I was wondering about aliens (if they exist) and using my imagination for that. So, in the case that they exist, what do you think about the teory that says that the atomic blast (the first ones for testing, and the ww2 ones) where an "universal calling" that attracted the greys to the planet?

Do you think it was some kind of alert for them, or calling?

I believe this, in some way, and i think about a couple of ideas for support:


.The grays sightings started (in growing numbers) in 1950, just after these atomic explosions started.-

.These blasts where a sing, a scream and a a warning that told them that this civilization had adquired the power to destroy the entire planet and other civilizations/planets.-

. It also provided a new form of almost endless energy for use, transportation, etc.-

. Maybe the greys suffered the consequences of these blast in the past, and they where attracted to the earth for warning, or trying to stop it, or to see our development in this matter, etc.-

. It was some kind of "certificate" "degree" or similiar, that said that our civilization had reached a level of technology worth of study by them.-

What do you think?

Sorry for my english.

Needless to say, as soon as another country on this planet acquires technology that they suddenly become very `interesting` in the eyes of the powers.

No reason why as a planet, aliens would be interested.

For now, we are more bothered about destroying each other than posing a threat to aliens.

Probably quite an amusing reality show for them!

It's possible that nuclear explosions made some aliens take interest in the Earth. There's evidence aliens came here long before there were nuclear explosions though. Look at the UFO in this medieval painting:





Could be a nuclear explosion would be considered small.

No there is no evidence at all of aliens visiting Earth, not now and not hundreds of years ago, none at all, period.
We have gone over these paintings more than once, and every single time it has been pointed out the meaning of the various kinds of symbols shown in them.
If you have any evidence that aliens indeed are here then please present it, but I doubt you got any such evidence so I will not hold my breath while I wait.

Well, the UFOs in medieval artwork are more likely to have other explanations. Take a look here. What modern people would see as a UFO/alien space craft, the artists of this time period would most likely be painting to depict the presence God descending from the heavens. If you look through the linked site you'll see various examples of this type of thing. It's important to remember that these are paintings, not photographs. And, that symbolism is specific to the time in which it was used.

Here's a link to that particular painting of the Madonna and St John. It seems far more likely that this is simply stylized symbolism depicting the announcement to the shepherds as told in the gospel of Luke.

http://aliens.monstrous.com/ufo_sightings.htm

I believe this was placed by a different member.

I do not say I agree or disagree.... I sit on my fence

Your point being what? I said aliens, not UFOs, lots of evidence for UFOs, none for aliens.

Hmmm..... good point.

I am waiting for replacement glasses

Well while you are holding your breath why don't you go to www.dictionary.com and look up the definition for 'evidence',since you obviously don't know what it means. There is a difference between 'evidence' and 'proof',you idiot. For example in the OJ Simpson trial the bloody glove was evidence OJ Simpson kiled his ex-wife. The bloody glove wasn't proof he killed his ex-wife.

So yes,there is evidence all around us of UFOs or aliens visiting earth.

how can you be sure of such a bold statement.

There are constantly nuclear reactions going on in every star of every galaxy, how would these aliens see a nuclear explosion on Earth, especially one so minute? Nuclear weapons today are huge compared to the ones used to end WW2, and even the ones we have now are insignificant.



Every piece of evidence regarding aliens on Earth I have ever seen has had a logical explanation. It's up to you which evidence you believe, but personally I very much doubt aliens have ever been to Earth or are even aware of our existance.



For the paintings, there is proof. For example there is a painting with two figures in the top corners, which people claimed were aliens, however there are writings and other forms of media which clearly show that the two 'aliens' represent the sun and moon.

No, not one single piece of evidence or proof which ever you wanna use for aliens visiting Earth, if you have any then present it to a board of objective scientists and let them examine it, if they agree with you about it being of alien origin then we have the first evidence. Put up, or shut up!

You should look up what the word Unidentified in UFO means, you dont seem to know that.



How I can be sure, simple, there is no evidence, if you have any present it, as I said before, I will not hold my breath while I wait for you to present the evidence.

The insulting will stop immediately or the topic will be locked and members involved given warning.
Throwing insults such as calling each other idiots is against the forum rules and will NOT be tolerated.

Thank you BS.
The evidence does not exist for aliens visiting us, however, it is logical to assume that we are not alone. Life seems to crop up wherever we look. We use SETI to look for intelligent life, but looking for the signature of an artificial atomic reaction is also plausilble. I agree with some statements in this thread as to that being something to look for. They might also be looking not for a nuclear explosion (may be primative by their standards) but for an antimatter or goggleplexic (!comedy) reaction.
I think we need to keep looking, and be aware that we may be being watched.

This is a good thread, and please heed BS's warning. The name-calling must stop. Else the thread and some members will. We are here because we have ideas to discuss. If all you want to do is name-call, then join AOL.

I'm not sure if this threads still on topic at all... but! on the off chance it's not, I'd say nukes may have attracted increased attention, but I don't believe that they would have made their first trips out here because they detected the nukes. It's probably more like a mayor putting more cops on the streets to keep them safe and tame (to the peoples joy and chagrin).

Some people make assumptions, based on total inexperience.

I have seen a ufo up close, and it was not, I repeat, was not terrestrial.

I was invited to D.C., under pretext, and was interviewed by NSA.

I was later visited by agent G., and invited for another meeting. I declined.

Glib does not sell anything, in national defense.

Naysayers are plain wrong. But, that is ok. Not everyone has seen the Navy Seals
make a beachhead, either. No means left to discover, no papertrails left behind.
Origin unknown.



Images-

A.E., shown in one of the best pictures of all time. Taken on that film of choice by those desiring high contrasts- Kodak Tri-X.

And, a picture of UFO taken on Tri-X, 300 mm telephoto, f4. Strobe rate of object was 30 tps. To the witnesses, the object was a steady moving light source in the Texas sky.

As far as our hundreds of above ground nuclear weapons tests conducted in the 1950's/early 1960's, it would be detectable, under ideal conditions using ideal technologies from ideal vantage points.

There is the background noise from the sun to contend with, timing and alignment issues,
for example. If it was all randomly identified by distant astronomers, perhaps, but under the best of conditions.

I would more surmise that locating our local bubble chimney from above the galactic plane is, perhaps, a no-brainer. Find that, find us. Or, simple star surveys. G-class explorations by some very advanced group of beings. We only have a vague idea of other planets, and a complexly defined existance, ourselves. I understand the 'odds makers' who extrapolate to the negative, but respectfully disagree.

We may have already been a known quantity anywhere in recent history, or before.
I can not begin to guess about that. The question is, will we ever openly know of other life in the Universe? And, what is the extent of the Universe, or its associations?

Impressive sir!