I was wondering if anybody can shed some light on this topic? I was told by a friend that some time ago the americans did an experiment on a war ship named Philadelphia which involved making the ship become invisible using strong magnets.
The ship dissapeared and was seen by a boat 200 miles away from where it dissapeared and then re appeared again. When it re appeared some of the men on board were stuck to and had become part of the ship and those who survived had serious mental problems because of the things they saw. Could be the magnets because they are known to cause hallucinations but what about those guys being "stuck" in the ship?
Sounds wierd. My friend read about it in a book on conspiracies.
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sounds pretty darn wierd. how big was the boat? 
The Philadelphia Experiment is an urban myth about a secret experiment conducted by the U.S. Navy at the Philadelphia Naval Yards at Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, on or before October 28, 1943, which went horribly awry. It is also called "Project Rainbow".
Every member of the ship's crew denies that any form of this event ever occured. All scientists and naval historians note the entire affair is an urban legend.
Philadelphia Experiment
Every member of the ship's crew denies that any form of this event ever occured. All scientists and naval historians note the entire affair is an urban legend.
Philadelphia Experiment
QUOTE(Pax Unum @ Feb 15 2006, 05:43 PM) [snapback]1062719[/snapback]
The Philadelphia Experiment is an urban myth about a secret experiment conducted by the U.S. Navy at the Philadelphia Naval Yards at Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, on or before October 28, 1943, which went horribly awry. It is also called "Project Rainbow".
Every member of the ship's crew denies that any form of this event ever occured. All scientists and naval historians note the entire affair is an urban legend.
Philadelphia Experiment
My friend said that the book stated that when it came to light and was investigated the navy did a classic cover up and denied all knowledge of the experiment as weve seen with all government projects and accidents such as roswell. Im not trying to say that its true but isnt it possible that it could have happened and was covered up? there were all sorts or experiments going on in the war years, i mean stalin even tried to make super soldiers that were a product of gorilla and human dna and thats a proven fact.
I think its entirely possible. If you could make stuff invisible during a war you would win hands down. after all you cant shoot what you cant see! Every developed nation is constantly trying to improve technology so that in the event of war they will have the upper hand. I dont think this story is too far fetched. sounds very beliveable to me.
I read on this site just the other dat that somebody had made an invisibility cloak using gold and some kind of radiation
http://www.viewzone.com/philadelphia.html check this out
Maybe you will like this.
1943 - Tesla submits last project to government
Nikola Tesla (1856 - 1943)
Nikola Tesla, the eccentric - and unbelievably underrated - genius known as the ‘wild man of electronics’, was without doubt one of the greatest minds in the history of the human race.
Admittedly, he also had more loose screws than a Mechano set.
If it weren't for this slightly manic genius, you wouldn't be reading this page, you probably wouldn't be doing it in a brightly-lighted room - and you sure as hell wouldn't be reading it on your computer.
Tesla invented the alternating-current generator that provides your light and electricity, the transformer through which it is sent, and even the high voltage coil of your picture tube. The Tesla Coil, in fact, is used in radios, television sets, and a wide range of other electronic equipment - invented in 1891, no-one's ever come up with anything better.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Born in Austro-Hungary (now Croatia) in 1856, Tesla constructed his first induction motor in 1883 and immigrated to America in 1884 - arriving in New York with worldly goods totalling four cents, a pocket full of poems, carefully worked calculations for a flying machine, and a head full of strange dreams and grandiose plans.
Tesla began working with Thomas Edison, but the two men were worlds apart in both their science and cultures (the fact that Tesla's alternating-current concept posed a direct threat to sales of Edison's direct-current devices probably didn't help) and they soon went their separate ways.
Letting Tesla go wasn't the brightest thing Edison had ever done, though - George Westinghouse promptly snapped up the patent rights to Tesla's alternating-current motors, dynamos and transformers; triggering a massive struggle which eventually saw Edison's direct-current systems relegated to second place, and the DC motors installed in German and Irish trains only a few years before, rendered obsolete.
But not without a fight. Advocates of direct-current power - desperate to discredit their alternating-current competitor - claimed that AC current was hazardous to humans. In support of their argument, DC defenders took the novel approach of using a standard Westinghouse (AC) generator to discharge death sentences in New York State.
