This just a thought. That I have. I'm just wondering if christianity itself could stop the aliens(if there's such thing) from treating us humans like lab rats etc.

Hey McKenna, how's it going?

Have you looked at the string about Jason Martell. If you haven't, you should check it out. He's got some really interesting views in how ET's fit into religion and everything. I think he makes some pretty cool points.

yeah I had a feeling awhile ago. That ETs have something to do with religion. Thanks I'll check it out.

McKenna-

I got through half a page, on one of those pages concerning ancient peoples.

I quit, as soon as I read the phrase "So, you say, "Ok. There were Anunnaki."


That is a trick!

To get the naive to continue down a slippery slope of accepting something at face value.

I was not one to fall off a turnip truck!


Regarding that whole topic on ancient peoples, there is a hype job on genetics and DNA.
They show 'ancient art'. Snakes, etc.

I have seen snakes, and I think they are cool! And they ferment the imagination of
overly religious people. But, not people who understand nature, and animals.
Snakes 'do it', just like birds and bees do it. So what.

More power to reptiles that need to reproduce. But, beyond that, I will never worship them(laughable) or read into those who do!


But, with regard to your question of 'stopping' aliens from misbehaving...
First, there are no misbehaving aliens!
And secondly, who is to say they are not artistic, or comedic, or spiritual, or pragmatic.
We do not know. We need only live to our own full potential.

how does what your saying fit with what i posted.

McKenna,

There are two posts, above, directly pointing to Jason Martell.
He promotes a kind of religion on aliens, by writing from an overly active imagination.

It became a sub-topic, after your main question.

I guess I read in a little too much into your question, and the various responses.

Tally ho.

no, i dont think its possible

i think they have studied us enough to fully know our entire worlds religious beliefs

i also think they may have advanced far enough that they know more about our religions then we do

they may actually know what happens when you die

oh man. if that's true and aliens do exist and their evil. then we're done for.

I prefer lab rats to christians.

well i'd rather die.

Typical to use these threads as a political/religious outcry....

and were talking about aliens/ufos not political/religious issues.

So let's stay on topic. Back to topic.

If christianity can keep you personally safe from aliens isnt that good enough? you cant save everyone

i don't get it?

sorry.

i dont get that one either. but i also dont think that religeon could save us from them. but we also dont know if any of the people who were abducted were christian either. who knows, maybe the aliens are prone to experementing on the christian people.

I think it is a very good bet that they at least know more than we do if they are more advanced.

And how would we know we aren't treating "aliens"" like lab rats as well?
Religion is just an institution. Doesn't necessarily *do* anything, It's the people that take actions. People make decisions, not Christianity.

Yes, I so agree with this.
People "do" things, not their race, sex, or religion.

Who is even to say aliens would have emotions; like sympathy?

Once again I'll suggest anyone who is interested to read The Taking by Dean Koontz. The aliens in the book are not so nice.

What, if anything, is real about the apparitions in Zeitoun, Egypt.
How far is it reasonable to speculate?

Was it swept under history's rug?

What was the talk in the backrooms?
Geologic static electricity in an earthquake zone?
Hightech lightshows- in 1968?

If real, I can accept that. If nothing but a representation, I would consider that
a strange experiment.

Story Of Zeitoun, Northeast of Cairo

Eqyptian Press Accounts

the first pic. reminds me of an angel. The third pic. reminds me of an angel flying down to talk to a huge group of people about something.

Even I know what happens when you die but few people I tell the Story to believe it, however after reading what some of you are writing in the Discussions about ufo's and other things I believe in the future more people may believe the things I have been trying to tell them since the l980's.

Will future Knowledge change Christianity?

I believe things learned in the future will leave the bible and peoples beliefs right where they are and future knowledge will expand our minds so there is room for the Bible and everything in it and it will expland to take in new Knowledge.

I believe that the Bible and our Religious Beliefs are things of Planet Earth and that other Galaxies have their own Beliefs and one day it will all come together and people will explore all of it and form their own opinions just as they do now.
More and more things are being revealed in Stories about coverups on the subjects of Space Aliens and I believe the reason for that is it would have all been to frightening to the average Person who in some cases is having enough trouble dealing with their life on Planet Earth but I believe now its time for more and more of these things to be Revealed to a more accepting world.

please tell me your beliefs and your knowlege about ufos/aliens if that's ok and if you can share them.

I doubt it very seriously. It (Religion) may comfort you in any given situation but as far as any physical "help", probably not.

Maybe after China marches across a dry Euphrates?

I think religion and aliens are closer connected than most people are aware of.

and who's to say we're not already lab rats?

we are already lab rats. did you read about dulce. well there you have it we are already lab rats. and i don't care if its only the crazy people their experimenting on. don't they know that those people just like us are human beings and have feelings just like us and have families that love them. and want to know where they are. obviously not. but they have every right in this whole god damned forsaken world to be as every bit as free as you can possible imagine. just because they have disabilities doesn't mean that they should be treated like lab rats. heck i have a disability does that make me needing to be treated like a lab rat. i think not. It makes me sick that our kind even if they are working for or are the gov. that they would do such a inhuman and evil and cruel thing to their own kind. their own people. thats just plain sad. it makes me mad as hell.grrrrrrrrrr.

