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Paranoid Android
Hey folks. Just thought I'd share with you a story that I was told a few weeks back:

It was a story about a preacher who held an evangelistic event. At this event, two non-Christians attended (a husband/wife couple). At the end of the night, the woman chose to accept Christ and become Christian.

Now, six months later, the man (still a non-believer), met up with that preacher and started complaining to him - "You ruined my marriage. Before that event, life was great. But now my wife's a Christian and it's impossible to live with her anymore".

"Ok", the preacher said. "What exactly is wrong? How is your marriage ruined?"

"Well, my wife, she's all..... nice... now. She cares for others, she takes an interest in their well-being. When I come home from work, she's smiling and asking how my day's been, and taking a genuine interest. She volunteers her time at a soup kitchen downtown. She's sweet and caring now as never before".

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The preacher thought for a time...... "I see," he said. "And what exactly is wrong with that?"

"Well, her actions make me feel guilty. I can't be selfish with her, because she is just not selfish with me. I can't get angry with my work colleague without feeling guilty, because she does not get angry with hers. I can't be mean, even a little bit, even if I want to, because she just NEVER is mean. I just can't stand living like this.

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Now, I don't know if this is a real life story (it probably isn't), but it's an interesting conundrum. How does a non-Christian live with a Christian. And I don't mean a non-practicing Christian, who takes no active interest in their beliefs. I mean one that is serious, who puts into practice Jesus' teachings of Love your Neighbour. Who attends church once a week, and you either do not, or do and are bored out of your mind.

How does this work especially if one of you is a convert after you began your relationship. If you start dating, knowing their beliefs, you know what you're in for and know their quirks. But if they suddenly have this shift in thought, that you weren't expecting - how does it affect you.

In the broader context, this can apply to any Faith or worldview, not just Christianity. How do you deal with radical shifts in priorities and mannerisms?

I look forward to your responses.

Regards, PA
Beckys_Mom
Please note this is not meant to offend anyonedont take it to heart TY

QUOTE(Paranoid Android @ Feb 19 2006, 01:52 PM) [snapback]1068691[/snapback]


Now, six months later, the man (still a non-believer), met up with that preacher and started complaining to him - "You ruined my marriage. Before that event, life was great. But now my wife's a Christian and it's impossible to live with her anymore".

No kidding....I so understand how he felt w00t.gif

QUOTE(Paranoid Android @ Feb 19 2006, 01:52 PM) [snapback]1068691[/snapback]

"Ok", the preacher said. "What exactly is wrong? How is your marriage ruined?"

"Well, my wife, she's all..... nice... now. She cares for others, she takes an interest in their well-being. When I come home from work, she's smiling and asking how my day's been, and taking a genuine interest. She volunteers her time at a soup kitchen downtown. She's sweet and caring now as never before".


LMAO I have yet to meet a christian like that....the above translated = "Well my wife is constantly stuck at her prayer meetings and I now feel she is brainwashed, she has tried to convert me and when I refused she told me I would not see the kingdom of heaven and will so miss the Jesus bus" blink.gif She used to show respect for other peoples beliefs and she never put them down...now she is telling others that if they don't convert even though their faith does accept christ...its still not good enough....once more I knew she lost it when she tried (but failed) to throw my 36" widescrene tv in the dumpster calling it the evil box blink.gif ...she keeps shoving a bible under my nose and the more I throw it away...the darn thing seems to find it's way back to me again..I call it the boomerang book blink.gif

QUOTE(Paranoid Android @ Feb 19 2006, 01:52 PM) [snapback]1068691[/snapback]


"Well, her actions make me feel guilty. I can't be selfish with her, because she is just not selfish with me. I can't get angry with my work colleague without feeling guilty, because she does not get angry with hers. I can't be mean, even a little bit, even if I want to, because she just NEVER is mean. I just can't stand living like this.

Translated = "I can't show my emotions when it comes to anger....if anyone annoys me or hurts me, she thinks I should just accept it and get this turn the other cheek...I aint a door mat but she wants me to be one. She claims never to be mean but when she tells others that if they are not saved the don't go to heaven God will not let them in, she fails to realize that is really mean....again brainwashed" blink.gif

once again the above was not meant to be mean....

QUOTE(Paranoid Android @ Feb 19 2006, 01:52 PM) [snapback]1068691[/snapback]

. How does a non-Christian live with a Christian.

I don't know but I think my dad needs a medal w00t.gif

QUOTE(Paranoid Android @ Feb 19 2006, 01:52 PM) [snapback]1068691[/snapback]

Who attends church once a week,

LOL some attend it 2-3 times a week

QUOTE(Paranoid Android @ Feb 19 2006, 01:52 PM) [snapback]1068691[/snapback]

How does this work especially if one of you is a convert after you began your relationship. If you start dating, knowing their beliefs, you know what you're in for and know their quirks. But if they suddenly have this shift in thought, that you weren't expecting - how does it affect you.