An interesting approach (to say the least), although futile in the long run.
In 1893 Westinghouse used Tesla's alternating-current system to light the World's Columbian Exposition in Chicago.
Edison was not a happy man. His company, General Electric, had also bid for the lighting contract, but the GE proposal would have cost roughly twice as much and have produced less light for a lot more heat.
In a snit of truly massive proportions, Edison tried to ban the use of 'his' light bulbs with Telsla's electrical system, and urged General Electric to bar the use of the company's lamps in any Westinghouse exhibits.
Despite Edison's tantrums, Westinghouse soon gained a contract to build the massive turbines at Niagara Falls, and alternating-current was firmly entrenched.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Tesla went on to set up his own lab.
Within a short time, he had pre-empted Wilhelm Rontgen's discovery of X-rays with his own experimental shadowgraphs; the relays, vacuum tubes and transistors of future decades with his electric logic circuits; even the wireless radio - the principles of which were described by Tesla in minute detail years before Marconi transmitted his first morse code message.
Tesla, on hearing of Marconi's efforts, is said to have remarked to a friend: "Marconi is a good fellow. Let him continue. He is using 17 of my patents." If so, Tesla changed his mind eventually, suing Marconi for patent breach.
The court eventually found for Tesla after examining some circuit diagrams he had designed in 1893, and Marconi's patents were declared invalid in 1935. Unfortunately, the law suit dragged out until a few months after Tesla's death and he never saw a penny in compensation.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Always, Tesla returned to electricity - Tesla loved electricity, and was fascinated with lighting, speaking often of some future world filled with electric light.
In a determined effort to prove the safety of his new alternating-current lighting system, Tesla would often light lamps by using his own body as an electrical conductor, to the somewhat muted cheers of an uneasy audience.
Turning to studies of resonance, by 1898 Tesla had designed an oscillator that generated half a million volts.
Convinced he could develop enough power to: "split the earth like an apple" and disinclined - for reasons he no doubt thought good ones at the time - to destroy New York City, Tesla moved his experiments to Knob Hill near Colorado Springs, in a structure that included a roll-back roof to prevent fires from the sparks sent out while he tinkered with transformers.
The first time Tesla tested one of his inventions at full power, the roar was heard for more than 16 kilometres (10 miles).
Unfortunately, Nikola's test also blacked out the entire city of Colorado Springs and set the power generator on fire. Amicable relations were restored when Tesla paid to replace the generator.
(The people of Colorado Springs must have been a tolerant lot. Tesla's experiments would sometimes result in sparks coming up through the ground of the city and sparking from fire hydrants - one experiment grounded out the plumbing of the entire city.)
Tesla's Magnifying Transmitter, an early type of Tesla Coil that measured 16 metres (52 feet) in diameter, could transmit tens of thousands of watts without wires.
Tesla managed to light 200 lamps, without wires, from 40 kilometres (25 miles) away. But his proudest achievement was the production of man-made lightning. The Magnifying Transmitter could produce incredible electrical flashes measuring up to 41 metres (135 feet).
Unfortunately, when Tesla left the lab in 1900, the structure was demolished and the contents sold to pay debts. Very little survived of some of Tesla's most amazing inventions.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
In January 1900, capitalised by American financier J P Morgan, Tesla returned to New York to work on his ‘wireless world broadcasting tower’. Even before Marconi's morse code 's' hit the airwaves, Tesla was determined that his invention wasn't going to be limited to dots and dashes.
Tesla planned on linking the world together through its telephone and telegraph systems, transmitting pictures and text from one end of the globe to the other in minutes, and delivering mail between special terminals, using electronic messaging.
Unfortunately, labour disputes and financial panic got in the way, and Tesla's Long Island construction was abandoned when Morgan withdrew funding. It was Tesla's greatest disappointment, and a loss to the entire world.
Once again, much of Tesla's work was lost to us when the Wardenclyffe Tower was dismantled for scrap towards the end of World War One.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
During the Panic of 1907, Tesla ensured the survival of the Westinghouse company by giving up patent payments for a nominal sum. Unfortunately, he also ensured his own financial ruin.
When World War One began in 1914, Tesla lost his payments from European patents. By 1916, he was living in poverty and had filed for bankruptcy to escape a massive tax debt.