This morning I visited this topic for the First time and in the Topic 'Killing Aliens' I posted an Alien story which I believe I should have posted in another thread such as this.
In my post I talk about an Experience I had back in the Eighties when I had a visit by three Space Aliens who appeared to me as Doctors and took Samples from the base of my Brain and Groin and they said they are taking samples to be used in Research.

You might like to go back to that thread and see what I wrote.

At the time I didn't tell anyone around me about that but one day I was at my Sisters home several miles from my home and she said you will never guess what happened to me.

I listened while she told me almost the exact story because she too had had a visit from the Space Aliens who approached her in her home just as they did me and when she and I compared noters we couldn't believe that we had the same Experience.

As you can imagine she and I kept it pretty quiet as far as telling any of our friends but I did send out some notes on it and later the notes I had drawn describing the Aliens appeared in several tabloids but I never personally heard back from anyone on the notes I had sent out.

Later someone appeared and drew a Flying Saucer through me and I still have the pen drawings in my closet which were done through Automatic Writing as the Enity helped me draw the saucer as he wanted it to look.

thats interesting. did you remember your experience or did you have to be hypnotized.

I remembered everything and even now I recall every detail of that experience.

I haven't had an alien experience since then except one night I appeared to be high above the Universe looking down and I heard a strange voice say something about Humans and Animals.

Since that time I have had no further alien Experiences but I have all this time had communication with Spirits in the Spirit World and we do automatic Writing but I don't consider that Alien Experiences that appeared to be something entirely different.

Maybe the bible stories and aliens are connected. Angels are aliens....

Maybe but in my Communication with them I seem to have them seperated into two different Catagories and one of the Reasons I suppose is my Friends and Relatives in the After Life appear and talk to me but even they seemed Surprised when the Alien Doctors appeared and they themselves didn't know what to make of that and tried to tell me not to talk about it because they feared that no one would believe me.

do you know who was saying that to you. the thing about humans and animals.

No and it was a Little Frightening.
It was as though I was listening in on a conversation in a Craft High Above Earth.

you have actually talked to people you know in their after life.interesting. Why do the aliens treat us like lab rats. That bothers me so much. and it makes me very very very angry.



ok I think i need to take a break from being on this forum for awhile. just to have sometime to pipe down. cause i'm really angry about the aliens treating us like lab rats etc. etc. etc.

Yes I talk to Spirits in the after life that I have known all the time, and some I never knew but who appeared to me as Guides after I began channelling for Spirit.

As far as the Space Aliens that appeared to take samples they never asked me and I never gave permission they just walked up to the bed and before I knew it I felt the needle and they said they are taking samples to Study and left and have never revisited me.

well dude. that can only mean one thing. you were abducted by aliens. what did the voices sound like did they sound like somebody holding their nose while talking or did it sound like a robot or was it like the way we talk. do you know what the voices were talking about.

ok now i'm really really really mad. they didn't even get your promission. grrrrrrrrrrrrr.

The Voices that came from the Craft sounded like strange human voices.

when the three Alien Doctors appeared they just seemed to beam their thoughts into my brain like Mental Telepathy.

And by the way when the Spirits talk to me sometimes I can hear their voices but most of the time they talk to me through thought projection.

When I do automatic Writing with them I just begin typing or writing and their thoughts just flow through me.

But at times I can hear their voices and they sound just like they did on Earth.
It all depends on how they are working through me that day.

in what way did they sound like strange human voices.

I posted this article on another thread, but I thought to post it also in McKenna's thread..(I accidently stumbled on to it today)

This article is in PDF and has 12 pages- it is called:

"How to Refuse Alien Abduction"

http://www.thelightside.org/PDFbooklet.pdf

It talks about various things, God, meditation etc.

I am not overly religous, but I do believe there is a God or Higher spirit. I've meditated once in my life (after someone very dear passed away) but I really don't have time for meditation- especially now with 2 year old twin boys, I barely have time to use the bathroom! lol

But the article is interesting and might help some.. I don't know but it couldn't hurt to read.

thanks. i'll give it a read. maybe it will help me overcome my fear of being abducted by aliens.

thanks again

there is probably a .00000000002 percent chance that aliens even practice christianity. even if they did it wouldnt help us at all, just think of all the people who practiced the same religion yet fought wars with each other anyway

i'm still gonna read the article.

I am analyzing how to explain that as I remember the situation and I believe I would describe it much like listening in on a radio transmission between two talking as they said:
"Animals and Humans"
and as they said this I appeared to be high above Earth looking down on a Country Farm.

As I tell you about my experiences of working about 20-years as a Channel for the World Beyond I must explain that I feel these things fall into several different Catagories.

There are the Spirits of the Dead still alive in Spirit Form who speak and work with me each day and there is the apparent Alien Faction that appeared and they seemed to be seperate from the Spirits of the Dead who are now able to channel through me and other Mediums.

When the body of a Human or animal passes away the body dies and the Brain seems to be just an empty vessele that holds the Intelligence of the Human and it goes to the Spirit World with all the Knowledge it had on Earth and Possibly other intelligence that it retains from other lifetimes as the Spirit travels down through Ages through Reincarnation.

These are just observations that I have made through my communications with the World beyond and of course I have no further proof than what I am writing about and what I believe through my Communication with them and what they have told me.