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__Kratos__
Link

You can find registered sexual offenders around you if you type in your address. Knowing is for your safety, and your family's. yes.gif

Pass this along to friend and other family members. thumbsup.gif

I'm kind of shocked how many are around me... 198 within my zip code and I live in a small village. no.gif I looked at there photos and infomation (click the boxes on map) and I've seen some of these people around.
Rykster
Thanks Kratos. That link has been added to my favorites. Where do I go to get a license to hunt these creatures?
Bella-Angelique
Some of those creatures could have been framed by pissed wealthy or well connected people.
Do not ever forget that about anyone who has been convicted of anything in our less than perfect judicial system where promotion is based on how many are convicted, not how many are found innocent, or in trying to find the truth at all.
__Kratos__
QUOTE(Bella-Angelique @ Feb 17 2006, 01:21 PM) [snapback]1066032[/snapback]

Some of those creatures could have been framed by pissed wealthy or well connected people.
Do not ever forget that about anyone who has been convicted of anything in our less than perfect judicial system where promotion is based on how many are convicted, not how many are found innocent, or in trying to find the truth at all.


Well... still they are still convicted. I'm not going to turn the other cheek because they say they are innocent. Better safe then sorry...
Celumnaz
Pretty wild how they can do that. Wonder if there's a similar way to find registered gun owners?

It found 208 in my zip.
Lottie
Crikey thats amazing! They should do something like that over here.
SnakeProphet
US only, I suppose. Too bad......I guess.
Tia
I wish they'd do it here as well. disgust.gif

I'm not talking about hunting them down, but as a parent for the safety of your own child...........

__Kratos__
QUOTE(Celumnaz @ Feb 17 2006, 01:51 PM) [snapback]1066071[/snapback]

Pretty wild how they can do that. Wonder if there's a similar way to find registered gun owners?

It found 208 in my zip.


Dang...that's quite a lot. no.gif

I've heard of other countries having things that this sickos have to sign up, and keep an up to date address... could check goverment sites.
_Nyx_
0 offenders in my zip code..... happy.gif
aquatus1
There's a controversy regarding double jeapordy with this program as well. The basics is that, having already been punished for the crime with jail time, it is unlawful to be punished again by making their crime known to the community, leading to inevitable bias, job difficulties, and possibly even physical danger.

It's a tough crime to judge on. Sure, it seems pretty black and white on the surface, but when one becomes involved with the details, it gets very involved.
dariaru05
Here is the problem with many sex offenders, namely pedophiles.....the high rate of recidivism. I know these people have done their time and all, but knowing who they are and where they are allows the rest of us to stay away from them and protect the kiddies from them.

Also, bear in mind that a victim of a sex offender never completely recovers, and the memory of the deed is still in his/her mind long after the sex offender serves his sentence and is finished with probation.

In my state, there's a disclaimer on the sex offender registry that states the website is not to be used to harass the sex offenders. I would also have to make the argument against the double jeopardy question....most crimes are a matter of public record anyway. Anybody could walk into the court house and look up anybody else's record in that county. That's how it works where I live, anyway.
XSAS
QUOTE(__Kratos__ @ Feb 17 2006, 06:56 PM) [snapback]1066003[/snapback]

Link

You can find registered sexual offenders around you if you type in your address. Knowing is for your safety, and your family's. yes.gif

Pass this along to friend and other family members. thumbsup.gif

I'm kind of shocked how many are around me... 198 within my zip code and I live in a small village. no.gif I looked at there photos and infomation (click the boxes on map) and I've seen some of these people around.


Nice find Kratos, I wish it covered the UK also.

198 in your village alone... that is worrying.
tcgram
Thanks for the info, Kratos! I found 164 in my zip code...that's a scary thought with 2 kiddos running around.... hmm.gif
__Kratos__
QUOTE(XSAS @ Feb 20 2006, 01:27 AM) [snapback]1069725[/snapback]

Nice find Kratos, I wish it covered the UK also.

198 in your village alone... that is worrying.


