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Beckys_Mom
I have a 103yr old great aunt Mary...who has been religious all her life and last night I dreamt she died and came back to me as a ghost....I asked her in my dream...was there really a God? She said no, but htere was a powerful being but is not known as God...she seemed happy but this did scare me a lil.........not because of what she said about God...but because she died in my dream crying.gif Anyhoo was this some kind of message?

Your thoughts?
ShaunZero
Well, since she's not dead now, I wouldn't think much of it. It's probably just a dream.

I'm going to be real with you. If she's 103, you need to be ready for it. Just think of an afterlife. There is alot of proof of the after life. Maybe reading Victor Zammit may help you feel a bit better. thumbsup.gif

When you're dead, you're not really gone. Just absence from the physical plane.
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(ZeroShadow @ Feb 22 2006, 08:17 AM) [snapback]1073152[/snapback]

Well, since she's not dead now, I wouldn't think much of it. It's probably just a dream.

I'm going to be real with you. If she's 103, you need to be ready for it. Just think of an afterlife. There is alot of proof of the after life. Maybe reading Victor Zammit may help you feel a bit better. thumbsup.gif

When you're dead, you're not really gone. Just absence from the physical plane.


They say a dream of a death isa sign of a birth *shrugs* but i'd like to think she had a good few years left in her yet.....but over these past number of weeks I couldn't help but wonder about God and heaven...maybe this is why I had such a dream....and woke up thinking was this some kind of message? Like in the bible the angel of Gabreil visits Mary in a dream with a message....
ShaunZero
Depends on how real the dream felt and whatnot. Anyone can say any dream ment something. I dreamed that Jason from Friday the 13th was chasing me once, but it hasn't happened yet! [I hope it doesn't... -looks around-]
__Kratos__
Some dreams, I don't think have an underlying meaning just it's the brain spewing out random things to clean it's self like RAM after you shut down a computer...releases infomation.

Perhaps you were thinking about some things before you slept and that's might what have caused it. Dream suggestion isn't anything new. original.gif

And on that note, time for some dreams to come into Kratos' head about now... tis late. tongue.gif
Beckys_Mom
Thing is I wasnt thinking of her at all...hmmm strange huh?
Paranoid Android
I believe dreams sometimes have meanings, sometimes ones we don't even realise. Then again, some dreams are just that - dreams. Who am I to say what is what? I tend to think that if there's nothing I can do about it, then don't worry about it. Whatever happens, happens. I certainly hope for your sake BM that it's not a portent of imminence. Yet like has been said, at 103, she's getting close to the end.

The subconscious is a funny thing. it manifests itself in the strangest ways. Maybe the point of your dream is not that your grandmother died, but what she told you. Maybe it is the point though. Maybe there's no point. Am I making sense?

On a similar note, 3 nights ago, I had a dream about a good friend of our family dying. He didn't come back from the dead or anything (that I remember at least). He died, and his wife was left alone. His wife has a degenerative form of Alzhimers, called Picts disease, and she can't look after herself at all, so naturally with him gone, she just sat there in her chair and starved to death crying.gif

Not a happy dream at all. I'm hoping this dream isn't a portent (I checked the next day, and he's still fine), but on the other side of things, I'm not fretting over it. We talk pretty much every day, so if a day or two goes by without getting a phone call, I'm pretty sure something's going to be wrong.

Anyhow, I hope this helps, BM thumbsup.gif

Regards, PA
ShaunZero
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I tend to think that if there's nothing I can do about it, then don't worry about it. Whatever happens, happens.


My dad always says the EXACT same thing.

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His wife has a degenerative form of Alzhimers, called Picts disease


My grandfather has that.
Paranoid Android
QUOTE(ZeroShadow @ Feb 22 2006, 08:46 PM) [snapback]1073236[/snapback]

My dad always says the EXACT same thing.
Your Dad sounds like an intelligent man then.

QUOTE(ZeroShadow @ Feb 22 2006, 08:46 PM) [snapback]1073236[/snapback]

My grandfather has that.
Really. I didn't think anyone would know what picts was. I sympathize with you. I know how difficult it can be to deal with this disease, especially when you've known them so long. They aren't in pain, but still - it's hard seeing them in their state.

I'll be praying for your grandfather, ok thumbsup.gif

Regards, PA
^SolidSnake^
Very interesting dream, but I can't really say anything about it to be certain. It make be the spirit of your aunt coming back before she passes on from some future date to tell you that there isn't a 'god' but another being...or maybe it was just a dream. No one can really know for sure. Anyway either way it is very interesting.
Phyltre
QUOTE(Beckys_Mom @ Feb 22 2006, 03:16 AM) [snapback]1073151[/snapback]

I have a 103yr old great aunt Mary...who has been religious all her life and last night I dreamt she died and came back to me as a ghost....I asked her in my dream...was there really a God? She said no, but htere was a powerful being but is not known as God...she seemed happy but this did scare me a lil.........not because of what she said about God...but because she died in my dream crying.gif Anyhoo was this some kind of message?

Your thoughts?


In my primitive psychological experience, I would say that your discussions here explain that dream. You are looking for answers, and don't know where to find them, so your mind creates supernatural sources for the answers you want. Of course, that's only a possibility.
ShaunZero
QUOTE(Paranoid Android @ Feb 22 2006, 01:13 PM) [snapback]1073354[/snapback]

Your Dad sounds like an intelligent man then.

Really. I didn't think anyone would know what picts was. I sympathize with you. I know how difficult it can be to deal with this disease, especially when you've known them so long. They aren't in pain, but still - it's hard seeing them in their state.

