Or more accurately put, is Lucifer the Supreme Being to the Freemasons? Obviuosly not.

Lucifer is not the Great Architect of the Universe (G.A.O.T.U.) so Freemasons must not worship Lucifer as God. But what of all those quotes from Albert Pike, Madame Blavatsky and Eliphas Levi?

"Lucifer, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable, blinds feeble, sensual, or selfish souls? Doubt it not!" -- Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry

"Lucifer represents.. Life.. Thought.. Progress.. Civilization.. Liberty.. Independance.. Lucifer is the Logos.. the Serpent, the Savior." -- Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, 'The Secret Doctrine'

"What is more absurd and more impious than to attribute the name of Lucifer to the devil, that is, to personified evil. The intellectual Lucifer is the spirit of intelligence and love; it is the paraclete, it is the Holy Spirit, while the physical Lucifer is the great agent of universal magnetism." -- Eliphas Levi, 'The Mysteries Of Magic'

So who is this Lucifer? And why does the occult hold him in such high regard?

I will explain it as best I can using sources to back it up. Why am I doing this? I believe there are many misconceptions regarding Freemasonry and they should be cleared up. The Lucifer issue being the main one, IMO, which leads to accusations of devil worship.

And I am aware of the other thread here, which got off topic as most threads involving Freemasonry do, that touched on the "Devil worshiping" Freemasons.

Am I a Freemason? No.

But I am very interested in the occult. So I may have some answers that some here might appreciate but I have no oath or obligation to withold any information.

So who is this Lucifer fellow?

For starters Lucifer is not the Devil, Satan or whichever name you wish to use. But first let's look at the Devil...

Satan

In the Hebrew Bible

In the Hebrew Bible, Satan is to be better understood as an "accuser" or "adversary" than as an embodiment of "evil." The term is applied both to divine and human beings.

In Rabbinic literature

Early rabbinic Jewish statements in the Mishnah and Talmud show that Satan played little or no role in Jewish theology. In the course of time, however, Judaism absorbed the popular concepts of Satan, most likely inherited from Zoroastrianism. The later a rabbinic work can be dated the more frequent is the mention therein of Satan and his hosts.

In the New Testament

Satan figures much more prominently in the New Testament and in Christian theology generally. In the New Testament, Satan appears as a tempter for Jesus, for example. In John Milton's epic poem Paradise Lost, the theme is further developed—Satan is believed to have been an archangel who turned against God before the creation of man.

The belief that Satan is in Hell has its roots in Christian literature rather than in the Bible. The Bible states that he still roams heaven and earth. Job 1:6 states that Satan appeared with other angels "before the Lord," presumably in heaven. When God asked Satan where he had been, Satan replied, "From roaming through the earth and going back and forth in it." Satan has not been and is not in Hell.

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So the whole concept of the Devil or Satan ruling Hell has more to do with Zoroastrianism duality and Christian literature than the Bible.

But what of Lucifer the fallen angel?

Lucifer

Lucifer is a Latin word made up of two words, lux (light; genitive lucis) and ferre (to bear, to bring), meaning light-bearer. Lucifer appears in Greek mythology as heosphoros, the "Dawn-bringer"; it is used by poets to represent the Morning Star at moments when "Venus" would introduce distracting imagery of the goddess. "Lucifer" is Jerome's direct translation in his Vulgate (4th century) of the Septuagint's Greek translation, as heosphoros, "morning star" or "Day Star," literally "bringer of the Dawn", of a phrase from Isaiah 14:12.

Modern astrologers identify the planet Venus as having been known by the name Lucifer in Roman astrology before being given its current name.

Lucifer in the Christian tradition

In the fully-developed Christian interpretation, Jerome's Vulgate translation of Isaiah 14:12 has made Lucifer the name of the principal fallen angel, who must lament the loss of his original glory as the morning star. This image at last defines the character of Satan; where the Church Fathers had maintained that lucifer was not the proper name of the Devil, and that it referred rather to the state from which he had fallen; St. Jerome transformed it into Satan's proper name.

