Just post your thoughts on the poll...
I don't wanna say my opinion, I dont wanna hurt anyones feelings

I wouldn't say science or religion are responsible for life at all.

Science is just study, and religion is just faith.

I still voted for science however, since i'm supposing you ment 'creation' or 'evolution'.

That is what I meant, thanks for clearing that...
Science as in the big bang and all that stuff; religion as in intelligent design and that the old testament is true.

Neither.

I believe that we don't know.

Science is the study of things. It didn't create them.

Reigion is a belief system. It didn't vreate anything.

Your poll Qs are poorly formed. I'm not trying to be mean but the answers don't fit the Q.

I vote for neither because science is a study of processes and religion is a construct of beliefs neither one is capable of creation only interpretations.

Science as they say is just the study of things created not the cause....

Religion is not the cause, but I voted for it, because I believe that God did create this world vers the big bang or evolution for many very logical reasons.

Neither.
They are both tools for mankind to increase comprehension and understanding.

Uhhh, no offense but are yall unintelligent...?
I clearly stated what i meant by science after what burnside said....sorry if yall werent smart enough to notice that.

You should have an opinion. If its neither than what do u believe?

Please stop repeating each other. We know he meant if life began through natural ways (science) or supernatural ways (religion). Stop hitting the poor guy

thanks bud
I think theyre copying burnside so they sound smart

I beleive that evolution is a theory wich is mostly correct, but not nearly as scientists make it out to be. I'd say both that choice was available, but since I believe God was responsible wether it be through evolution or not I'll choose religion.

Neither of the two.

"Science" is the study of life and it's surroundings. "Religion" is only a belief that something caused our place here on Earth.

Neither are relevent in this case.


EDIT: Oops! I replied without voting or reading. Either way, it's only down to common sense.

Same with me. I believe in evolutionism, it is not even a theory, it's a fact. However I think that it was all orchestred by God.

However, I voted for Science (biological way, scientifical way, natural way, whatever you want) because, even if God was the maestro, the musician, the tool, was nothing more than physichs.

I only find that adaption is fact, but the entire Theory of Evolution as fact? Nah. Not in my opinion.

Lol, you're saying that because you hadn't considered it yourself. The question was worded wrong, that's all. No offense.

As soon as god created the world science was possible to have an opinion about things.

You mean that life can't have had a natural origin? Evolutionism doesn't say anything about the begining of life, only about how it evolved (thus the term evolutionism, sorry for the redundancy). I would like to agree with you but I will play safe, maybe we will live to see the day when Man creates life. Don't get me wrong, I don't want it to happen.

I believe God created the world...... through evolution. I can not vote in this poll, unless there is a 'both' answer.

Regards, PA

well I read that in the bible it said that god created life ,
so god could have created one cell organisms, and evolution took care of the rest in theory.
but this is not what I feel I am to strong a pro evolution person to talk about with out getting mad ( I have gotten into lelling fights with out kids at school) so I will not talk about my opinion at the moment

^Its a touchy subject, The religous get frustrated at the pro evolutionists because if god had nothing to do with creation than it disproves everything that they beleive in while aetheists such as my self get frustrated because they beleive that evolution is a proven fact and that the proposition of an intelligent "godly" creator is absurd, so I choose "Science".

BTW: I meant no offence by this post, its just a simple observation I have made, It all comes down to individual beleifs and comfort... I choose not to beleive while others put their faith in their beleifs...

I voted science, but that's only because I feel it played a very signifcant role (ie evolution etc) in the creation and propegation of life. however that doesn't mean I am completely ignoring religion, I just like to side with whatever I feel safest with...haha...

So no one here is at all deeply religious?...wow

^^If by deeply religious you mean ignoring science, then there are very few of those people out there at all.....

Regards, PA

^^^
I am deeply shallow...

I pick neither they both need to change.

Science needs to be 100% facts and theories kept seperate.
And religion needs to add facts and adapt as new information is discovered.

I use to like science as a kid till I found out that most the stuff I was learning was theories, "Educated guesses" as my teacher said it. Sounds like faith to me. All I ever wanted was the facts but no educated BS pilled on more educated BS. That changes every 3 to 4 years.

And religion keeps making up excuses and reasons on why there god didnt do what they promised he would, instead of just saying well S*it guys there realy is no proof that believing in this guy will save your life. But it does make a good story.

EXACTLY man, you got it. In fact, religion does change as new information comes out, but they STILL get ridiculed for it. When evolution was discovered, people starting realizing that Genesis may not be literal.

And science does need to change. If someone disagrees with a well accepted theory, they are looked down upon, but then a few years later that same theory ends up changing.

I agree with you 100%...although I don't follow religion I still believe in God but I too voted science

Which religion adapts Zero?
The one that riots over cartoons and circumcises their women? Or is it the one that condems birth control (despite 700,000 children starving to death each day because their parents cannot feed them) and hates gay people?

