OK i hope someone can help me out here.

I was standing on my drive way juist wasting a few minites before i was off tho school, lookin down the street. It was not quite morning so it was still semi-dark out. Then right were i was watchin a black.. i dont know like dusty streak just flew across the top of the street. It wsnt an animal cuz it took no more than a split second to cross and it was not in contact with the ground. It couldnt have been a bird either because it was to long and had a smokey/dusty apperance to it. Ive thought about it about a week and have noclue..

Come on someone HAS to have some idea.

Well, I have tried to reply to this thread twice over the last few days and both times my PC freaked out and it failed to post my comments...
I'll try again one more time...

I'll start with the question that begs to be asked: are you SURE that what you saw wasn't an animal?

Here are some facts about your vision in darkness and in dim lighting.
-<You don't have 3-D vision in such conditions and this can seriously alter you perception of what you are seeing...
-<In dim lighting or at night you can't accurately judge the speed of a moving object. The background, which we use to estimate speeds of things in motion is not as visible, therefore a flying bird, bat or bug can appear to be moving at remarkable speeds or else they can appear to be flying at unusually slow speeds...

Aside from your lack of visual accuity in low lighting, there are birds, insects and bats that are capable of flying a phenominal speeds. A perfect example of this is the Perigren Falcon that can reach speeds of nearly 200 miles per hour.

Chances are very good that you saw something that was very natural, nothing at all supernatural. However, there are a couple of paranormal things that are worth mentioning...

In the area of cryptozoology,,,you might have seen a "critter" that is normally only seen on videotape that is viewed frame by frame. These creatues are called "Rods." I have never heard of anyone seeing one with their bare eyes though, but I live by the motto that ANYTHING is possible. In any case, "Rods" are believed to be yet unspecified life forms by most people, while others say that they are simply an anomaly of videotape and a few people think they're from UFO's. Most likely they are insects, whether they are common ones or something that we don't yet understand. These things appear to be rather long, they fly at very very high speeds and look a bit like a long dragonfly with two sets of wings. See the photo that I have attached so that you can get an idea of what these are said to look like. I borrowed this screen cap still from http://www.opendb.com to demonstrate how Rods appear in a video frame. There are good descriptions of Rods on this site and in many others on the web.
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Another paranormal possibility is that you saw some type of Shadow Creature, or a Shadow Person. I have personally seen these and I have written some very good threads on the subject of these things on this site in the past. I have no answers to what they are, but you normally see them out of the corner of your eye first, but I have actually turned my head and seen them straight on. I do not believe that they are ghosts, demons, tricks of the eyes, imagined or aliens, I can just say that many people see them and while many people have their own ideas, no one has a real explanation as to what they might be. You might have seen some type of Shadow Being. Below I have attached a photo of a humanoid "Shadow Booger," but the seem to come in animal forms too. It's rare for one to be photographed,,,usually you just find drawings of them, but I found this one and it looks exactly like the ones that I've seen. I borrowed this pic from www.ghoststudy.com. I did crop this pic and resize it so that you can better see the details of these entities. In fact http://www.ghoststudy.com has a fantastic section on their site about Shadow Creatures and if you're interested I recommend that you surf on over to their site and take a "look-see."

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Nevertheless, I would be willing to bet that what you saw was a bird, bat, common insect or even a squirrel. Squirrels can dash across a road so quickly that you can hardly distinguish whether their little feet are touching the ground or not. Whatmore, early in the morning when you have been asleep and you're just getting your day started, it's common for you to imagine things. It's a sort of waking-sleep that in medical terminology is called hypnogogia. In this state you can actually be awake and feel alert and yet you don't percieve things normally, you sort of "dream things." It's one of those freaky natural altered states of conciousness that might explain many supernatural occurances. Beyond this though, I have no clues as to what you might have seen.

So there you go! I finally got my answer to post on this thread! I hope that it helps you to figure out what you saw or understand what happened that morning...

rods are insects flying past a camera which has a shutter speed/frame rate too slow to capture it in flight correctly, and shows it as a streak, which are adopted to be rods.

maybe a swarm of wasps or insect? you said it looked dust like, so perhaps lots of tiny flying insects in a group?

Well the semi dark thing that David wrote makes alot of scence. It wouldnt suprize me if i just saw a bird or something fly across the road but if im correct im not sure how "active birds are during this time of year.. But im sure it was not touching the ground because it was hight enough off to tell atleast that. Its also very true im by no means a morning person. The riods thing is an intresting thing also as with the shadow figures the only thing about the shadow figure is that it was no real reconizable form just like a smokey-like long streak. If it was a swarm of wasps im not goin back down that street without being in a car.


Thank you for the posts!!! Very much!

Say it aint so dave...you are my "peeps"...I'm not sure what to say about this....but I do now have a question...You didn't happen to get medically discharged did you?

