Mr.Green
Feb 25 2006, 05:00 PM
One of the best ufo photographs......
Carlos Diaz: "They do live amongst us and they are here since hundreds and thousands of years. They are here, trying to understand why we act the way we do. They have learned many things from us. They even admire us as a species, because they say that we have evolved faster than they did as a civilization. But because of this hurry in our evolution do not really realize the damage we are doing to our planet in order to have more technology." 
More info here:
http://www.ufoevidence.org/photographs/sec...ica/Photo66.htm
Rykster
Feb 25 2006, 05:04 PM
I grant you that it is an interesting photo. But why has it been 13 1/2 years and yet no big deal?
Ausaria
Feb 25 2006, 05:07 PM
Too good to be true.
Mr.Green
Feb 25 2006, 05:09 PM

The documents of the spaceships, that Carlos Diaz sees during the contacts, have been nicely analyzed by the team of reporter Jaime Maussan, from the experts of the University of Mexico City and from the american Jim Dilettoso: all confirm the authenticity of it.
Stellar
Feb 25 2006, 05:13 PM
It is interesting. I really would like to know why its glowing like that.
Not The One
Feb 25 2006, 05:14 PM
Interesting.
The first one look like an orange batman sign.
Last Chance
Feb 25 2006, 05:23 PM
Amazing photos. The last one looks almost see through.
Unlimited
Feb 25 2006, 05:23 PM
wow great pic it looks like its energizing
CryptoRay
Feb 25 2006, 05:27 PM
I had seen a video of a similar UFO,(not sure if its the same one), and a weird looking red laser was coming out the bottom. It looked pretty fake because the laser didn't look right.
Rykster
Feb 25 2006, 05:28 PM
Unfortunately, it's still a UFO photograph, not a UFO.
AstroPro
Feb 25 2006, 05:43 PM
QUOTE(Rykster @ Feb 25 2006, 12:04 PM) [snapback]1078779[/snapback]
I grant you that it is an interesting photo. But why has it been 13 1/2 years and yet no big deal?
Even major UFO sightings, reports, and encounters rarely get much publicity at all. These stories are sometimes restricted, limited, and sometimes totally ignored by major news company's for fear of losing credibility as a highly regarded source of scholarly news etc. as well as intense pressure from the government to keep quite:
http://www.rense.com/general42/coverup.htmhttp://www.wanttoknow.info/emailmediahttp://www.themissingtimes.com/http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/sfjennings1.htmlhttp://www.disclosureproject.org/abcnewsdefrauding.htmhttp://www.unknowncountry.com/journal/?id=177However, in my opinion these photo's don't really prove all that much. They are truly amazing photographs if they are indeed real, however, they could easily be duplicated on a computer or by use of reflections. Regardless of the validity of the photo's though, they are still nevertheless intriguing to ponder about.
Orion437
Feb 25 2006, 05:43 PM
Amazing photo.
Rykster
Feb 25 2006, 05:48 PM
^^^
Intriguing, agreed.
Glad that you have your head on straight!
scipherel
Feb 25 2006, 11:56 PM
Although i believed in the existence of Aliens,
I am not gonna believe this words.
QUOTE
" They have learned many things from us. They even admire us as a species, because they say that we have evolved faster than they did as a civilization. "
Raptor
Feb 26 2006, 12:27 AM
As skeptic as I am about aliens coming to Earth, there was once when I saw something similar to that; it was irregularly shaped, more cylindrical than disc shaped and it was rotating (Or maybe it was at a strange angle, I really can't say for sure), and it suddenly changed from blue to an orange (the same orange as in the pics posted) and dissapeared. It all happened within 5 seconds or so and I didn't have time to actually take notice of what I was seeing, but I would love to know what it is that I saw.
Carajbu
Feb 26 2006, 01:10 AM
QUOTE(Rykster @ Feb 25 2006, 07:28 AM) [snapback]1078819[/snapback]
Unfortunately, it's still a UFO photograph, not a UFO.
UFO means unidentified flying object, and unless you can tell us what it is then it is a UFO.
BornInTheCasket
Feb 26 2006, 01:25 AM
I'd believe it is glowing like that because of their own self-gravitational device. I'm guessing it reacts with our atmosphere like a vaccum tube would. You know how they have those vaccum tubes with the certain gasses in them that make them turn into glowing neon signs? Yeah. I'm just guessing, though. Maybe the gravity shield and some sort of exhaust fumes create the glow.
Raptor
Feb 26 2006, 01:25 AM
QUOTE(Qarrah @ Feb 26 2006, 01:10 AM) [snapback]1079455[/snapback]
UFO means unidentified flying object, and unless you can tell us what it is then it is a UFO.
What he means is it's just a photo, whether it's real or fake we can't tell for sure. However if whatever it is, we actually
caught than we would know for sure.
At least I think that is what he meant.
Carajbu
Feb 26 2006, 01:29 AM
QUOTE(T-Nemesis @ Feb 25 2006, 03:25 PM) [snapback]1079484[/snapback]
What he means is it's just a photo, whether it's real or fake we can't tell for sure. However if whatever it is, we actually
caught than we would know for sure.
At least I think that is what he meant.