Religion sticks by its dogma regardless of the facts.

Dinosaurs are a figment of our imagination placed there by gawd to challenge our faith?

How does religion adapt?
Science forms a hypothesis. From there we try to prove a theory, based upon valid, verifiable facts. What does religion do but shout fire and brimstone to those who choose not to espouse their BS?

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Let me correct myself. Christians.

Alot of them, including myself, understand the bible better as new discoveries surface.


"Religion has to change! It's stupid! Oh no, not science, it's perfect!".


Well, actualy science itself is good, it's the humans that work with it who need to change. When someone disagrees with science, people act like they are disagreeing with the one and only undeniable truth. And that just pisses me off.

I take it science was not your best subject at school zero

Hah, so you believe science tells you the 100% undeniable truth? Wow, you surely put a limit on yourself. Ever heard of thinking for yourself?


I agree that most of what science says is backed up very very well, but then there are those that agree with it just because it's science and just because that's what everyone else is doing. I'm not afraid to disagree with science when I don't see it the same way science does. I wouldn't consider it the undeniable truth.

Well I don't think that either are perfect but I voted for "science". When it comes to creation, some religions do not make logical sense to me (like emerging from an egg). However, I do think that they are nice embellishments.

No matter what your opinion is on how we came to be, it is religion and science that allows us to KEEP our place here on Earth.

Faith in a religion gives so many people hope, comfort and a feeling of 'reason' to be here. That in itself allows us to grow, evolve, and basically keep on living.

Science allows us to understand the life and world we live in. Without it, we wouldn't be capable of preventing the harms that come our way. We wouldn't survive without it.

neither

Can I ask you why you say - Neither? and what are your thoughts on the topic how did we come about ect? TY

I agree with a lotta people here. But when you say neither though, do you mean that neither has enough information to explain the vast creation of life or that neither one is at all accurate??

Possibly both. I don't think that there is enough information to prove any claims to be fact. That in turn means that there is no possible way of knowing what is accurate, and what is not.

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Let me correct myself. Christians.

Alot of them, including myself, understand the bible better as new discoveries surface.
"Religion has to change! It's stupid! Oh no, not science, it's perfect!".
Well, actualy science itself is good, it's the humans that work with it who need to change. When someone disagrees with science, people act like they are disagreeing with the one and only undeniable truth. And that just pisses me off.
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did we ever say that science is perfect, no we didn't, all we said it fits a lot more of evidence then stuff like ID and its stuff like what your saying that caused that incident in dover . we never said ANYthing was 100% correct NOTing is ever 100% correct OKAY

P.S this is why I try to not talk about my views on this I just get very upset by some things

Tornado I gotta 2 cents this: Faith is another way of saying i am not responsible for anything, how does one find comfort in fear and conditions, I see this "faith thing as shelter from fear and sad at best...A very warped understanding IMO namaste sheri

I disagree wit the creeper, you can be 100% sure even if it isnt fact...its ur personal belief.
However something being the truth or not is different

of science and religion,

both are man's attempt to explain
explain the past, predict the future, manage the present.

science is born of religion
science is a religion

now religion wishes to be a science
to prevent being replaced by by science
where religion is a philosophy
and as a philosophy it should stay

so to answer the question,
neither provides the answers
both provide explanations
explanations limited by the very nature of man himself
for how to peer beyond such limits?

(bonjour sheri!)

Neither...This poll is pathetic. Science is not a religion in my eyes. Maybe you can consider it a religion but I consider it the facts of life. We can confirm science but we can not confirm religion. By having 'Religion' as an option does not make any sense. There are many religions that have different views about how life started and how life works. Neither religion is right or wrong and not one is superior than the other. You also can't put them all together and consider them one. You need to be more detailed if you are going to make a poll like this.

Dnb, refer to the first page...hopefully it can be more clear to your very small intelligence

Okay, I'll add more detail:

All I want to know is other people's perspectives on what created the world. I think of it as one of two things: Science, inclusive of evelution, the big bang, etc., and Religion, whatever it may be where some all mighty force created it with the wave of a finger.
Basically, is it paranormal or just scientific?

Hope this helps, if not I'll make it even clearer what i wanna know

I hope this teaches you one thing. Take a little more time in formulating your Qs for your next poll. Like many HBs, you acted before you thought...

Yeah, but at least do you understand it NOW??

Ok, I still wanna know something... Whats so wrong with religion. Is their really scientifical proof that says that all religion is false?

Oh, and pleeease dont say anything already said....Just new stuff; I've gotten enough critisism

All creation came from one source. Some call that God or a Big Bang or whatever. Evolution started after that moment.

So it could be a mix of science and religion? Interesting...good point