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REBEL
QUOTE(missy_au @ Oct 3 2006, 02:11 PM) [snapback]1374976[/snapback]

yeah, i remember that one.i think i was in year 8 when the port Arther massicre happened, i heard on the news the other day that he is just like a zombie in prison now, expressionless and unremorcful, doesn't talk to anyone.

Thats why it's hard to put him in the class of evil serial killers. I think that,...that fatefull day somthing inside his head just went snap,and 34 or 36 for memory,.. people sadly lost their lives that day.
Prior to that day he would have been the average John Smith in the street. People who knew him fairly well in the community were just as shocked by it all according to police.
That's what makes this case the most frightning in history. No pattren of any kind for investigators to follow up whatsoever and worst of all no warning...he just went snap.
It makes you want take a second look in and around your own neihbourhood at times. mellow.gif
REBEL
QUOTE(isis-999 @ Oct 3 2006, 01:13 PM) [snapback]1374931[/snapback]

I think AR's right there are so many and each one has something different that makes them really bad...Its hard to say which would the worse of all time..... hmm.gif


I think you can catogorize isis in cases were children are involved. Those 2 seprate ''beyond evil'' cases in England and Belgium involving *many children, youngest who were tortured, raped for years and then murderd thieir lives taken before they even had a chance to start .
Yea i think u can catogrize serial killings.
The ages varied from 4 to 14 for memory.

*unsure of the exact number.
fangs
Pedro López was a pretty bad one.over 300 people killed in South America.
REBEL
QUOTE(fangs @ Oct 3 2006, 06:13 PM) [snapback]1375124[/snapback]

Pedro López was a pretty bad one.over 300 people killed in South America.

Whats the basic story behind that one.
fangs
heres a link to a site that has some info on him,i've heard some stories about him but not alot.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Lopez
Col. Kurtz
I think he went from village to village in south or central america and killed little kids.
REBEL
QUOTE(REBEL @ Oct 3 2006, 06:35 PM) [snapback]1375133[/snapback]

Whats the basic story behind that one.

I'm blown away man,...no sh**...what the. ohmy.gif
fangs
yeah can you believe the police had him and let him go because he was only killing tribal children!! angry.gif
REBEL
QUOTE(Col. Kurtz @ Oct 3 2006, 06:46 PM) [snapback]1375143[/snapback]

I think he went from village to village in south or central america and killed little kids.

That has to be the worst without doubt.
fangs
i think Countess Bathory was another one who was realy freaky.
bathing in the blood of virgins and all those village girls,i think i would have hated to be the one to walk in a discover her place.
REBEL
QUOTE(fangs @ Oct 3 2006, 06:57 PM) [snapback]1375147[/snapback]

yeah can you believe the police had him and let him go because he was only killing tribal children!! angry.gif

Makes u question who was more screwed in the head lopez or the cops.
REBEL
QUOTE(fangs @ Oct 3 2006, 07:01 PM) [snapback]1375151[/snapback]

i think Countess Bathory was another one who was realy freaky.
bathing in the blood of virgins and all those village girls,i think i would have hated to be the one to walk in a discover her place.

I've never heard of these cases i've got to get out more no sh**.
fangs
another link wink2.gif
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erzs%C3%A9bet_B%C3%A1thory
REBEL
QUOTE(fangs @ Oct 3 2006, 07:01 PM) [snapback]1375151[/snapback]

i think Countess Bathory was another one who was realy freaky.
bathing in the blood of virgins and all those village girls,i think i would have hated to be the one to walk in a discover her place.

U got a link to that one fangs. mellow.gif
fangs
does anyone think henery lee lucas and ottis toole actualy killed 3000 people?He claimed that but they think it may be 350 (still very bad)
REBEL
QUOTE(fangs @ Oct 3 2006, 07:15 PM) [snapback]1375165[/snapback]

does anyone think henery lee lucas and ottis toole actualy killed 3000 people?He claimed that but they think it may be 350 (still very bad)

On that countess *bloodbath' ,...that interbreeding umongst them selves over the generations to keep the blood line pure then the psyotic disorder would set in sooner or later down the genaration line and she happend to be the one explains it all.
Spare a thought for Thurzo who discoverd the blood bath mid setion.

