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Is it possible that ancestors of early humans have survived in isolated areas of the Earth? Have specimens of them actually been captured and studied? Consider these incredible, mysterious creatures.
It is widely accepted in the scientific community that over millions of years humans evolved from lower life forms, most recently from small, ape-like creatures. But is it possible that some of those ape-like creatures have survived to the present day? Do some of these "missing links" survive today as what have become known as Bigfoot, Sasquatch or the Alma? Does information from these primitive ancestors still reside in our genetic makeup and occasionally result in the birth of a genetic throwback?

These are all tantalizing puzzles presented by documented cases of strange creatures and people – some of which are more animal-like than human, and others which are more human than animal-like, but all of which seem to be some bizarre mixture of the two.

Here are a few fascinating cases:


Oliver's odd appearance had some people wondering if he might be a human- chimp hybrid.

The Story of Oliver

Oliver was one of the most closely studied chimpanzees in history, in large part because of his odd appearance and behavior. His behavior was so humanlike, in fact, that it was suspected by some that he might actually be a human-chimp hybrid – the result of some secret genetic experiment.

Oliver was born in the African Congo where he was captured in the early 1970s and sold with a dozen other chimps to Frank and Janet Burger, animal trainers from South Africa. Immediately, they recognized that Oliver was quite different than the other chimps they worked with. He looked different, for one thing. Although young, he lacked hair on his chest and head. His ears and jawline were shaped somewhat differently than a normal chimp's. Most astonishingly, Oliver always walked upright with a decidedly human gait. He learned to use a toilet, liked to watch TV with the Burgers, drink coffee and beer with them, and even took on simple household chores like feeding the dog.


Oliver always walked upright and preferred the company of humans.

Oliver's remarkable intelligence brought him a modicum of fame, touring the world throughout the '70s and performing before an estimated 26 million people. He even made appearances on "The Ed Sullivan Show" and at New York's Radio City Music Hall.

Oliver preferred the company of humans to that of other chimps. The feeling on the part of other chimps was mutual; they tended to avoid him. Oliver's comfort with humans even crossed the boundaries of social propriety when he made sexual advances toward Janet Burger and other human females.

It was shortly after these incidents that Oliver was sold to a New York attorney and later to West Coast animal trainers who promoted him as "The Missing Link" and showcased him in a traveling act of trained chimps.

Was Oliver a human-chimp hybrid, a kind of mutant chimp or one of some new species? In the sensationalized publicity that surrounded Oliver, it was reported that he had 47 chromosomes – one less than an ordinary chimpanzee and one more than a human being. These reports were refuted in 1997, however, when genetic testing revealed that he had 48 chromosomes, just like any other chimp. This eliminates the human-chimp hybrid theory, but does not rule out the possibility that Oliver might be a mixture of common and pygmy chimps or part of a new, unknown species.

Oliver has since retired to Primarily Primates, a primate sanctuary in Texas where he settled down with a mate – a chimp mate. Whatever the ultimate findings are about Oliver, his peculiarities remain a mystery.
psyche101
I have read somwhere that his head was shaved to increase the human likeness, still an amazing individual no doubt.

I don't believe a human-chimp hybrid is possible. The reports os these sinister experiments are no doubt simply rumours. The same story has been going around for decades, it was rumoured the Nazis did the same thing during WWII. I reckon this part is more Urban Legend.

Hope he has found true love with his chimp mate wub.gif Wonder what baby Oliver will be like.
Solofront
He is not a half breed men...
"Oliver's blood sample, Ledbetter said, showed 48 chromosomes, proof he was not a human-chimp hybrid.

"He's a normal chimp," Ledbetter said. "We haven't found anything that suggests otherwise." "

http://ai.stanford.edu/~oli/oliver.html

Pax Unum
he was a hoax, right?
speaker of the house
QUOTE(Pax Unum @ Mar 8 2006, 08:37 PM) [snapback]1095726[/snapback]

he was a hoax, right?