It is noteworthy that the Old Testament itself does not at any point actually mention the rebellion and fall of Satan directly. This non-Scriptural belief assembled from interpretations of different passages, would fall under the heading Christian mythology, except that the very idea of a Christian mythology is widely attacked as offensive.

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So the connection between Lucifer and Satan, the Devil, is a questionable one. Let's look at Isaiah 14:12...

New King James Version - Isaiah 14:12

"How you are fallen from heaven,
O Lucifer, son of the morning!
How you are cut down to the ground,
You who weakened the nations!"

New American Standard Bible - Isaiah 14:12

"How you have fallen from heaven,
O star of the morning, son of the dawn!
You have been cut down to the earth,
You who have weakened the nations!"

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Let's compare some passages that contain the term lucifer...

Isaiah 14:12

KJV "How you are fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How you are cut down to the ground, You who weakened the nations!"

Vulgate "quomodo cecidisti de caelo lucifer qui mane oriebaris corruisti in terram qui vulnerabas gentes"

2 Peter 1:19

KJV "And so we have the prophetic word confirmed, which you do well to heed as a light that shines in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts"

Vulgate "et habemus firmiorem propheticum sermonem cui bene facitis adtendentes quasi lucernae lucenti in caliginoso loco donec dies inlucescat et lucifer oriatur in cordibus vestris"

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So the translation of lucifer to morning star or the translation of lucifer to Lucifer was the discretion of the translator.

Some futher evidence that Lucifer is not synonymous with Satan or the Devil...

Saint Lucifer

Lucifer or Lucifer Calaritanus (d. 370 or 371) was a bishop of Cagliari in Sardinia and Christian saint known for his passionate opposition to Arianism.

At the Council of Milan in 354 he defended Athanasius, and he opposed the Arians so powerfully that they had the Emperor Constantius (an Arian sympathizer) to confine Lucifer for three days in the palace. While in confinement, Saint Lucifer argued so strongly with the emperor that he was banished, first to Palestine and then to Thebes, Egypt. While in exile, he wrote fiery letters to the emperor that put him in danger of martyrdom.

After the death of Constantius and the coronation of Julian the Apostate, Lucifer was released in 362. However, he would not be reconciled to former Arians. He consecrated bishop Paulinus, without license, creating the schism of Meletius. He may have been excommunicated, as is hinted in the writings of Saint Ambrose and Saint Augustine and Saint Jerome, who refers to his followers as Luciferians, a sect that survived in scattered remnants into the early 5th century. Jerome, in his polemic Altercatio Luciferiani et orthodoxi ("Altercation of the Luciferian and the orthodox"), offers almost all that is known of Lucifer or the sect.

His feast day in the Catholic Church is May 20. His name demonstrates that "Lucifer" (meaning "light-bringer") was not yet merely a synonym of "Satan" in the 4th century. However, hasty references by enthusiastic 19th century biblical scholars assumed from the name that the Luciferians were Satanists. Therefore, although his cultus has not been suppressed nor his canonization reevaluated, he is not often celebrated or spoken of in the calendar.

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Well I have to say this connection is falling apart quite rapidly. Some passages from the Bible that mention the "morning star", Lucifer?

Revelation 22:16

I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, [and] the bright and morning star.

Revelation 2:26-29

And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:

And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.

And I will give him the morning star.

He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

2 Peter 1:19

"And so we have the prophetic word confirmed, which you do well to heed as a light that shines in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts."

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So according to Jerome, Revelation 22:16 should read...

"I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, [and] Lucifer."

So Jesus claims to be Lucifer, the Light-Bearer. Is Jesus the light?

John 1:6-10

"There was a man sent from God, whose name [was] John.

The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all [men] through him might believe.

He was not that Light, but [was sent] to bear witness of that Light.

[That] was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not."