*Thats her real name.
fangs
QUOTE(REBEL @ Oct 3 2006, 06:12 AM) [snapback]1375182[/snapback]

Hey fangs, on that countess *bloodbath' ,...that interbreeding umongst them selves over the generations to keep the blood line pure then the psyotic disorder would set in sooner or later down the genaration line and she happend to be the one explains it all.
Spare a thought for Thurzo who discoverd the blood bath mid setion.

*Thats her real name.

that would explain alot. i realy never read alot into the story,but i think i actualy knew some of her story from a book i read about real vampires or somthing.i remember reading she threw one girl in a fire or somthing.and for punishment they bricked her into a room.
yeah i remeber now he came in when she and some guy(her husband maybe)was torturing a bunch of the girls.
REBEL
QUOTE(fangs @ Oct 3 2006, 07:49 PM) [snapback]1375183[/snapback]

that would explain alot. i realy never read alot into the story,but i think i actualy knew some of her story from a book i read about real vampires or somthing.i remember reading she threw one girl in a fire or somthing.and for punishment they bricked her into a room.
yeah i remeber now he came in when she and some guy(her husband maybe)was torturing a bunch of the girls.

You know just when you think you've heard/read it all,...maaaan i tell stories like that
can only make you wonder about the 'mind of man' and how it can be driven to the brink of insanity to such a level. mellow.gif
[attachmentid=28687]-Know thy self.
Col. Kurtz
QUOTE(fangs @ Oct 3 2006, 05:45 AM) [snapback]1375165[/snapback]

does anyone think henery lee lucas and ottis toole actualy killed 3000 people?He claimed that but they think it may be 350 (still very bad)


Im not sure fangs,,i know when he was arrested he claimed to have killed that many,, but later on he claimed he only killed 3 or 4. The reason he said he killed that many was cause they were treating him like a movie star and he was the perfect guy to pin dozens of unsolved muders on. Toole was the 1 that supposidly killed adam walsh but they never proved it. Those 2 are an evil couple probably we will never know how many they killed.
limerickboi
would thomas hamilton

qualify as a serial killer as he killed 16 children plus their teacher

The small Scottish town of Dunblane was racked with grief and horror last night as details emerged of the killer who had lived in their midst until yesterday, when he shot dead 16 small children and a teacher in three minutes of carnage in a primary school gym.
Thomas Hamilton, aged 43, a disgraced former Scout master whose behaviour had attracted the attention of the police, turned one of his four guns on himself after killing or injuring all but one of a class of 29 five- and six-year-olds at Dunblane primary school, near Stirling.

Last night three of the 12 children at hospital in Stirling, Falkirk and Glasgow were on the critical list.

As the Queen, the Prime Minister and the Leader of the Opposition registered their shock and distress at the worst multiple murder this country has seen, there were immediate calls for greater security in schools and tightening of the laws on gun ownership, last addressed after the Hungerford massacre in August 1987.

No obvious motive had emerged yesterday, but the many people who had encountered Hamilton drew a picture of a man who was obsessed with small boys and embittered by rejection. He became a Scout leader in 1973, aged 20, but was asked to leave the following year because of complaints about his behaviour at camp. He tried many times to get back into the organisation. Later he ran a boys' club - at one time in the school gym, some say - and recently, said a neighbour, he had been turned down as a voluntary worker for the primary school where he yesterday wreaked such bloody havoc.

It is believed the gunman began firing his weapons in the playground not long after school began, then forced his way past two of the 25 staff as he walked along a passageway, past the dining room, and into the gym, where 45-year-old Gwen Mayor's class was in progress.

Fifteen children and Mrs Mayor died at the scene; another child died in hospital. It is not known how many bullets were discharged during the massacre, which the police estimate lasted between two and three minutes. Only one child escaped unscathed. Two pupils were absent because of illness.

The whole school heard gunfire. The head teacher, Ronald Taylor, was described by police as a hero for the work he put in to calm the distraught pupils of the 700-strong school.

Jack Beattie, a senior consultant paediatrician, who arrived with the medical team, said it was the worst carnage he had witnessed in his 19 years as a doctor.

"We saw a large number of dead and injured children when we arrived in the gymnasium," he said. "There were a number of teachers comforting the children who were still alive and ambulance staff who had arrived before us.

"The children were very quiet. They were in shock both because of the injuries and because of the psychological shock."