No, he was real...I've seen tons of footage on him at the "ape refuge" in san antonio, I was stationed at Camp Bullis, TX for a few years, right next to where "OLIVER" lived and where baby oliver "now big" still lives...
Pax Unum
QUOTE(speaker of the house @ Mar 8 2006, 05:44 PM) [snapback]1095584[/snapback]

animal trainers who promoted him as "The Missing Link"


that was a hoax, yes?
speaker of the house
QUOTE(Pax Unum @ Mar 8 2006, 08:43 PM) [snapback]1095738[/snapback]

that was a hoax, yes?


Sort of...they actually thought he was a "missing link", if you read all the information on Oliver you will see he in no way acted like a normal chimp, very smart, would not associate himself with other chimps, only humans. Walked up right like humans, spent most of his time in the house doing chores.
Yelekiah
Last time I heard he was just another species of chimp. I'll see if there is an update.
JeremyGTS
Yeah there was a show on TV not too long ago talking about Oliver and that he was just a normal chimp, blood test proved that and the show was on discovery so its a credible channel but yeah he was just a normal chimp that acted human nothing more. would of been cool if he was the missing link or was advancing in the next steps of chimp evolution?
maselbac
he looks like a bald chimp to me yes.gif
Diary of a Monster
Yea they found out he was a normal chimp, but i think that they said he had a mutation that occurs very rarely in chimps (i think anyway).
I don't think it's impossible for there to be a human ape hybrid though.

http://www.greenapple.com/~jorp/amzanim/crossesa.htm

i'm not sure about the chromosome differences in some of these guys but some of them don't seem like they would go together (exp. lion and a leopard).Us and chimps are only like 2 chromosomes apart (i think) so i don't think it's that out of reach. Maybe not in the wild but in a lab it's probably very possible. Why we'd need one i have know idea, what would be the point.

BigfootForever
there was a show called ape man on national geographic channel that had him on it. they did all the tests and it was proven he was a normal chimp. but still a cool story .
frogfish
He was a regular chimp with a mutation...that's what I heard
BigDaddy_GFS
Oliver the Mystery Mutant Chimp. He'll be opening for David Lee Roth in Vegas this spring. thumbsup.gif

But seriously....The general consensus, as was stated earlier, is that he is a mutated chimp, or possibly a subspecies that hasn't been identified. There have been at least two instances of similar apes shot in the Congo over the past decade.
psyche101
QUOTE(BigDaddy_GFS @ Mar 10 2006, 10:27 AM) [snapback]1097479[/snapback]

Oliver the Mystery Mutant Chimp. He'll be opening for David Lee Roth in Vegas this spring. thumbsup.gif

But seriously....The general consensus, as was stated earlier, is that he is a mutated chimp, or possibly a subspecies that hasn't been identified. There have been at least two instances of similar apes shot in the Congo over the past decade.


Hehehe laugh.gif He would probably be a better show too

Wow, we can be a cold hearted species. Imagine, 2 human-like Chimps come up to say,
'Gidday haven't seen you around here before'

and we blast 'em away.
no.gif
Meh, thank goodnes we have the right to do the same to poachers now yes.gif

Does anyone know if it was definitly one or the other - mutated chimp, or a subspecies that hasn't been identified ?
Glacies
regardless, he's a cute little fellow, wonder if you could teach him to skateboard...
dnb420
It was a hoax.

Funny how people craft things to create a "missing link".
psyche101
QUOTE(dnb420 @ Mar 10 2006, 01:29 PM) [snapback]1097902[/snapback]

It was a hoax.

Funny how people craft things to create a "missing link".



The touted 'missing link' part was a hoax

The rest of the story appears to 100% kosher though. thumbsup.gif

There was the Ice Man too - another 'missing link' hoax.

Bet he can skateboard already grin2.gif
Diary of a Monster
this has some creepy footage of oliver but its mixed in with a death metal music video. not much but all i could find.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQnAzuhJSsY&search=humanzee
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