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speaker of the house
The first of these is the belief that the Earth will actually tilt on its axis, as stated in the readings of Edgar Cayce and numerous other psychics. Rather like the skin of an orange sliding round the fruit inside, the crust of the Earth is predicted to move accordingly. There is some evidence to support this: For example, the poles, over time, may make the planet "top heavy" with the accumulation of ice and thus, in conjunction with the natural wobble in the rotation of the Earth, combine with this to tip the axis over. Perhaps this would explain the Mammoths found in Siberia with frozen daisies in their mouths, plants that only grow in temperate climates. There are numerous legends from indigenous peoples around the world that tell of a time when either the sun stood still or 3 days of darkness (depending on which part of the planet they were on at the time). A great deal of both channelled information and prophecy agree that this is an essential part of the ongoing Earth Changes that are preparing us for our great adventure.

Although no one is sure when the pole-shift will take place this time (but 2012 seems a bit of a sure bet), one thing is certain, it will happen within this generation.

Indeed, what happens at a pole-shift is anything calm. Usually when we approach the point in the precession of the equinoxes where the changes take place, everything begins to break down. The key is the magnetic field of the Earth, which is what we use to interpret who and what we think we are and also to store our memory. The day before, the day of, and the day after the full moon there is usually an increase in murders, rape, and other serious crimes because the moon causes a bubble on the magnetic field. This minute bubble is enough to push already emotionally disturbed people over the edge.

As the shift approaches, things begin to go out of balance, and the magnetic field begins to fluctuate significantly over a very short period of time (about 3 - 6 months). This would be like a full moon getting bigger and bigger every day. What happens then is that people start to go crazy emotionally. This breaks down economical and social structures on the planet because it is only people who keep these structures together.

According to prophetic and channelled writings, the pole and dimensional shifts are simultaneous (but this may not necessarily be the case-as in all things, discernment of all information is the key). About 5 - 6 hours before the actual shift happens, an extraordinary visual phenomenon should take place. The third and fourth dimensions actually begin to interface. Third dimensional consciousness gradually recedes away from us as we approach fourth dimensional consciousness. As the third dimensional grid begins to break down, synthetic objects disappear (say goodbye to your brand new Hi Fi & TV !!). This is one reason that even though there is a 500 million year history of advanced life on this planet, there is virtually no evidence of it. In order to survive a pole-shift, objects must be made purely out of natural materials like the pyramids and the Sphinx—natural materials that are in resonance with the Earth. Even then virtually everything on the planet will be blown away.

As the synthetic objects begin to disappear, fourth dimensional objects may suddenly emerge. Colours and shapes unlike anything we have ever known will appear on the landscape.

According to the Ascended Masters (See personal viewpoint page for my opinions on these "Masters"), we have already reached the point where 1.5 billion people will definitely make the conscious shift, and the Masters are projecting that everyone, or almost everyone will make it into the next dimension AS LONG AS WE ARE NOT TAKEN IN BY THE CHARADE THAT WILL BE PLAYED OUT OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS.

Even if we are able to keep the magnetic field together up until the actual shift, there will almost certainly be a three and a half day period when it will be completely gone. However, if you can manifest a Merkaba (not going to tell you what this is if you have not heard of it- do your own research - its fascinating), you have your own living time-space vehicle around your body; first of all to replace the magnetic field that has collapsed, and secondly to travel fully consciously from one dimension to another. As soon as the magnetic field collapses, the Earth may disappear for you, and you will be in the Great Void. The duration of this “bardo” will be three and a half days. (according to Gregg Braden in his Book "Awakening to Zero point - HIGHLY RECOMMENDED). Then life will come back in the fourth dimensional world.

You will find yourself in a brand new world the likes of which you have never conceived. You have been there many times before, but your memory has been erased. As you enter this world, though you understand little, you will be greeted by two beings, one male, and one female, father/mother. You will have a very close love connection to these beings. It will then take about two years experientially to grow, mature, and understand all at this level, and your new “parents” will assist and guide you. (This bit is pure speculation gleaned from a variety of channelled sources- don't believe it myself)

You will appear just as you are now, though more than likely naked (clothing usually doesn’t make it through- now ,now behave !!). However, the atomic structure of your body, though it comes through, will have changed dramatically. The mass of your atoms would have been converted to energy. The individual atoms will have separated from one another at a phenomenal distance. Most of your body will be energy—a light body!

