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Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(InMyNature @ Mar 3 2006, 02:23 PM) [snapback]1088356[/snapback]

adam and eve are the fisrt eg of sin......it is through them that we learn to do the right thing in our life......wihtout adam and eve we would not understand gods intenton for us
InMyNature

How do you know this? is it because a book tells you? Have you even tried to imagine as to WHY he only created the TWO people and how the heck was it possible for them to live so long (hundreds of years long) when that itself is coblers no one could live past the avarage age of 30 odd .....see you only believe what a book tells you...you have not looked beyond it..........BTW people STILL don't know his intention for us...what makes you think you know? hmm.gif
Tornado
QUOTE(zandore @ Mar 3 2006, 06:07 PM) [snapback]1088614[/snapback]

So are you saying it is OK to punish the child for the sins of the parents? hmm.gif

Erm ... if you're asking me blink.gif then HELL NO!!! It's not okay. And for a guy who's supposedly "perfect", God's(?) idea of punishment is as bent as Boy George.
zandore
QUOTE(Beckys_Mom @ Mar 3 2006, 01:18 PM) [snapback]1088625[/snapback]
.....see you only believe what a book tells you...you have not looked beyond it..........BTW people STILL don't know his intention for us...what makes you think you know? hmm.gif
As I told Zero....."simple minds invent simple explanations". thumbsup.gif
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(zandore @ Mar 3 2006, 06:28 PM) [snapback]1088642[/snapback]

As I told Zero....."simple minds invent simple explanations". thumbsup.gif

Gee it seems to be the easy way out...I mean why try and think beyond it..when all you have to do is totally suck in what a book tells you, and it doesn't matter how ridiculous and far fetched it sounds...go with it blink.gif
zandore
QUOTE(Tornado @ Mar 3 2006, 01:25 PM) [snapback]1088640[/snapback]
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"Do you believe in punishing the child for the sins of the parents?"
Erm ... if you're asking me blink.gif then HELL NO!!! It's not okay. And for a guy who's supposedly "perfect", God's(?) idea of punishment is as bent as Boy George.
I agree with you!


My question to InMyNature still stands "Do you believe in punishing the child for the sins of the parents"?

How do you answer this InMyNature......
Lion of Judah
QUOTE(Beckys_Mom @ Mar 1 2006, 11:13 PM) [snapback]1085949[/snapback]





That doesnt make any sense putting it the other way round (no offence) ......HOW could TWO people live to be several hundred years old, when everyone else only lived to be on avarage to 28-30yrs old?? So what you have said the situation being REVERSED is totally irrelvant...and BTW not everyone reaches 100 or over these days ...when the avarage age is 68-72 blink.gif so again the very idea of Adam & Eve living for several hundred years is a joke ,and just an easy way out to try and explain how we ALL came about...after all the bible didn't state God created more people...if it had stated it...then I would dare say that they would say Adam & Eve really only lived for 30 odd years...The people that wrote this bible couldn't explain and where not smart enough to come up with a more logical explaination wink2.gif




Back in Adams time there was clear cut evidence of people living 900years ,Giants and Fallen Angels just like in Peter Pans Fantasy world. If you look at the knowledge left behind one would have to presume that its no lie .Can you explain how Pyramids ,Pantheons and Giant structures were built?
Imaginary Friend
QUOTE(Lion of Judah @ Feb 26 2006, 01:01 AM) [snapback]1079441[/snapback]

Later we find out that Cain and all of Humanity until today have inhereted their Deformality of knowledge of Good and Bad . linktocaineveandtheserpent



Did you know that there are racists today that claim the "mark" of Cain, that which god gave him as a sign of his sin for killing his brother, is claimed to be black skin?
The Bible can be used to uphold virtually any socio-religious platform because it is a composition of myths throughout the centuries. Myths are intended to relate a metaphorical message in the telling. Like fairy tales with purpose.

So, to claim that Cain and all of humanity have inherited their "deformity" of knowledge of good and bad, is to indict the awareness that is in you so as to consciously consider this topic. And the moral compass you possess is as well.

Therefore, per the passage above, it is in keeping with intellect and consciousness to thank the serpent for prompting Eve to think, and Cain for contributing to our conscience in the process of our actions. thumbsup.gif
Vehement
I will still hold to my belief that the story of Adam and Eve was created to signify that we can fail in life. It created a difference in good and evil. It created fear that if you do not worship God in the way that the religions who use the story want you to, then you are going to hell. In fact, failure is an illusion. Why not instead of calling it failure call it experience. So what happens is you see someone failing to live the way you have been taught, you separate yourself from them saying 'Your going to hell, somebody bring me my sword!!!'.

This story was the beginning of sepration between mankind. Instead of getting down to understand why we all do what we do, we think to separate ourselves from everyone else so that we will not be tainted by a so called evil act. Think about it, why would such a story be necessary other than to create a place that people fear might actually exist, eg. Satan and hell. However it may be, it is almost unfathomable for people who believe in the story to think this way since this kind of talk is 'talk of the devil, off with you!!'. Think of it more as rational talk.

There is only two emotions that exist and everything spawns off of them, love and fear. Fear is the most powerful thing to use in order to control. Love is the ability to realize you yourself is the only one you need to satisfy regarding anything that exists. Why must you please others by living the way they tell you too, is it not because of fear of what they may think of you? Once you realize that after you find eternal love in yourself and find that you are one with God, not seperate from God and everything else, you will find that there is no one else you need to please. Your love will then be much stronger for those closest to you and the rest of the world.
RamboIII
lol are you kidding me? do you guys actually believe in Adam and EVE? i sure hope you do not, its just not possible, nor probable
Tangerine Sheri
Zan the berri Man, i don't hink IMN is gonna answer you grin2.gif Aw well
zandore
QUOTE(Sheri berri @ Mar 15 2006, 02:12 AM) [snapback]1105262[/snapback]

Zan the berri Man, i don't hink IMN is gonna answer you grin2.gif Aw well
Believe me....I was not holding my breath.
Tangerine Sheri
QUOTE(zandore @ Mar 15 2006, 01:02 PM) [snapback]1105914[/snapback]

Believe me....I was not holding my breath.

lol Ha ha grin2.gif
Lion of Judah
I found that Adam was told about the apocalypse by an Angel from God was true he talks of the flood and the end times .Last december I had a dream where I saw Eve she had black curly hair brown eyes olive skin and wore torn cloths I said 'are you Eve' then she started hissing with a long tongue then disapeared and I heard a branch break outside my house but there are no trees near my home.
Imaginary Friend
The first book written by Adam and Eve. (Wait till they discover Liliths chapter/scroll! wink2.gif )
Given they were the first humans created. (where did Cain's wife come from? blink.gif ) , who do we imagine were the scribes for their words?!

I think I'll make a fortune in creative writing. "The scroll of Zeus" , found in a ruin in Lesbos.... wink2.gif
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