I'll be praying for your grandfather, ok thumbsup.gif

Regards, PA



I appreciate that, man. It's a pretty strange disease. He's forgotten many things, but sometimes he just amazes us when he remembers thing from so long ago in detail just out of the blue. He'll just start talking about things wich happened a very long time ago. But I must admit, we have gotten something good out of the disease, he seems to do silly things =D and has a little more fun. He'll just sit there and curse in french. I know it sounds bad to laugh at but come on! He even laughs.
Paranoid Android
No worries dude. I totally understand. THere's not much you can do about Picts except try and cope with it (laughter often works). There's no cure.

Your Grandfather must be in the (relatively) early stages. THe woman I speak of is in the latter stages, she can't do anything herself, and I do mean anything.

Earlier in her illness, when she could still move quite freely, I remember this one story. We were sitting at home preparing a traditional baked lamb dinner (we hadn't had one of those in years), and we get the lamb out of the freezer to defrost. So Auntie Margaret (she's not really myt auntie, but I grew up with her almost as a second mother, so we call her auntie margaret), the woman with Picts, she puts the lamb, still in it's plastic, onto a tray, and then shoves it in the oven (the oven was off, luckily). It's funny thinking about it, she still had complete control over her actions, but the disease had acted in such a way as that she knew how to cook the lamb, but not that the oven needed turning on, or that the lamb needed to be taken out of its bag. SHe had complete motor function. Hand/eye co-ordination and everything, she'd just simply forgotten half the job, like she never knew it.

But I hear ya, man. It's all good. We're going a little off-topic here, so I'll apologize to BM here, and drop the issue.

Later, zero.

Sorry BM blush.gif

Regards, PA
GIDEON MAGE
QUOTE(Beckys_Mom @ Feb 22 2006, 03:16 AM) [snapback]1073151[/snapback]

I have a 103yr old great aunt Mary...who has been religious all her life and last night I dreamt she died and came back to me as a ghost....I asked her in my dream...was there really a God? She said no, but htere was a powerful being but is not known as God...she seemed happy but this did scare me a lil.........not because of what she said about God...but because she died in my dream crying.gif Anyhoo was this some kind of message?

Your thoughts?

usually dreams about death, whether one's own or that of others, is a way of dealing with depression, which you may not be aware of. Your subconscious mind chose Mary as a symbol of your own self, dealing with fear about the unknown, and fear of death. Perhaps, also, you felt guiltyabout not spending enough time with her. If you haven't spoken in a while, now would be a good time. I am asking for peaceful healing energy to be sent to you and your aunt.
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(GIDEON MAGE @ Feb 22 2006, 03:13 PM) [snapback]1073447[/snapback]

usually dreams about death, whether one's own or that of others, is a way of dealing with depression, which you may not be aware of. Your subconscious mind chose Mary as a symbol of your own self, dealing with fear about the unknown, and fear of death. Perhaps, also, you felt guiltyabout not spending enough time with her. If you haven't spoken in a while, now would be a good time. I am asking for peaceful healing energy to be sent to you and your aunt.

Hmm funny the last time I had spoken to her and went to go see her was a week before christmas she lives far away from me....but yea I do feel guilty and I suppose if you combine that with this forum and me thinking about God is he real after all ect thats probably what created this dream *shrugs*

QUOTE(Phyltre @ Feb 22 2006, 01:39 PM) [snapback]1073365[/snapback]

In my primitive psychological experience, I would say that your discussions here explain that dream. You are looking for answers, and don't know where to find them, so your mind creates supernatural sources for the answers you want. Of course, that's only a possibility.

Yea true...thats all I have been doing looking for answers
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(Paranoid Android @ Feb 22 2006, 09:24 AM) [snapback]1073223[/snapback]

I believe dreams sometimes have meanings, sometimes ones we don't even realise. Then again, some dreams are just that - dreams. Who am I to say what is what? I tend to think that if there's nothing I can do about it, then don't worry about it. Whatever happens, happens. I certainly hope for your sake BM that it's not a portent of imminence. Yet like has been said, at 103, she's getting close to the end.

The subconscious is a funny thing. it manifests itself in the strangest ways. Maybe the point of your dream is not that your grandmother died, but what she told you. Maybe it is the point though. Maybe there's no point. Am I making sense?

On a similar note, 3 nights ago, I had a dream about a good friend of our family dying. He didn't come back from the dead or anything (that I remember at least). He died, and his wife was left alone. His wife has a degenerative form of Alzhimers, called Picts disease, and she can't look after herself at all, so naturally with him gone, she just sat there in her chair and starved to death crying.gif

Not a happy dream at all. I'm hoping this dream isn't a portent (I checked the next day, and he's still fine), but on the other side of things, I'm not fretting over it. We talk pretty much every day, so if a day or two goes by without getting a phone call, I'm pretty sure something's going to be wrong.

Anyhow, I hope this helps, BM thumbsup.gif

Regards, PA

I see what you are saying PA.....but I hope that she isnt close to an end....thing about my great aunt is she is very strong...she can still get about and has all her wits about her....she knows who you are once you walk into the room...and she still never forgets anyones birthday..........she didnt go to the old peoples home untill she was 98!! but people are amazrd how she can still get about and do stuff on her own and can sit and joke laugh like you or I....I am hoping she has at least 4-5 years left in her yet...I pray there is original.gif I recall spending nearly every summer with her up till I was 17yrs old and I used to always visit...she ran her own bakery for years it was fun.

Here is a pic of me with her on her 100th birthday....funny thing was in the UK the queen send you a telegram for your 100th birthday and my great aunt got one and after reading it she looked up all surprised and said............"How does this woman know me...gee I must be known in the 4 corners of the earth" grin2.gif bless her cotton socks
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And here she is with me baby BM back in 1974 she hasnt changed much has she lol?
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