A governor at the school, Gerry McDermott, said he had comforted a distressed teacher, Stuart McCombie, who had rushed to the gymnasium after the shooting. "Stuart told me they were looking up at him with their wee eyes, slowly changing colour as the blood drained from their faces and they died in his arms. He said the room was just awash with blood."

Steven Hopper, aged 11, was in his classroom yards from the gym, which shortly before had been full for morning assembly. "It was right next to my classroom," he said. "I looked over and saw the gunman.

"He was coming towards me, so I just dived under my desk when he turned and fired at us. "It was pretty scary when he started firing at our classroom window because all the glass smashed in and I got hit by a piece."

As the news reached the town, parents congregated at the school gates. Their children were handed back to them in small groups, but the parents of the victims were led to a private room. Nora Dougherty, governor at the school, said: "I found out it was not my daughters. I felt relieved - and then I felt terribly guilty that I felt relieved."

A father outside the school gates cried: "I don't know if my girls are alive or dead. What kind of a maniac does this? They are just babies in there." Janet Aitken, mother of an 11-year-old pupil, said: "I have my son, but many don't. When I saw Campbell I just wanted to weep, but many parents aren't having a reunion with their children."

SkullFarmer
QUOTE(GhostHunter79 @ Mar 8 2006, 03:52 PM) [snapback]1095305[/snapback]

I gotta go with Albert Fish
He's done it all and covered all the sick & twisted things you can think of
He always stuck in my mind & creeps me out!


I'm with you.


Jack the Ripper freaks me out too.
REBEL
QUOTE(limerickboi @ Oct 4 2006, 06:16 AM) [snapback]1375788[/snapback]

would thomas hamilton

qualify as a serial killer as he killed 16 children plus their teacher

The small Scottish town of Dunblane was racked with grief and horror last night as details emerged of the killer who had lived in their midst until yesterday, when he shot dead 16 small children and a teacher in three minutes of carnage in a primary school gym.
Thomas Hamilton, aged 43, a disgraced former Scout master whose behaviour had attracted the attention of the police, turned one of his four guns on himself after killing or injuring all but one of a class of 29 five- and six-year-olds at Dunblane primary school, near Stirling.

Last night three of the 12 children at hospital in Stirling, Falkirk and Glasgow were on the critical list.

As the Queen, the Prime Minister and the Leader of the Opposition registered their shock and distress at the worst multiple murder this country has seen, there were immediate calls for greater security in schools and tightening of the laws on gun ownership, last addressed after the Hungerford massacre in August 1987.

No obvious motive had emerged yesterday, but the many people who had encountered Hamilton drew a picture of a man who was obsessed with small boys and embittered by rejection. He became a Scout leader in 1973, aged 20, but was asked to leave the following year because of complaints about his behaviour at camp. He tried many times to get back into the organisation. Later he ran a boys' club - at one time in the school gym, some say - and recently, said a neighbour, he had been turned down as a voluntary worker for the primary school where he yesterday wreaked such bloody havoc.

It is believed the gunman began firing his weapons in the playground not long after school began, then forced his way past two of the 25 staff as he walked along a passageway, past the dining room, and into the gym, where 45-year-old Gwen Mayor's class was in progress.

Fifteen children and Mrs Mayor died at the scene; another child died in hospital. It is not known how many bullets were discharged during the massacre, which the police estimate lasted between two and three minutes. Only one child escaped unscathed. Two pupils were absent because of illness.

The whole school heard gunfire. The head teacher, Ronald Taylor, was described by police as a hero for the work he put in to calm the distraught pupils of the 700-strong school.

Jack Beattie, a senior consultant paediatrician, who arrived with the medical team, said it was the worst carnage he had witnessed in his 19 years as a doctor.

"We saw a large number of dead and injured children when we arrived in the gymnasium," he said. "There were a number of teachers comforting the children who were still alive and ambulance staff who had arrived before us.

"The children were very quiet. They were in shock both because of the injuries and because of the psychological shock."

A governor at the school, Gerry McDermott, said he had comforted a distressed teacher, Stuart McCombie, who had rushed to the gymnasium after the shooting. "Stuart told me they were looking up at him with their wee eyes, slowly changing colour as the blood drained from their faces and they died in his arms. He said the room was just awash with blood."

Steven Hopper, aged 11, was in his classroom yards from the gym, which shortly before had been full for morning assembly. "It was right next to my classroom," he said. "I looked over and saw the gunman.