I would have hoped more countries would have this around. hmm.gif I think it's only a matter of time though. original.gif

I'm more ticked then worried right now. Mainly because this place is roughly 4 miles by 4 miles (give or take .1's) and the area around it that is also my zip code, there is 2 grade schools (one's private), a middle school, 4 parks and 2 day cares within the limits. There is basically no where around here where you can drive/walk where you won't come into contact with kids. no.gif

QUOTE(tcgram @ Feb 21 2006, 08:23 AM) [snapback]1071758[/snapback]

Thanks for the info, Kratos! I found 164 in my zip code...that's a scary thought with 2 kiddos running around.... hmm.gif


At least you know now. hmm.gif


Kryso
It is a sick world we live in.

Not long ago I was reading a true crime book, and a small girl was abducted from a well know British beach. The police had access to photos taken by people who approached the police after a request for any family beach shots that would have been taken on that particular day. On that one beach alone, after the various photos were developed, and studied, 39 know and convicted sex offenders were on that one beach, on that particular day. They all had to be checked out. One of them had taken the child.
Lottie
^ I bet I could hazard a guess as to what beach that was too.. no.gif
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(Bella-Angelique @ Feb 17 2006, 01:21 PM) [snapback]1066032[/snapback]

Some of those creatures could have been framed by pissed wealthy or well connected people.
Do not ever forget that about anyone who has been convicted of anything in our less than perfect judicial system where promotion is based on how many are convicted, not how many are found innocent, or in trying to find the truth at all.

Nice way to defend sex offenders. Guess what. I have kids. So they are guilty in my book. You don't take chances.
chunga
QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Feb 21 2006, 01:58 PM) [snapback]1072429[/snapback]

Nice way to defend sex offenders. Guess what. I have kids. So they are guilty in my book. You don't take chances.

Where's innocent until proven guilty? Cannot throw out all the apples cause one might be bad. That is illogical. Even when facing one of the worst human perversion's as this subject, we must believe in rehabilitation in case it is true for some or even one.

Are you against Rehabilitation in general or just willing to throw all sex offender's in the volcano on the slight chance something might happen to one of your kids, maybe?.
Where is justice in your thinking. Everyone deserves the opportunity to serve time, change ways, and start again. Some will fail, probably most, yet some will succeed . Your taking someone's chance at redemption away, that isn't fair and balanced which is your usual style ericraven2003.


PLEASE, understand me, Iam a mom of 5 and as cautious and hyper paranoid as the rest of you parent's. Lady Justice is blind- we must give all an equal opportunity to reform or at least be found guilty before dragging them off to the guillateen.
__Kratos__
QUOTE(chunga @ Feb 21 2006, 04:20 PM) [snapback]1072472[/snapback]

Where's innocent until proven guilty?


To get on this list, the person is convicted. thumbsup.gif Even shows the charges of each person, of what they did to get on the list.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(chunga @ Feb 21 2006, 04:20 PM) [snapback]1072472[/snapback]

Where's innocent until proven guilty? Cannot throw out all the apples cause one might be bad. That is illogical. Even when facing one of the worst human perversion's as this subject, we must believe in rehabilitation in case it is true for some or even one.

Are you against Rehabilitation in general or just willing to throw all sex offender's in the volcano on the slight chance something might happen to one of your kids, maybe?.
Where is justice in your thinking. Everyone deserves the opportunity to serve time, change ways, and start again. Some will fail, probably most, yet some will succeed . Your taking someone's chance at redemption away, that isn't fair and balanced which is your usual style ericraven2003.
PLEASE, understand me, Iam a mom of 5 and as cautious and hyper paranoid as the rest of you parent's. Lady Justice is blind- we must give all an equal opportunity to reform or at least be found guilty before dragging them off to the guillateen.


Any person that commits a sex offense against a child should be executed. The reoffend rate in sex offenders can be up to 85%.
I believe in reabilitation but just not in sex offenders.
chunga
QUOTE(__Kratos__ @ Feb 21 2006, 02:25 PM) [snapback]1072481[/snapback]

To get on this list, the person is convicted. thumbsup.gif Even shows the charges of each person, of what they did to get on the list.