Soon afterwards, Tesla began to show symptoms of Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder. The symptoms became pronounced very quickly, and what was left of his already 'eccentric' reputation was soon in tatters.
Still, he wouldn't give up. Tesla turned down an attempt by European friends to raise funds and continued to exist on a modest pension from Yugoslavia. He moved into a small hotel room and continued to research.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
At the age of 81, Tesla challenged Einstein's theory of relativity, announcing that he was working on a dynamic theory of gravity that would do away with the calculation of space curvature.
The theory was never published, but a similar theory involving gravity waves - developed in the mid-1990s - is used in the study of plasma cosmology (which explains properties of energy and the structure of the universe by studying the electromagnetic effects of plasma).
In 1943, at the age of 86, Tesla offered his much-vaunted 'Death Ray' to the US War Department. There's some confusion on whether the 'ray' consisted of laser or particle beams (both of which Tesla had been mulling over for years), or if a working prototype had been developed.
Tesla couldn't share the details. In a coincidence eerie enough to raise the hackles of conspiracy theorists to this day, Tesla died sometime between that evening and when his body was found three days later.
Nikola Tesla - the man who made Leonardo da Vinci look like a precocious pre-schooler - died of heart failure, alone and destitute in a shabby hotel room.
And then the FBI nicked everything he owned.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Financial restrictions meant that many of Tesla's greatest ideas were limited to copious quantities of written notes - notes which even today are studied by engineers for unused ideas. But for a man of his time, with his limited resources, the list of Tesla's achievements are more than astonishing, they are truly awe-inspiring.
Even apart from the first AC motor, the radio, the Tesla Coil, vacuum tubes, X-rays and hydroelectric generators, Tesla had time to develop:-
* The loudspeaker
* Fluorescent lights
* Radar
* The rotary engine
* Microwaves
* The basis for diathermy (deep heating tissues through the use of high-frequency electrical current), and
* An 'automatic mechanism controlled through a simple tuned circuit' - remote radio control.
And to ponder:-
* Missiles
* Particle beam weaponry
* Satellites
* Nuclear fission, and
* Robots
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
In the best tradition of mad scientists, Nikola Tesla had his less than rational moments. In vulgar parlance, Nik's cheese quite often escaped his cracker.
Totally incapable of understanding even basic finances, this was also a man with a germ phobia of which Howard Hughes would have been proud. Tesla believed extraterrestrials had contacted him in Colorado Springs, he suffered from hallucinations, night tremors, and a terrified loathing of women wearing earrings.
He also had the rather anti-social habit of spending his time at dinner parties calculating the cubic contents of his plate.
Okay, so Nikola Tesla was as loopy as they come - he was also the most brilliant fruitcake in existence.
1943 - Tesla submits last project to government
Nikola Tesla (1856 - 1943)
Nikola Tesla, the eccentric - and unbelievably underrated - genius known as the ‘wild man of electronics’, was without doubt one of the greatest minds in the history of the human race.
Admittedly, he also had more loose screws than a Mechano set.
If it weren't for this slightly manic genius, you wouldn't be reading this page, you probably wouldn't be doing it in a brightly-lighted room - and you sure as hell wouldn't be reading it on your computer.
Tesla invented the alternating-current generator that provides your light and electricity, the transformer through which it is sent, and even the high voltage coil of your picture tube. The Tesla Coil, in fact, is used in radios, television sets, and a wide range of other electronic equipment - invented in 1891, no-one's ever come up with anything better.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Born in Austro-Hungary (now Croatia) in 1856, Tesla constructed his first induction motor in 1883 and immigrated to America in 1884 - arriving in New York with worldly goods totalling four cents, a pocket full of poems, carefully worked calculations for a flying machine, and a head full of strange dreams and grandiose plans.
Tesla began working with Thomas Edison, but the two men were worlds apart in both their science and cultures (the fact that Tesla's alternating-current concept posed a direct threat to sales of Edison's direct-current devices probably didn't help) and they soon went their separate ways.
Letting Tesla go wasn't the brightest thing Edison had ever done, though - George Westinghouse promptly snapped up the patent rights to Tesla's alternating-current motors, dynamos and transformers; triggering a massive struggle which eventually saw Edison's direct-current systems relegated to second place, and the DC motors installed in German and Irish trains only a few years before, rendered obsolete.