John 8:12

"Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life."

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But what of the Pentagram, the symbol of Satan? Freemasons use that symbol.

The Pentagram

The pentagram has long been associated with the planet Venus and the worship of the goddess Venus, or her equivalent. It is most likely to have originated from the observations of prehistoric astronomers. When viewed from Earth, successive inferior conjunctions of Venus plot a nearly perfect pentagram shape around the Sun every eight years.

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So Lucifer ties to Venus, the Pentagram ties to Veus/Lucifer and Jesus calls himself "the bright and morning star"/Venus/Lucifer/the Pentagram.

A side note: Buddha attained enlightenment "when the morning star appeared in the eastern sky, the struggle was over and the Prince's mind was as clear and bright as the day-break." - The Life of Gotama Buddha

Venus the morning star, Lucifer, Jesus and Buddha represent enlightenment.

"Lucifer, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable, blinds feeble, sensual, or selfish souls? Doubt it not!"

Doubt it not!

I don't have time to read all this.But i'll tell ya something,the true question is ,does he really exsist?

There was a topic about this..

hmm..oh yes..here it is..
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...pic=62812&st=15

I am pretty sure he is a God for many mason leaders.

Then how do you know I didn't answer that question in my post?

But to answer your question, "does he really exist?", I'll ask some questions...

Does God really exist?

Do you really exist in terms of the absolute?

Do I really exist in the absolute?

But to avoid this thread going off topic, I will answer as clearly as I can.

No. But I believe in "him".

Just because it isn't real, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Yes I mentioned that thread in my post.

Who is "he"?

The Devil/Satan?

Jesus?

The G.A.O.T.U.?

If "he" is truly "God" to Freemasons.

Just because it isn't real, doesn't mean it is a question of existence, when you don't know what it is. That is why you ask. Who you ask is a more important question than what it is you think "it" is your asking about - and that of whom.

Believe it or not. That is the way "it" is.

Thank you for the reply.

"But to avoid this thread going off topic, I will answer as clearly as I can.

No. But I believe in 'him'."

Oh puh-lease. Not again. You know, I could answer as a Freemason, a Rosicrucian, a mystic, and an occultist, but I have no doubt that whatever I would say would fall on deaf ears since the person posting it already has made up their mind in-spite of all evidence, so why waste my time?

You forgot to tell : member of Illuminati.

Hermit, if you are Lucifer's (let's say) fan,then you're a supporter of the evil.Because he is a powerful demon, therfore god wouldn't be so happy when you die and meet him.And if there is heaven and hell,then you'll probabbly go down (if you know what i mean).

I like the wealth of information, but the simple answer is no.

Are you "Oh puh-lease"-ing me?

If so how about answering not "as a Freemason, Rosicrucian, a mystic, and an occultist" but as someone who read the post.

Why waste your time? So you don't make a fool of yourself and miss the entire point of my post, for starters.

If your post was not directed at me, I apologize for my mistake. And if it is not, what do you think of the information? Any comments? Any disagreements?

What evil? I explained in my post that the connection, made by the Church, is an erroneous one. If you have any specific point that you disagree with, bring it up.

He is not a powerful "demon", as I explained.

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Isaiah 14:12

KJV "How you are fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How you are cut down to the ground, You who weakened the nations!"

Vulgate "quomodo cecidisti de caelo lucifer qui mane oriebaris corruisti in terram qui vulnerabas gentes"

2 Peter 1:19

KJV "And so we have the prophetic word confirmed, which you do well to heed as a light that shines in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts"

Vulgate "et habemus firmiorem propheticum sermonem cui bene facitis adtendentes quasi lucernae lucenti in caliginoso loco donec dies inlucescat et lucifer oriatur in cordibus vestris"

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His(Saint Lucifer) feast day in the Catholic Church is May 20. His name demonstrates that "Lucifer" (meaning "light-bringer") was not yet merely a synonym of "Satan" in the 4th century. However, hasty references by enthusiastic 19th century biblical scholars assumed from the name that the Luciferians were Satanists. Therefore, although his cultus has not been suppressed nor his canonization reevaluated, he is not often celebrated or spoken of in the calendar.

