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billystevo
These two world leaders describe themselves to the public as Christians. Are they kidding, they have killed more innocent people in their time as leaders than can be justified.
Looks like when you want to control your population , you say your a Christian and the mass follows.
Pretending to love God and make us think that they believe ,is a sin in my book.
Beckys_Mom
They are christians but because they have done all what you have claimed to them their beliefs dont come into it and why is this an issue?
billystevo
Perhaps , you should not kill , might be appropriate, do these world leaders who kill have an exemtpion from God or are they pretending to be Religious people to make us accept their policies.
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(billystevo @ Feb 19 2006, 03:13 AM) [snapback]1068094[/snapback]

Perhaps , you should not kill , might be appropriate, do these world leaders who kill have an exemtpion from God or are they pretending to be Religious people to make us accept their policies.

They believe they are fighting for their country
Paranoid Android
Politics and religion don't mix (well, they do, and Blair and Bush are the result). Honestly, do you think they'd be doing anything differently if they claimed to be Hindu's, Buddhists, Atheists, Deists???? What they do, they do for the benefit of their country, and that's all. Why let a silly little thing like religion get in the way.... or better yet, use it as a marketing strategy to get the people in line with what they say.

Just my thoughts on the matter.....

Regards, PA
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(Paranoid Android @ Feb 19 2006, 08:21 AM) [snapback]1068488[/snapback]

Politics and religion don't mix (well, they do, and Blair and Bush are the result). Honestly, do you think they'd be doing anything differently if they claimed to be Hindu's, Buddhists, Atheists, Deists???? What they do, they do for the benefit of their country, and that's all. Why let a silly little thing like religion get in the way.... or better yet, use it as a marketing strategy to get the people in line with what they say.

Just my thoughts on the matter.....

Regards, PA

Tell that to the folks in N.Ireland...dont let a silly little thing like religion get in the way

I am surprised you call religion a silly little thing
ramster83
I have absolutely no respect for Bush nor Blair...Not from a religious point of view- or a political point of view. Bush is anything but Christian- more anti-christ in his actions to be honest. There's always the bad apples that spoil the entire bunch. no.gif
AztecInca
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Pretending to love God and make us think that they believe ,is a sin in my book.


So because you dont agree with their actions and policies you are resorting to claiming they only say they are christians to gain votes and power.
Paranoid Android
^^Actions speak louder than words. Christianity teaches Love your neighbour. Bush and Blair bring destruction. Their actions do not reflect their supposed Faith. The Crusades are a similar story, as is Theodosius, Jim Jones, David Koresh, Hitler. Evil men doing things in the name of a Faith that should be about Love and peace. Though i don't think I can classify Bush and Blair on the same level as the others, the point is still much the same.

You show me your Faith by what you say. I'll show you my Faith by what I do. By their fruit will they be known.

They might even think they are Christian. But their actions tell a different story.

In my opinion of course.

Regards, PA
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(Paranoid Android @ Feb 19 2006, 10:07 AM) [snapback]1068541[/snapback]

^^Actions speak louder than words. Christianity teaches Love your neighbour. Bush and Blair bring destruction. Their actions do not reflect their supposed Faith. The Crusades are a similar story, as is Theodosius, Jim Jones, David Koresh, Hitler. Evil men doing things in the name of a Faith that should be about Love and peace. Though i don't think I can classify Bush and Blair on the same level as the others, the point is still much the same.

You show me your Faith by what you say. I'll show you my Faith by what I do. By their fruit will they be known.

They might even think they are Christian. But their actions tell a different story.

In my opinion of course.

Regards, PA

Explain your views on love thy neighbor PA? And no I aint talking about your next door neighbor rolleyes.gif
GIDEON MAGE
bush and blair are just as xian as koresh,manson, jim jones, theodosius, and hitler. they continue the tradition well.
ramster83
QUOTE(GIDEON MAGE @ Feb 20 2006, 12:02 PM) [snapback]1069360[/snapback]

bush and blair are just as xian as koresh,manson, jim jones, theodosius, and hitler. they continue the tradition well.


Yeah i agree- I dont like them at all...Funny thing is they keep winning votes- it makes no sense. no.gif
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(ramster83 @ Feb 20 2006, 07:59 AM) [snapback]1069733[/snapback]

Yeah i agree- I dont like them at all...Funny thing is they keep winning votes- it makes no sense. no.gif

Bush's winning votes where a shock....others tend to question them...a lot will say they where fixed
billystevo
I dont think they have a Religious bone in their bodies , they are Devils who impersonate someone who loves God and pretend they do his work.My God sees killing others as bad, he wants people on Earth to help each other not make lives a misery. If the money was spent on peace and not war, the Planet would be better off.
Helping someone who has had a bad time is more enjoyable than blasting them with guns.
Imaginary Friend
QUOTE(billystevo @ Feb 19 2006, 02:20 AM) [snapback]1068004[/snapback]

These two world leaders describe themselves to the public as Christians. Are they kidding, they have killed more innocent people in their time as leaders than can be justified.
Looks like when you want to control your population , you say your a Christian and the mass follows.
Pretending to love God and make us think that they believe ,is a sin in my book.


There have been many a bloody tome of history wrought in the name of the God and Christianity! The Inquisition and Crusades to name but two. And it is easy to assume the mantel of the Christ while secretly posturing as a demon. For in this Nation that was allegedly founded on Christian tenets, posing in that guise gains the trust of the people one seeks to command, whether or not one is actually sincere in holding to the faith. Think; wolf in sheep's clothing here.

"Christian" is a term that alludes to the posture of one that is "Christ like". Therefore I believe that GWjr. is not a Christian, but rather the Anti-Christ of legend. For he is but a poser to the faith he claims, while committing to genocide of his people, thereby exampling in those acts alone the abdication of the Liberties and Freedoms those founding tenets ascribed to this land over 200 years ago. George is no Christian! For if he were he would not have been the Governor he was, nor the President we are damned to endure for 2 more years at the peril of us all. If he were he would not have committed these evils for the sake of his corrupt vision of the America he seeks to manifest, because he would realize that for his sins, for which he is not repentant (Indeed GW has never admitted he was wrong in anything he has done during his term as Governor of Texas , nor as President of the U.S.), that he is destined to burn in the hell of his faith.

If it were only true I would personally make the trip to stoke the fires to welcome him home right where deserves to be in the end, after he has quite literally sought the demise of America! If one were not to believe in demons before 2000 they have but to look to DC and witness that which has commanded this country right straight to the pits of hell for 6 years and counting! no.gif

Goddess, God , Bless America and save us from ourselves!
artymoon
Bush and Blair are the only leaders I can think of who got the b***s to do something. Nobody else seems to get it. The rest will wake up eventually. Its a shame 'some' (and I do mean some) have a problem with reality and what's going on in the world. I'm glad these two are standing up and LEADING. As for them being Christian, that's their business. I voted for Bush not because he's a Christian(I'm not), but because he means what he says and he does what he says. I happen to agree with him, not on everything, but a lot.
Imaginary Friend
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Bush and Blair are the only leaders I can think of who got the b***s to do something.


Really!? Tell me, what has Bush done that "some don't get"!?
artymoon
QUOTE(Imaginary Friend @ Feb 21 2006, 12:19 AM) [snapback]1071442[/snapback]

Really!? Tell me, what has Bush done that "some don't get"!?

See, that's what I mean.
Imaginary Friend
laugh.gif And that is exactly the answer I expected!

Thank you so much for exampling my expectations. original.gif
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