But not without a fight. Advocates of direct-current power - desperate to discredit their alternating-current competitor - claimed that AC current was hazardous to humans. In support of their argument, DC defenders took the novel approach of using a standard Westinghouse (AC) generator to discharge death sentences in New York State.
An interesting approach (to say the least), although futile in the long run.
In 1893 Westinghouse used Tesla's alternating-current system to light the World's Columbian Exposition in Chicago.
Edison was not a happy man. His company, General Electric, had also bid for the lighting contract, but the GE proposal would have cost roughly twice as much and have produced less light for a lot more heat.
In a snit of truly massive proportions, Edison tried to ban the use of 'his' light bulbs with Telsla's electrical system, and urged General Electric to bar the use of the company's lamps in any Westinghouse exhibits.
Despite Edison's tantrums, Westinghouse soon gained a contract to build the massive turbines at Niagara Falls, and alternating-current was firmly entrenched.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Tesla went on to set up his own lab.
Within a short time, he had pre-empted Wilhelm Rontgen's discovery of X-rays with his own experimental shadowgraphs; the relays, vacuum tubes and transistors of future decades with his electric logic circuits; even the wireless radio - the principles of which were described by Tesla in minute detail years before Marconi transmitted his first morse code message.
Tesla, on hearing of Marconi's efforts, is said to have remarked to a friend: "Marconi is a good fellow. Let him continue. He is using 17 of my patents." If so, Tesla changed his mind eventually, suing Marconi for patent breach.
The court eventually found for Tesla after examining some circuit diagrams he had designed in 1893, and Marconi's patents were declared invalid in 1935. Unfortunately, the law suit dragged out until a few months after Tesla's death and he never saw a penny in compensation.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Always, Tesla returned to electricity - Tesla loved electricity, and was fascinated with lighting, speaking often of some future world filled with electric light.
In a determined effort to prove the safety of his new alternating-current lighting system, Tesla would often light lamps by using his own body as an electrical conductor, to the somewhat muted cheers of an uneasy audience.
Turning to studies of resonance, by 1898 Tesla had designed an oscillator that generated half a million volts.
Convinced he could develop enough power to: "split the earth like an apple" and disinclined - for reasons he no doubt thought good ones at the time - to destroy New York City, Tesla moved his experiments to Knob Hill near Colorado Springs, in a structure that included a roll-back roof to prevent fires from the sparks sent out while he tinkered with transformers.
The first time Tesla tested one of his inventions at full power, the roar was heard for more than 16 kilometres (10 miles).
Unfortunately, Nikola's test also blacked out the entire city of Colorado Springs and set the power generator on fire. Amicable relations were restored when Tesla paid to replace the generator.
(The people of Colorado Springs must have been a tolerant lot. Tesla's experiments would sometimes result in sparks coming up through the ground of the city and sparking from fire hydrants - one experiment grounded out the plumbing of the entire city.)
Tesla's Magnifying Transmitter, an early type of Tesla Coil that measured 16 metres (52 feet) in diameter, could transmit tens of thousands of watts without wires.
Tesla managed to light 200 lamps, without wires, from 40 kilometres (25 miles) away. But his proudest achievement was the production of man-made lightning. The Magnifying Transmitter could produce incredible electrical flashes measuring up to 41 metres (135 feet).
Unfortunately, when Tesla left the lab in 1900, the structure was demolished and the contents sold to pay debts. Very little survived of some of Tesla's most amazing inventions.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
In January 1900, capitalised by American financier J P Morgan, Tesla returned to New York to work on his ‘wireless world broadcasting tower’. Even before Marconi's morse code 's' hit the airwaves, Tesla was determined that his invention wasn't going to be limited to dots and dashes.
Tesla planned on linking the world together through its telephone and telegraph systems, transmitting pictures and text from one end of the globe to the other in minutes, and delivering mail between special terminals, using electronic messaging.
Unfortunately, labour disputes and financial panic got in the way, and Tesla's Long Island construction was abandoned when Morgan withdrew funding. It was Tesla's greatest disappointment, and a loss to the entire world.
Once again, much of Tesla's work was lost to us when the Wardenclyffe Tower was dismantled for scrap towards the end of World War One.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
During the Panic of 1907, Tesla ensured the survival of the Westinghouse company by giving up patent payments for a nominal sum. Unfortunately, he also ensured his own financial ruin.
