who is the nti-crist

Nero.

my bad what i was trying to say who is the anti- crist

That's fine, I still understood you.

So you're saying Who is the anti-christ. I don't know, never heard of 'em.

something dealing with cristanity

Or against it. You mean the Antichrist of Revelation correct?
Also an antichrist is someone who is not Christian, so the term is applicable to so many.

thanks for giving me the notice

anti-christ = manrilyn manson

no joke

lol I somehow doubt it.

His music is too good!

But I suppose he could be.

BTW this should be moved to the spiritualiy section

Moved to appropriate section. Lets keep this on topic

There is no impending anti-Christ; it's all based upon eisogesis --- a faulty hermeneutic technique of reading into texts what isn't there to begin with.

Besides, given the current state of Christianity, such a title would be a badge of honor ... at least to the part of the world whose brains haven't been anesthetized.

Arty was messing

Who is the anti-christ??.........my sister that's who

Who knows, the singular anti-christ might not even be on the scene yet, he or she may come later. But if it was someone right now, I'd put my money on Hilary Cliton, lol, there's something off about her. But also, like someone else said before, anyone who opposes Jesus is an anti-christ. So those who deny Jesus and speak out against him, they are anti-christs. The two biggest anti-christs on this forum that come to my mind are Mako and Sherri Berri. But now that I think about it, Tom Cruise could be the anti-christ as well, he's already converted Katie Holmes, lol.

I just wanted to analyze your two sets on the anti-christ definition. Anyone who opposes Jesus is an anti-christ, and those who deny Jesus and speak out against him are as well.

What I question is solely on this: to believe Jesus existed and to be against him / speak out against him in a denial of his WAY is anti-christ granted. But, if they don't believe he existed and do the same things, that isn't exactly as powerful an anti-christ as the ones who do believe.

What about someone who has something 'christ-like' in them: like some supernatural power, who doesn't believe Jesus existed, doesn't speak out against him, and isn't against him in the sense they don't believe he existed. Still, is in some way against themselves, meaning they go against thier own christ-like ways at the same time???

They reciprocate in a cycle, to balance it all out, and have a neutral side. In this case, there are 3 ways about that person that is decieving to all kinds of people, and a little evil, a little good, and a little in between. Being totally stuck with it, and having no choice but to work behind the scenes???

Someone who has no way of either acknowedging that they are the 3rd, nor denying it?

Not acknowledging Christ's existence IS denying him. It's as simple as that. Anyone in this modern world with access to world wide communication knows of Jesus. And knowing and denying or knowing and saying the knowledge isn't true are the same things. Those that know of Jesus and deny him are anti-christs; and those that haven't heard of him and preach contrayry to him are anti-christs.

Someone who doesn't know or acknowledge Christ CAN'T have Christ in him (not in the way your describing) working miracles.....that "christ like" thing in them would be derived from a different source not of God.

In this particular argument, eisegesis would apply.
Given the history of the term; Anti-Christ, it would denote someone that does not accept or denies, the philosophy of the Christ. i.e. Non-Christians. So indeed, there are a plethora of Anti-Christos in the world today, and certainly in future as well.

At the very least it should come as relief one need not look up for the pending arrival. Rather they need but look around for the contemporary presence. (Yeah, that bodes well for the future, if history is any indicator. )

Wow that... my imaginary friend, is something Ive agreed with for many years...That is a relief to see that.