Ooh. Yes that would make sense.
Mostar
Feb 26 2006, 01:32 AM
I love what the man wrote.
Fluffybunny
Feb 26 2006, 01:38 AM
QUOTE(Stellar @ Feb 25 2006, 09:13 AM) [snapback]1078794[/snapback]
It is interesting. I really would like to know why its glowing like that.
It is interesting, I have never seen those photos before. I am not sure what to make of them. I'd like to know who has evaluated the photos and the negatives at the university in order to consider them "authentic"...
The bottom photo is difficult to make out, it looks like there is some reflection of the glow on water, but the orange glow at the bottom is an odd shape and doesn't seem right...
It is something worth really looking into...
Glacies
Feb 26 2006, 01:44 AM
That is an impressive photo, though i'd love to see some video or something, because and while this is a bad habit, I had to fight down the feeling of too good to be true...
Raptor
Feb 26 2006, 01:51 AM
Well I suppose at least now we have the clear picture that we're always looking for. Anyone else find it ironic that this picture from 14 years ago is of higher quality than pretty much every single one taken since?
Glacies
Feb 26 2006, 01:52 AM
huh...now that you mention it...there is some irony to appreciate there...
Carl Butters
Feb 26 2006, 02:11 AM
QUOTE(Prophecy Guru @ Feb 25 2006, 11:43 AM) [snapback]1078836[/snapback]
Even major UFO sightings, reports, and encounters rarely get much publicity at all. These stories are sometimes restricted, limited, and sometimes totally ignored by major news company's for fear of losing credibility as a highly regarded source of scholarly news etc. as well as intense pressure from the government to keep quite:
http://www.rense.com/general42/coverup.htmhttp://www.wanttoknow.info/emailmediahttp://www.themissingtimes.com/http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/sfjennings1.htmlhttp://www.disclosureproject.org/abcnewsdefrauding.htmhttp://www.unknowncountry.com/journal/?id=177However, in my opinion these photo's don't really prove all that much. They are truly amazing photographs if they are indeed real, however, they could easily be duplicated on a computer or by use of reflections. Regardless of the validity of the photo's though, they are still nevertheless intriguing to ponder about.
well said, i am in absolute agreement.
Oderint
Feb 26 2006, 09:10 AM
Great photos, fake or not