When World War One began in 1914, Tesla lost his payments from European patents. By 1916, he was living in poverty and had filed for bankruptcy to escape a massive tax debt.
Soon afterwards, Tesla began to show symptoms of Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder. The symptoms became pronounced very quickly, and what was left of his already 'eccentric' reputation was soon in tatters.
Still, he wouldn't give up. Tesla turned down an attempt by European friends to raise funds and continued to exist on a modest pension from Yugoslavia. He moved into a small hotel room and continued to research.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
At the age of 81, Tesla challenged Einstein's theory of relativity, announcing that he was working on a dynamic theory of gravity that would do away with the calculation of space curvature.
The theory was never published, but a similar theory involving gravity waves - developed in the mid-1990s - is used in the study of plasma cosmology (which explains properties of energy and the structure of the universe by studying the electromagnetic effects of plasma).
In 1943, at the age of 86, Tesla offered his much-vaunted 'Death Ray' to the US War Department. There's some confusion on whether the 'ray' consisted of laser or particle beams (both of which Tesla had been mulling over for years), or if a working prototype had been developed.
Tesla couldn't share the details. In a coincidence eerie enough to raise the hackles of conspiracy theorists to this day, Tesla died sometime between that evening and when his body was found three days later.
Nikola Tesla - the man who made Leonardo da Vinci look like a precocious pre-schooler - died of heart failure, alone and destitute in a shabby hotel room.
And then the FBI nicked everything he owned.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Financial restrictions meant that many of Tesla's greatest ideas were limited to copious quantities of written notes - notes which even today are studied by engineers for unused ideas. But for a man of his time, with his limited resources, the list of Tesla's achievements are more than astonishing, they are truly awe-inspiring.
Even apart from the first AC motor, the radio, the Tesla Coil, vacuum tubes, X-rays and hydroelectric generators, Tesla had time to develop:-
* The loudspeaker
* Fluorescent lights
* Radar
* The rotary engine
* Microwaves
* The basis for diathermy (deep heating tissues through the use of high-frequency electrical current), and
* An 'automatic mechanism controlled through a simple tuned circuit' - remote radio control.
And to ponder:-
* Missiles
* Particle beam weaponry
* Satellites
* Nuclear fission, and
* Robots
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
In the best tradition of mad scientists, Nikola Tesla had his less than rational moments. In vulgar parlance, Nik's cheese quite often escaped his cracker.
Totally incapable of understanding even basic finances, this was also a man with a germ phobia of which Howard Hughes would have been proud. Tesla believed extraterrestrials had contacted him in Colorado Springs, he suffered from hallucinations, night tremors, and a terrified loathing of women wearing earrings.
He also had the rather anti-social habit of spending his time at dinner parties calculating the cubic contents of his plate.
Okay, so Nikola Tesla was as loopy as they come - he was also the most brilliant fruitcake in existence.
QUOTE(captain pish @ Feb 15 2006, 11:54 AM) [snapback]1062735[/snapback]
My friend said that the book stated that when it came to light and was investigated the navy did a classic cover up and denied all knowledge of the experiment as weve seen with all government projects and accidents such as roswell. Im not trying to say that its true but isnt it possible that it could have happened and was covered up? there were all sorts or experiments going on in the war years, i mean stalin even tried to make super soldiers that were a product of gorilla and human dna and thats a proven fact.
I think its entirely possible. If you could make stuff invisible during a war you would win hands down. after all you cant shoot what you cant see! Every developed nation is constantly trying to improve technology so that in the event of war they will have the upper hand. I dont think this story is too far fetched. sounds very beliveable to me.
I read on this site just the other dat that somebody had made an invisibility cloak using gold and some kind of radiation
http://www.viewzone.com/philadelphia.html check this out
and in the decades since this experiment was conducted, the BEST the world governments have been able to come up with for anti-radar detection, is angled surfaces and radar absorbing materials... yah
Bella...
Thank you. I had thought I knew about Tesla, but that info was some I had never before seen.
While reading about some of his ideas lost to us, I couldn't help but think about the losses when the library at Alexandria was lost to the world.