This simply means that they offended, served time, released and on their way. Are they not allowed to visit a beach? We were discussing the chance of reciditism. Not all those people on that beach are back to their old ways.
Do we know for sure these people were child sex offender's? Does that make any difference? Justice is blind and once you are through and set free , people have the choice to live a decent life or go bad again. They are given that chance. We can't have a set of rules for one group and different rules for others. Justice for ALL.

People let their emotions get too involved with their judgement when it comes to these type of crimes. Thank Goodness we have jury's and judges to keep things fair.

Ericraven2003, did you say They should be executed? Boy its sounding more and more like the Middle East around here today.
__Kratos__
QUOTE(chunga @ Feb 21 2006, 06:56 PM) [snapback]1072699[/snapback]

This simply means that they offended, served time, released and on their way. Are they not allowed to visit a beach? We were discussing the chance of reciditism. Not all those people on that beach are back to their old ways.
Do we know for sure these people were child sex offender's? Does that make any difference? Justice is blind and once you are through and set free , people have the choice to live a decent life or go bad again. They are given that chance. We can't have a set of rules for one group and different rules for others. Justice for[/u]

People let their emotions get too involved with their judgement when it comes to these type of crimes. Thank Goodness we have jury's and judges to keep things fair.

Ericraven2003, did you say They should be executed? Boy its sounding more and more like the Middle East around here today.


The rates are very high for offenders to reoffend on more victims. Also, once they have been released they are given a good list of things of not to do, some of those things are not be with children under the age of 16 without another proper adult around and even possible to be held away from parks, schools and such for the protection of society.

No, any sex offender should be looked into for the beach kidnapping. They have priors that gives the police good reason to look into them.

Rules, that when broken can limit freedoms.

Indeed, judges and juries to keep things in balance. As one of the principles of the justice system is the punishment must fit the crime. Jail times for sexual offenders can be from 60 days, as in a recent case, up to years... but the horrors the victims went through will be with them for the rest of their lifes, often times ruining their lifes and even leading them to suicide. That's not fair to them in any shape, form or way. no.gif

I agree with Ericraven2003 all the way in him saying they should be executed. yes.gif
chunga
QUOTE(__Kratos__ @ Feb 21 2006, 05:27 PM) [snapback]1072715[/snapback]

The rates are very high for offenders to reoffend on more victims. Also, once they have been released they are given a good list of things of not to do, some of those things are not be with children under the age of 16 without another proper adult around and even possible to be held away from parks, schools and such for the protection of society.

No, any sex offender should be looked into for the beach kidnapping. They have priors that gives the police good reason to look into them.

Rules, that when broken can limit freedoms.

Indeed, judges and juries to keep things in balance. As one of the principles of the justice system is the punishment must fit the crime. Jail times for sexual offenders can be from 60 days, as in a recent case, up to years... but the horrors the victims went through will be with them for the rest of their lifes, often times ruining their lifes and even leading them to suicide. That's not fair to them in any shape, form or way. no.gif

I agree with Ericraven2003 all the way in him saying they should be executed. yes.gif


Forced Sterilization, Electric chair for All, Good Night Irene I cannot believe the pure Eye for an Eye mentality. All victims of crime suffer. Its very individual how one reacts to such tragedy. Killing is not the answer , ever.

" He hated, he killed, and now he dies....We hate and we kill ...and now .... What????"

~Rod Serling 1955
__Kratos__
QUOTE(chunga @ Feb 21 2006, 08:12 PM) [snapback]1072758[/snapback]

Forced Sterilization, Electric chair for All, Good Night Irene I cannot believe the pure Eye for an Eye menality. All victims of crime suffer. Its very individual how one reacts to such tragedy. Killing is not the answer , ever.

" He hated, he killed, and now he dies....We hate and we kill ...and now .... What????"

~Rod Serling 1955


I'll just agree to disagree with you.
Pyro Pheenix
A rapist was actually moved to a farm 30 minutes walk from where I live. And I live about 2 minutes drive from a primary school mellow.gif
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(chunga @ Feb 21 2006, 06:56 PM) [snapback]1072699[/snapback]

Ericraven2003, did you say They should be executed? Boy its sounding more and more like the Middle East around here today.