Remember, in this new world you will be creating your reality moment by moment with your thoughts. Manifestation will be instant: if you think “banana”, then a banana will instantly appear, and you can peel and eat it!..(ooh the possibilities are endless !!!). This is why thoughts like peace, beauty, love etc., are so important. If you are motivated by fear in the fourth dimension, you will create and manifest your reality instantly, and you will find yourself confronted by something terrifying. The quality of thoughts is totally important on the fourth dimension. This is what Jesus meant when he stressed the purity of thoughts. Love and peace, and unity and being kind to your neighbours are ultimately very practical because they work reciprocally.

These things are important on the third dimension also, but, because of the time delay in manifestation, we get away with playing dumb and not seeing cause and effect. The third dimension seems to be a realm for mastering limitations or “victim” consciousness. In victim consciousness, the ultimate victim is one who doesn’t know that he or she is creating reality, and believes that things just happen to them.

Although I have made some humerous comments, this information is taken very seriously. Go with what you feel, if I have helped you then I am glad, if you don't accept any or all of this, I am equally happy .


For the alternative "Magnetic field theory", read on .....

The Terrestrial Magnetic Field decreasing and causing a Pole Shift ?

Much talk has revolved around coming pole shifts on Earth, either physical or magnetic. Does the evidence bear out such an event happening?

An 180-degree physical inversion of the planet's solid crust around the molten core would be the ultimate cataclysmic "Earth change". However, more than a few experts find this scenario most likely only if another planetary body - such as a 'rogue planet' or similar cosmic anomaly - passed in close proximity to the Earth, providing enough torque for such an event to occur.

A reversal of the magnetic poles is much more likely, however, as it's happened before. Seen in the paleomagnetic record, locked into rocks of the ocean floor and in some lava flows, scientists think the time between reversals on the Earth falls somewhere between every 100,000 to 25 million years, with the reversal itself taking about 5,000 years. [1]

Not that just the reversal takes that long, mind you, and therein lies the crux of the problem. No, during much of that time, the geomagnetic field strength decreases - which counts as part of the 'reversal' process. According to laboratory analysis of thermorenanent magnetization carried by clay baked in ancient times, the average global field intensity in any given region went through a broad maximum about 2,000 years ago. [2] After reaching a maximum, it then began its long descent.

NASA's Magnetic Field Satellite concurs, confirming a trend that goes back to at least 1830; namely, that the terrestrial magnetic field is decreasing in strength. At a rate measured by the satellite, the Earth's field will hit 'zero' in about 1,200 years.[3] That, at least, is the estimate.

One contributing factor to the decrease, and eventual reversal, may be intensifying core spots within the inner core that are magnetized in a sense opposite of the main field[4]; while competing energy sources, such as heat loss at the mantle-core boundary (itself possibly contributing to climate change) and growth of the inner core may also be contributing factors.[5]

As the field reaches 'zero', or close to it (some estimate the magnetic field will be at 20% of normal during a reversal), complete with periods of rapid and radical changes[6], something much more threatening than the upcoming reversal will occur.

First, as the field weakens, so does what many believe is the natural navigatory force for many living creatures. Studies have shown that whales, dolphins, birds and even molluscs and mice use the geomagnetic field as a guiding device. Some, like mice, use it as a directional guide[7]; while cetaceans use the total geomagnetic field as a map, not for directional information, as we would use a compass, but by navigating the contours of magnetic "hills and valleys" in a field that is anything but uniform.[8]

Without it, whales and dolphins would beach in record numbers, birds and other creatures would be 'lost', unable to find their home.