"He was coming towards me, so I just dived under my desk when he turned and fired at us. "It was pretty scary when he started firing at our classroom window because all the glass smashed in and I got hit by a piece."

As the news reached the town, parents congregated at the school gates. Their children were handed back to them in small groups, but the parents of the victims were led to a private room. Nora Dougherty, governor at the school, said: "I found out it was not my daughters. I felt relieved - and then I felt terribly guilty that I felt relieved."

A father outside the school gates cried: "I don't know if my girls are alive or dead. What kind of a maniac does this? They are just babies in there." Janet Aitken, mother of an 11-year-old pupil, said: "I have my son, but many don't. When I saw Campbell I just wanted to weep, but many parents aren't having a reunion with their children."

I remember the Dunblane incident, that one sent shock waves around the world.
fangs
he was a very sick and disturbed man ,but not a serial killer.as bad as his killings are he didnt kill his victems over a long period of time.i've heard him labeled as a "spree killer"and that seems to fit better.
Withoutnight
Richard Ramirez, "The Night Stalker". What a psyco! devil.gif
fangs
QUOTE(Withoutnight @ Oct 3 2006, 09:35 PM) [snapback]1376172[/snapback]

Richard Ramirez, "The Night Stalker". What a psyco! devil.gif

am i the only person that gets a feeling that they got the wrong guy for those crimes?
i know he may have did some but i'm just not sure.i watched the documentary on him and the whole time i kept feeling like there was alot more to it the just Ramirez.sorry i cant explain myself, it was just one of those feelings that i try to let guide me.
REBEL
QUOTE(Withoutnight @ Oct 4 2006, 11:05 AM) [snapback]1376172[/snapback]

Richard Ramirez, "The Night Stalker". What a psyco! devil.gif

What's his story or should i say pychological problem?
fangs
QUOTE(REBEL @ Oct 3 2006, 10:00 PM) [snapback]1376198[/snapback]

What's his story or should i say pychological problem?

http://www.crimelibrary.com/ramirez/
heres a link to one site thats pretty good.
Withoutnight
I'm surprised no one mentioned him before. blink.gif
REBEL
QUOTE(fangs @ Oct 4 2006, 11:33 AM) [snapback]1376201[/snapback]

http://www.crimelibrary.com/ramirez/
heres a link to one site thats pretty good.

Fangs i see your lightning quick on the draw there, amigo. huh.gif
Withoutnight
QUOTE(fangs @ Oct 3 2006, 06:57 PM) [snapback]1376191[/snapback]

am i the only person that gets a feeling that they got the wrong guy for those crimes?
i know he may have did some but i'm just not sure.i watched the documentary on him and the whole time i kept feeling like there was alot more to it the just Ramirez.sorry i cant explain myself, it was just one of those feelings that i try to let guide me.


Do you believe he was credited for murders that were maybe done by a copycat killer?
REBEL
You know boys in all the cases i've read + a few more.
All these killers seemed to have one thing in common with each other,...according to all their back ground and upbringing they were all physically & mentally tormented and or abused in some form or another in their childhood and always keeping to themselves throughout the rest of their lives, loners so to speak.
They were/are for the ones that havent been caught yet or worst the ones still walking around that havent been ''identified'' yet, all basically walking talking ticking time bombs,just waiting for the wrong person to come at the wrong time and S*N*A*P... it triggers a rampaging bloody masacre.
fangs
QUOTE(Withoutnight @ Oct 3 2006, 10:15 PM) [snapback]1376213[/snapback]

Do you believe he was credited for murders that were maybe done by a copycat killer?

actualy i get the feeling that he was the copycat,i realy have no proof to go by just a feeling.
Col. Kurtz
QUOTE(fangs @ Oct 3 2006, 09:57 PM) [snapback]1376191[/snapback]

am i the only person that gets a feeling that they got the wrong guy for those crimes?
i know he may have did some but i'm just not sure.i watched the documentary on him and the whole time i kept feeling like there was alot more to it the just Ramirez.sorry i cant explain myself, it was just one of those feelings that i try to let guide me.


I kind of got that feeling also fangs. The way he got caught and other things lead me to belive he wasnt really smart enough to do all this alone.
REBEL
QUOTE(Col. Kurtz @ Oct 4 2006, 07:27 PM) [snapback]1376633[/snapback]

I kind of got that feeling also fangs. The way he got caught and other things lead me to belive he wasnt really smart enough to do all this alone.