If a child is sexually hurt through somone. They should realize they have given up their life. Chunga, if you had 3 year old, and some man raped your child, you would want him reabilitated. I would want him dead. Hell, I would volunteer to execute him.
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Feb 22 2006, 04:20 PM) [snapback]1073525[/snapback]

If a child is sexually hurt through somone. They should realize they have given up their life. Chunga, if you had 3 year old, and some man raped your child, you would want him reabilitated. I would want him dead. Hell, I would volunteer to execute him.

My thoughts exactly....I would gladly do the time if anyone did that to my kid
Lottie
Same here! Anyone who feels the need to rape, brutalise and murder a child is a nutter and should be killed so they can't do it again.
chunga
QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Feb 22 2006, 08:20 AM) [snapback]1073525[/snapback]

If a child is sexually hurt through somone. They should realize they have given up their life. Chunga, if you had 3 year old, and some man raped your child, you would want him reabilitated. I would want him dead. Hell, I would volunteer to execute him.


I can with empathy understand your perdicament, yet Killing is one of the 10 Comandments. We must not become the evil action's that we are appalled by.
We dont lower ourselves to the level of the perpetrator. You could and would take the life
of another? Sad, I have thought highly of you my friend. Sorry to say you dissapoint me with your lack of higher thinking and feeling. Your child, if killed, would not want more killing to go on. She/He would not want father to kill. They are peaceful angels children are and would want you to respect their goodness while here and stay civilized. More hurting wont console you friend. Forgiveness and Let go. I dont truly believe that you would do it if
given the opportunity.

We cannot let our fears and pains breakdown the laws of justice or we would be back in Dodge with a gun on every hip and a dead body on every corner. Use your brain and dont react like an unevolved animal. You are human, act like it.
yes.gif
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(chunga @ Feb 22 2006, 11:34 AM) [snapback]1073613[/snapback]


I can with empathy understand your perdicament, yet Killing is one of the 10 Comandments. We must not become the evil action's that we are appalled by.
We dont lower ourselves to the level of the perpetrator. You could and would take the life
of another? Sad, I have thought highly of you my friend. Sorry to say you dissapoint me with your lack of higher thinking and feeling. Your child, if killed, would not want more killing to go on. She/He would not want father to kill. They are peaceful angels children are and would want you to respect their goodness while here and stay civilized. More hurting wont console you friend. Forgiveness and Let go. I dont truly believe that you would do it if
given the opportunity.

We cannot let our fears and pains breakdown the laws of justice or we would be back in Dodge with a gun on every hip and a dead body on every corner. Use your brain and dont react like an unevolved animal. You are human, act like it.
yes.gif

I am an agnostic so I don't really believe in an afterlife, so to me all we have if is this life. I believe in Justice and a eye for an eye. Sorry to disappoint you, but I would most assuredly kill the man or woman who hurt or killed my child.No hesitation. For any parent to say something different does not compute to me. no.gif
chunga
QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Feb 22 2006, 09:41 AM) [snapback]1073618[/snapback]

I am an agnostic so I don't really believe in an afterlife, so to me all we have if is this life. I believe in Justice and a eye for an eye. Sorry to disappoint you, but I would most assuredly kill the man or woman who hurt or killed my child.No hesitation. For any parent to say something different does not compute to me. no.gif


How sad for you then. A man does not have to be religeous to act in a cerebral , nonviolent way. If I were agnostic, and I do believe I was until I had my first child, I would not take the life of another no matter what the reason. That is like hitting one of my kids and screaming Don't hit your brother. Or, like saying Damnitt dont swear like that. You cannot change negative behaviors while demonstrating the same evil back . It just is illogical, this eye for an eye thing doesnt compute. How primitive of someone worth so much more. crying.gif Iam done here, you make your own mistakes friend. Oh, and say hi to that pooch of yours for me. He's a cutie, still looks like a wolf to me though. original.gif
distortedpandy
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Unfortunately, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, and Vermont do not currently provide addresses for registered sex offenders


dontgetit.gif

well isn't this peachy...

and I'm sorry...if someone hurt my child...they would die a very long and painful death by my hand...
ShadowDancer
I am a spiritual person but I am also very protective of my child, if something like that happened to my child, the offender would not live to see the next day.
dariaru05
It's a sick, sad world we live in......