The effect of a magnetic reversal on humans is less known. Confusion might reign, and some theorize a complete 'reboot' of the human mind - the brain IS known to contain magnetite - might occur. However, as the field decreases (before a 'reversal'), one could surmise what may happen by looking at a recent experiment by Dr. Valerie Hunt. Hunt had a room constructed in which the magnetic field intensity could be varied. The following, as spelled out in her book, ''Infinite Mind'', was observed:

When "the magnetism was decreased, gross in-coordination occurred. The entire neurological integrating mechanism was thrown off. Subjects could not balance their bodies; they had difficulty touching finger to nose or performing simple coordinated movements. They lost kinaesthetic awareness."[9]

Could our bodies adjust as a much more gradual, long-term but worldwide decrease in the magnetic field intensity occurred? That may be doubtful, and if so then at what point near the conclusion of this pre-reversal descent would such in-coordination sweep over the human race?

Not that it would matter for long. Now, as the Earth and its magnetosphere ploughs through the solar wind, the charged particles are diverted around a 'shell' created by the geomagnetic field. Without that field, high-energy particles -- including dangerous gamma-, and X-rays -- would penetrate completely, to the surface. If television or radio were still in use at that point in the future, transmissions would become impossible. Electric power grids would be off-line indefinitely.

And the effects on organic matter?

Gamma rays, because they are so penetrating, can have severe effects on the cells of humans and other animals. As with cosmic rays, which also bombard the Earth at all times, gamma rays are known as ionising radiation, which can cause a host of problems from cell death to genetic mutations (leading to cancer), in any living thing.[10] As was said before, the magnetic pole reversal itself would be the least of the worries, as it's unlikely future generations would survive long enough to see it.

Bibliography

1. Scientific American Online, April, 1998.

2. "Geomagnetic Intensity as Evaluated from Ancient Pottery," Nature, 328:330, 1987.

3. "Magsat Down: Magnetic Field Declining," Science News, 117:407, 1980.

4. "Inner Earth Coming Out," Science News, 131:222, 1987.

5. "What Triggers Reversals of the Earth's Magnetic Field?" Nature, 309:115, 1984.

6. "How the Geomagnetic Field Vector Reverses Polarity," Nature, 316:230, 1985.

7. "Magnetic Orientation on Small Mammals," Journal of Mammalogy 70:1, 1989.

8. "No Through Road for the Misguided Whale," New Scientist, p. 46, February 12, 1987.

9. "Infinite Mind", Dr. Valerie Hunt, pp. 31.

10. "How Nuclear Radiation Works", BYG Publishing, 1998.
Aristocrates
aaaaarg, toooooo looooooong, lol
seriously though, nice research!
scipherel
Don't worry, the Aliens will fix it.
otherwise, they won't have homes too.
WereBo
SNAP!!!

Jeeeeez Speaker, a perfect example of 'Parallel Thinking'... grin2.gif

I just posted an identical (but shorter wink2.gif ) theory 20 mins earlier in another thread here Link Post #29 laugh.gif
aquatus1
I find it interesting that the only thing with references is the one that no one thinks is going to cause any signifigant damage to the Earth. Is the whole 'orange peel' nonsense simply attached to this just to try and leech off some of it's credibility?
speaker of the house
QUOTE(WereBo @ Mar 4 2006, 09:21 PM) [snapback]1090344[/snapback]

SNAP!!!

Jeeeeez Speaker, a perfect example of 'Parallel Thinking'... grin2.gif

I just posted an identical (but shorter wink2.gif ) theory 20 mins earlier in another thread here Link Post #29 laugh.gif



Actually...I read yours, it was discussing the actual magnetic poles reversing, was pretty interesting so I googled it, did a little reading which led me to this wackos website about the actually tilt of the earth changing, not just the electromagnetic poles. So yes...your post was my inspiration wub.gif
cerberusxp
GG Emanual Velekovsky would be proud! Check out interplanetary day after tomorow at link Took me a day and a half to read it all. (had to work to though) thumbsup.gif
Glacies
long post...very long, but as i always say, i like my posts like i like my women, long and full of body....anywho, i've never heard about this prior to this thread, very good intro to someone like myself who has no prior knowledge. thumbsup.gif
WereBo
I've watched and enjoyed all the recent Hollooywood 'Blockbuster' disaster movies, but 'The Day After Tomorrow' I found the scariest, mainly cos it's starting NOW!!!

It might well be next week or next 10 years or 50, we don't know. All we do know is that it will major...

