From what I've read, everything tells me that Greys are incapable of showing emotion. While they seem primarily focused on their technology and the advancement of their species, are they completely incapable of feeling love, compassion, happiness, etc?

When they experiment on their abductees, do they have any understanding of love between human beings?

I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.

if aliens exist, and in the context you've laid out, then im under the impression that yes, they do have emotions. however, their emotions may not be equatable to human emotions exactly. they may even have emotions that we dont have, and vice versa. i dont think their emotions are as powerful on their higher reasoning skills as ours is, as well. in fact this is more likely the case. for instance, the effects of an emotion on our minds take higher precendant on our reasoning as opposed to the other worldy people. from what i've read about.

but im inclined to believe, under these conditions, that they do have emotions , and are capable of "love". i would also assume that it depends on the relationship between them, and the perciever. for instance, an analogy comparable maybe, is , does your doctor really care about what happens to you? or is he/she just doing his/her job? we can infer this information from communication and by body language , etc, however, we do not know for fact if the doctor does care. however, if aliens do have telepathy, (in this context) then you would know immediately what he/she feels via sharing on such a level. so you would feel like he/she doesnt care , because just like your doctor, they may be just doing their job, and quite honestly he/she really doesnt care. but others of the species may care. indeed some abductees may very well in time prove capable of even assisting , which is of course very favorable which then leads the causality of emotions to be positive , not negative and indifferent, in response. as it would be if one resisted becoming a group member, and sharing.

in conclusion, i would say yes they experience emotions, from the "good" to the "bad", however they are more subdued than ours, to a considerable degree, but none the less still exists. for instance, when they undergo procedures of procreation it is their process of creation. their process of making more of them. when they attempt this process on humans, humans object based on moral grounds that they have learned from their cultures. i dont know whos right, but the attempt's have been made, as from the literature, by them, to incorporate our method of sexual intercourse, and it failed. due to the complex mating structure of our species. we dont share very readily, even our thoughts. a species trait i fear.

or so it appears to me from the available literature on the subject.


whos knows...????

Av19fla,

I've never met a "grey" that I know of - but from what I've read out there - they either are with out "souls" or so far advanced beyond us, they don't have feelings of sadness, happiness, etc. I imagine though they feel "physical" pain, but not the pain of a broken heart etc.

I found one site that gives descriptions "Alien Types" - there are SEVERAL variations of "greys" here. After reading some of their descriptions on this site, I really doubt they are capable of emotional feelings. However, I have no idea how "precise or correct" this site is - I imagine they gathered the data somehow based on what others have encountered.

http://ufocasebook.com/alientypes.html

no comment. To scared to answer that.

thats the most terrible thing ive read in the literature. that the "aliens" (if thats what they are) lack a soul......an undefinable,non-linear, non-differentiable w/rspt to ones life itself, non-continuous gap in our logical element of our own imagination. how terribly elitest of some people...and unproductive....i wonder if those same people believe animals encase a soul? .... i wonder... perhaps animals too are "souless" , but if so, then that means we are as well, being we are animals.....the whole issue is circular and illogical, and in my opinion, quite horrific. filling in the gaps of the uknowns of our own understanding of existence itself with unknowns formulated with imagination sandwiched between two truths....

or maybe im wrong lol but it still seems terrible to say that another living being is "souless".

[quote name='McKenna' date='Feb 17 2006, 11:31 PM' post='1066808']
no comment. To scared to answer that.


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why are you scared?

I think I might have left out one aspect of my thought process on this.

I have heard countless similar theories stating that the Greys are fascinated by humanity and hope to form some hybrid species that will be an improvement over both races. Well, what aspects of the known Greys could be improved upon?

Technology? No.
Communication? No.
Intelligence? No.

Emotional state and the arts? Maybe.

Physical Strength Yes
Physical Beauty Yes
The fact that each and every one of us has a separate and distinct appearance. Which helps us to identify with ourselves and not look exactly like the guys standing right next to us (I write this as I look into my fish tank). Not to mention emotion (point of conversation string).

