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CryptoRay
Do you think it is possible that many years ago giants existed? Back in the days there were giant animals, so is it also possible that there were giant humans?
"This monstrous figure is reputed to have been dug up by a Mr. Dyer whilst prospecting for iron ore in County Antrim. The principal measurements are: entire length, 12 ft 2 in.; girth of chest, 6 ft 6 in.; and length of arms, 4 ft 6 in. There are six toes on the right foot. The gross weight is 2 tons 15 cwt.; so that it took half a dozen men and a powerful crane to place this article of lost property in position for the Strand magazine artist. "
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Oderint
Alot of various sources say that giants did exist. everything from the bible to ancient mayans (might be wrong about that). So why not? People will say "why hav ewe not found any skeletons?" - but then again mankind havent dug up every inch of the world.
yet


So I vote yes to the possibility of giants!


Edit: Btw nice pic! any info of it being a hoax or not?

http://www.stevequayle.com/Giants/pics/giants.html
CryptoRay
Don't know if it's real or not, but last I heard the giant dissapeared off the face of the Earth, like all other evidence of anything unexplained.
Speakeasy
I'm not sure what the benefit of being a giant human would be. This is important, because evolution would've had to be the reason behind the creation of a giant human and evolution is based off the survival of the fittest.

Human beings are not very effective animals by ourselves. We have no natural armor, claws or effective teeth or anything. We run, swim and climb extremely slow when compared to many other animals. We're also very weak in comparison.

The main success of the human being has been our intelligence. This has allowed us to make weapons, to make armor and to develop a language so that we can communicate, allowing us to effectively group hunt. We are pack animals, not solitary hunters.

How a 'giant' human would fit into this does not make sense. They would be like regular humans, but much slower, require much more resources to survive, and have a harder time finding shelter or hiding. The only advantages I can think of would be strength and a greater ability to intimidate. These advantages alone are hardly enough to believe that evolution would've favored the survival of these giants over regular human beings in any situation or environment.

So, in my opinion, no, besides the odd genetic fluke, giants were never a species of man on this earth.
Doctor Satan
Oh they definately did exist...but not like the kind that you would find in a Jack and the Beanstalk story. Large human beings that are abnormally tall have been around for years and years. Some caused by disease but some just naturally tall. The guy from The Devils Rejects who played Tiny for instance would have been considered a giant compared to normal sized human beings...but as for Fee Fi Fo Fum giant...I imagine bones like that would have been found and definately broadcasted worldwide. You never know though
Immortal Norway
Yeah, it might have been aliens on Earth... What am I saying off course it has been giants on Earth... I mean just think about Goliat, Stoonehenge, The Pyramids (well they were maked by aliens, but still you ounderstand what I mean)
frogfish
Giants only exist in the condition Giantism..an overload of GH production in humans. But other than that, they don't exist. Giants 'fossils' were never found.
Raptor
QUOTE(Norwegian Phoenix @ Feb 28 2006, 08:24 PM) [snapback]1084042[/snapback]

The Pyramids (well they were maked by aliens, but still you ounderstand what I mean)


The Great Pyramids were made by Egyptians, I don't even think there's any reason to believe that they couldn't have.

As for Giants, there hasn't been any true evidence (like actualy skeletons) so I do doubt it, but I have no reason to not believe them.
CryptoRay
Actually there has been giant's fossils found. They once found a giant human leg bone.
frogfish
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Actually there has been giant's fossils found. They once found a giant human leg bone.

Link please?

Hope the 'archaeologist' didn't confuse humans with some mammoth tongue.gif
CryptoRay
QUOTE(frogfish @ Feb 28 2006, 05:31 PM) [snapback]1084285[/snapback]

Link please?

Hope the 'archaeologist' didn't confuse humans with some mammoth tongue.gif

Heres a pretty cool link with lots of giant's fossils and stuff.

link- http://www.s8int.com/giants1.html
frogfish
That's all fundamentalist banter, I hope you know that...

