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Imaginary Friend
Given the relation between the watcher and the watched,one might wonder what we have learned about the watcher that supplicants pray to for salvation, while the watcher continues to watch awaiting those that made the problem to recognize it is their responsibility to create the solution they pray to that watcher to save them from.

Therefore, I would hope the prime creator wonders what "It" has taught us. There is little time left, indeed is the way of each mortals life. There has been greater time spent to bring us here, while the watcher watches as our time draws near yet again, as generations before. Supplicant and reaching for salvation.
When is it enough for god to be god and answer the prayers!? Instead of waiting for the sinners to save themselves from their hells!?
Imaginary Friend
((HUGS BACK)) Indeed this life is all that we know for certain is ours to do with as we will. Blessings abide your journey. original.gif
Tangerine Sheri
Anson, Here is a great little parable the little soul and the sun, http://www.spiritual.com.au/articles/stori...un_ndwalsch.htm Enjoy namsate Sheri
ValpoSeeker
I absolutely believe that the essence of all of us, the energy that coalesces into human consciousness is eternal. For whatever reason we have been placed here to experience the effects of time and cause and effect. IMO we are sleeping, what I mean is we really do know who we are but we have agreed to forget in order to make this great experiment work.
Imaginary Friend
QUOTE(ValpoSeeker @ Mar 12 2006, 01:23 AM) [snapback]1100455[/snapback]

I absolutely believe that the essence of all of us, the energy that coalesces into human consciousness is eternal. For whatever reason we have been placed here to experience the effects of time and cause and effect. IMO we are sleeping, what I mean is we really do know who we are but we have agreed to forget in order to make this great experiment work.


I've spoken with others that believe that as well. To expand on the thought; if we are the essence of all that is, and we have agreed to forget that so as to engage ourselves into this experience, what would be the purpose so as to engage in that experiment, if the essence is also invested in the experiment.
I look forward to your thoughts. original.gif
ValpoSeeker
QUOTE(Imaginary Friend @ Mar 11 2006, 07:35 PM) [snapback]1100474[/snapback]

I've spoken with others that believe that as well. To expand on the thought; if we are the essence of all that is, and we have agreed to forget that so as to engage ourselves into this experience, what would be the purpose so as to engage in that experiment, if the essence is also invested in the experiment.
I look forward to your thoughts. original.gif



Ahh what would be the purpose? If we knew all of the answers before we came here then why come? I think this is what you are asking? I believe that it is no different than playing a game for enjoyment. If you think about it this would be the most difficult game ever created. To get everything where it needs to be at one exact moment with the added bounds of time and cause and effect would be a great challenge where it would not outside of time where cause is not required. Im not sure but maybe we came here to mix it up a bit. In a way this is the sources way of experiencing this which was created. To get a bit deeper and maybe jog your mind a little imagine if You are the creator experiencing the one aspect of the universe which is you and everyone else is virtual in nature until the time when the creator plays their role. In essence before the end the source would experience everything that could be experienced in this universe. This may sound a bit crazy but it has a bonus if the source planned the end of the Universe to be the birth of all of us into his unified consciousness then through the expansion of time and dimension the source would have been expaneded in a way that would not be possible outside the universe. I hope I didnt lose anyone there it is hard to explain. I believe that we agreed to take this challenge and at the end of time we will be ressurected into the source at Omega Point which would also represent Aplpha point and a new universe. There you go reverse causality without an infinite loop. A new fresh universe everytime and an infinity of universes to explore and discover. It is hard to fathom infinite computation. If I am right I know that I will have a big smile on my face when I see my Grandmother again and we are resurrected into the virtual infinity at the last microsecond of this universe.
ValpoSeeker
QUOTE(Anson_Kail @ Mar 18 2006, 11:24 AM) [snapback]1110344[/snapback]

ValpoSeeker, I enjoyed reading your post and I thank you for it. I'm wondering what the pic you posted represents? I find it interesting.


Its a representation of infinite computation at the Omega Point. It is from Frank J. Tiplers website. Basically Tipler believes that we will transcend our bodies and take a more virtual nature in the future. Thats why it looks like a circuit board leading to Omega. The first time I read his book "The Physics of Immortality" I was very skeptical as I think most are because of the huge number of things that have to happen in order for his theory to come true. When I read David Deutsch's take on it however I began to see where my skepticism was coming from and I was able to look at it from a different tac. If you liked my post you would love the book I spoke of, at least the first part of it anyway. When Tipler gets into the math you have to be a doctoral level physicist to make anything out of it.
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