do the stars look closer to anyone esle?


for some reason they look alot closer than they normally are i mean they used to be just lights in the sky but now i can make out which ones are further or closer and i can roughly make out 3 dem. instead of 2

ehh probly just me but just thought id ask

You are just looking at stars. You may just be noticing them. Keep looking and they will talk to you. Just listen, and I am not talking about the paranormal. But the stars will talk to you.

Yes, the stars speak with their silence.

"Just wander off by yourself, And look up from time to time, In perfect silence, At the stars..." Walt Whitman

i was just sayin they looked a little closer....dont gotta make fun of me









lol j/k

I'm not sure if they are closer or not, and don't mind rykster...i think he was being serious...i think...maybe...you can never really tell...

Not trying to make fun of you. Really. It's just that many people look at the night sky and never really see it. You are lucky, you are starting to see it.
I have always been aware of dimension in the night sky. Even when looking through a telescope, which technically should not be possible, I have seen Saturn, looking like it was hanging there. I have seen stars that were clearly in front of one another. With one eye, that should not be possible. Perhaps, because I knew what I was looking at and their relative distances, my mind connected the dots. Interestingly enough, although I have a severe red green deficeincy in my eyesight, I see the stars as blue, red, green, orange, white. I don't know why this is, because I can't tell the difference between a street lamp and a green traffic light except by its location.

I think its something to do with the atmophere making them look closer, I might be wrong but I'm sure I read it somewhere.

I believe if there is more moisture in the sky, it can have a sort of lense effect, slightly magnifying objects, such as stars.

Due to the distance of stars, it's basically beyond the human eyes ability to discern distance between them. Because some stars or planets shine brighter than others, the human mind can be fooled to think that brighter, clearer objects are closer, while dimmer, blurry objects are far away, but this is not always the case.

When I was a kid I had this idea that the sky was paper mache with holes punched in it and the light from another dimension shined through the holes. I was convinced at five years old that I had solved the mysteries of the stars.....

That's pretty cool. I used to always think that way about different stuff

i believe theirs some starships cloaking and sitting ...but the rest are just stars.

They haven't moved....well, relative to us. Maybe its just the first time you are noticing the stars. Hey, they are facinating. They hooked me, and haven't lost me yet. Amateur Astronomy is a great thing. I have accomplished so much, yet there is still a whole lot more to do.

Keep looking at the stars...they will never cease to amaze you.

If you look at them in an area with alot of lights, you will barely see them.
In an area where there are no lights the stars are much clearer and seem to be much bigger.

The universe EXPANDS, it doesnt contract...I think you're just crazy
no offense

Light pollution

I'm Going to be a Star *looking in the mirror* *eyes sparkling*

Exactly frogfish.

sprry don't mean to hijack another's thread, but since this topic is about stars, i wanted to share my story instead of posting a whole new thread which i think is pointless........i do believe that stars do move. i mean they are gases of light...and there is such a thing as wind or moving clouds in the universe, i forgot what the term is called. and can't wind move these burning gases we call stars?

i swaer this story is true..one night me and 2 friends went to my local neighborhood playground to just chill and hang out. we went there every night. one time we all were laying on a slide together looking at the stars....and there were 3 stars i was looking at. 2 were close together while the other was sitting lonely in the nightsky. then one of the 2 stars starts moving across the sky to lonely star, no joke!!! it didn't move anymore after that. i looked at both my friends and both had seen it. they chose to ignore what happened that night but i want to know what it was?!?!

what does everyone think of this?

^^^ Burnsides post
At first glance, that seems like a big DUH?
But it reminds me of the first time I took my scope camping, in New Hampshire. Once I got my dark vision and stood there looking up, I almost felt as if I could touch the stars. Living in even a modest city, I had no idea what I was really missing, and I have been an astronomy buff since I was 5 years old. I was walking down an aisle at a newly opened dept store and saw a globe of the Earth. I remember becoming dizzy as the thoughts solidified in my mind, and I truly grasped that I was on a dot, spinning through space, just like all the other dots I could see in the sky.

