In the Bible, there were prophets here there and everywhere. Some of what was taught made it into the Bible, alot didn't.

What makes what the prophets say in the Bible more credible than any others at the time, and even what 'modern day prophets' speak of today? Who decides?



IMO, if there are credible prophets of the modern age, they are going to get swept under the rug by the majority of the Christian church (who beleives only what the Bible says as fact) because they do not feature in the Bible.

As a wise man once said in a long ago Roman province, if God is not with them nothing will come of their teachings and if God is with them then nothing can stop their teachings from spreading.

Good is logical and it has a way of perpetuating itself.

Doesn't the Bible tell of future false prohets who will deceive many?

IMO the message, content, content, content is everything, if a 'prophet is telling you what and who and why and where and how 'god' is then he himself knows nothing of 'god', If one is telling you your truth is inside these pages ,they are allowing anothers expression of divinity to define them, there is a huge difference...One does not need 'guidance or 'rules' to find that which is sacred, If a message contains fear and conditions and threats its not a message one should follow, you will become what you beleive simple as that...lol Namaste sheri

Yes. It is like illogic in that evil is dysfuctional and ends up destroying itself.
It always crashes in the end.

'Judge a tree by it's fruit' I think is a good phrase to use when looking at a 'prophets' credibility.

OK, from a Christian POV, what about Prophet Muhammad and Islam? That doesnt look like crashing any time soon.

There Were True And False Prophets
Scripture makes a distinction between the true prophets who spoke as the Lord led them and false prophets who spoke a message according their own devising. Jeremiah wrote.

Then the LORD said to me, “The prophets are prophesying lies in my name. I have not sent them or appointed them or spoken to them. They are prophesying to you false visions, divinations, idolatries and the delusions of their own minds” (Jeremiah 14:14).

Later Jeremiah recorded the Lord saying.

Both prophet and priest are godless; even in my temple I find their wickedness,” declares the LORD. . . This is what the LORD Almighty says: “Do not listen to what the prophets are prophesying to you; they fill you with false hopes. They speak visions from their own minds, not from the mouth of the LORD” (Jeremiah 23:11,16).

Ezekiel recorded God saying.

Son of man, prophesy against the prophets of Israel who are now prophesying. Say to those who prophesy out of their own imagination (Ezekiel 13:2).

There Were Degrees Of Illumination, Not Of Divine Inspiration
People vary as to the degree they are illumined to understand God’s Word. Some have greater insight than others. However in the case of divine inspiration, a person is either divinely inspired or they are not. There are no degrees of divine inspiration.
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How wise is a man that threatens????? Let me share a wise man Treat people as if they were what they ought to be and you help them become what they are capable of being, See the difference in the message....One promotes unbiased inspiration and positivity, no conditions as your message promotes righteousness and discrimination.....Look deeply in the message and you will see that for yourself...

Some people confuse divine inspiration, and illumination. Illumination is the divine influence of God’s Spirit that helps individuals understand the truth of God contained in the Bible. Illumination is something that comes directly from the Holy Spirit and is available to every believer. Paul wrote.

These things God has revealed to us through the Spirit; for the Spirit searches everything, even the depths of God . . . Those who are natural do not receive the gifts of God's Spirit, for they are foolishness to them, and they are unable to understand them because they are spiritually discerned (1 Corinthians 2:10,14)

When Peter confessed Jesus as the Messiah, Jesus said to him.

And Jesus answered him, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father in heaven” (Matthew 16:17).

Geez Irish, How do you figure out in your daily life if one is on the up and up with you??Experince, intuition, wisdom.......Every single thing is of divine inspiration, is a part of life made of the same stuff, , is an oak tree better than a evergreen tree?? Is a rose superior to a daisy???Is a eagle wiser that an owl???Is my first born suoperior to my third born???I'm sorry Irish but the more i look into the bible the more absurd it becomes, Can you explain to me how this makes sense?????

So for you, when you hear a true prophet, you will receive some kind of confirmation by God. If it is a false prophet, you'd feel a discomfort of some sort or no confirmation?

^^just to double check i get what you're saying

Its fundementalist aspects, including sharia law, do indeed look like their numbers are finally being called up out of their sheer dysfunctionality, much as the blue religious laws of the USA had their numbers called up to be erased by secular law.

Growth calls for change.

Irish this just doesn't make sense why would you beleive that one is unworthy or unable to recieve spiritual gifts unless they are following the bible??? It seems to prey on people who are for what ever resons not feeling very good about themselves IMO, this is just sad, to think this is actually in the bible....Irish you are a very lovely person and wise and experineced use that to guide you...Namaste sheri

Illumination Is For Believers Only
The Holy Spirit can illumine only believers. However Scripture says that unbelievers can actually make divinely inspired utterances. For example, the Holy Spirit divinely inspired the words of the High Priest Caiaphas.

But one of them, Caiaphas, who was high priest that year, said to them, “You know nothing at all! You do not understand that it is better for you to have one man die for the people than to have the whole nation destroyed.” He did not say this on his own, but being high priest that year he prophesied that Jesus was about to die for the nation, and not for the nation only, but to gather into one the dispersed children of God (John 11:49-52).

He uttered a divinely inspired message without being conscious of it. At that moment he was divinely inspired of God, but not illumined by the Holy Spirit - seeing that he did not understand the import of what he had just said.

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Illumination Reveals No New Truth
Illumination does not reveal new truth but rather gives understanding of old truth. We read, for example, of the conversation between two disciples that walked with Jesus on the road to Emmaus on the day of His resurrection.

And they said to one another, “Were not our hearts burning within us while he was speaking to us on the road, while he was explaining the Scriptures to us” (Luke 24:32).

Later that day, Jesus appeared to His disciples.

Then he opened their minds to understand the Scriptures (Luke 24:32).

Jesus explained, or illumined to them, what the written words of Scripture meant.

Theres more clearer scriptures but I forgot what book there in so here are some cryptic ones.

Conserning a Prophet's Credibility:

(24) His disciples said to him, "Show us the place where you are, since it is necessary for us to seek it."
He said to them, "Whoever has ears, let him hear. There is light within a man of light, and he lights up the whole world. If he does not shine, he is darkness."


And to Irish's audience:

(3) Jesus said, "If those who lead you say to you, 'See, the kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you. When you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is you who are the sons of the living father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."

Ill explain em if u want but its better to learn how to fish than to be given a fish.

As to the Bible's Apostles: 12 Apostles