They are comparing modern humans to Goliath the Giant and the King of Og...no.gif
CryptoRay
QUOTE(frogfish @ Feb 28 2006, 05:43 PM) [snapback]1084308[/snapback]

That's all fundamentalist banter, I hope you know that...

They are comparing modern humans to Goliath the Giant and the King of Og...no.gif

Did you check out the fossils on page 2?
Bella-Angelique
I think the Rephaim of the bible were only six foot seven to six foot eight, close to the same as pro basketball players today.

It would appear that in most of Africa, parts of the Middle East, most of Europe, and parts of Asia the giants won out since to most Native Americans, we are the giants still.
frogfish
Again all fundamentalist banter....The jaw was from Gigantopithecus, a giant ape..not human...all the other stuff was propaganda.
CryptoRay
I found these pretty interesting, not sure if they are all real, but it's interesting.

-"A skeleton which is reported to have been of enormous dimensions" was found in a clay coffin, with a sandstone slab containing hieroglyphics, during mound explorations by a Dr Everhart near Zanesville, Ohio.(American Antiquarian,1880)

-In 1911, several red-haired mummies ranging from 6 and a half feet to 8 feet tall were discovered in a cave in Lovelock, Nevada. In February and June of 1931, large skeletons were found in the Humboldt lake bed near Lovelock, Nevada.

- Bathurst, Australia... In fossil in the 1930's deposits found around Bathurst from a depth of 6 feet below the surface a fossil lower back molae tooth was found. The owner would have been at least 25 ft. tall.
Also found were huge stone artifacts -- clubs, pounders, adzes, chisels, knives and hand axes all of tremendous weight, scattered over a wide area weighing from 8 to 25 pounds, implements which only men of tremendous proportions could possibly have made and used. Estimates for the actual size of these men range from 10 to 12 feet tall and over, weighing from 500 to 600 lbs.

-Macleay River Noel Reeves found near Kempsey, N.S.W. monstrous footprints were discovered in sandstone beds on the Upper Macleay River. One print shows toe 4 inches long and the total toe-span is 10 inches suggesting that the owner of the print may have been 17 feet tall.
maselbac
Gigantism or giantism, (from Greek gigas, gigantos "giant") is a condition characterized by excessive height growth. As a medical term, gigantism is rarely used except to refer to the rare condition of pituitary gigantism due to prepubertal growth hormone excess. There is no precise definition of the degree of tallness that qualifies a person to be termed a "giant." The term has been typically applied to those whose height is not just in the upper 1% of the population but several standard deviations above mean for persons of the same sex, age, and ethnic ancestry. Typical adult heights of Americans and Europeans to whom the term might be applied are 210 - 240 cm (7 - 8 feet) though it may be possible for a person to grow up to 270 cm (9 feet) or taller. The term is rarely applied to basketball players and those whose heights appear to be the healthy result of normal genetics and nutrition.

the giant in the picture you posted(if it was real) may have had an extreme form of gigantism.

however, from the info i have read i doubt it would have been healthy in any way.

i suppose its quite possible there would have been bigger "giants" in the earlier years, but evolution and natural selection has curbed gigantism to a certain extent. it seems to be less common these days.
BigfootForever
remember, it was only a few months ago that miniature humans or hobbits were discovered to be a real species, and this skeleton was only 13,000 years old. So if you consider the fact that there were miniature people like hobbits than it is conceivable to believe that some type of giants did exist at one time. But I don't see why a human would need to be a giant if you consider evolution, but anything is possible.
CryptoRay
It is possible that humans could have reached over ten feet in height, remember the tallest man recorded was about 8'11". He was only 22 when he died of heart failure, imagine if he would have lived to be about 100, he would have probably been well over 9'5".
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Doctor Satan
QUOTE(frogfish @ Feb 28 2006, 03:56 PM) [snapback]1084086[/snapback]

Giants only exist in the condition Giantism..an overload of GH production in humans. But other than that, they don't exist. Giants 'fossils' were never found.