With regards to earth's tilt etc, I did have a rather nasty thought. Extreme but nasty grin2.gif

If the ice melts and causes major planetary tilts etc, the weight shifting will possibly alter our solar orbit slightly, causing longer or shorter days. Whether we survive long enough to reset the clocks is another matter...
hamellr
FYI. this was supposed to have happened on May 5th, 2005 as that was supposedly the last time all the planets were in alignment and would cause enough gravitational pull.
SLGena
http://www.badastronomy.com
very informative.
FrothyDog
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For example, the poles, over time, may make the planet "top heavy" with the accumulation of ice and thus, in conjunction with the natural wobble in the rotation of the Earth, combine with this to tip the axis over.

This assumes that in space, there is a "down" where gravity is pulling.

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Perhaps this would explain the Mammoths found in Siberia with frozen daisies in their mouths, plants that only grow in temperate climates.

The earth spends most of its time with no ice at the poles at all. And lets not ignore continental drift, either. Oh, and which of the 26,000 species of daisy was it anyway?

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Indeed, what happens at a pole-shift is anything calm.

Why are there no mass extinctions corelating with the flipping of the poles that happens every couple of hundred thousand years?

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The key is the magnetic field of the Earth, which is what we use to interpret who and what we think we are and also to store our memory. The day before, the day of, and the day after the full moon there is usually an increase in murders, rape, and other serious crimes because the moon causes a bubble on the magnetic field. This minute bubble is enough to push already emotionally disturbed people over the edge.

Unlike my hard drive, i can put a high powered magnet to my head and still remember who i am. And did you consider that perhaps more crimes happen during the full moon because the light is better at night?

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This would be like a full moon getting bigger and bigger every day.

are you implying that the moon will get closer to the earth? the moon does not change size, it is just a skew in perspective when it seems larger low on the horizon, and small higher up.

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An 180-degree physical inversion of the planet's solid crust around the molten core would be the ultimate cataclysmic "Earth change". However, more than a few experts find this scenario most likely only if another planetary body - such as a 'rogue planet' or similar cosmic anomaly - passed in close proximity to the Earth, providing enough torque for such an event to occur.

first, the crust does not sit upon the core. it sits on the mantle. second, only the outer core is molten. third, even a large impact, as the earth has seen numerous times, has not flipped the plates.

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The effect of a magnetic reversal on humans is less known. Confusion might reign, and some theorize a complete 'reboot' of the human mind - the brain IS known to contain magnetite - might occur.

again, i can stick refrigerator magnets all over my head, and still remember my own name.

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When "the magnetism was decreased, gross in-coordination occurred. The entire neurological integrating mechanism was thrown off. Subjects could not balance their bodies; they had difficulty touching finger to nose or performing simple coordinated movements. They lost kinaesthetic awareness."

The sense of vertigo has nothing to do with magnetic fields. it has to do with the vestibular system in and around your ears. also, due to ampere's law there is no way to build a room capable of reducing the magnetic field. Magnetic fields

whew! that took a while.
psyche101
^^

Wow, might have taken awhile, but well worth the effort!!! Good post, nice to see such a well sturctured rebuttal original.gif
Essan
Indeed, good one FD thumbsup.gif

btw there's more evidence that I have 20 red spotted elephants living in a shed in my back garden than there is for the earth's crust having shifted in modern geological times wink2.gif
Mostar
2012 2012 2012 OMFG ! nothing is going to happen, the mayan calander ended 13 times already ffs !, enyway, that was to long so i just read the first part.
Roj47
QUOTE(Mostar @ Mar 15 2006, 10:43 AM) [snapback]1105350[/snapback]

2012 2012 2012 OMFG ! nothing is going to happen,


WHAT?????? WHAT????

The world is going to end at 8:12pm???

That sucks...... I am stuck at work until 7pm, and wont get in until 8pm!

ah well....... will still be able to make gf happy 12 times original.gif
Pilgrim_Shadow
QUOTE(speaker of the house @ Mar 4 2006, 08:33 PM) [snapback]1090295[/snapback]

...Rather like the skin of an orange sliding round the fruit inside, the crust of the Earth is predicted to move accordingly.