If Tesla had been able to complete his work, I wouldn't be typing this post. That would have gone by the wayside in about 1940! I might drive myself mad imagining what computers would be like now. As they may be in another 65 years.
Genius and insanity: twins at different parties.
Thank you. I had thought I knew about Tesla, but that info was some I had never before seen.
While reading about some of his ideas lost to us, I couldn't help but think about the losses when the library at Alexandria was lost to the world.
If Tesla had been able to complete his work, I wouldn't be typing this post. That would have gone by the wayside in about 1940! I might drive myself mad imagining what computers would be like now. As they may be in another 65 years.
Genius and insanity: twins at different parties.
QUOTE(Pax Unum @ Feb 15 2006, 06:32 PM) [snapback]1062775[/snapback]
and in the decades since this experiment was conducted, the BEST the world governments have been able to come up with for anti-radar detection, is angled surfaces and radar absorbing materials... yah
Yeah and the fastest plane is the blackbird which was made in the fifties? i dont think so pal! open your eyes. We didnt know about the blackbird or the sas til the 80's. You are very naive to think that a government in the business of war like america would reveal all of its latest technological breakthroughs to the world?
The govenment denied the existence of the blackbird up until somebody put a picture under their noses and said whats this then u bullsh#tting bas#ards? to which they replied Oooooooh......... THAT blackbird...... erm...... well........... yeah........ didnt we mention that before?
Secret Military experiments take place when they want to keep things SECRET! that means they dont tell anybody. You cant say its untrue purely because of the tehnology we have SEEN today because it about 30 years out of date. Have you seen the fibre optic invisibility system on tanks that projects the picture from the other side making it appear invisible? No? check it out. Have you seen the exoskeleton that can carry 2 tons on a soldiers back?no? check it out. Have you seen the shoulder mounted anti building gun that can level a building with sound waves which marines carry now? No? then look on the net. these are all things available and in use now and these are all things that the government CHOSE to disclose to the public!
Imagine what they keep secret. What are all the UFOs that are sighted over area 51 and on video? i suppose they are swamp gas rising off the desert floor and reflecting off venus to create a light anomoly are they? no!!!!! they are top secret government craft that they deny the existence of because they are SECRET so the dont tell anybody. Just like the air base area 51 that doesnt exist yet is perfectly real in the middle of the nevada desert.
If the government officially deny the existence of area 51 which the whole world has seen on film or with the naked eye, do you really think that they would say "ok you got us.. the philadelphia experiment DID happen but we didnt say anything because its top secret"
I REST MY CASE
QUOTE(captain pish @ Feb 15 2006, 01:08 PM) [snapback]1062822[/snapback]
Yeah and the fastest plane is the blackbird which was made in the fifties? i dont think so pal! open your eyes. We didnt know about the blackbird or the sas til the 80's. You are very naive to think that a government in the business of war like america would reveal all of its latest technological breakthroughs to the world?
The govenment denied the existence of the blackbird up until somebody put a picture under their noses and said whats this then u bullsh#tting bas#ards? to which they replied Oooooooh......... THAT blackbird...... erm...... well........... yeah........ didnt we mention that before?
Secret Military experiments take place when they want to keep things SECRET! that means they dont tell anybody. You cant say its untrue purely because of the tehnology we have SEEN today because it about 30 years out of date. Have you seen the fibre optic invisibility system on tanks that projects the picture from the other side making it appear invisible? No? check it out. Have you seen the exoskeleton that can carry 2 tons on a soldiers back?no? check it out. Have you seen the shoulder mounted anti building gun that can level a building with sound waves which marines carry now? No? then look on the net. these are all things available and in use now and these are all things that the government CHOSE to disclose to the public!
Imagine what they keep secret. What are all the UFOs that are sighted over area 51 and on video? i suppose they are swamp gas rising off the desert floor and reflecting off venus to create a light anomoly are they? no!!!!! they are top secret government craft that they deny the existence of because they are SECRET so the dont tell anybody. Just like the air base area 51 that doesnt exist yet is perfectly real in the middle of the nevada desert.
If the government officially deny the existence of area 51 which the whole world has seen on film or with the naked eye, do you really think that they would say "ok you got us.. the philadelphia experiment DID happen but we didnt say anything because its top secret"
I REST MY CASE
believe what you will...
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