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Reepa
Saw this on a TV programme with Roger Moore narrating, they did an in depth review on the authenticity of the footage and i think that the uniforms, footage quality, etc was said to be authentic. That said though the footage may be of russians faking a crashed UFO to scare the Western Powers as the footage was taken in the cold war period. Personally i think it looks fake.
VALARLIGHT
I'm not sure, i read up it's possible that the UFO broke in half before crashing and the other half went missing, so it isn't actually properly stuck in the ground.
AstroPro
Well, personally the crashed saucer itself looks fake to me especially the way in which it is imbedded into the ground seems somewhat suspect. However, there have been some very good arguments made on this particular incident and it certainly does make you think.

"Outfit - a genuine soldier's and officer's uniform of 1969. The very convincing detail is the absence of the soldier's belt buckles. The metal buckles were introduced in the Soviet Army in the late 60's."

"The truck which is serving as a shooting point for some footage - undoubtedly is a military 1948 (!) model ZIS-151. This truck is the best proof of authenticity of the timing since it is not only fully decommissioned a long time ago but also very hard to find. It is important that this truck can be seen only in the few frames. Two other vehicles - are the real puzzle. They are definitely the clone of WWII Willys MB (first US military Jeep) but have serious variations from the regular US or Soviet made Jeeps."

"Another very interesting thing: Look closely at the first frames when the truck with the soldiers is approaching the scene. There are only tracks on the snow from the previously arrived jeep but not from the truck. There is also no distinctive footprints trail which occured when soldiers approached the officer. It means that the truck and soldiers were arriving for the first time and there were no rehearsals! Staging of of the whole "recovery scene" without rehearsals is impossible. Hoaxers must be extremely sophisticated to create such natural occurrence of the events. They needed to cover tracks and trails with the new snow or exclude truck's and soldier's arrival from other rehearsals for further intentional inclusion it in the "show". All events were depicted on the footage at once and were not just edited later. The position of the shadows from the trees did not changed and thus timing was subsequent with very short intervals."

"The most disturbing evidence is the DEATH CERTIFICATES of Kamyshov, Savitsky, Gordeenko issued in the different regions of Moscow . They died all on the same day March 24, 1969 (as per program one week after procedure)! The death certificates in the USSR were printed by the same printing facilities GOSZNAK which was printing money. It is difficult to forge this document and easy to check with the record books in the three known ZAGS."

" Real event - possible and very likely if death of three researches can be confirmed. What is virtually impossible is that KGB will kill three doctors in 1969 just to cover the hoax and not a real event."


More information can be found here: http://aliensthetruth.com/UFO.php?ID=5
VALARLIGHT
*sigh* there are just to many cover-ups sad.gif and hoaxes, it will be hard to tell whether anything is real or not in the coming days, thanks for the link P-G
Agent. Mulder
ur right, it is hard to tell these days. the pics look kind of authentic though. but they could have been faked. i just wonder why they covered up roswell so well, and these pics somehow got out onto the net without any problems at all.
VALARLIGHT
QUOTE(Agent. Mulder @ Feb 19 2006, 05:08 PM) [snapback]1068837[/snapback]

ur right, it is hard to tell these days. the pics look kind of authentic though. but they could have been faked. i just wonder why they covered up roswell so well, and these pics somehow got out onto the net without any problems at all.


I think some of Roswell was faked, i know the alien autopsys were fakes but they could've been made for the oublic in order to keep them distracted from the real truth, who knows?
Agent. Mulder
yeah thats true. but then wat were they distracting us from?
Tokoyo
The craft seemed almost like styrafoam on initial viewing which makes me wish that I could see the real video (link?). After looking it over it seems at least plausibly legit. I would be curious as to when and how it was leaked, or how news of it spread as this might help indicate whether or not it was a Soviet hoax.
VALARLIGHT
QUOTE(Tokoyo @ Feb 20 2006, 09:51 PM) [snapback]1070681[/snapback]

The craft seemed almost like styrafoam on initial viewing which makes me wish that I could see the real video (link?). After looking it over it seems at least plausibly legit. I would be curious as to when and how it was leaked, or how news of it spread as this might help indicate whether or not it was a Soviet hoax.


Not sure, i tried searching for footage but it only came up with photos. i'm not sure it was soviet related hoax due to the authenticy of some of the vehicles mentioned and the imagination available at the time (sorry, but it looks to modern-thought-up to be a model by some pranking civilian or some military force.

Steve-P
The ship does indeed look very fake to me, but what ive read about the russian uniforms etc makes me go mmmhmm

btw how would I know what a real spaceship looks like, the material they may use may be so diffrent it would appear fake looking metal to us..
TK0001
If that thing crashed into the ground, I'd guess that the earth around it would look a bit like a blast site - dirt should be expended from the point of contact. And a lot of dirt, if that things supposed to be halfway buried into the ground.

The craft looks almost as if it's growing out of the ground, rather than crashed into it....
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