Hey...that's what thy say about Bigfoot too!
maselbac
QUOTE(CryptoRay @ Feb 28 2006, 11:24 PM) [snapback]1084348[/snapback]

It is possible that humans could have reached over ten feet in height, remember the tallest man recorded was about 8'11". He was only 22 when he died of heart failure, imagine if he would have lived to be about 100, he would have probably been well over 9'5".
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well considering the average man stops growing around the age of 21-22 i doubt he would have got much bigger. but then he obviously wasnt an average man. he certainly would not have kept on growing until he was 100 sleepy.gif
frogfish
Plus, he had Giantism...He couldn't live longer. Giants have very short lives.
psyche101
QUOTE(CryptoRay @ Mar 1 2006, 09:09 AM) [snapback]1084331[/snapback]

I found these pretty interesting, not sure if they are all real, but it's interesting.

-"A skeleton ..American Antiquarian,1880)

-In 1911, several red-haired mummies .. Lovelock, Nevada.

- Bathurst, Australia... In fossil in the 1930's deposits .. , weighing from 500 to 600 lbs.

-Macleay River Noel Reeves found near Kempsey, N.S.W... total toe-span is 10 inches suggesting that the owner of the print may have been 17 feet tall.



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That's some pretty interesting evidence, any idea if all these finds have been verified? The thread sugegsts this is a one in a million thing, is that what the most possible theory behind these finds are?
I take it the accepted Human "Giant" refrenced here is approximately 9-15 foot tall (that'd be approximately 3 to 5 meters to you and I Rus)

Here's one for you all to have a giggle look at, I'd imagine most of you in this thread have seen this site before, but for those that haven't, make sure you look at it with a massive grain of salt. This Hoax is suspected of being connected to SONY and the new Collossus game. Fun read tho

Giantology

Some good pics of bog people here, got another for ya's ( WARNING not sure at all of it's origin or authenticity)


Hmmrzz interesting. This thread will be good to watch original.gif
psyche101
Man, this is intiguing.

How is this page, these skulls are mad !!

Crazy Skulls

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The skulls are a real problem for the anthropoligist. The frontal part of the skull seems to belong to an individual of the pre-Neanderthal family. But the lower jaw, though more robust than modern human type, has a modern shape and characteristics.


Nice thread CryptoRay. I had only seen the Giantology site, and never really followed up any further after that.


Anyone with a theory on these skulls, or heard more on them?
Rosencruez
Well, they recently found a new species of Hobbits ... or halfling humanoids down near Indonesia ... so ... who knows ...

At any rate, EGREGORS are a different take on the meaning of giants.
The Chupacabra King
The theory for me, is that giants are real. Think for a moment, please...

Over the centuries, people have not always remained, you know 5-6ft tall.
The Average height in Biblical times was about 4-5ft.
Anyone over 5 ft could have appeared to have been a giant.
For instance, when the Bible mentions "giants" , it could have been talking of TREES, not neccessarily animals. As for fossil evidence.....we're talking about people who died thousands of years ago.....the possibilities of finding their skeletons are slim to none. no.gif
Mandaygo
I don't have any time to look at the moment, but there was a group of Giant Skeletons found in Sayre Pa. More specifically Sayre Spanish Hill. They were found in a burial mound. Like with most stories of the unexplained, the skeletons went missing. There were some reports that they had horns, but a newspaper article I read said they were wearing a headdress. Thats all I can remember at the moment, other then that they had red hair.
psyche101
QUOTE(The Chupacabra King @ Mar 1 2006, 11:45 AM) [snapback]1084544[/snapback]

The theory for me, is that giants are real. Think for a moment, please...

Over the centuries, people have not always remained, you know 5-6ft tall.
The Average height in Biblical times was about 4-5ft.
Anyone over 5 ft could have appeared to have been a giant.
For instance, when the Bible mentions "giants" , it could have been talking of TREES, not neccessarily animals. As for fossil evidence.....we're talking about people who died thousands of years ago.....the possibilities of finding their skeletons are slim to none. no.gif



I don't think David swung a slingshot at a tree and killed it.