You recond some of these psycho's are under some form of hypnotic mind control and triggerd at will under some secret project to instill and create fear and mass panic.
Col. Kurtz
No ,what i meant was maybe he had some type of partner or someone maybe was giving him '' idea`s''. Like henry lee lucas and Toole or the Hillside stranglers, one is always more dominate ,maybe Ramirez was the submisive . original.gif
Col. Kurtz
QUOTE(REBEL @ Oct 3 2006, 10:41 PM) [snapback]1376265[/snapback]

You know boys in all the cases i've read + a few more.
All these killers seemed to have one thing in common with each other,...according to all their back ground and upbringing they were all physically & mentally tormented and or abused in some form or another in their childhood and always keeping to themselves throughout the rest of their lives, loners so to speak.
They were/are for the ones that havent been caught yet or worst the ones still walking around that havent been ''identified'' yet, all basically walking talking ticking time bombs,just waiting for the wrong person to come at the wrong time and S*N*A*P... it triggers a rampaging bloody masacre.


From the shows ive seen about serial killers and FBI guys that profile them,,they say that at any given time there is possibly up to 200 serial killers on the loose in America. sad.gif
REBEL
The worst of the worst.

[attachmentid=28713]-Bundy [attachmentid=28714]-Ramirez

[attachmentid=28715]-Dahmer [attachmentid=28716]-Gacy

[attachmentid=28717]-Fish [attachmentid=28718]-Lopez

[attachmentid=28719]-Bryant
REBEL
QUOTE(Col. Kurtz @ Oct 4 2006, 08:30 PM) [snapback]1376663[/snapback]

From the shows ive seen about serial killers and FBI guys that profile them,,they say that at any given time there is possibly up to 200 serial killers on the loose in America. sad.gif

I tell ya C K that would account for quite a few missing persons i'd say.
I dont know the serial stats in Australia.

Just on that John Wayne Gacy, ....maaan he was Satan in a human body.
From reading his story, what the 4 cops found in his basment, theres no way that they would have walked away from the crime scene not mentally effected in some way for the rest of their lives.
fangs
QUOTE(Col. Kurtz @ Oct 4 2006, 06:54 AM) [snapback]1376661[/snapback]

No ,what i meant was maybe he had some type of partner or someone maybe was giving him '' idea`s''. Like henry lee lucas and Toole or the Hillside stranglers, one is always more dominate ,maybe Ramirez was the submisive . original.gif

exactly, thats the feeling i get from it.he seemed also to be playing a part and acting like he was pulling one over on the world.
AtlantisRises
QUOTE(REBEL @ Oct 4 2006, 12:11 PM) [snapback]1376265[/snapback]

You know boys in all the cases i've read + a few more.
All these killers seemed to have one thing in common with each other,...according to all their back ground and upbringing they were all physically & mentally tormented and or abused in some form or another in their childhood and always keeping to themselves throughout the rest of their lives, loners so to speak.
They were/are for the ones that havent been caught yet or worst the ones still walking around that havent been ''identified'' yet, all basically walking talking ticking time bombs,just waiting for the wrong person to come at the wrong time and S*N*A*P... it triggers a rampaging bloody masacre.



Well i lived in Snowtown South Australia for a while right when the bodies were found and Bunting and Wagner were not tormentted as kids. Hell i always thought they were pretty average guys. A little anti-social but that was about it.

When it was revealled how many people they had killed i remmember the shock and horror of the community.
REBEL
QUOTE(AtlantisRises @ Oct 5 2006, 09:05 AM) [snapback]1377567[/snapback]

Well i lived in Snowtown South Australia for a while right when the bodies were found and Bunting and Wagner were not tormentted as kids. Hell i always thought they were pretty average guys. A little anti-social but that was about it.

When it was revealled how many people they had killed i remmember the shock and horror of the community.