The fact is, originally the christos was a Hellenistic concept for the divinity within. It was a continuation of previous solar deities, for ever since Ra, humans had been using the Sun as a symbol for the divinity within. Christians merely came along and took the ancient myths about the solar deity and constructed a "historical" narrative. The wise ones, the Gnostics, knew the inner meaning of the tale, for it had been a central part of their mystery ritual drama. The drama of the Sun's journey through the nighttime sky and through the various constellations, is the Soul's battle to conquer during its incarnation in matter. It's death and its "rebirth" or reincarnation into another body. After all, Jesus was said to be the Light and Life of the World --- HELIOS --- THE SUN. John borrowed the terminology of Philo who borrowed the terminology of Heraclitis, the Stoic philosopher. Thus, the "logos" or "Word" had long been a teaching amongst Greek philosophers and amongst the mystery schools. Christians came along and constructed a story about this myth and then later people came in and dumbed it down and promptly forgot the inner meaning of the tale. Today people spend their days honoring a "man" who never existed anywhere on the planet except inside their innermost beings. The irony is, while they give honor to a fictitious Jesus, they neglect the deity that lies slumbering within them, neglected by a corrupt and degenerate religion that forgot the meaning of its own religious symbolism.

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A frater

whos the next anti-christ? im pretty sure we should all know this..


Michael jackson.

well then, how quickly this topic doth run off the rails...anywho, i've heard mentions of usama bin laden, to george bush, to saddam hussein as possible candidates, course i've also heard the ac hasn't even been born yet, and wont for sometime...i hear alot of things...most of them from the voices in my head, others from the voices on the internet...i do like discussing the possibility of an antichrist...quick question...besides armageddon, what were the people warning about prior to christs rise to glory? nm stupid question...i'm too tired for this.

im not anti -christ but these fricking christian people that i live by git on my nerves

There is never one source of evil and there won't be one anti-christ.

As the anti-christs we've already suffered:
Hitler
Nero?

They aren't necessarily anti-christs, Hitler was Christian I believe. People can label someone the AC but no one really is, it's the same title as the devil. Nonsense.

too

I'll see your and raise you a

There has only been one Anti-Christ. There will only be one Anti-Christ.
He is Mephastapheles and was known in Heaven as the shrewdest of all angels and friend to Jesus. When he left Heaven on his own accord, not cast out, he took with him 1/3 of the Host of Heaven.
This is the Anti-Christ.

and raise you a

Antichrist...hmmmm.

According to the 'gospel' the Antichrist will rule the world under a New World Order, a world in which everyone will be forced to share the same faith by wearing or accepting the "Mark", if they dont...they are tried for treason and executed (however, if you are executed, no matter your faith, for denying the mark, you gain a free pass into heaven). It kind of gives credit tot he idea that it dosn't matter your religion, as long as you have faith.

Anyways, I can't think of anybody at the moment who has taken the anti-christ steps.

Marylan Manson- I seriously doubt this. I don't think he has the fan capacity to take over the WORLD, now.

Apple, a free pass into heaven? Alriiight! Anyway, along the lines of what you're saying, isn't the anti-Christ supposed to be really charming and persuasive? Someone who's supposed to unite the world in a utopian vision? I'm hardly an expert on the bible, so I could be wrong, but if that's true then people like Osama bin Laden, Hussein, Bush, and Marilyn Manson hardly qualify.

Quarrah, where did you hear that Hitler was Christian?

christians have no prob with but when they start acting like idiots telling my about how i should totally love god and stuff thats when it starts getting on my nerves

The antichrist? This term was first used in the obscure Book[s] of John1/2. Why? It had nothing to do with any individual that would lead the world into oblivion. No. The term was a direct attack against Docetism--those who denied Jesus' humanity (the Gnostics).

Sean

could you tell me who are the Gnostics

The Gnostics were a sect within the early Jesus movement--one of many. They believed Jesus did not exist in the flesh and so forth--that he was an illusion.

Gnostic & Esoteric Sources
http://virtualreligion.net/vri/nt3.html#Gnosis

THE GNOSTIC SOCIETY LIBRARY
http://www.gnosis.org/library/gs.htm

When he shows up...everyone will know who he is .... and i do not believe he is around yet.