Ah, this old song and dance. To put it simply, this concept has been completely debunked. For starters, it isn't possible for the earth's crust to slip over the surface in the way described, because the crust consists of numerous disjointed plates which touch, but are not attached to, one another. They're also cemented to the mantle too firmly to allow for such a massive jolt.

QUOTE(speaker of the house @ Mar 4 2006, 08:33 PM) [snapback]1090295[/snapback]

There is some evidence to support this: For example, the poles, over time, may make the planet "top heavy" with the accumulation of ice and thus, in conjunction with the natural wobble in the rotation of the Earth, combine with this to tip the axis over.


That's a hypothesis, not evidence. It's also, again, wrong. Once you accumulate enough ice, glaciers no longer build upwards. Rather, the increased pressure forces the ice to slide out sideways. More ice = more pressure = more friction = more heat = faster glacial flow. Once you hit that tipping point, your ice cap can only grow outwards. Furthermore, the additional weight is offset by isostatic depression (the land underneath is compressed downwards). Antarctica is already depressed by as much as several hundred feet in some places. This nullifies any "heavy ice cap" effect that might exist.

QUOTE(speaker of the house @ Mar 4 2006, 08:33 PM) [snapback]1090295[/snapback]

Perhaps this would explain the Mammoths found in Siberia with frozen daisies in their mouths, plants that only grow in temperate climates.


The "flash-frozen mammoth" idea is a Young Earth creationist invention, or more accurately, an exaggeration. Certainly many mammoths have been found frozen in ice in a remarkably well-preserved state. Some have even been found with plant material in their stomachs, largely intact. However, the extent of the preservation has been greatly overreported. The truth is that no remains of this sort have ever been found that did not show signs of visible decay and/or mutilation by scavengers - which implies that they lay exposed for some time before being frozen. The plant material survived because plant material is very tough and does not decay easily. It's not really mysterious and certainly nothing that can't be explained by existing theories about the prevailing climate of the time.

One particularly good yarn about flash-frozen mammoths claimed that in the early part of the 20th century, Russian scientists feasted on the preserved remains of a frozen mammoth. The story is, of course, false. No mammoth-steak feasts were ever recorded by the Russians.

QUOTE(speaker of the house @ Mar 4 2006, 08:33 PM) [snapback]1090295[/snapback]

There are numerous legends from indigenous peoples around the world that tell of a time when either the sun stood still or 3 days of darkness (depending on which part of the planet they were on at the time).


I have a hard time picturing an earth change which could bring about 3 days of darkness in one area of the globe and only the temporary appearance that the sun had stopped moving in another. It is true that in northern and southern extremes the sun seems to vanish for 6 months out of the year, but that's due to axial tilt and is hardly the same thing. Furthermore, such tales are hardly universal, and one would have to think that such an event would be hard to miss. Did the other people simply not record it, for some reason? I'd have to say the most likely explanation that some cultures show no such records of the event is because it never happened.

QUOTE(speaker of the house @ Mar 4 2006, 08:33 PM) [snapback]1090295[/snapback]

A great deal of both channelled information and prophecy agree that this is an essential part of the ongoing Earth Changes that are preparing us for our great adventure.


I'd argue that channeling and prophecy are dubious sources of information.

QUOTE(speaker of the house @ Mar 4 2006, 08:33 PM) [snapback]1090295[/snapback]

Although no one is sure when the pole-shift will take place this time (but 2012 seems a bit of a sure bet), one thing is certain, it will happen within this generation.


I'm afraid I don't see how you came to this conclusion at all. What evidence do we have that a pole shift (if such a thing can occur, which I don't believe it can) will happen in the near future?

QUOTE(speaker of the house @ Mar 4 2006, 08:33 PM) [snapback]1090295[/snapback]

Indeed, what happens at a pole-shift is anything calm. Usually when we approach the point in the precession of the equinoxes where the changes take place, everything begins to break down. The key is the magnetic field of the Earth, which is what we use to interpret who and what we think we are and also to store our memory.