I'm all for rehabilitation, but not in the case of sex offenders. As far as I'm concerned there is no such thing for these people. The statistics verify what I'm saying. The majority reoffend.

Another sick tidbit...I read somewhere that for every 1 kid you know about that the sex offender has hurt, there are 8-10 kids you don't know about. sad.gif

I used to work with victims, so that's why I get so fired up.
Xenojjin
273 here.

I live in such a great Sector....

However only about 56 of them can be counted as true sex offenders. Most of them are red dots that list "attempted sexual conduct/sexual conduct with a minor" and the photos of those offenders show that most of these guys arent much older then 25 . Im willing to bet that all they did was do it with a teenage girl ... pfffft. Not noteworthy.


Edit - Oh look. apperantly after looking at 100 or so red dots one of these guys is actually listed as sexually assaulting a minor. Wow. Were listing young men who simply had sex with a teenage girl under the same code as child rapists. I have just lost even more faith in our judicial system.
Megalomania
I wish they had one for here.

That way I could explain to my girlfriend that she shouldn't walk around at night.
Imaginary Friend
:)Thank you so much for this link. I plan to post it on the boards I am member of so as to spread the awareness of these threats to the innocence this corruption represents.


*a rant moment* angry.gif I searched for just my State and local zip code, and then for those in proximity to my address. Incredible! The number of threats currently at large and threatening our children.

I see those markers on that map and I think , what the hell are we doing as a society intent on halting the free expression of civil liberties so as to effect "National security", and yet the system of justice sets these deviant bullet magnets free to prey upon us.

I think how lovely to set them all into a sentence of life without parole, on an island somewhere. The real "Exile Island Reality Program". No food or supplies to effect the incarceration, just the exile on an island in the middle of the sea. And to insure these credits to fertilizer will never escape, train the surviving family members of the victims to staff the prison islands coast guard. Armed to the teeth, with orders to "terminate with extreme prejudice" in the event of escape attempts.

And if someone decides to go vigilante, well .... can't fault vigilance in the preservation of a child's innocence. Because this kind of evil is not capable of being saved! One can never re-form the mind of someone that is sexually aroused to action by the body of a baby!NEVER!!! *yes, they can be dissuaded through applied means. (chemical castration, castration surgery, etc), however the compulsion is always present in the genetics that can not be altered. (Yet! Though if there was ever a cause to expand DNA research..... devil.gif )

I would further advise policy on this island of the damned to include immunity from further prosecution for crimes committed while incarcerated there for life. Because the fewer there are day by day, the fewer there are day by day! thumbsup.gif

Child Rape = Death!

Meanwhile , the assets of these offenders would be seized and the proceeds would go to their victims.

Child rapists = Deserve no material equity. (assets)

Child rapists = no asset to society! While retaing the legal appeals process so as not to make the justice system criminal in itself, by sentencing the unjustly accused. (i.e. Misconduct by any of either member side in the legal process. Including the introduction of a prosecutorial process that attends any one in the justice system (attorneys, prosecutors, police, etc...) that conspired to sentence the innocent. Sentencing would include being incarcerated on that same pedophile island! Yes I realize that would be akin to throwing meat to a starving tiger, however I see it as an contemporary elevation of that old adage; Kill two birds with one stone. In that it would afford the just opportunity for curbing many sick birds on one large rock! wink2.gif innocent.gif

*steps from soap box, wanders off imaging the forturne that could be made if but for the introduction of a real reality pay-per view program *Proceeds to attend survivors/families.* featuring a theme something like; "Hunt that baby raper, win a prize!" user posted image

*No trophies permitted! Instead, the carcass is stuffed and mounted in the Innocence project museum, (all glass facility), to display to the public and as warning to the sick scum that roam among us. "Rape a baby and this shall be you!" (Carcass to be displayed with it's a giant copy of the criminal record that made it all possible.