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Revelation 22:16

I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, [and] the bright and morning star.

Translation...

Revelation 22:16

I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, [and] Lucifer.

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Here is some more evidence that the Lucifer-Satan/Devil connection is flat wrong...

BibleTexts.com Questions, Insights, & Responses

Lucifer, the English translation in the kjv (Isa. 14:12) of the Hebrew word meaning 'light bringer' or 'shining one,' sometimes designating the morning (or day) star, that is, Venus (cf. rsv: 'Day Star'). The English word 'Lucifer' comes from the Latin for 'light bearer.' In Isa. 14:12, the King of Babylon, in an apparent reference to Canaanite mythology, is tauntingly called 'Day Star, son of Dawn' because he has fallen from his lofty but temporary position of power. In the Christian church, this passage from Isaiah came to be connected with Jesus' saying in Luke 10:18: 'I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.' Thus the connection was made (erroneously) between Lucifer and Satan, and Lucifer was popularly understood as another name for Satan.

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So far I have not seen anyone take a single point I have made and debate it, all I see is "therfore god wouldn't be so happy when you die and meet him.And if there is heaven and hell,then you'll probabbly go down (if you know what i mean)".

But what can I expect though from 1600+ years of disinformation by the Church?

Has the morning star risen in your heart? I doubt it. Still clinging to falsehoods? I hope not.

Thank you and you're welcome for the information.

"but the simple answer is no", put simply I agree.

Chaote?

He's just pissed that you are confirming for everyone that Lucifer the bearer of light, who provides information contained in the fruit from the tree of knowledge, is the one who Masons look up to. the 33rd degree is split in at least two. Half who are Christian oriented, and the other half the Luciferian faction, that goes higher up the pyramid of power towards the true Illuminati.

Before people like you and Rosencreuz came on board, everyone thought people like you didn't exist, and it was all made up. Rosencreuz has verified the Illuminati still exist to this day and are working towards enlightening the world in the illumination of the morning star. You have my faith even stronger.

You have to get to know your enemy to find his flaws in order to destroy them.

Jesus is your enemy? Because he clearly calls himself the morning star(Lucifer).

Revelation 22:16

I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, [and] the bright and morning star.

Translation...

Revelation 22:16

I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, [and] Lucifer.

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I do not wish to destroy Jesus or my enemies(any living being), that goes against The Law.

My only "enemy" is falsehood, lies and deceit. Wouldn't you say those are the trademarks of "Satan"? I only wish to "destroy" that "enemy" through communicating the truth, the light.

But if misinterpretting what I have said makes your faith stronger, you're welcome.

Maybe "in" should be in quotation marks.

The Devil - www.bible.ca

D. The Devil is not "Lucifer"

Isa 14:12-15 Refers to king of Babylon not the Devil
V12: "Lucifer" (KJV) "star" (NASB) literally means, "shining one"
Ezek 28:13-19 Refers to king of Tyre not the Devil
This is a very common false teaching.

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Isaiah 14:4

That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased!

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Isaiah 14:12

New Living Translation

"How you are fallen from heaven, O shining star, son of the morning! You have been thrown down to the earth, you who destroyed the nations of the world.


American Standard Version

How art thou fallen from heaven, O day-star, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, that didst lay low the nations!


New American Standard Bible

"How you have fallen from heaven, O star of the morning, son of the dawn! You have been cut down to the earth, You who have weakened the nations!


Revised Standard

"How you are fallen from heaven, O Day Star, son of Dawn! How you are cut down to the ground, you who laid the nations low!


New King James Version

"How you are fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How you are cut down to the ground, You who weakened the nations!

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Isaiah 14:12 is the only time "Lucifer" appears in the KJV of the Bible. It doesn't even appear once in most other versions of the Bible.

