I do not beleive this NWo thingy exists, but.

If this "NWO" does exist, then surely the best way to fight it would with persuing an Islamic Jihad to bring about the restoration of a Persian/Ottoman Empire and create a new Caliphate to oppose their Imperialist actions, much like what Bin Laden has been trying in vain to acheive for the past 20 years.

That will only give them the justification to exterminate Muslims. And then all other countries will have to pick a side and battle to the end. That's the plan. Create the chaos so order can arise.

The NWO does not exist.

What does exist is a a global shift in popular politics over to the radical conservative right, as supported by the original post in this thread. I would posit that returning to an archaic political and social structure is not only unfeasible but would solve nothing if ever achieved. This shift has already occured in the US however with the smudging of state/church divisions, of course this has also occured in the mid east but its less centralized, certainly no Caliphate, not that the muslim world could ever come to consensus on anything (sorry but thats how I feel)

Huntington was right. I happened to have started a thread on this same topic today, search for "Revelation" (no I'm not Christian).

meh their already trying to exterminate as many muslims as possibles and brainwashing the general public against Islam. I say basicaly the general population start burning churches, rioting and demand a change of goverment to a peoples goverment and whilst not adopting Islam as a religion in our countrys, welcome them as brothers and give our full support to their holy by joining it.

Why not?, if this "NWO" is so evil and bad, then surely the most logical step is to take it upon ourselves to smash our current system of society, as appose too just sitting and reading whats more or less 90% lies about them and wait for them to kill our planet.

Yeah Americans dont really do that sort of thing anymore....

Illuminati aka NWO exists and we can see them working hard now.



http://www.savethemales.ca/000546.html

http://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike.htm

I cant say its 100% truth in these links, but there is a lot of truth in total.

then surely everyone should be fighting them by whatever means possible, cuase if you are not doing that, then you dont really beleive they exist, or you dont really care at the end of the day becuase you know its not all its hyped up to be.

Dude, im Muslim and i think the only way to fight anything would be the way it is explained in the Qu'ran - with knowledge!! this is the only way to achieve peace. Problem is, everyone is very ignorant oward this!!

Go ahead, bring it. We'll be waiting.

rocky, you are the epitome of the American stereotype that gives us all a bad name.

Exactly.




under that macho bravado he's a calm,peaceful,intelligent thespian.
(But with two M16s,a cool pair of shades and a round head. )

Forgive me for being patriotic.

Patriotic is one thing arrogance is another.

Partiotc- inspired by love for your country; loyal

Yes i love my country and will defend it to the end.

When you have a religion that is spreading hate towards Americans you damm right I will defend the American way.

so you accept that those who are attacked by western countries within the middle east will defend themselves too, yes?, being obviously the good patriots that they are.

Oh brother. As a way of disclosure, I am an "occultist" plus a lifetime member of the Masonic Lodge, and a member of the Rosicrucian Order, among others.

The problem, with regard to Pike, is that he was about 50-times smarter than the Average Joe today, to the point that our thinking is so limited compared to his. Really. You ought to wade through "Morals and Dogma" to get a glimpse of the depth of his thinking. I also have his "Magnum Opus," or his rewrite of the Scottish Rite degrees. He saw parallels between religions, the esoteric section of religions, to a deep degree that is sorely lacking these days. Even today very few Freemasons read Pike, and even fewer can appreciate his brilliance for what it was.

I do recommend you pick up a copy of "Morals and Dogma" and start reading. It's something like 800 to 1200 pages. And it's pretty turgid reading in places. But it's worthwhile to get a sense of the depth of the man's thinking. And, it's no wonder that fundamentalists have plenty of inflammatory passages at their fingertips to quote from, since he sometimes deliberately put things in a provacative manner ... if only because he was able to think things through in logical detail. But, like some groups today, such as the Temple of Set, pretend to call themselves "satanic" only because such things are socially frowned upon, perhaps it is good that Pike's writings act like a scarecrow to fundamentalists. It keeps stupid people from ever joining groups they'd end up infecting with their stupidity to begin with. That sounds harsh but ... if it wasn't for stupid people infecting religions, there wouldn't be the clash of civilizations we're faced with at the moment!

Today, the West is standing on the shoulders of midgets, intellectually speaking. Pike was a giant. We'd do well to stand on his shoulders, for we'd see very far, as he certainly did.

Cro maat,
Rosencruez