This thread is showing pictures of fossilised evidence. These "giants' if they existed appear to have been between 8 and 12 feet tall. Not ridiculous like the giant from Jack and the Beanstalk.
The evidence seems sound, looking forward to reading further on this. As pointed out, Homo Florensis was found recently, I am keeping an open mid.
9 - 12 Foot Giants (thats about 3 - 4 meters to you and me Rusty), yeah, I'm gonna stick my head on a block here and say, yeah, quite possible original.gif
Immortal Norway
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The Great Pyramids were made by Egyptians, I don't even think there's any reason to believe that they couldn't have.


Maybe they weren`t made by aliens, but still if it wasn`t them I`m shure it was the giants, I mean how else do you explain how the large stoones the egyptians made the pyramids by was transported a long, long way and then puted up on the other ones ? No normal human could lift those large stoones ! The same with StooneHenge !
Kaknelson
I believe giant humans lived on earth before. Slaved for man after wars with humans, there have been records of fossils of humans found in caves in which the whole family is over 7 ft - 9ft. They were around possibly during building of the egyption creations too large for man to handle.


Giant animals, maybe?
speaker of the house
Giants...Giants still exisist, when you consider the height of the average human has increased slightly over the years to 5ft 8 inches at the moment with an average weight of 140lbs. Isn't Shaquile O'Neal a Giant? Isn't there a guy in the Guiness Book of World Records who was over 9 feet tall? And since giants were exactly everywhere, just the occasional sighting, surely there was also very big people back then too. All of which got a little exageratted over the years.


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and the little guy in the pic is 5ft 6 inches, in case you were wondering.
Jeanne d'Arc
QUOTE(BigfootForever @ Mar 1 2006, 12:14 AM) [snapback]1084342[/snapback]

remember, it was only a few months ago that miniature humans or hobbits were discovered to be a real species, and this skeleton was only 13,000 years old. So if you consider the fact that there were miniature people like hobbits than it is conceivable to believe that some type of giants did exist at one time. But I don't see why a human would need to be a giant if you consider evolution, but anything is possible.


I didn't have the patience to read every single entry to see if someone else asked the question I'm about to ask... but did anyone see that program on National Geographic channel about the family tree of human evolution? They discussed the finding of 'The Hobbit' and another human ancestor I'd not heard of and called him 'goliath'. Which is VERY annoying because I can only find religious propaganda when I google it.

What I want to know is: was 'goliath' the same as gigantopithecus?
Did anyone catch that?
Darsawl
all i see is a giant clay skulpture
where is the giant?
CryptoRay
QUOTE(Norwegian Phoenix @ Mar 1 2006, 06:04 AM) [snapback]1085199[/snapback]

Maybe they weren`t made by aliens, but still if it wasn`t them I`m shure it was the giants, I mean how else do you explain how the large stoones the egyptians made the pyramids by was transported a long, long way and then puted up on the other ones ? No normal human could lift those large stoones ! The same with StooneHenge !

I also believe that the Pyramids were made by something non-human. Each block of stone weights about a ton, and it took over a hundred of those stones to make one pyramid. I heard that the stones were found far away from where the pyramids stand, so how did they get all the heavy stones to the spot and make a huge pyramid in a pharoahs lifetime. People say that they rolled the stones on logs that acted like wheels, but wouldn't the logs get crushed under all that weight? Also how did they get the last stone all the way to the top of the pyramid? Did it fly up there?
Speakeasy
QUOTE(CryptoRay @ Mar 1 2006, 02:18 PM) [snapback]1085596[/snapback]

I also believe that the Pyramids were made by something non-human. Each block of stone weights about a ton, and it took over a hundred of those stones to make one pyramid. I heard that the stones were found far away from where the pyramids stand, so how did they get all the heavy stones to the spot and make a huge pyramid in a pharoahs lifetime. People say that they rolled the stones on logs that acted like wheels, but wouldn't the logs get crushed under all that weight? Also how did they get the last stone all the way to the top of the pyramid? Did it fly up there?