Nave's Topical Bible

1. Nebuchadnezzar called by this name (Isaiah 14:12)

Torrey's New Topical Textbook

No results found for search term "lucifer".

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"Lucifer represents.. Life.. Thought.. Progress.. Civilization.. Liberty.. Independance.. Lucifer is the Logos.. the Serpent, the Savior." -- Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, 'The Secret Doctrine'

"What is more absurd and more impious than to attribute the name of Lucifer to the devil, that is, to personified evil. The intellectual Lucifer is the spirit of intelligence and love; it is the paraclete, it is the Holy Spirit, while the physical Lucifer is the great agent of universal magnetism." -- Eliphas Levi, 'The Mysteries Of Magic'

lmao ..............WOW....

THE DEVIL, SATAN, LUCIFER, ARE ALL DIFFERENT BEINGS, MIXED UP BY MAN, LUCIFER WAS AN ANGEL AND HE HAD A BROTHER AMED JESUERUAL * SPELL CHECK LMAO LUCIFER DID SOMETHING WRONG AND THEY BOTH WHERE CAST DOWN TO EARTH. BUT THERE HAS BEEEN MANY ANGELS CAST DOWN TO EARTH FROM HEAVEN THAT WE DONT WHICH ONE IS SATAN ........IT MIGHT BE 200 CAST OUT ANGELS CALLED THE LEGION, WE TRUELY DONT KNOW BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE A PARTICAL BIBLE AND UNTIL THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH RELEASES THSOE BOOKS WE WILL NEVER KNOW ( UNTIL THE SECOND COMING)

Yes Man has mixed up the "different beings" Satan and Lucifer.

But you claim that Lucifer had a brother and "he did something wrong and they(Satan and Lucifer I imagine) were cast down to earth".

There is no evidence that Lucifer is Satan or was one of Satan's angels. Any connection between Lucifer and Satan is "non-Scriptural belief" based on fictional works.

Lucifer - wikipedia

In later Christian tradition and folklore, Lucifer was identified explicitly with Satan. Such beliefs are thought by some to be contrary to Jesus' teachings, and to exalt Satan and Lucifer to positions and powers not supported in the Bible. Modern concepts of Lucifer and Satan come from embelishments in the fictional works of Dante's The Divine Comedy and Milton's Paradise Lost, rather than Biblical sources.

It is noteworthy that the Old Testament itself does not at any point actually mention the rebellion and fall of Satan. This non-Scriptural belief assembled from interpretations of different passages, would fall under the heading Christian mythology, that is, Christian traditions that are derived from outside of church teachings and scripture (the term "Christian mythology" is seen as offensive to some Christians, who would prefer the term "Christian traditions").

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But there is mention in the New Testament of a War in Heaven which resulted in Satan, the great dragon, being cast out of heaven...

Revelations 12:7-9

And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

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You also said, "until the Roman Catholic Church releases those books we will never know".

I think you touched on a very important point. The RCC hides information from us, they always have, they attempt to keep us in the dark. But in this day and age it is becoming, if not already, impossible to hide the truth from us. The fear of being burned at the stake, tortured to death or getting locked up for questioning their word is gone.

The Coptic Apocalypse of Peter

Jesus said,

"And they praise the men of the propagation of falsehood, those who will come after you(Peter). And they will cleave to the name of a dead man, thinking that they will become pure. But they will become greatly defiled and they will fall into a name of error, and into the hand of an evil, cunning man and a manifold dogma, and they will be ruled without law."

"But many others, who oppose the truth and are the messengers of error, will set up their error and their law against these pure thoughts of mine, as looking out from one perspective thinking that good and evil are from another. They do business in my word. And they will propagate harsh fate. The race of immortal souls will go in it in vain, until my Parousia."

"But those of this sort are the workers who will be cast into the outer darkness, away from the sons of light. For neither will they enter, nor do they permit those who are going up to their approval for their release."