From what I've read and from what I understand, they do not seem to be able to show emotions that are recognisable to us. They seem to express something akin to anger, anxiety and something similar to empathy, how ever, they often seem blinded to our own emotions, and I think, this is just my opinion mind you, but I think we are; no pun intended here, our emotions are alien to them, and they have little to no understanding about our emotions. But that's just my idea, I'm not even sure if it's correct.

IMHO

Regarding who I assume are Greys, anyone who says they are a bunch of cold s.o.b.s, would be incorrect. They would appear to be elusive, yes. But, we have no models for telepathic, and possibly nomadic, wandering groups.

From what I believe I have witnessed, they are able to reach out. But, they have their lives to lead, and open contact with us would be a major undertaking. We do not know what the results would be, except for what history teaches us.

Khan, Caesar, Cortez, Trans-Continental Railroad. And now add to that 'C', or even 'Q'.

The implications would be vast. But, I think we are ready. There are always trade offs.

If constructed habitats are in orbit around other stars like our own, would we ever locate them? If habitats are cruising the galactic plane (with shields up, by god), I doubt we would ever know.

Philip Corso,author of The Day After Roswell,claims the alien bodies he saw were robots.

That's kind of a cool theory. It would explain their DULL personalities. Aren't they supposed to be property of those reptile dudes? Hey, do those reptiles have emotions?

They probably have to have emotions. For instant, if a female alien was to have a baby, I don't think she would coldly stare at the baby. She would have to feel some sort of love or attachment to it. But we just dont know, because every species has different forms of emotions. For example have you ever seen a roach laugh or a bird cry?

I thought that too.. When I read some of the things about that they do not have souls, I was surprised! Just HOW do they know Aliens do not have souls? For that matter HOW do WE absolutely know that "we have souls"?

Heck there is so much BS out there.. another site I read, said they "take our souls (I think as in saving our soles? )" and I believe it was Lear that said if we drown in water they can't find us and are unable to get our soul. I can not recall if it was a good thing or a bad thing about Aliens wanting to obtain our soles.

On the other hand, in certain religions, they are so certain that animals do not go to heaven. For instance your favorite dog passes away. The dog does NOT get to go to heaven. Only humans get to go to heaven. HOW are they so sure the dog does NOT have a soul and does NOT get to go to heaven?

I personally think that's "hog wash" and when I die, and hopefully go to the "other side", that I will also be greeted not only by dear family and friends that have passed over but also my dog, Atisha.

Carl Butters Yesterday, 10:17 PM Post #6


[quote name='McKenna' date='Feb 17 2006, 11:31 PM' post='1066808']
no comment. To scared to answer that.


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why are you scared?

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Have you read the story about Dulce. Well that's why.

greys have no feelings reptillians have no feelings. they behave in a hive mentality their goal is to conquer

I smiled when I read this..

But how do WE really know 100%, that they "ALL" are like this? That is to "generalize" that ALL Greys are like this. Like ALL of Hitlers Army were BAD people. Or like, a scorned woman will "generalize" ALL men saying "everytime a man wiggles his lips, it's a lie" Or like because the President of Iran has recently said such outrageous things that have shocked the world, that does not mean ALL of Iran's people are just as bad.

Also, for instance, if "greys" look at us like we are just a "herd of cattle" or "lab rats". I for one, would have feelings for a "herd of cattle". Like if I saw a cow caught up in a barbed wire fence, I would want to help it as I care for the animals well being even if it were not from my herd of cattle.

But then again, I've read that greys "think" and "do" as ONE.. like they have no "individuality" and / or they are basically following orders.