A R your joking right.
It was all over the papers and local rags ,Bunting & Wagner were victims of multiple child molestation, lawyers from both sides were in agreement with that.
But heres the clincher,.....All there victims were pedophiles.
And it came out in court months later that one of Bunting & Wagner's victim had molested them as kids. hence the reason why they had a deep hatred for pedophiles.
There were 2 others involved with them for a couple of years a woman and another man.
Do you remember why Bunting & Wagner killed them,....for their pension cheques,..& continued to collect them for a couple of yrs untill they got sprung.
To answer your other question on ''normal and anti social''(keep to themselves)is'nt that how they ALL are,...the one/one 's' least expected by the people.
The one thing i dont remember were the amount of victims, simply because they were pulling them out from everywhere.....Salsbury Nth, Snow Town and Paralowie.
Don't quote me here A R but i think the final count was *''23'' it took the police just over 3yrs to finally complete the count due to the fact that the body parts were practcally scattered all over the State. And to this day police still think theres more to uncover.

* Uncertain

[attachmentid=28750]-Bunting & Wagner worst serial killers in Australian history.
AtlantisRises
23 sounds about right. Its hard to say for sure because there were some whose identity the police wouldn't release.

And I know about them taking the pensions. Plus they only said the vics were pedophiles. I don't think they all really were.
REBEL
QUOTE(AtlantisRises @ Oct 6 2006, 05:00 PM) [snapback]1379691[/snapback]

23 sounds about right. Its hard to say for sure because there were some whose identity the police wouldn't release.

And I know about them taking the pensions. Plus they only said the vics were pedophiles. I don't think they all really were.

Not only police would'nt but could'nt release all the victims identities due to the fact that acid was used on most of the bodies and we all know what acid can do.
I think the final count was never offically released anyway A R. But i'm certain it was a lot more.
Withoutnight
Pickton is a freaking wierdo! I wish I could give you a site but I am having trouble,(don't know how to post it) anyway he didn't live to far from me and a friend of mine is a guard at the prison he is being held at. He gets different treatment because of the publicity he receives and believe it or not, I am told that he is more sane then the other prisoners. The guy spends his days relaxing, and you wonder where the burnt out playstations go!
REBEL
QUOTE(Withoutnight @ Oct 6 2006, 07:00 PM) [snapback]1379731[/snapback]

Pickton is a freaking wierdo! I wish I could give you a site but I am having trouble,(don't know how to post it) anyway he didn't live to far from me and a friend of mine is a guard at the prison he is being held at. He gets different treatment because of the publicity he receives and believe it or not, I am told that he is more sane then the other prisoners. The guy spends his days relaxing, and you wonder where the burnt out playstations go!

What his story? huh.gif
Withoutnight
Sorry, I don't know how to put the links on. If you could tell me, that would be great! Anyways you can Google the name and come up with alot of info, He had a backyard collection so to speak.
REBEL
QUOTE(Withoutnight @ Oct 6 2006, 07:20 PM) [snapback]1379743[/snapback]

Sorry, I don't know how to put the links on. If you could tell me, that would be great! Anyways you can Google the name and come up with alot of info, He had a backyard collection so to speak.

Gotcha ''W''. thumbsup.gif
fadinginnocence
Heres The link for pickering (withoutnight is right he was a weirdo)Robert Pickering


Paul Bernodo and Karla Homolka Where sickos too (who the hell HELPS thier husband rape and murder thier SISTER) Bernardo and homolka



One of my favorites would be Andrei Chikatilo if only because of the dedication on the part of the investigator during the hunt for the rostov ripper, plus the whole Chimerism thing facinates me....The Rostov Ripper
shakes
QUOTE(REBEL @ Oct 6 2006, 02:30 AM) [snapback]1378622[/snapback]

A R your joking right.
It was all over the papers and local rags ,Bunting & Wagner were victims of multiple child molestation, lawyers from both sides were in agreement with that.
But heres the clincher,.....All there victims were pedophiles.
And it came out in court months later that one of Bunting & Wagner's victim had molested them as kids.

[attachmentid=28750]-Bunting & Wagner worst serial killers in Australian history.


think this arguement has been used in a few trials in australian murders.
-Marc Valera used same arguement for his brutal murder case
-kieth shrieber used same arguement for his brutal murder crase (one person i didnt think had the ability to murder someone was a friend of the guy sure didnt see it comming but thats usual hey its always the least you expect)

but yeah thats just two i thought of off the top of my head ya hear that arguement in so many cases that they were molested by the person they killed or they killed them cause they commited sexual assualts or rapes and stuff.

but my guess for worst killer would be:
of all time - Jack the ripper
of now days - martin bryant port aurthur massacre
Death Star III
tede bundy is probably one of the worst
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