Love the shot of the "thing" over the mountain.
Immortal Norway
Feb 26 2006, 09:29 AM
Both off these pictures are realy good, but the first one is maybe one off the best photoghraphs of a UFO i`ve ever seen !!!
BTW, the first one looks suspicius too much like a lozenge (I`m pretty shure that that word is spelled wrong) that we have here in Norway named Repsils-Orange (maybe you have it too) and the other looks like the repsils when somone had had it in the moth a little while and then spitted it out. Just a toughth. But still those picture looks realy real.
Fallen
Feb 26 2006, 09:35 AM
QUOTE(T-Nemesis @ Feb 26 2006, 11:27 AM) [snapback]1079404[/snapback]
As skeptic as I am about aliens coming to Earth, there was once when I saw something similar to that; it was irregularly shaped, more cylindrical than disc shaped and it was rotating (Or maybe it was at a strange angle, I really can't say for sure), and it suddenly changed from blue to an orange (the same orange as in the pics posted) and dissapeared. It all happened within 5 seconds or so and I didn't have time to actually take notice of what I was seeing, but I would love to know what it is that I saw.

I do not want to scare u
but i fell i should speak
most people that have reported a sighting say the same thing,seen it and before i realized it disapeared.
Unfortunately there is a missing segment and that is that many remember seeing it and end and in the middle is an abduction,usually revealed under hipnosis nor remembered usually.
Multiple sightings usually tend to happen to abductees.
I hope im wrong.
atomos
Feb 26 2006, 10:20 AM

Why is it glowing.........like a piece of iron so hot that its melting........
Don't really have any other clues
BornInTheCasket
Feb 26 2006, 10:45 AM
There has been several shows on tv about this ufo. A mexican guy claims to have filmed it. Ive seen the footage, it looks to be filmed floating in the dark sky. Sort of shaking. Then a stupid red laser is shot out the bottom at a weird crooked angle. I think there is some sound to it too. I also think someone proved it as a fake, not sure though.
BornInTheCasket
Feb 26 2006, 10:55 AM
Oh, yeah and there were also 4 white legs that might have been "landing gear" even though it didnt look like that and i dont think it was landed. Wierd pics, I wonder why the pics are always close-up.
Mr.Green
Feb 26 2006, 12:01 PM
Have you ever thought how would that craft will look in the day time?
I did photographed someting like that one in the day time but I am not sure if its the same kind of craft,because it was very hard for the eyes in that moment,so I can't remember much....Anyway I manage to take to pictures of the same object with the diferens of 18 seconds between
dunderhead
Feb 26 2006, 01:28 PM
QUOTE(Ausaria @ Feb 25 2006, 05:07 PM) [snapback]1078783[/snapback]
Too good to be true.
Thats what I said when I first saw your photo '
J'..!
Raptor
Feb 26 2006, 05:02 PM
QUOTE(Fallen @ Feb 26 2006, 09:35 AM) [snapback]1079991[/snapback]
I do not want to scare u
but i fell i should speak
most people that have reported a sighting say the same thing,seen it and before i realized it disapeared.
Unfortunately there is a missing segment and that is that many remember seeing it and end and in the middle is an abduction,usually revealed under hipnosis nor remembered usually.
Multiple sightings usually tend to happen to abductees.
I hope im wrong.
I'm not too concerned about it, but thanks for the heads up.
magnetar
Feb 27 2006, 02:27 AM
I seems those who saw the videos understand this to be a clever hoax.
Nirwana
Feb 27 2006, 09:07 AM
Vote for Carlos!! great pics btw, probably the best I've ever seen.
rapid7
Feb 27 2006, 11:18 AM
QUOTE(BornInTheCasket @ Feb 26 2006, 10:45 AM) [snapback]1080036[/snapback]
There has been several shows on tv about this ufo. A mexican guy claims to have filmed it. Ive seen the footage, it looks to be filmed floating in the dark sky. Sort of shaking. Then a stupid red laser is shot out the bottom at a weird crooked angle. I think there is some sound to it too. I also think someone proved it as a fake, not sure though.
I saw that too; a pic's one thing but when you see the video, you just think 'dodgey fake'.
Orion437
Feb 27 2006, 12:49 PM
Other pic of the same "contactee"
maselbac
Feb 27 2006, 12:53 PM
im far from being convinced. they just look like boiled sweets that are lamped from behind
Orion437
Feb 27 2006, 01:03 PM
Mmm...never seen these pics before.
If they are real, they are a scandal!