That isn't a human being who can 'turn two keys' at once though. The third anti-christ is two people.

can you tell me where you found that out yet and i do beleive he could be a baby becouse i had a dream that these people told me that the anti-crist was born and he survive of the ship that blown up some one told me that,that was in a old movie if thats the cass i dont know

It takes two keys to launch a nuclear missle. My understanding is that after the first two antichrists that were predicted to be here, may still have an affect on the outcome of whom truly necessarily should have learned the lessons of war. Therefore, when one assumes the first two males {whom could in the afterlife still reject everything about such a lable}, were the first two - why not assume that the third will try and pull off this male/female thing.

After all, who is stupid enough to take over the world as one person?

You would have to at least have some control over all the minds of the world to make them think you were God/Goddess.

After all, how stupid would you be to do that?

I'm not that stupid, and if I was to tell you where I got it from, I think I would be.

That's what the Illuminati want you to believe whether it's true or not. And here's why they don't want you to believe.

this is what I believe. The anti-christ will make peace between Israel and the world. The world will form a world government that will include a one world religion and a "mark of the beast" which you must possess to buy and sell.

If you study what Rosencruez and the like say, a world government is planned to be formed and hopefully a world religion. Of course when the world government forms the real leadership will step forward, and most likely be ruled by single person.

Now this world leader will claim to be the messiah of the world, and fulfill many prophecies at the same time adding to his validity, and fooling many into believing in him.

Christians who believe Jesus was the Messiah are expecting another man to rise to power over the world and claim to be the messiah. People like Rosencruez might think he is a being of light to bring peace to the world. And he will at first with the peace treaty between Israel and the world. But this man is supposed to go against his word or peace after a couple of years and then make war on the people who refuse to accept the mark and worship him. Of course this religion may well add all the best parts of the major religions adding in some humanism. The mark of the beast could be a radio frequency identification device, which is a microchip you where under your skin, that positivly identifies who you are.

If you are to believe Rosencruez, and you can if you want, the world government will rise in the name of peace, uniting the superpowers, and creating a predictable and manageable economy equally distributing the wealth. You will have to eventually follow the one world religion, which will be for your own good, as it will make you illuminated knowledge wise.

If you believe prophecy, which I do, but Rose says is nonsense, this was all predicted in the bible. Then you have a secret society of the Illuminati who want to create a world government and one world religion.

I think it's the system of the beast as Satan finally claims his throne on earth, while Rosencruez thinks it will be peace on earth, and ruled by the hierarchy of illuminated ones who exist in the spiritual realms.

That's why he want you to ignore prophecy and the idea of the antichrist, because he and his people are fulfilling bible prophecy, and if you know that, you will possibly not agree with them.

The point is that a world govnerment will form in the near future, and Christians believe it to be the antichrist, while the occult belives the opposite.

I'm against the world government even if it lands me in a concentration camp for being an enemy of peace and security which in theory what world government/religion/and currency is all about.

Believe what you want.

Lets all try to meet up after we are dead, and see who is better off. I'm putting my money on my side, and it's a risk I'm willing to take.

Peace.

scooby i'll bank on the side of Rosen, except One religon for all i would prefer diversity, i'd like to see if we take the fear and hype out of religoins and just honor and celebrate diversity and ones tradition waht kind of humanity we'd be.....Certainly narrow the choices to healthy choices......

i agree on every thing you said but i think you do have a choice and you can have a god or have one person to rule the world and i heard that this will not last seven years but seven weeks please respond

follow the light

Im anti-christ, hes fake, doesn't exist. Christanity isn't really a religion to me, more like a business. People become ministers and Chruch leaders just for easy money so they can live a good life.

If you are talking about the biblical anti christ who will set up a seven year peace deal in the middle east and unite the world, economically, politically and religiously then it is pretty certain that the majority of people will not recognise him! In fact the bible says that many will worship him as God, therefore totally being mistaken about his identity!

Who is the anti christ?....Whoever started that " what is the secret" thing floating around , that is the anti-christ...

what do you mean?

you will figure it out...Maybe someone will get that