"And there shall be others of those who are outside our number who name themselves bishop and also deacons, as if they have received their authority from God. They bend themselves under the judgment of the leaders. Those people are dry canals."

"These things, then, which you saw you shall present to those of another race who are not of this age. For there will be no honor in any man who is not immortal, but only in those who were chosen from an immortal substance, which has shown that it is able to contain him who gives his abundance. Therefore I said, 'Every one who has, it will be given to him, and he will have plenty.' But he who does not have, that is, the man of this place, who is completely dead, who is removed from the planting of the creation of what is begotten, whom, if one of the immortal essence appears, they think that they possess him - it will be taken from him and be added to the one who is. You, therefore, be courageous and do not fear at all. For I shall be with you in order that none of your enemies may prevail unto you. Peace be to you, Be strong!"

Don't assume they are "beings" in the first place.

I don't, if you are speaking to me.

I consider them more like concepts or archetypes.

Using Satan as an example...

Satan isn't real. Satan isn't a person or being, more of a symbolic concept of evil. An evil that is inside every human being. All of us have the potential for evil but also for good.

"It is a man's own mind, not his enemy or foe, that lures him to evil ways."

It is up to us to take control of these forces in us.

"Work out your own salvation. Do not depend on others."

We have all eaten from the Tree of Good and Evil.

I HATE THE FREEMASONS!!!!!!!!
It's not right, they basicly hav diplomatic immunity, not they DO hav diplomatic immunity!!!

I see that the discussion has died down, I also see that no specific point has been argued. I will assume that people have taken what information they agree with from my post, disagree with what I have said but cannot argue against it or have decided to sit back and see what else comes out of this.

So whatever the case may be I will move on and explain a little further who this Lucifer is.

I have shown that the connection between Satan and Lucifer was caused by a mistranslation, whether it was intentional or accidental is for you to decide, there isn't enough evidence to prove either way.

The mistranslation being lucifer to Lucifer instead of lucifer to morning star(Venus). So if this mistranslation was what created this "being" Lucifer instead of referring to the planet Venus, Lucifer is more of an empty shell than a "god". But what of the fallen angel story?

Well not to sound offensive but I don't believe that the Church was creative enough to come up with the fallen/rebel angel Lucifer story on their own. Not to mention most religions have a history of taking, borrowing or a better term adopting mythological concepts from other religions/mythologies to their own.

So where did this concept come from?

First it is important to know that the concept of an enlightening "being" is an old one that probably was the product of the major change in consciousness brought about by humans mastery of fire. Please take a moment and try and visualize how fire would have changed early humans lives. It brought warmth, security, light and I assume made them feel like they have finally gotten the upper hand on the animal kingdom. With the warmth, security and light that fire brought it would have resulted in human's days becoming longer. They could stay warm at night, feel safe at night and see at night(near the fire of course). So what did they do with this extra time?

Early humans would have spent more time socializing by the fire, telling stories and relaying concepts to each other which would become their mythology. I would also have to assume that fire or a fire(light) god would play an important role in their mythology, probably close to the importance of the sun, or a sun god.

People with an interest in mythology might have already thought of one legend in particular which I believe was the "template" for Lucifer.

Prometheus

The Crimes of Prometheus - The Rebel Titan

Zeus had many plans for the reshaping of creation. After the fall of Kronos and his confinement in Tartaros, Zeus took no interest in the mortal race of men on the bountiful earth, he intended for them to live as primitives until they died off. Zeus said that knowledge and divine gifts would only bring misery to the mortals and he insisted that Prometheus not interfere with his plans.

Dispite Zeus’ warning, Prometheus took pity on the primitive mortals and again, he deceived Zeus. Prometheus gave the mortals all sorts of gifts: brickwork, woodworking, telling the seasons by the stars, numbers, the alphabet (for remembering things), yoked oxen, carriages, saddles, ships and sails. He also gave other gifts: healing drugs, seercraft, signs in the sky, the mining of precious metals, animal sacrifice and all art.