All of these questions can be answered with a little bit of research. Here are a few links that should help you get on the right path. It's very interesting stuff..

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It's always good practice to try and do a little research on something if you have a lot of questions about it. You'll learn a lot more and gain information to use in the future this way, instead of drawing paranormal conclusions that have little basis in fact. Hope I could help a little in your quest for knowledge. original.gif
frogfish
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I also believe that the Pyramids were made by something non-human. Each block of stone weights about a ton, and it took over a hundred of those stones to make one pyramid. I heard that the stones were found far away from where the pyramids stand, so how did they get all the heavy stones to the spot and make a huge pyramid in a pharoahs lifetime. People say that they rolled the stones on logs that acted like wheels, but wouldn't the logs get crushed under all that weight? Also how did they get the last stone all the way to the top of the pyramid? Did it fly up there?

Speakeasy nailed it, both you and Norwegien Pheonix should do some research before making outrageous claims.

The Egyptians used a little something called TECHNOLOGY and ingenuity to built the pyramids. Ever hear od ramps, wedges, trolleys?
Bella-Angelique
There is a carving of Romans building a structure on the structure they built. Read about this a year or two ago. Doctors noticed it first and it was confirmed by scientists that no modern human could sustain that weight of the blocks on their backs as the Romans depicted. It is the only evidence I know of that shows the human race world wide has grown weaker physically, but it is pretty good evidence.
frogfish
Or maybe its just a depiction of the Romans doing work. The Greeks and Romans had a Titan called Apollo (Greek). He did something bad (won't go into details. His eternal punishment was to hold the weight of the world on his back.
Speakeasy
QUOTE(Bella-Angelique @ Mar 1 2006, 02:53 PM) [snapback]1085664[/snapback]

There is a carving of Romans building a structure on the structure they built. Read about this a year or two ago. Doctors noticed it first and it was confirmed by scientists that no modern human could sustain that weight of the blocks on their backs as the Romans depicted. It is the only evidence I know of that shows the human race world wide has grown weaker physically, but it is pretty good evidence.


A running theme in Roman artwork it it's use of extravagance and exaggeration to relay a point to the viewer. It would be a fallacy to consider any of their depictions of Roman life as completely accurate.
Bella-Angelique
QUOTE(Speakeasy @ Mar 1 2006, 03:02 PM) [snapback]1085681[/snapback]

A running theme in Roman artwork it it's use of extravagance and exaggeration to relay a point to the viewer. It would be a fallacy to consider any of their depictions of Roman life as completely accurate.


That is reaching in this instance.
There was no point to be made other than who built it.
Speakeasy
QUOTE(Bella-Angelique @ Mar 1 2006, 03:11 PM) [snapback]1085689[/snapback]

That is reaching in this instance.
There was no point to be made other than who built it.


My apologies. To me, your post was rather unclear in that respect. original.gif
CryptoRay
QUOTE(frogfish @ Mar 1 2006, 02:42 PM) [snapback]1085644[/snapback]

Speakeasy nailed it, both you and Norwegien Pheonix should do some research before making outrageous claims.

The Egyptians used a little something called TECHNOLOGY and ingenuity to built the pyramids. Ever hear od ramps, wedges, trolleys?

The ramps still don't explain it. It says that some of the stones weighted about 15 tons. It would be pretty hard to pull 15 tons all the way to the top of a pyramid especially in the desert. But lets get back on topic, this is a thread about giants, no.gif not how pyramids were built. If anybodys got any interesting pictures of giants' skeletons that they can find, please post them. original.gif
Jeanne d'Arc
What the &*%?? I thought this topic was about humans and giants.