David, I have seen these things myself, and still unsure as to what they are. Ive always had the opinion they are some form of a ghost or the likes. Ive never given the though of Shadow People though. Would you mean people from another plane of existance, or? Ive seen them straight on, through the corners of my eyes, but have NEVER been able to take a pic of them. They simply dont show in any pics that I take. As for what this person saw on the street, I'll have to agree that I think it was birds streakin across. I live near a lake, and I see things like that quite often. I dont know much about birds (names and the likes) but when i first started seeing these white streaks go by me when I went fishin in the am, I asked the locals about it. They told me it was just some small whitish birds swoopin around...

HA! HA!
Very Funny Speaker!!!

No, I didn't get a medical, but I wish that I had!

Today, I'd be getting a nice V.A. Check, I'd be able to stand on a street corner in dirty clothes and long hair holding a cardboard sign that says; "I'm a POOR Disabled Veteran, PLEASE DONATE!!!"

I'd not have to work for a living.
Oh The Possibilities!!!

I have always thought that they are something from another deminsion or plane of existance,,,I have never felt that they were ghosts, demons or anything to fear, eventhough a lot of people think that they look like The Grim Reaper.

Back in the days when I was a Police Officer I saw them all over the place when I was on patrol. One Officer on The Force believed that they were "Protective Entities" related to the large number of ancient Native American Tribes that once populated the area. This Officer was himself a Wiccan and he felt that he had specific insight into these things.

The majority of people who sight these entities only see them out of the corner of their eyes, they pass them off as hallucinations and they forget the whole thing. However, when you can turn your head and see them straight on, you don't pass that off as your imagination.

My late-mother and my late-wife were both very sensitive to these things,,,they saw them years before that I ever saw one. My wife and I bought a particularly old and spooky looking house when I worked in Pennsylvania. This old manor was built by a 19th Century Doctor and it was located next to a Municipal Cemetary. There were numerous stories in the area about that house being haunted, but I never payed much attentuion to them. I never saw anything, but once my late-wife and I heard something, however, that's an entirely different story and it's doesn't belong on this particular thread.

In any case, she always told me that she saw "Shadowy Figures" out of the corner of her' eyes in that place. When my parents came to visit, my Mother, who was a very sane, level-headed and educated woman saw them all over the place. I don't believe that I ever saw one there though, and my Father never mentioned it either.

If these things were in that house, and if the house was haunted as local lore had it, then I believe that these Shadow Beings were coincidental,,,not ghosts and nothing associated with the cemetary. However, I am open to the possibility that house, or some part of the house, was a portal through which The Shadow Creatures passed.

We'll...I love ya anyways....even though you are crazy...


Has nothing to do with the fact that you were a Combat Controller and could kill me in 2 seconds flat....

It's always great to be loved,,,even if you ARE a wacky kind of dude like me.

Oh, I wouldn't kill ya, Speaker, you're a "Bro.!" But you're right, in the Cmdos they do teach you a few really cool tricks...

However, when you run for "The House" I'll vote for ya,,,even if I have to move to your home state.

L-rd! I hope you're not from Alaska!!! Brrrrrr!!!!

Unfortunately we don't have representation, we just pay taxes...sounds familiar eh...wasn't there a whole revolutionary war over this whole thing....oh well...Washington DC Here....our license plate says it best.....Taxation without Representation....

I'd guess a bat, there's a bunch of them living in my back yard, they fly around all the time.

What can I say? You said it all, and without a doubt, you said it truthfully! Come to think of it, there was a great big revolutionary war about that a couple of centuries ago,,,it's just too bad that it doesn't count in the Nation's Capital!


BTW, I like your new skunk avatar. It looks just like the little "skunky" thats painted on the "Skunk Works" building that faces Sierra Hwy up in Palmdale. I've driven by it many times.

That reminds me of the ghost in the black cape dress: possibly an apparition of a demon-worshipper or other evil spirits of the Western societies.

In Asia, they called it "Scissor Ghost" or "Aarm" (in Thai) which normally possess or immobilize or jump on its victim while the victim is sleeping. Noted that Black color normally refers as "evil" in Asia. Sometimes it could jump from one tree to another tree like a monkey but the appearance was totally dark, blackish, dusty like you mentioned.

Does your location have a haunted history behind it?

However, many people witnessed strange hitchiker ghost or a ghostly figure, running at about 10 inches above the ground or sometimes they just float above the ground or road/sidewalk for only about 10 inches so it could not be a bird, obviously.

No real histry behind my neighborhood but there was a "recent" death as in a month ago... was violent or anything just natural??

Ive never seen heard or heard of bats around here. Ive never even seen one to be honest.

Sounds like one of the Shadow entities - see other threads here for more info

I mentioned that in my original post on these thread, see above...

HELLO!!!! Speaker Skunk Works Dude??? Are You Out There???

::ECHO::

That would spook me too.! I have seen dark shadows in my home and once someone for a split second on my pool deck in a bright shirt not a black fog like form though you hear about that a lot though.