Slow down, please. Everything we know about the brain says that our personalities and memory are stored in the brain without aid from the earth's magnetic field. It's true that the brain can be affected by powerful, localized magnetic fields, but it hasn't been shown that anything even close to this kind of focused disruption could occur in nature. Certainly the earth's magnetic field is far too weak to have such an effect.

QUOTE(speaker of the house @ Mar 4 2006, 08:33 PM) [snapback]1090295[/snapback]

The day before, the day of, and the day after the full moon there is usually an increase in murders, rape, and other serious crimes because the moon causes a bubble on the magnetic field. This minute bubble is enough to push already emotionally disturbed people over the edge.


Lunacy has been thouroughly debunked (that is, the idea that the full moon causes strange behavior, not the existance of crazy people). Studies have conclusively shown time and again that there is no rise in violent crime or other odd behaviors during the full moon.

As to the bubble on the magnetic field idea, I'm not aware of any physical model which could account for that. Magnetic fields don't get "bubbles" on them.

QUOTE(speaker of the house @ Mar 4 2006, 08:33 PM) [snapback]1090295[/snapback]

As the shift approaches, things begin to go out of balance, and the magnetic field begins to fluctuate significantly over a very short period of time (about 3 - 6 months). This would be like a full moon getting bigger and bigger every day. What happens then is that people start to go crazy emotionally. This breaks down economical and social structures on the planet because it is only people who keep these structures together.


As I said, the concept of Lunacy has been thoughroughly debunked.

QUOTE(speaker of the house @ Mar 4 2006, 08:33 PM) [snapback]1090295[/snapback]

According to prophetic and channelled writings, the pole and dimensional shifts are simultaneous (but this may not necessarily be the case-as in all things, discernment of all information is the key).


"Dimensional shift?" I think you may have to define that term for us. I can only assume it means to shift an object's position along one or more dimensional axis. If that's the case, then I dimensionally shift my way to work each morning just by walking.

QUOTE(speaker of the house @ Mar 4 2006, 08:33 PM) [snapback]1090295[/snapback]

About 5 - 6 hours before the actual shift happens, an extraordinary visual phenomenon should take place. The third and fourth dimensions actually begin to interface. Third dimensional consciousness gradually recedes away from us as we approach fourth dimensional consciousness.


I'm at a loss to express how staggeringly wrong that seems, but I doubt it would matter much as no one who believes it would be swayed by science anyway. So instead I'll just concentrate on the other end of this statement. How do we know this is what's going to happen? Prophecy? If the prophet himself doesn't possess a "fourth-dimensional consciousness," how could they perceieve these changes, even in a vision? If they do, how would they even notice the change? If they don't, but gained such a consciousness in their vision, how would they be able to explain their vision after the vision ends and their consciousness goes back to normal?

QUOTE(speaker of the house @ Mar 4 2006, 08:33 PM) [snapback]1090295[/snapback]

As the third dimensional grid begins to break down, synthetic objects disappear (say goodbye to your brand new Hi Fi & TV !!). This is one reason that even though there is a 500 million year history of advanced life on this planet, there is virtually no evidence of it.


You're begging the question. You're saying (if I'm understanding you correctly) there's a 500 million year history of advanced life, then saying that during a pole shift the evidence vanishes. But you're using that vanishing act to prop up the idea that the civilization existed. Before you can make a hypothesis to explain the lack of evidence, you have to prove the civilization that left the evidence existed in the first place.

I'd also point out that there isn't "virtually" no evidence of such a civillization. There is no evidence, period, that I'm aware of.

QUOTE(speaker of the house @ Mar 4 2006, 08:33 PM) [snapback]1090295[/snapback]

In order to survive a pole-shift, objects must be made purely out of natural materials like the pyramids and the Sphinx—natural materials that are in resonance with the Earth. Even then virtually everything on the planet will be blown away.


What about my car? It's made of metal. Metal is natural. Also, plastic is not natural, but it's composed of natural substances. Houses are made of wood - you can't get much more natural than that.

I had more to say on this but the post length is already getting far too long, so let me conclude by saying that I don't think there is enough good evidence here to convince me that any kind of earth-shattering pole shift is about to take place.

-Pilgrim
Ancient World Wonders
Nice theory, the people of Atlantis would be proud. ^-^
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