While the pyuramid stuff is very interesting, could we stick to the topic and perhaps repost those under a different heading?
Darsawl
QUOTE(Jeanne d'Arc @ Mar 1 2006, 11:02 PM) [snapback]1085937[/snapback]

What the &*%?? I thought this topic was about humans and giants.

While the pyuramid stuff is very interesting, could we stick to the topic and perhaps repost those under a different heading?


yes i agree
stick to the nonsense
i mean topic
psyche101
Here is a different direction to consider original.gif

The Malaysian Bigfoot Giants !!

Cryptomundo

Obi Wan Kenobi
QUOTE(CryptoRay @ Feb 28 2006, 02:40 PM) [snapback]1083989[/snapback]

Do you think it is possible that many years ago giants existed? Back in the days there were giant animals, so is it also possible that there were giant humans?
"This monstrous figure is reputed to have been dug up by a Mr. Dyer whilst prospecting for iron ore in County Antrim. The principal measurements are: entire length, 12 ft 2 in.; girth of chest, 6 ft 6 in.; and length of arms, 4 ft 6 in. There are six toes on the right foot. The gross weight is 2 tons 15 cwt.; so that it took half a dozen men and a powerful crane to place this article of lost property in position for the Strand magazine artist. "
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The only giants that exsisted were some very very TALL africans & middle easterners that lived back in ancient times.

They were around 7-9 feet tall. Several players from the NBA have commented that their anncestors were very tall. Manute Bol, one of the tallest playes in NBA history at 7'6 said his grandfather was every bit of 9 feet tall.

Those were your giants back then. In ancient times people were very short. Scientists have estimated that the average height for a jewish person back then was probably on 5'7 to 5'9.

Manute Bol 7'6
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truth seeker
Guys I looked up in my Study Bible in the notes they have listed the hieght that they listed in the Bible for Goliath would be equal to about 9 ft 9 inches which is freakishly large but when consider that one of Philistine gaint had 24 total fingers and toes and that they had alot of gaints among there people not so odd.
Captain_Geek
QUOTE(CryptoRay @ Feb 28 2006, 01:40 PM) [snapback]1083989[/snapback]

Do you think it is possible that many years ago giants existed? Back in the days there were giant animals, so is it also possible that there were giant humans?
"This monstrous figure is reputed to have been dug up by a Mr. Dyer whilst prospecting for iron ore in County Antrim. The principal measurements are: entire length, 12 ft 2 in.; girth of chest, 6 ft 6 in.; and length of arms, 4 ft 6 in. There are six toes on the right foot. The gross weight is 2 tons 15 cwt.; so that it took half a dozen men and a powerful crane to place this article of lost property in position for the Strand magazine artist. "
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You guys have to remember that in ancient times, the average person was only 4 or five feet tall. Advanced in agriculture and farming have led to the heights humans now attain. So anyone of abnormal height (6 ft or above) would have been called a giant. And as the story of that individual was handed down, the story got exaggerated.

I magine a lone viking ancountering a salt water crocodile. He survives to tell the tale, but things get distorted and exaggerated and before long, he was fighting a sea dragon.

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Lord_Kazius
if i was a giant i would ride a bull.
Shai_Hulud
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They discussed the finding of 'The Hobbit' and another human ancestor I'd not heard of and called him 'goliath'. Which is VERY annoying because I can only find religious propaganda when I google it.

What I want to know is: was 'goliath' the same as gigantopithecus?
Did anyone catch that?
You must mean Homo heidelbergensis, it was a very large specimen of the Homo Erectus about 6ft, as Homo Floresiensis is a very small specimen of it. I won't think of them as conventional humans even if they are clasified as "Homo". Giganthropitecus is a very large ape, there is no reason to believe that it belongs anywhere on the human tree. There is an upper limit of height for a bipedal where it can become positively unhealthy, unless you are talking about specialised organs or body to adapt to it. Fossil evidence never indicates that there are giants, most of the evidence shown are hoax.
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