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makaya325
you guys know how giant squids were thought to be folklore, but turned up to be real? do you think sea serpents were based on unknown animals to?
BigfootForever
QUOTE(makaya325 @ Mar 7 2006, 05:25 PM) [snapback]1093712[/snapback]

you guys know how giant squids were thought to be folklore, but turned up to be real? do you think sea serpents were based on unknown animals to?

maybe some of them sure, but i think that there are many sea animals that have yet to be discovered.
Tia
The oceans are a mighty big place, and still largely unexplored. Anything is possible.
Otacon
Take the movie 'The Abyss' for example. It's pretty deep down there..

Who knows whats at its depths..?!
frogfish
Giant Squids were never foklore. They were always known to have existed. We have been finding dead corpses for centuries.

Sea Serpents were just tales drunken sailors told of something they couldn't identify i.e. whale, oarfish, squids, etc.

Hey mayaka, nice to see you didn't use CAPS yes.gif
psyche101
Giant Squids were not folklore, evidence of their existance has been documented for a long time. Just no specimens or footage was available till recently.

Hehe, hard to base the idea of a Sea Serpent on anything, as there is no documentation or pictures to prove their existance. No hard proof to this day exists that will make any recognised body accept them as an animal, so they are to date they are still folklore based on folklore grin2.gif

Sea Serpents is a broad statement. We have Nessie, Storsie, Champ, Caddy, the San Francisco sightings, all sound like different animals. (Nessie and Champ - similar Pelisiosaur sightings, Caddy and SF - similar serpentine sightings - Storsie - different again, sounds like it is a fish)

I like to hope there is a new animal of that magnitude yet to be discovered, I remain skeptical though. Be very cool if Sea Serpents turn out to be real grin2.gif

PS Frogfish, beat me again!! Great minds huh grin2.gif
frogfish
I beat you to it psyche!
psyche101
QUOTE(frogfish @ Mar 8 2006, 11:58 AM) [snapback]1094133[/snapback]

I beat you to it psyche!



All I can say is well done and well said original.gif

Great minds grin2.gif
dreamhunter
usually myths are from mislead minds or real things.
Dragonic Darkness
I think they might exist. :S
Maybe they're just very well adapted to the depths... Or they could be large creatures, deformed by the darkness. :S
frogfish
Thank you psyche original.gif
makaya325
QUOTE(Dragonic Darkness @ Mar 8 2006, 02:11 AM) [snapback]1094165[/snapback]

I think they might exist. :S
Maybe they're just very well adapted to the depths... Or they could be large creatures, deformed by the darkness. :S


its HIGHLY likely sea serpents exist.
psyche101
QUOTE(frogfish @ Mar 8 2006, 12:11 PM) [snapback]1094168[/snapback]

Thank you psyche original.gif


NP thumbsup.gif

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its HIGHLY likely sea serpents exist.


makaya325, makaya325, makaya325 remeber to start those daming staments with I believe that......
Just trying to save you a hammering buddy thumbsup.gif
frogfish
Do you have any proof Mayaka?
jobot37
I think a lot of sea serpents actually were giant squid....maybe really big ones, like in all the pictures of them taking down whole ships and stuff.
makaya325
QUOTE(jobot37 @ Mar 9 2006, 03:42 AM) [snapback]1095956[/snapback]

I think a lot of sea serpents actually were giant squid....maybe really big ones, like in all the pictures of them taking down whole ships and stuff.


i think they were sea serpents( giant eels, snakes, mososaur, plesiosaur)
jobot37
Good for you.
Agent. Mulder
QUOTE(makaya325 @ Mar 9 2006, 11:21 PM) [snapback]1097280[/snapback]

i think they were sea serpents( giant eels, snakes, mososaur, plesiosaur)


yeah, agreed.
and if these dinosaurs existed a looooong time ago, they could still have found a way to survive to this day. just like that fish they thought was extinct 60million years ago, but then people were catchin it in the ocean in the early 1900's. so anythings possible. those oceans are really deep.

edit - fish is called coelacanth (pronounced see-la-kanth apparently)
psyche101
Anything is possible 'ey.
No it's not,
Run 50 kilometers in under 30 seconds. Then I will believe that anything is possible.
or
Hold your breath constantly for two days, I will accept that too.
or
Jump over the Moon in a single jump - just like the cow original.gif I will accept that too.

The Coelacanth is a great deal smaller than a proposed Sea Serpent, how is it you reckon we have missed the Sea Serpents, but picked up on a fish? The Coelacanth was discovered in 1938 - fair while ago. Our technology and presence on this planet has increased greatly since that time as well.
Just strikes me as strange that some divers on holiday can find a 6 inch Lobster at a depth of 7,540 feet of the coast of an uninhabited island 900 miles from anywhere - now you really have to be suitably impressed by that or you are just not thinking rationally. Yet we don't have one clear undeniable picture or piece of irrefutable evidence of a Sea Serpent wich enjoys many reported public sightings each year...... dontgetit.gif So what is going on? How is it these creatures are better at camoflage than a chameleon - we have found those and they are pretty darn small. Octopii are pretty adept at is as well, yet we have found quite a few of them some really small ones too.
Yeah the Ocean is a big place, and yeah there is heaps to learn yet. I don't think it is likely at all that we will find something so brand new and of such impressive proportion to add to our animal library though. It is not like we have discovered something the size of a Whale even in the last 100 years.

For those who believe they exist, why do you believe? I would be really interested to know what has you so convinced?
(geez - seen the silly names already being used by some for the new crustecean - Yeti Crab, Bigfoot Lobster, that just sounds sooooo stupid rolleyes.gif )
frogfish
Psyche is right. Coelecanth take up a much smaller ecological niche in our ecosystem....They more likely would survive a disaster. However, prehistoric reptiles were too 'large' to have survived the K-T event.
Mosasaurs and Pliosaurs and Plesiosaurs are now extinct. I doubt giant eels ever existed...
psyche101
QUOTE(frogfish @ Mar 10 2006, 11:28 AM) [snapback]1097633[/snapback]

Psyche is right. Coelecanth take up a much smaller ecological niche in our ecosystem....They more likely would survive a disaster. However, prehistoric reptiles were too 'large' to have survived the K-T event.
Mosasaurs and Pliosaurs and Plesiosaurs are now extinct. I doubt giant eels ever existed...



Spot on Buddy thumbsup.gif

Also, that is a very good point I had not considered, the bottom of the Ocean for a smaller creature in a cave would be the most likely place to survive a planet wide catastrophic event.
Also make them harder to find, might take thousands of years for a developing species to 'discover' them.
frogfish
Also, the deeper you go, the smaller the animals...the pressure is way too high.
BigDaddy_GFS
QUOTE(frogfish @ Mar 10 2006, 04:48 AM) [snapback]1097692[/snapback]

Also, the deeper you go, the smaller the animals...the pressure is way too high.


Not necessarily. Very large sharks, like the six-gill and Megamouth live in very deep parts.
Giant squid live in the deep, and sperm whales dive deep to get at them.

'Deep' and 'large' are relative terms.
JeremyGTS
id like to believe they exsist but the thing is there isnt enough hard evidence... the only pics/vids you see they are like 100 yards from the thing so that could be ANYTHING out there in the water... a bass jumping or something who knows anything... but what i can believe is it is all a way to lure people in to spend money and the bait is working... i wont believe until one of these beast are caught and studied until then theres nothing in the water...
frogfish
Large animals are still relatively outnumbered by the number of small animals. They don't spend their whole time in the deep.
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