However, if they are able to "communicate" with us as I've read, they must be aware of our "emotional feelings" and possibly are trying to understand them? I've also read that they are amazed or rather perplexed at how we will sacrifice our own lives to save another. Like when a man sees a lady he has never met on a street downtown. He sees a bus heading right for her. He jumps in and pushes her out of the way. He saves her life, but he dies himself. (true story that happened here in Portland, Oregon many years ago - it happened in front of the dept. store I worked at)

Heck, if it is TRUE that there are "different" various TYPES of Greys, I am not so sure that I would lump them all in the same category.

Don't we have to prove they physically exist before we question their mentality?

Out of the mouths of Skeptics..

True and good point though.

However, I can't believe that of the 1,000's of "reported" abductions are ALL false. Just like the thousands of UFO reports. Not to mention, there are probably thousands of abductions or UFO's seen that are NEVER reported.

Even if only 1% of ALL cases were true - that's good enough for me.

Well it would be stupid of me to try and pass over all reports and accounts as false but even so there are alot of people out there just to make a fast buck

nobody makes money off ufology thats a myth.. sell a few books whoopee

Yeah, you have to have a good rep to make a "fast buck," if you can't convince the publisher, well then to hell with the general public.

what is a grey?

I personally believe the extraterrestrials intentions have been somewhat misinterpreted. Most abductees base their belief on the appearence and procedures of the extraterrestrials which is an unfair way of judgement. Since they look very ugly people assume they are hostile and ones that look like us make abductees feel more comfortable simply because they have a more familiar appearance. No one would really know for sure what their intentions are at this point in time. How can you judge an unfamiliar being as being emotionless? These are simply opinions based on their appearance and procedures, this doesn't necessarily mean it is so. We do crazy experiments on lab animals and maybe to them we seem like very horrifying ugly hostile creatures. They could be hostile, and they might not, we just don't know that for a fact just yet.




-- John Maynard: "For the record, I am a staunch believer that Disclosure is the only route to full and unbridled assistance from our ET neighbors, and in some cases friends. Are there good and bad ETs? If you are of the impression that there is only one kind, "Good", then you are or have been grossly misled. However, that does not mean that even those that are "not so good", would be harmful to the likes of us. The fact of the matter is that all ETs are strictly governed by a set of galactic rules and they have policed themselves to a point that we really have no worry."

Yes, good point. But it is hard for me as a "scientist" (no, not a pro), to believe something like this without the proper evidence. If there are people out there who have actually encountered aliens, thats great (in some cases), but that only proves existance to them, not me. My skeptical side isn't letting cross the boundary...


Like a great man once said (me): "It only takes one case"

We probobly appear like this to animals we test our shampoo on. Poor rabbits.

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ok, ive heard both for the greys. ive heard they dont have or experience any emotions, and ive also heard they do. theyre just almost desencitised to it in a way that it cant bother them. like they wont feel heart broken for example. but i dunno for sure.

The grey is a frontman for the reptile the greys are cute and fuzzy they tell tales of saving the planet etc . then the reptillians show up and eat you.

I was wondering if you think that their method of reproduction will influence their emotional state. If they really do reproduce by some method of cloning, wouldn't their emotional state lack diversity?

With human reproduction there is some form of genetic drift between offspring making us all unique. The way individual humans interact with one another reveals a wide emotional spectrum.

I imagine in a Grey society where nothing is kept to oneself (not even thoughts apparently), things would be much different.

What do you think of this?

Could be. There's a lot of speculation on this. I was just on another string and it was suggested that the Greys could just be slaves. Certainly that might take the fun and emotion out of life. Imagine if you were a slave AND you couldn't have sex! That'd be an extreme bummer. I wonder if they have a high suicide rate?

Here is something I found interesting describing the intentions of the Grey's: http://www.burlingtonnews.net/greysagenda.html

It discusses the Grey's agenda and why they are here. It also discusses why other benevolent races are allowing the Grey's to experiment on humans. However, it is very questionable material and highly debatable. I am not sure if I believe this explanation personally but it does get you thinking. Nevertheless, it is a good read whether fact or fiction.