I think by seeing how my dad copes with it all he has come to accept it and live with it but like myself he wont convert...his faith (like my old one) does accept christ but has not taught him to look down at other beliefs and thats good enough for him.
ramster83
Hmmm well putting religion aside for a second- Christian or not- being a great person is very important. Not to sound up myself but im such a nice guy and you know what? I too make people feel guilty...Im the nicest to my friends- i give to charity in front of them (and it makes them give too)...Its very interesting. If you're a great person- even though it doesnt appear so...you become a leader. Thats what Jesus became- a powerful role model to humanity- just by being a nice person.Most important thing is to set a good example to those around you- and the funniest thing is...If you REALLY want to piss off your enemies...become their friends- then eventually they cant help but love ya! My opinion anyways! grin2.gif
GIDEON MAGE
here in florida we have jewish people who "fill in" at xian soup kitchens on sunday so the soup people can go to church.
Beckys_Mom
A lot of religious faiths such as Catholics, Protestants, Jews ect all help out they all play their part for charity...
Tangerine Sheri
QUOTE(ramster83 @ Feb 19 2006, 10:03 AM) [snapback]1068785[/snapback]

Hmmm well putting religion aside for a second- Christian or not- being a great person is very important. Not to sound up myself but im such a nice guy and you know what? I too make people feel guilty...Im the nicest to my friends- i give to charity in front of them (and it makes them give too)...Its very interesting. If you're a great person- even though it doesnt appear so...you become a leader. Thats what Jesus became- a powerful role model to humanity- just by being a nice person.Most important thing is to set a good example to those around you- and the funniest thing is...If you REALLY want to piss off your enemies...become their friends- then eventually they cant help but love ya! My opinion anyways! grin2.gif

Ramster, very interesting strategy , Why would you intend to make someone feel guilty for not giving to a charity, as defined by religon you are a measure of what you give to your church, you don't find that suspect. So you deem yourself a powerful role model becasue you give to your church?????You are kind to your enemies to piss them off( your words Ramster) Ramster jesus's teachings didn't stick if you hadn't noticed , if they would of humanity would be a whole lot different. so in what ways are you a great person Ramster,
Namaste sheri
ramster83
QUOTE(Sheri berri @ Feb 20 2006, 05:42 AM) [snapback]1068922[/snapback]

Ramster, very interesting strategy , Why would you intend to make someone feel guilty for not giving to a charity, as defined by religon you are a measure of what you give to your church, you don't find that suspect. So you deem yourself a powerful role model becasue you give to your church?????You are kind to your enemies to piss them off( your words Ramster) Ramster jesus's teachings didn't stick if you hadn't noticed , if they would of humanity would be a whole lot different. so in what ways are you a great person Ramster,
Namaste sheri


Its not a strategy Sherri because its genuine and its me. I dont "Intend" on making people feel guilty- its almost like an automatic response. I dont give a cent to the church Sherri- i think ive been here long enough to establish i dont care for the church at all. I deem myself a powerful role model to my friends- they often give me comments that "Most people change character with every different person, but you've always been yourself" and when commenting about me to someone else they often say "He's the nicest guy".
I am kind to my enemies and not because i want to piss them off- but because it will piss them off and their reaction to my friendship is their own problem. I work in retail and have had customers try to bring me down, degrade me and more- but i've always dealt with them with a smile and gentle attitude- theyre tone suddenly lowers- they become more relaxed and eventually apologise. Sherri all im saying is that being nice is important and its not about religion at all- but the power of Goodness is extremelly strong and it effects other people. Jesus teachings are still around today- and im not saying hes the only influencial person there ever was- but people that were good became powerful like Martin Luther... Peace out! original.gif
Paranoid Android
QUOTE(Beckys_Mom @ Feb 20 2006, 02:51 AM) [snapback]1068778[/snapback]

Please note this is not meant to offend anyonedont take it to heart TY
No kidding....I so understand how he felt w00t.gif
LMAO I have yet to meet a christian like that....the above translated = "Well my wife is constantly stuck at her prayer meetings and I now feel she is brainwashed, she has tried to convert me and when I refused she told me I would not see the kingdom of heaven and will so miss the Jesus bus" blink.gif She used to show respect for other peoples beliefs and she never put them down...now she is telling others that if they don't convert even though their faith does accept christ...its still not good enough....once more I knew she lost it when she tried (but failed) to throw my 36" widescrene tv in the dumpster calling it the evil box blink.gif ...she keeps shoving a bible under my nose and the more I throw it away...the darn thing seems to find it's way back to me again..I call it the boomerang book blink.gif
Translated = "I can't show my emotions when it comes to anger....if anyone annoys me or hurts me, she thinks I should just accept it and get this turn the other cheek...I aint a door mat but she wants me to be one. She claims never to be mean but when she tells others that if they are not saved the don't go to heaven God will not let them in, she fails to realize that is really mean....again brainwashed" blink.gif

once again the above was not meant to be mean....
I don't know but I think my dad needs a medal w00t.gif
LOL some attend it 2-3 times a week
I think by seeing how my dad copes with it all he has come to accept it and live with it but like myself he wont convert...his faith (like my old one) does accept christ but has not taught him to look down at other beliefs and thats good enough for him.
NO offense taken, BM. But it is attitudes and thoughts like this that lead rise to my belief that Sydney churches are more theologically correct than overseas (America was only the biggest example). Because I have only ever met one person who thought like this (throw the devil box away), and they were members of a (very) small cult.

And I notice you ignored my last sentence - in the broader context, this applies to every Faith/Worldview, not just CHristianity.

Regards, PA
Tangerine Sheri
RAmster do you beleive you are inherently a good person???do you beleive you are naturally kind and loving???? Why would you have enemys aren't you a young man???

What does turn the other cheek mean to you???I didn't know about the church thing I thought I read you are no longer muslim you are now christian, but I wouldn't swear on it.....Absolutely one person does make a difference, and certainly kindness is much more beneficial to humanity.....Namaste Sheri
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