Sound harsh!?


Imagining this disease of pedophilia penetrating innocence, sometimes as young as months of age ...

*see registered sex offender map for refresher on just what that means, really!!!*

What do you imagine that feels like!?


Eye for an eye may be said to make the whole world blind, however there are some creations that do not deserve the life they have, for the threat they pose to the public that never see's them coming! Or does and remains complacent or intimidated by clerical colars and Habits, or simply one's own damnable complacency!

Then, before opposing such a measure, imagine asking the parent(s) of that innocent child what they would give to return the innocence to that life of the child.





chunga
QUOTE(Bella-Angelique @ Feb 17 2006, 11:21 AM) [snapback]1066032[/snapback]

Some of those creatures could have been framed by pissed wealthy or well connected people.
Do not ever forget that about anyone who has been convicted of anything in our less than perfect judicial system where promotion is based on how many are convicted, not how many are found innocent, or in trying to find the truth at all.


Absolutely. thumbsup.gif
Imaginary Friend
QUOTE
yet Killing is one of the 10 Commandments. We must not become the evil action's that we are appalled by.


Baby rape is against the commandment of preservation of innocence and the morality invested in simple human decency and normality! And the God's never said culling the herd of sickness was a sin. Murder is effected by cold blooded killing. Killing a baby rapist is not cold blooded killing, nor is it vengeance. It is justice for a life that has not the respect, to respect a childs right to live unscathed by vile hands, demented members weilded as weapons by unfit minds.

Baby rapists are like unto a terminal malignant disease that is no different in the need to have excised from the body of society to insure the survival of the healthy aspect of society!

If one believes a pedophile shall burn in hell for the sins committed, (if there did exist any capacity to respect a concept like "salvation" baby rapers would never have committed the offense in the first place. Jesus was around , it's not his fault they didn't care to care about that until it was their hide to be crucified! God commanded the killing of vile evil people in the old testament, and the new insured the slaughter of countless generations in his name. Therefore it can never be against god to effectively honor that covenant in this 21st century that continues to suffer the creator of all things providing us the opportunity unabated!
chunga
QUOTE(Imaginary Friend @ Feb 23 2006, 09:27 AM) [snapback]1075306[/snapback]

Baby rape is against the commandment of preservation of innocence and the morality invested in simple human decency and normality! And the God's never said culling the herd of sickness was a sin. Murder is effected by cold blooded killing. Killing a baby rapist is not cold blooded killing, nor is it vengeance. It is justice for a life that has not the respect, to respect a childs right to live unscathed by vile hands, demented members weilded as weapons by unfit minds.

Baby rapists are like unto a terminal malignant disease that is no different in the need to have excised from the body of society to insure the survival of the healthy aspect of society!

If one believes a pedophile shall burn in hell for the sins committed, (if there did exist any capacity to respect a concept like "salvation" baby rapers would never have committed the offense in the first place. Jesus was around , it's not his fault they didn't care to care about that until it was their hide to be crucified! God commanded the killing of vile evil people in the old testament, and the new insured the slaughter of countless generations in his name. Therefore it can never be against god to effectively honor that covenant in this 21st century that continues to suffer the creator of all things providing us the opportunity unabated!


Sorry wrong theology to be quoting. You have a illustration of Budha, Iam a roman catholic and follow the laws of Jesus Christ. Catholics believe all killing,murder,suicide whatever you label it is wrong and against God's wishes. Police who kill in the line of duty will be held accountable for thier actions as well. They chose of their free will to become something that may need to kill. That choice makes them accountable for any killing on their behalf.
Go tell it to Madonna... I think she's a Budhist.
master fly jack fresh
Because I live in england that site wont work so does anyone know one that will?
Imaginary Friend
QUOTE(chunga @ Feb 23 2006, 05:46 PM) [snapback]1075327[/snapback]


Sorry wrong theology to be quoting. You have a illustration of Buddha, Iam a roman catholic and follow the laws of Jesus Christ. Catholics believe all killing,murder,suicide whatever you label it is wrong and against God's wishes. Police who kill in the line of duty will be held accountable for thier actions as well. They chose of their free will to become something that may need to kill. That choice makes them accountable for any killing on their behalf.
Go tell it to Madonna... I think she's a Budhist.