Galaxies are generally moving away from eachother, stars within a galaxy are not.



A sattelite or something burning in the atmosphere. There isn't a star in the galaxy that is moving fast enough to actually see it moving across the sky like that.

How exactly did that happen O_o. I thought everything would be moving away from eachother at the same speeds because of the big bang.

Galaxies, or rather, the building blocks of galaxies were thrown outwards, and are all moving away from a single point as seen with red shift. If all of the stars within one galaxy were moving away from eachother than some of them would be heading back towards the center of the universe. But they are more or less bound together in groups.
Obviously the stars would be constantly moving in all different directions, but only within the galaxy.



Hopefully that makes sense.

To us, stars don't move...they are waaaaaaaay too far away. You might of seen a satellie or planet. Stars are just not balls of burning gas.

The night sky can look much different away from light polluted areas. I live in a very urban suburb between Detroit and Ann Arbor, it is very hard to see stars. That's why I always take my scope out to a rural area called Salem, as it is much better. No light pollution. It looks much different.

Rykster, what scope do you have? I have a little older Meade model (4 years old), a 10" LXD55 Newtonian Refractor.

What kind of things have you seen? I used to have a telescope but I very rarely got to see anything.

I've seen 62 object on the Messier Catalog...Hercules Cluster, Andromeda, Trifid Nebula, Orion Nebula, Cat's Eye Nebula, Lagoon Nebula, Sombrero Galaxy, Whirpool Galaxy, you name it. I even got to see Comet Hale-Bopp when it was closest to earth...It was beautiful.

I've seen Jupiter's Io, Europa, Ganymede, and Callisto,

And countless other stuff...

Just a lil old 6" newtonian.
Some day, I want better. I saw a 26" for $40,000US, but, not for now!
I have thought of getting one of those Dobsonian monsters, they are cheap, but without an equatorial mount? I dunno.
A six inch will allow you to see many of the Messier objects, is great for looking at the planets, though Pluto is a reach for a six incher. Saturn looks like this jewel, hanging in the field of view, the shadows of its rings below. Jupiter, is astonishing, and the Galilean moons, and their shadows are intoxicating. The Moon is a PIA, it moves so fast, it wears down my tracking battery, but the 3d detail is also hard to look away from.

Wow, that's quite a big list!

I would have loved to see all of those things, maybe I'll get back into it again soon.

They have great s/w now, can just line up the scope, program the obet and BING! There ya go.
When I got my first scope, about 40 years ago, I had to figure out declination and right ascention and usually got too POd to do anything but point at the Moon!

Yes, since they don't have an equatorial mount, that's why I didn't get one. Meade makes MAGELLAN for Dobsonians though...Its almost as good as AutoStar.

Do you have a CCD camera? Those are fun, I got great pictures of the Moon, Saturn, Jupiter, Andromeda, Orion Nebula...But I have been only playing around with it for a couple months.

Meade has 2 new Telescopes, and expensive but great LX200R...Its has superb opitics, and they have some new LightBridge monster trussel Dobsonians.

You should check out their website...I have been thinking of getting a new scope...

www.meade.com

Meade's Ritchey-Chrétien optic scopes are the best you can get. I used one at UofM, it was better than any other scope I've used. They can only be outdone by the MAGELLAN SCOPES down in NM

Yeah, been to their site and others. Tired of drooling for now!

Its sooo tempting

Yeah, I would love someday to have a big a** scope, mount it on a bus and travel the universe. Fill the bus up with computers too!

I want that 16" Ritchey-Chrétien...

This one.

That's the one you want? Or is that one you own?

I own a LXD55, which is very similar to the Schmidt-Newtonian in this.

I want this or this.

I also have this.

It's the one I want, darned thing is forty grand!

lol

What makes it so expensive?

The ones I want max out at 14 grand for 16"
about 5 grand for 10"

They are top-of-the line Meade scopes. The best Meade has made so far.
Any astronomer know's Meade makes probably the best high quality optics out there...