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Wow, not one of you mentioned the fallen angel story, and the events afterwards.
Now a days there are too many people who have tunnel vision & think narrow-mindedly.
Heroes and leaders are not made by thinking within a box, but by thinking outside of the box, into the world of possibilities, not the world of skepticsism. Research for yourselfs, but here are a few to get you started:

http://earth-history.com/

http://www.khouse.org/6640/BP052

http://www.bibleufo.com/giants.htm

http://www.bibleorigins.net/CherubimOrigins.html
This one goes into to the whole cherubim sphinx topic. Which, favors the monuements most famously on Mars, but elsewhere as well.

Please research for yourselfs. that is what the little search bar is for!









Laze
I saw that giant pic. in some book... if google does not come up with what your looking for... try www.metacrawler.com
Shai_Hulud
Angels are not a verifiable organism, to base a mythical creature such as a giant from it is not a sensible proposition. In fact, angels as a crypto is much harder to verify than a giant, which has some basis; gigantism. Anyway, I followed several links and they were all fake, it was discussed on this forum some time ago and it was all fake.
Dante The Hunter
I believe the version of events where your average human was of hobbit size, and anyone of average height today would be reputed as giant, and the stories become exagerated.










and kazius......kinda random, dont you think?

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if i was a giant i would ride a bull.

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Angels are not a verifiable organism, to base a mythical creature such as a giant from it is not a sensible proposition. In fact, angels as a crypto is much harder to verify than a giant, which has some basis; gigantism. Anyway, I followed several links and they were all fake, it was discussed on this forum some time ago and it was all fake.


Here we go then...
Tell me man, what is sensible?
And how do you define an organism?...A living breathing creature, something that has organs?...lol
Theoritically my computer desk is made up of atoms and various molecules, compressed to such a degree, that they remain in a single verifiable shape. Those same molecules and atoms make up you and I, so one could define my computer desk as an organism...
And theoritically, an organism itself is not a single organism, such as you and I, but made up of many organisms: amino acids, ribosomes...etc... which themselves are made up of even smaller organisms, quarks, gravitons, netrinos...etc...
A lot of people think that if you believe in angels or any similair creatures that you must behave like some sort of monk...lol
Angels themselves were created eons ago, and have a higher form a knowledge then humans.
Other people say that angels are spirits, not creatures. But they are contradicting themselves...Angels ARE creatures, ones that inhabit the spiritual realm, while "we" the creatures you and I are more familiar with, inhabit the physical realm, the one we are most familair with.
Now with that area squared away, lets talk about the saying "fallen angels"

When the bible mentions "fallen angels", it uses that term as an analogy. In fact, the bible is full of analogies and alogories.
"Fallen" is used to signify, that some angels, rebelled from god and his laws. The angels did not actually fall...lol, omg..lol, it cracks me up, that term.
Apples FALL, paratroopers FALL, a drunken monk will FALL.
ANGELS...lol, do not fall, they REBELLED.
"Fallen" is used in a way, similair like up is above down, heaven is above hell, up rules down, heaven rules hell. The most powerfull one is above the lesser powerfull one, so when the lesser one rebells from the most powerfull one, he falls farther away from him.
And Angels themselves were not the giants, the offspring from the angels and the mortal women were the giants.
I'll continue with this at a latter time!
Shai_Hulud
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Here we go then...
Tell me man, what is sensible?
To be sensible is to be self evident, to be recognisable as such using rationale, logic observation. To be insensible is to accept a hypothesis despite alll evidence to the sense.

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And how do you define an organism?...A living breathing creature, something that has organs?...lol
Theoritically my computer desk is made up of atoms and various molecules, compressed to such a degree, that they remain in a single verifiable shape. Those same molecules and atoms make up you and I, so one could define my computer desk as an organism...
You are committing a flaw in logic, specifically in composition. An organism is defined by a complex biochemical pocess, capable of reproduction, motility...etc. Non-biological entities such as a table or computer, while composing of very much the same fundamental particles does not qualify as an organism, afterall, noone mistakes a pile of crap as a furniture.

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And theoritically, an organism itself is not a single organism, such as you and I, but made up of many organisms: amino acids, ribosomes...etc... which themselves are made up of even smaller organisms, quarks, gravitons, netrinos...etc...
A lot of people think that if you believe in angels or any similair creatures that you must behave like some sort of monk...lol
So an organism is not a singlr organism... How did you come about it? For example your cells spermatoza or ova may seem to behave as an organism, but it is unable to reproduce by itself except with help from your fallopian tubes or testes. Likewise with other cells within your body. They are not distinct organism. A monk to me is propably a different thing than what you think.

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Angels themselves were created eons ago, and have a higher form a knowledge then humans.
Other people say that angels are spirits, not creatures. But they are contradicting themselves...Angels ARE creatures, ones that inhabit the spiritual realm, while "we" the creatures you and I are more familiar with, inhabit the physical realm, the one we are most familair with.
Now with that area squared away, lets talk about the saying "fallen angels"
You see, your first hypothesis is alread in error. It is not prudent to build on it since we haven't even recognise the existence of angels. What are your sources for the behaviour an state of angels? How credible is it? Have you personally witnessed the exalted state of this angels? What is spiritual realm? Are there any other lifeforms which exist in a non-physical state?
chunga
As I have stated in a prior post regarding Giants back in Oct.05, In my hometown there is an odd family that lives as if still in the knights and armour era. They have a large castle home and real armour knights all around it. They are collector's of anything of that age. In the front walkway leading up to the home there is a lightpost that has a glass box built into it. In the box is a small wooden bear. It is lit up at night and has a gold plate that states that the bear was carved from the wood of a spear that was used to kill a giant and it very, very old.

I first saw this little bear standing on all fours, back when I was a teenager and now Iam 43. I guess its real and all. Dont remember how much he paid for it , I remember it was a great amount.
It was in the paper's that he had won it at an auction in Scotland.
Just thought it odd and might relate to this topic.
Althalus
My opinion is that at some pointgiants or at least something that we now call giants did exist.

According to myth of britain it was originally inhabited by giants, who were drien out by the next race that came to these shores, man, before the time of the Celts.
Aristocrates
i watched a documentary on the historychannel, and it's beleived by some that people back them were actually finding dinosaur bones and assembled them in the way that our bones are assembled...so it would appear to be the remains of...well...giants.
kourui
maybe... disgust.gif
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