Actually , with all due respect, you are in error to presume my statement was in reference to the doctrines ascribed by the Church of Rome, and the "New American Bible" also referred to as the Vatican Bible.

And to imply my reference was more in keeping with Buddhism is an unfortunate example that while you profess the faith of a Roman Catholic, you are certainly ignorant of the teachings of Siddhartha Gautama. (The Madonna reference, a sarcasm unworthy of further comment.)

My statement applied to the Christian precepts of the Judeo Christian faith and the King James Bible, with respect to the 10 Commandment, and particularly the admonition present as The 6th Commandment, "Thou Shalt Not Murder." (As opposed to the contemporary rendition as it reads; "Thou Shalt Not Kill.)

The Roman Catholic Catechism reads: "You shall not kill". This being the case I would not refer to that Religious admonition to make my opinon, for it would do no wise to attend to the logic afforded my posting by alluding to that which has been exampled in contrariness to that Commandment, by the bloody history that attends the Roman Catholic History.
The Crusades, Inquisition and Hussite Wars, but just three examples of the Church of Rome not only advocating killing/murder, but sponsoring the commission for aquisition to expand the domain of the faith. Todays Church is in no wise pasive in it's command of the faithful under it's charge nor it's intent to remain in power and far reaching.

Furthermore, a history recorded by rended flesh and blood in the name of the Roman Catholic Faith shall never be obscured by the paneling of General Council of the Roman Catholic Church in their attentions to the Councils Agendas to accommodate the faith by augmenting it's tenets unto keeping abreast of contemporary societies socio-political evolution, since the inception of the Councils with that of what was the template for those of the future; Nicea 1, in 325. (link)

Furthermore, given this history of applying that which is tantamount to an edit to the inspired word of god, it is hubris to contend the Roman Catholic Church does not condone killing in any respect as if that is the canonical absolute. Given the omission of the 2nd Commandment and the prohibition of Idols.

QUOTE
(Exodus 20:2-7).
I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
You shall have no other gods before Me.
You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; 5you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, 6but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.


Therefore an admonition against my personal observations on this issue, including those religious references contained therein, are relevant in the context to which they were applied; as not in relation to the Catholic ecclesiastical ideology.
chunga
QUOTE(Imaginary Friend @ Feb 23 2006, 03:47 PM) [snapback]1076000[/snapback]

Actually , with all due respect, you are in error to presume my statement was in reference to the doctrines ascribed by the Church of Rome, and the "New American Bible" also referred to as the Vatican Bible.

And to imply my reference was more in keeping with Buddhism is an unfortunate example that while you profess the faith of a Roman Catholic, you are certainly ignorant of the teachings of Siddhartha Gautama. (The Madonna reference, a sarcasm unworthy of further comment.)

My statement applied to the Christian precepts of the Judeo Christian faith and the King James Bible, with respect to the 10 Commandment, and particularly the admonition present as The 6th Commandment, "Thou Shalt Not Murder." (As opposed to the contemporary rendition as it reads; "Thou Shalt Not Kill.)

The Roman Catholic Catechism reads: "You shall not kill". This being the case I would not refer to that Religious admonition to make my opinon, for it would do no wise to attend to the logic afforded my posting by alluding to that which has been exampled in contrariness to that Commandment, by the bloody history that attends the Roman Catholic History.
The Crusades, Inquisition and Hussite Wars, but just three examples of the Church of Rome not only advocating killing/murder, but sponsoring the commission for aquisition to expand the domain of the faith. Todays Church is in no wise pasive in it's command of the faithful under it's charge nor it's intent to remain in power and far reaching.