Orion437
Feb 27 2006, 01:16 PM
This last one is very similar
Tavernes, France, 1974. A classic French UFO picture. Photographed by a French medical doctor that remained anonymous on March 23, 1974 in Tavernes in the department in Var, during a major UFO flap over France. Skeptics doubted the picture on the ground that "luminous rays cannot end like this." Of course they do not, normally. But the skeptics simply forgot to consider that these are not luminous rays but light emission by ionized air, for example.
Blazar
Feb 27 2006, 03:25 PM
Rykster
Feb 27 2006, 03:27 PM
^^^
The guy looks like Tommy Chong.
Blazar
Feb 27 2006, 03:53 PM
QUOTE(Rykster @ Feb 27 2006, 03:27 PM) [snapback]1081837[/snapback]
^^^
The guy looks like Tommy Chong.

thats where I know that face! Wheres cheech?
Bogeyman
Feb 27 2006, 06:49 PM
From what i know of these pictures, there are some more of the same set which purport to show ET's looking out of a porthole or window of some sort...i've never seen these ones but i've seen them spoken of...this is part of one of those "best ufo's ever" DVD's...so i suppose you have to buy that to see those particular ones ....although maybe someone's got them and can upload them for us ?....I've also heard that they're a hoax....but hey what UFO pictures arent claimed to be hoaxes ?
magnetar
Feb 27 2006, 08:40 PM
I imagine if something either moves like a prop, or is generated in a film editing department, then that explains things.
Like the british reporter who went on camera to admit his news department's editor took an hour to make that infamous video of a ball of light, flying over a crop circle. They reproduced the whole design and finished product. They did it for fun.
In Mexico, there is the infamous Jamie Maussan, television empressario of ufo lore.
He pushed that NYC ufo, along with who knows what, these last 15 years.
Sell your mother? You bet!
In the States, we have 'professional wrestling'. Sell your body? You bet!
I compare the whole business of what goes on between the Tropics of Cancer and Capricorn to trading in fake pre-columbian artifacts. Psst! Wanna buy a figurine?
I presume some people want fame, money, or both.
When I first saw the pictures, I thought- not enough 'aura', or coronal discharge.
Then, the object looked too evanescent, fragile, or even completely molded.
For all I know, the claims of this originating in the early 1980's may be untrue.
Rather, maybe Jamie Maussan did all this in some studio in the early 1990's, when the story first came to light.
Some people have reported moving 'lights', and that is usually all they can see. No truly sharp outlines or patterns to the interior of those fields. Yes, saucer pictures exist of all kinds, many obvious fabrications. Maybe these could be images of a model, tricked up in the studio.
Diaz did write a book, but the real money is made by commercial TV outfits.
I say ufos exist, when they exist. And the unusual sorts do not occur, frequently.
These images were taken on Super 8 mm film, by my christian fundamentalist sister and her fundamental husband, in the presence of others. Unlike Carlos Diaz, these objects were inaccessible, and outside an airliner. Once, when I put these on the internet, it was only a matter of days before a staff member of UFO Casebook copied them, and claimed he took them, along with the dozens of other fakes he puts out.
There is an arrow in the color set, which is to point to a swirl vortice that they saw.
Agent. Mulder
Feb 27 2006, 09:00 PM
that ufo pic looks like its really starting to heat up or something, as if it was metal pulled out of a fire.
frogfish
Feb 27 2006, 09:05 PM
They are all too good to be true...my bet - a hoax
*EnIgMa*
Feb 27 2006, 09:47 PM
QUOTE(frogfish @ Feb 27 2006, 04:05 PM) [snapback]1082380[/snapback]
They are all too good to be true..
Hahaha...I hear that way too much... What a bad dismissing technique...
"this one is too clear, it must be fake"
*looks at the next pic*
"This one is too blurry, it must be fake"
*looks at the next*
"this one is too plain, it must be fake"
*looks at another one*
"this one is juuuuusssst right... It must be fake"
cryptosporidium137
Feb 28 2006, 02:04 AM
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