To compound his crime, Prometheus had stolen fire from Zeus and given it to the mortals in their dark caves. The gift of divine fire unleashed a flood of inventiveness, productivity and, most of all, respect for the immortal gods in the rapidly developing mortals. Within no time (by Immortal standards), culture, art, and literacy permeated the land around Mount Olympos (Olympus). When Zeus realized the deception that Prometheus had fostered, he was furious. He had Hephaistos (Hephaestus) shackle Prometheus to the side of a crag, high in the Caucasus mountains. There Prometheus would hang until the fury of Zeus subsided.

Each day, Prometheus would be tormented by Zeus’ eagle as it tore at his immortal flesh and tried to devour his liver. Each night, as the frost bit it’s way into his sleep, the torn flesh would mend so the eagle could begin anew at the first touch of Eos (the Dawn).

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Prometheus went against Zeus' wishes and brought fire, "divine fire", to us "primitive mortals" which resulted in "a flood of inventiveness, productivity and, most of all, respect for the immortal gods" but also in a sacrifice, that of Prometheus.

Prometheus was willing to sacrifice himself for our benefit, the benefit of enlightenment. He was a rebel like we are, not quite divine but not an animal. One foot in Heaven and one foot in Hell(Earth, the material world where matter rules and everyone battles urges daily).

There are also similarities in the story of Prometheus and the story of Jesus. Jesus enlightening us also resulted in a sacrifice, his own on the cross, for us.

Revelation 22:16

I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star(Lucifer).

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So Lucifer(a Christian creation), this empty shell of a "being", starts to absorb concepts, older concepts than Christianity. Lucifer is Prometheus, Jesus, Venus(the planet) and the Pentagram.

So what motivation was their to intentionally, or if the Lucifer-Satan connection was accidental what motivated the Church to, propagate this erroneous connection? What were they hiding behind this false veil of evil.

My belief is that they fear our enlightenment. Everyone with some knowledge of control systems, whether it be the Church or the government, knows that fear helps control people and those people's intelligence hurts that control. It is up to us to free ourselves from these control systems.

"It is better to conquer yourself than to win a thousand battles. Then the victory is yours. It cannot be taken from you, not by angels or by demons, heaven or hell."

A little of topic but this information may be of interest to some and may bbe offensive to others...

The Book of Mormon

The Book of Mormon is the title of a text found within Mormonism. It is claimed that Joseph Smith, the founder of Mormonism, translated golden plates and the result of this work was the Book of Mormon: Another Testament of Jesus Christ (hereafter BoM). First published in 1830, the BoM has gone through many changes involving grammar, name corrections, and even some doctrinal changes. The BoM is considered as inspired scripture in the Mormon church, and thus to LDS has equal, and arguably more authority than the Bible.

The BoM claims to be a translation of the historical record left by Hebrew descendants known as the "Nephites" who lived somewhere in the Americas between about 600 B.C. and 420 A.D.. With regard to theology, the BoM generally reflects the Protestantism of the early 19th century in America, and contains very few of the doctrinal distictives found in the mainstream sect of Mormonism. This makes the BoM a key component of Mormon marketing. It is freely distributed and is designed to be the first exposure that many get to the largest and most popular sect of the Mormon religion.

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THE SECOND BOOK OF NEPHI - The Book of Mormon

2 Nephi 24:12

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! Art thou cut down to the ground, which did weaken the nations!

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With the knowledge that the KJV of the bible mistranslated lucifer to Lucifer and the Book of Mormon includes this mistranslation but claims to be translated off golden plates which were written in Hebrew between 600 BC and 420 AD, it is easy to see that Joseph Smith(the founder of Mormonism) was being dishonest and was copying at least partially from the KJV.

I apologize to any Mormons who may be reading this, I don't say this to offend you or your faith but isn't the truth more important?