Furthermore, a history recorded by rended flesh and blood in the name of the Roman Catholic Faith shall never be obscured by the paneling of General Council of the Roman Catholic Church in their attentions to the Councils Agendas to accommodate the faith by augmenting it's tenets unto keeping abreast of contemporary societies socio-political evolution, since the inception of the Councils with that of what was the template for those of the future; Nicea 1, in 325. (link)

Furthermore, given this history of applying that which is tantamount to an edit to the inspired word of god, it is hubris to contend the Roman Catholic Church does not condone killing in any respect as if that is the canonical absolute. Given the omission of the 2nd Commandment and the prohibition of Idols.



Therefore an admonition against my personal observations on this issue, including those religious references contained therein, are relevant in the context to which they were applied; as not in relation to the Catholic ecclesiastical ideology.




Why did you quote my post then? Leave me out of your argument. rolleyes.gif
Imaginary Friend
QUOTE(chunga @ Feb 23 2006, 11:53 PM) [snapback]1076011[/snapback]

Why did you quote my post then? Leave me out of your argument. rolleyes.gif



laugh.gif Thank you for quoting my entire reply just to say those few simple words. And in the process, ask why I quote you in that short bit before hand!? rofl.gif

I quoted your post because you replied to me personally. It's done to afford the reply it's proper context. Furthermore, I did not invite you to reply to me. And if you are want to make baseless claims and accusations and not accept the responsibility for that, you are indeed wise to withdraw from further conversation with me. I do appreciate your consideration. original.gif
aquatus1
It is a difficult topic to say the least. In some states, a nineteen year old having sex with an eighteen year old would be ca sex molestor. A few states over, a thirty year old can legally have sex with a twelve year old. If a person is on the child molestation list, they are not automatically baby rapists, nor do they make a habit of snatching little children off the street nor sneaking into peoples homes at night. That nineteen year old can marry the eighteen year old a few weeks later on her birthday and the charge of child molestation will still remain.

It's hard to not see the argument of this list being double-jeopardy when you have people encouraging vigilantism and death by torture with only the label of sex molestor to justify their actions.
Megalomania
Yeah..... this could be putting some people at risk....

Anyone seen 4400, where all of the mutant's addresses were posted up?
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(distortedpandy @ Feb 22 2006, 06:04 PM) [snapback]1073647[/snapback]

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well isn't this peachy...

and I'm sorry...if someone hurt my child...they would die a very long and painful death by my hand...

Absolutely...and I wouldn't think twice either


In fact if I saw some clown messing with a child I would hurt him so bad
Imaginary Friend
QUOTE(aquatus1 @ Feb 24 2006, 02:37 AM) [snapback]1076223[/snapback]



It's hard to not see the argument of this list being double-jeopardy when you have people encouraging vigilantism and death by torture with only the label of sex molestor to justify their actions.


It is not hard at all to realize this list in no way imparts relation to "Double Jeopardy."


double jeopardy

n. placing someone on trial a second time for an offense for which he/she has been previously acquitted, even when new incriminating evidence has been unearthed. This is specifically prohibited by the Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which states: "…nor shall any person be subject for the same offence [sic] to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb…" However, in rare instances a person may be tried for a different crime based on some of the same facts which were used to try him/her when he/she was acquitted. A prime example is the use of the Federal Civil Rights Act to charge a person with violation of another's civil rights by killing him, after a state murder case had resulted in an acquittal, as happened in the 1994 trials for the deaths of civil rights activists and freedom riders Andrew Goldman, Michael Schwerner, James Chaney and Viola Liuzzo, that occurred thirty years earlier.


Imaginary Friend
QUOTE(Beckys_Mom @ Feb 24 2006, 11:00 AM) [snapback]1076693[/snapback]

Absolutely...and I wouldn't think twice either
In fact if I saw some clown messing with a child I would hurt him so bad


There is a wisdom that says: if you do not wish to suffer the fate of prosecution, for exacting justice on a baby rapist (relative to this issue), make sure there is no evidence with a pulse of a chance to provide that evidence to indict you!
Simply said, if you're going to step to the task, finish it!
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