a little about it, didn't sound fishy to me one bit unless I think real hard in the worst ways possible.

Yes it is possible to shoot someone. This is why there are certain procedures to follow that were not followed by the lawyer resulting in him being in a bad spot and nobody knew about it. The shot that was fired spreads out over a pretty good area, small pellet/bb type shot from what I gather. It's perfectly reasonable that if you're in the wrong place at the wrong time and don't let anyone know, that something bad might happen to you.

You think that was fishy about "keeping it quiet", I *Still* want to know why Hillary sat on Vince Fosters *Death* for over 24 hours. But really it doesn't seem fishy to me at all. All the information on the why's and how's of it is out there. The only ones questioning are the ones that *Always* have a problem with Bush and co., because they breathe air.

Yes the man shot was a lawyer. Which pretty much makes Cheney a national hero, representing everyone in the nation that's ever wanted to shoot a lawyer.

Wonder if either of the Clintons are going out on a hunting outing with Cheney anytime soon... hmm...

I'm with on the vince foster one.

I am just thinking of the VP one like this, I shoot someone by accident, I call 911, I AM GETTING questioned by the police and will make the local news as "hunter shoots buddy" or the like. Plus if I dont have a licence, my vehicle can be confiscated, my weapon taken from me. Hey he just anounced he will talk tonight on fox news about the incident. So I will get a better opinion after hearing things first hand.

Oh and I am a Bush supporter, not a hater, he earned my vote as the better choice for president.



Of what I saw and heard on fox news, There is a Bill? that was just voted on to make it a felony to leave the scene of a hunting accident when someone is shot.

It was unoffically referred to as Cheney's law.

The VP reminded me of George Castanza during the interview. I believe he was honest with his feelings of concern, but I could not help remembering George tell Jerry, It's not a lieing if "you" believe it!


There was a mention of a beer at lunch. If I choose to have a beer, I tend to have 2 or three, not just one, otherwise I stick with soda or juice. Hey that's just me.With all the folks that were "following him" like secret service, med team etc, how did no one give warning? Also the VP described that the sun was behind the lawyer (and the targeted bird?) so that contributed. He also said Harry was down a bit in elevation like in a ravine or ditch. I wonder where the sun is in relationship to that lower point?

All in all I think there was no wrong doing, just not the best way of presenting what happened.

BUT why hasn't Harry done a press conference yet? The doctors mentioned he was staying in intensive care for another day or a few, and that he was going to resume some law work from his bed. I guess Larry's of being visible is going to be what the news groups jump on.

Have you ever been in intensive care? He was shot and had a pellet in/on his heart. Let the guy rest for a bit.He is preparing to sue Cheney.

The guy wasn't aimed at and shot, he was sprayed with buckshot when Cheney aimed at a bird and fired. He was in the line of fire, Cheney didn't look, that's his only fault.
I think the guys evil but accidents bloomin happen.

What's the motive to actually hurt his friend? And if he was trying to shoot him, did he think he wouldn't get in flack for it? None of it makes sense. If you want to actually off someone, you don't accidentally spray them with buckshot.

They kept it quiet because he didn't have a licence to hunt, i'm guessing. Not to mention he's the VP and is obviously gonna get in flack for it. Besides i don't get this whole big deal for keeping it quiet, is it really everyone elses business? Seems a little childish of the media to get angry at the administration for not immediately telling them the second it happened that cheney was responsible for a hunting accident. I bet this actually happens on at least a bi-daily basis to no-name regular hunters.

The whole things has just been blown way out of proportion in my opinion.

Burnside,
My immediate reaction was to agree with you, but being the skeptic that I am, I decided to do a little checking first. I was surprised to find...

A new report shows Texas hunting accidents in 2004 decreased to the lowest amount since statistical records began in 1966. The number of people injured in hunting accidents in Texas decreased from 44 in 2003 to 29 in 2004, although fatalities increased from two to four during the same period.

Not that it has any bearing on how I feel. It was an accident. Not every garage with no windows has a black helicopter hidden inside.

Glad to hear that hunting accidents are declining, at least in one state.
They do still happen though!

I agree with this totally...

And I think the media is all bunched about it because of the secret's and misinformation that has come out of Cheney's people this entire 6 years... I mean Halliburton, scandels, he has shunned and kept his business secret to the media for 6 years now. This is a way for the media to get payback on him.....

Of course, I myself have been bird hunting and you will get a fine and possible jail for no license alone. Also you should have your eyes open when you shoot a shotgun. And a fundamental rule that is always followed or at least my hunting party always followed it. And that is you do not shoot at all until you see sky under the bird. There is a reason for that.

Now, I dont think he shot the dude on purpose, it was a freakin accident, but the media is gonna use this to burn Cheney's secret administration. I mean this VP hasnt done a press conference in 3 years.....Unlike most past VP's we have had. This guy's hands are dirty, but for not having a license and also for Halliburton....<----That is the crooks of it.

Yes, they certainly do.(accidents) BTW, while I was looking, I noticed a downward trend in each State I saw. I picked Texas as it was germane to the topic.

Check the official jokes thread. I found some good ones on the Net and decided to put them there, not here. (didn't want a mod to whack me again, it hurts.)

I believe Public Service people do need to have their business known, especially in situations where the "potential" for things to be misunderstood exist.

The apearance of inpropriety can do more harm than an action itself.

As for accidents, they have consequences. You can drive a car after having a beer (or two if your blood alcohol level is below legal limits) and be involved in an accident. The mere fact you had been drinking will be noted, and considered a contibuting factor, even if the accident was not your fault. You will get sued if the person has been seriously injuried.

I think folks in politics need to keep in mind there are implications to doing things when proper protocols are not followed.

How may places that allow hunting serve liquor to their guests, prior to a hunt? don't you usually go to the lodge after the day is done?

joe

I think it was stupid to spend an entire day reporting this on the news. Things happen. It was an accident, get over it.

--Jon

Here is video footage of the shooting!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_X5ryBGHGA...heney%20hunting

lol thanks for the video link. loved it!

Was that Alan Colmes???

I don't know.